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reeves84
June 11th, 2002, 8:46:56 AM
Can we please observe a moments silence for the death of French Soccer Ambitions. Denmark just knocked them out of the World Cup. :party:

Without a goal in 270 minutes France also ended the tournament with the worst ever performance by a defending champion as they became the first holders to fail to win a match. :toast:

Tears are flowing as an ex:gbr:

And Ireland are looking hopeful, so Bduff will be on the edge of his seat

Jaded 7
June 11th, 2002, 8:55:04 AM
This thread hardly belongs on the BILLS Hard Core board! Since you guys were so "nice" to me when all I asked is that you leave the Flutie thread here long enough for Bogus to see it. I say this thread needs to be moved ASAP!

Moderators, where are you? This doesn't belong here either. Two can play at this game and since I rarely start threads on the hard core board that are "off topic" I say if you're going to be strict with me when you have many other posters starting OT threads on a daily basis, then you have to be strict with EVERYONE.

Time for this thread to be MOVED! Cya!

EricStratton
June 11th, 2002, 9:04:44 AM
Hard to believe the French rolled over and got slapped on the ass.

Stealth01
June 11th, 2002, 9:16:31 AM
Awwww. Did the move of your photo post hurt your feelings, Jaded? Is your temper getting...SHORT? Did it make you feel SMALL? Did it MINIMIZE your feelings for Douggie?

Sorry.

Normally, I don't get wrapped around the axle about off-topic posts on the main board, but two things made me protest that one.

1. It was really something private between you and Bogus T. Could have been e-mailed to her.

2. Some of us just want the whole RJ-DF thing to go bye-bye. Forever. Kind of like the Great Depression only...more depressing.

billsfanone
June 11th, 2002, 9:24:34 AM
http://www.furman.edu/plan/design4/admissions/photos/band.jpg

Jaded 7
June 11th, 2002, 9:26:13 AM
Originally posted by Stealth01 Awwww. Did the move of your photo post hurt your feelings, Jaded? Is your temper getting...SHORT? Did it make you feel SMALL? Did it MINIMIZE your feelings for Douggie?

Sorry.

Normally, I don't get wrapped around the axle about off-topic posts on the main board, but two things made me protest that one.

1. It was really something private between you and Bogus T. Could have been e-mailed to her.

2. Some of us just want the whole RJ-DF thing to go bye-bye. Forever. Kind of like the Great Depression only...more depressing.
First of all, Stealth, you are the biggest abuser of "OT" threads, so you of all people should have minded your own business.

Secondly, I thought that there might be other people who would be interested in seeing the pictures besides Bogus, which is why I posted them and why I chose the Hard Core board. If I do post OT items, I always do it in the Asylum.

And lastly, whether or not you care to acknowledge it, Doug Flutie was a part of the Bills organization for 3 years. Regardless if they were good or bad years, he was still a part of the team. I see and hear people talking about past Bills ALL THE TIME. I'm sorry if you don't like this particular past Bill, but he was still a part of the team. Also, I rarely bring up Doug or the whole RJ/DF controversy. I don't turn threads into an RJ/DF debate nor do I start thread that deal with either one of them.

If my thread bothered you, you shoudl have done the mature thing and just ignored it! Put me on "ignore" if I upset you. And no, my feelings aren't hurt at all. I don't let insignificant people get me down. There are many more important people and things in my life.

billsfanone
June 11th, 2002, 9:27:48 AM
I enjoyed the pics. Where did they go?

Jaded 7
June 11th, 2002, 9:33:32 AM
Originally posted by reeves84 Jaded:

I am not worried or offended by the way. Its all good clean fun!!
I really wasn't addressing you Reeves. I'm sorry it was your thread that I went off on. I apologize. :)

BF1, I believe the pictures are in the Smackdown board.

EricStratton
June 11th, 2002, 9:35:48 AM
Good to see the fire in you Jaded. Keep it up.

Stealth01
June 11th, 2002, 9:53:01 AM
Oooo. Testy. Sensitive. Fiery.

You sure you're not a redhead, Jaded?

<i>First of all, Stealth, you are the biggest abuser of "OT" threads, so you of all people should have minded your own business.</i>

First of all, I was messing with you so chill out. No, don't get any chillier...warm up!

And yes, I frequently post OT there. ANd I ALWAYS qualify it with something like, "Mods, feel free to move this whenever you want." Like they need my permission. I never beg to leave it there, and never whine when it gets moved.

As I said, most OT posts don't bother me. I skip them. But most don't eat up bandwidth with pictures of a former Bills player who has a cult following of people who think he's cute.

<i>Secondly, I thought that there might be other people who would be interested in seeing the pictures besides Bogus, which is why I posted them and why I chose the Hard Core board. If I do post OT items, I always do it in the Asylum. </i>

And you KNEW there would be people who wouldn't like the photos. You KNEW they would tick some people off, and yet you still posted them there. Personally, it didn't tick me off. I'm just tired of hearing about the whole thing.

<i>And lastly, whether or not you care to acknowledge it, Doug Flutie was a part of the Bills organization for 3 years. Regardless if they were good or bad years, he was still a part of the team. I see and hear people talking about past Bills ALL THE TIME. I'm sorry if you don't like this particular past Bill, but he was still a part of the team. Also, I rarely bring up Doug or the whole RJ/DF controversy. I don't turn threads into an RJ/DF debate nor do I start thread that deal with either one of them. </i>

And whether you acknowledge it or not, the Flutie-Johnson era is one of the saddest things that ever happened in team history. Two ego-maniacs with average skills who used their position to establish cult followings and advance their own agendas. Flutie with his flakes and RJ with his "Rob-bots" tore this team apart. To see fans still obsessing over certain ones, especially to the extent people obsess over the tiny cancer, wears on one's patience. When Bruce, Andre, and Thurman all left, there was NOWHERE NEAR this kind of outcry and obsession. And they gave FAR MORE to this team than Doug (or Rob) ever did.

Do you see Wys in here lamenting the departure of Rob Johnson? Is Shag here posting pictures of him, knowing that people are sick and tired of it? Nope. Just the obsessed Flaky Fans of Flutie.

And you DO bring Doug up. All the time. You started THIS thread about him, and he comes up numerous times in other threads.

Do other ex-players come up? SUre. Once in a while. We'll see something about RJ on the Bucs or Cowart on the Jets (actually, we haven't seen anything about Sam). There's stuff on Cottrell. But they're few and far between on each player.

Flutie Flakes bring him up ALL THE DAMN TIME.

<i>If my thread bothered you, you shoudl have done the mature thing and just ignored it! Put me on "ignore" if I upset you. </i>

If you knew your thread was going to annoy people (and you DID know it, thus the defensiveness when moving it came up), YOU should have done the mature thing and posted it on the Smackdown board. Or the Asylum. Or the Water Cooler. But like most Flutie Flakes, you chose to put your hero in the spotlight again.

<i>And no, my feelings aren't hurt at all. I don't let insignificant people get me down. There are many more important people and things in my life.</i>

Boy, for an insignificant person, I really got you riled up. Hate to see what a significant person would cause. Sheesh.

My post in this thread was meant to be a joke (first half) and a reasoned explanation of why I agreed that the thread should be moved (second half). Your defensive reaction tells me you need to step back and examine you infatuation a little more closely.

Grow up, Jaded. Flutie's gone. Maybe 2-3 people here care about him anymore.

BogusTrumper
June 11th, 2002, 9:54:47 AM
Hey Jade - you go girl! :D

Thanks for posting your pics. Good job. You're right. There are people here who are still interested.

It was kinda funny that Eb moved your pic thread to the smackdown board but he also moved your trivia thread from the Asylum to the Hard Core board. You people need to try to keep your dislike of Flutie from affecting your decisions. Jaded's right. He was a very popular Bill for three years.

billsfanone
June 11th, 2002, 9:57:07 AM
I can see how women find Flutie attractive.

Jaded 7
June 11th, 2002, 9:57:54 AM
Stealth, I don't know how you can possibly come to any conclusions about me since you don't know me. And since you can't even make clothing decisions without taking a poll. You seem to be the one who needs to grow up. I didn't storm off a few weeks ago because I couldn't put someone on "ignore." :rolleyes:

I suggest we let this drop now because, you're right, I am fired up and in no mood to deal with this anymore.

billsfanone
June 11th, 2002, 10:00:46 AM
LOG,

Is this the insult thread? :D

BogusTrumper
June 11th, 2002, 10:07:34 AM
Originally posted by Stealth01
As I said, most OT posts don't bother me. I skip them. But most don't eat up bandwidth with pictures of a former Bills player who has a cult following of people who think he's cute.
You said it Stealth. He has a cult following. Maybe there are people interested in him after all?
Originally posted by Stealth01
And you KNEW there would be people who wouldn't like the photos. You KNEW they would tick some people off, and yet you still posted them there.
I'm not agreeing that she did, but what if she did? Don't people start threads that they know will tick people off all the time? I think a lot of people had fun with it.
Originally posted by Stealth01
And whether you acknowledge it or not, the Flutie-Johnson era is one of the saddest things that ever happened in team history.
IYO
Originally posted by Stealth01
But like most Flutie Flakes, you chose to put your hero in the spotlight again.
I'm still amazed that this bothers people. Yeah. He's a hero to some people. Yeah. They like to see him in the spotlight. That's what fans do.
Originally posted by Stealth01
Grow up, Jaded. Flutie's gone. Maybe 2-3 people here care about him anymore.
IYO. I'll say it again: Western NY loved Flutie. You may not know that because you are in CO or because you think that the regular posters on this board are representative of Bill's fans. Have you noticed all the lurkers? What is the ratio of active posters to lurkers? Maybe they don't post because they don't want to be treated this way. That was the case with me. Lurked forever. Then when I just had to post something (to defend DF), you people jumped all over me. If I were someone else, I'd have probably logged off and never come back. Too bad for you. :D

EricStratton
June 11th, 2002, 10:17:56 AM
It astounds me that people are that bothered by the photos of Flutie or RJ or the very mention of either. While the Doug/Rob years certainly were not a highlight of Bills history it still happened. What’s the big deal? If Jaded or anyone wants to talk about, worship, bitch about or post photos of any Bills player, so what.

As far as the bandwidth thing with the photos, plenty of pictures, avatars, animated smiley faces etc burn up bandwidth, one more picture of a vertically challenged QB who Jaded thinks is cute isn’t going to put us over the edge.


And to keep with the thread topic, sucks to be french today

billsfanone
June 11th, 2002, 10:20:28 AM
It sucks to be French anyday.

EricStratton
June 11th, 2002, 10:24:52 AM
Not that I'm a soccer follower but what the hell happened to the french, is this the all-time choke or what?

Jaded 7
June 11th, 2002, 10:28:00 AM
Originally posted by EricStratton Good to see the fire in you Jaded. Keep it up.
Thanks. :) And don't kid yourself, I do have a fire in me. lol It usually comes out when people push my last button or my last nerve. lol And thank you for you other post. I totally agree with you.

Bogus, I LOVE your new avatar. lol ;) And thanks for adding some words as well. Some people just don't get it.

Reeves, I'm really sorry your innocent French thread got moved and then turned into a bashing session. :( I hope you won't hold this against me. It's been a bad couple of days. Sorry. :cheekiss:

Player6600
June 11th, 2002, 10:28:29 AM
Originally posted by EricStratton
Not that I'm a soccer follower but what the hell happened to the french, is this the all-time choke or what?

Actuall WWII was when they surrended after 1 min.

Stealth01
June 11th, 2002, 10:51:11 AM
Oh boy. Now I've offended BT too. Before long, the Flutie Nation will be biting my ankles and jumping up to punch me in the knee.
:D

<i>Stealth, I don't know how you can possibly come to any conclusions about me since you don't know me. </i>

As easily as you came to conclusions about me and told me to grow up.

<i>And since you can't even make clothing decisions without taking a poll. You seem to be the one who needs to grow up. I didn't storm off a few weeks ago because I couldn't put someone on "ignore."</i>

Well, first of all it was a sarcastic/humorous (I thought, anyway) post on the jerseys (which was ON-TOPIC for the hardcore board, BTW), not a serious request for help. It was a JOKE. Second, I would avoid commenting on things you know nothing about, Jaded. My departure from BBI was predicated on a LOT more than became public knowledge.

<i>I suggest we let this drop now because, you're right, I am fired up and in no mood to deal with this anymore.</i>

And that means what to me, exactly? You're going to get madder? OK. I'll drop it. Wouldn't want the Ice Princess mad, after all. Sorry...you changed that. The "Queen of Broken Hearts."

<i>You said it Stealth. He has a cult following. Maybe there are people interested in him after all? </i>

Yep. A few.

<i>I'm not agreeing that she did, but what if she did? Don't people start threads that they know will tick people off all the time? I think a lot of people had fun with it. </i>

And as I indicated, it didn't piss me off until all the defensiveness about Eb moving it. I just agreed with whoever said it should be moved. Then Jaded got all pissy and defensive about it. My OT posts get moved all the time, usually within 24-hours. I don't get defensive about it.

<i>IYO. I'll say it again: Western NY loved Flutie. You may not know that because you are in CO or because you think that the regular posters on this board are representative of Bill's fans.</i>

Posters on this board ARE representative of Bills fans, BT. They didn't used to be, when it was smaller, but now they truly are. Moreso than the official site or even TSW. MOST Bills fans realize that Flutie is the past. Hey -- I supported the guy. Thought he was exciting to watch until all the shiznit happened. Got his cereal, jersey, and starting lineup figure. And am TIRED of hearing about how great a football player he is. I think most Bills fans realize he was a novelty, like a bobble head doll. Really popular until the little spring breaks and you realize the quality isn't what you thought it was.

<i>Have you noticed all the lurkers? What is the ratio of active posters to lurkers? Maybe they don't post because they don't want to be treated this way.</i>

Or maybe they just don't have the time or inclination. The boards have seen NUMEROUS polls, which don't require posting anything, and it reveals a pretty balanced plethora of fans here. Pro-DFers are the minority.

<i>It astounds me that people are that bothered by the photos of Flutie or RJ or the very mention of either. While the Doug/Rob years certainly were not a highlight of Bills history it still happened. What’s the big deal? If Jaded or anyone wants to talk about, worship, bitch about or post photos of any Bills player, so what. </i>

Hey, all I did was agree that it should have been moved, like EVERY OTHER OT POST, to another forum. Then Jaded, obviously expecting some special treatment for her diminutive god, got whiny when her post was moved.

Boo hoo hoo. She needs to get over it. Most OT posts last twenty-four hours or less on the hardcore board. Them's the rules.

BogusTrumper
June 11th, 2002, 11:15:59 AM
Originally posted by Stealth01
Oh boy. Now I've offended BT too. Before long, the Flutie Nation will be biting my ankles and jumping up to punch me in the knee.
:D
I know you are being funny but just for the record, I'm 5'8"
Originally posted by Stealth01
Or maybe they just don't have the time or inclination. The boards have seen NUMEROUS polls, which don't require posting anything, and it reveals a pretty balanced plethora of fans here. Pro-DFers are the minority.
Maybe they don't have the inclination because they don't want to be treated badly.
Pro-DFers may be the minority here but in general they are not the minority. I disagree with you. RJ disagrees with you.

Stealth01
June 11th, 2002, 11:24:33 AM
Originally posted by BogusTrumper

I know you are being funny but just for the record, I'm 5'8"

Maybe they don't have the inclination because they don't want to be treated badly.
Pro-DFers may be the minority here but in general they are not the minority. I disagree with you. RJ disagrees with you.

Yes, I was just joking. But you're still shorter than Flutie. By an inch. :p

There is a huge chasm of difference between being the majority and being the vocal minority. I would bet that given a poll, most Bills fans would say they're 1) glad Flutie is gone, and 2) NOT a supporter of EITHER QB. Most realized we weren't going to win with either one.

Unfortunately, we'll never know. So keep believing you're in the majority and I'll keep believing you're not.

And I still stand by my original statement -- the post should have been moved.

Even if Jaded now hates me more than she hates mean, rotten animal abusers.

:D

billsfanone
June 11th, 2002, 11:26:06 AM
I think most wouldn't care.

John
June 11th, 2002, 11:33:08 AM
Originally posted by Player6600


Actuall WWII was when they surrended after 1 min.

Hence Reeves lingering dislike for the French and pleasure at their dispatch . . .

The English have not forgotten WW2 yet . . .

Not to even score a goal in three games is pretty sad!

Stealth01
June 11th, 2002, 11:44:15 AM
"You filthy English k-niggits! Go away or I shall taunt you a second time!"