3rd Round Draft Thread

[Merk]

Starts at 10 am tomorrow

Any thoughts on what position we should target?

[Billsman]

Site owner.. :-)

[JayHall93]

BPA there is still a ton of talent on the board.

[Billsman]

Te, Fb

[trink]

Rucker from Mizzou

[JP Losmania7]

Rucker no doubt

[JWatts]

even though we don't need him I say Connor (if available) or Rucker.

[LotteryPick]

We need a TE or some OL depth. I would say Cottam or Rucker, or Dre Moore would actually be a pretty solid pick in the 3rd round.

However, I say we go with Justice or McGlynn to play OC and see if we can grab Cottam in the 4th.

[delo]

caldwell would be a great pick our needs dictate LB , TE , FB

[admarc]

TE should be the target in the 3rd. There are plenty of good ones left.

Brad Cottam, Martin Rucker, Craig Stevens, Jermichael Finley, Kellen Davis and Gary Barnidge.

Of the remaining bunch, Cottam intrigues me the most.

[mikgaes]

3.Cottam
4.Lichtensteiger
4.Schmidt
OLB (Highsmith, Wheeler) or Connor
QB (Ostrander)
DE (Robertson, Ellis, Davis)
DT (Dre Moore)

[jamiezzz]

going best player available.....

[BLADE33]

Jermichael Finley, TE, Texas

[Lateralus]

Center or Tight end in the third....pass rushing DE with our 4th, fullback in the 4th with our compensatory.

[Mouldsie]

TE, C, DL, OT, QB, FB, S, maybe another big WR that can play ST's

not in any particular order

[mike35]

Probably Best Available TE(3rd), Best Available C (4tha), Schmidtt if available (4thb), Best available from there...

[TheAnswer74]

Avril!

[BillzRyan]

TE has to be on the radar, especially if Rucker is still available at that point. Connor is certainly someone to keep in mind as well, as he would probably fall into that "best player available" label if he's still there tomorrow morning.

That said, I'm satisfied with the Day 1 action. The team has drafted quality talent for two of the more glaring needs we have. Maybe not as exciting and/or "sexy" as the KC draft, but we're getting players who fit what we've been asking for.

Looking forward to getting up in the morning and continuing the process. GO BILLS!

[zootvman]

Definitely center or tight end. Rucker is probably the Bills highest rated TE, but who knows what center they like.

The more I think about it, the more I think the Bills will take the best available tight end in the 3rd round...and a center in the 4th.

[ksl66]

MY top 5 for round 3
1. Jeremy Zuttah
2. Cliff Avril
3. Dan Connor
4. Brad Cottam
5. Reggie Smith

[JLB]

great 1st day! :rockon:

[kdhammond]

While I like Cottam at TE, I think there are going to be better players available at positions of maybe lesser need:

LB: Dan Connor, Erin Henderson and Xavier Adibi
RB: Kevin Smith, Tashard Choice and Jamaal Charles
WR: Early Doucet, Andre Caldwell and Earl Bennett
S: DaJuan Morgan
CB: Tyvon Branch, Reggie Smith, Justin King and Charles Godfrey

Of the bunch, I might be tempted to ignore the offense (again) and take
DaJuan Morgan. He is touted as a starting-calibre S who is good against
both run and pass and one long-time draft "expert" (Frank Coyle) calls him
the best special teams player in the draft.

They still could use another CB, even with having drafted McKelvin. I might be early doing so, but I've kind of written off Youboty, so if you believe that then they have only McGee, Greer, William James and McKelvin at CB. Another one certainly wouldn't hurt and someone like Reggie Smith could maybe slide over to safety, too.

I think a case could be made for any of the players listed above, though and
I could really be on-board with another good RB to share some of the load
with Marshawn Lynch. I know that Freddie Jackson looked OK-to-good last
year, but another really good RB sharing time with Lynch to keep him fresh
and extend his career would be a nice investment.

The receivers intrigue me, but with Evans, Hardy, Parrish and Reed already
here, it might be a bit of over-kill. Still, Doucet and Bennet really are interesting highly productive WRs....

Unlike many here, I am not groovin' on the remaining Cs. I don't see them as obvious upgrades over Fowler and I don't see Fowler as a big problem that needs fixing.

I'd vote for waiting until the 4th for maybe another big DT, someone like Red Bryant or Athyba Rubin...

[standingbuffalo43]

imagine:

http://www.buffalorange.com/showpost.php?p=2019454&postcount=32

3. Connor
4. Legursky
4. Franklin
5. Schmitt
6. Tamme
7.Monk
7.C from UB
7.DE from UB

[1968_bills_fan]

First Rucker at TE if he is there. Then I would like a big DT to back up Stroud. If the defense is going to be built around one big fat guy and a penetrater, we need a back up for Stroud.

[BLADE33]

3- Jermichael Finley, TE, Texas
4- Jeremy Zuttah, G/C, Rutgers
4- Owen Schmitt, FB, West Virgina

[BillsRGreat]

Center - back up to mold into a starter, another oline back up Then best avaliable.
Throw in a DE to replace H(G)Hargrove & this draft could turn out as good if not a tad better than last

I know that's high expectations but we got James Hardy!!!

[BillzRyan]

It's 10:05 and we're off and running...

[BillzRyan]

Kevin Smith drafted dy DET..."Silent Bob" is their running back? :)

[BillzRyan]

Fish grab another DE...they have obviously packed up Jason Taylor's locker for him while he's bee out dancing

[metsjr25]

and connor still sits... do we take that gamble?

[BillzRyan]

Dan Connor is still on the board...

[metsjr25]

great pick by Carolina getting godfrey

[CoachC.]

Pats deal pick to Bolts.

[BillzRyan]

Patsies just moved out of their spot

[CoachC.]

Jacob Hester! Bolts get a good football player.

[BillzRyan]

We're getting closer...

[BillzRyan]

Jacob Hester! Bolts get a good football player.

Agreed...I like that guy. Happy to see him in another division though.

Wow Chargers gave up a lot to make that jump! Pats once again gain picks and in next year's draft no less.

[metsjr25]

and NE keeps getting more and more picks

[meechiebills1]

some others available:
Earl Bennett
Col: Vanderbilt
Pos: Wide Reciever

Wallace Gilberry
Col: alabama
Pos: DE

[metsjr25]

almost our pick... connor still sitting there... a lot of TE's... or do we go DT and then trade back up into round 3 for a TE/

[CoachC.]

New England rapes San Diego.

They swap 3rds and pick up NEXT YEAR'S 2nd from the Bolts. Holy cow, that's a lot to pay for Jacob Hester.

[metsjr25]

Bennett just went to CHI

[BillzRyan]

and NE keeps getting more and more picks

Guess they have to gather other team's picks to make up for the others they may lose again after the league meets with Matt Walsh in a few weeks.

[Proteus]

Conner is there, please take him

[daryls61]

Bills on the clock

[BillzRyan]

We're on the clock...

[Proteus]

New England rapes San Diego.

They swap 3rds and pick up NEXT YEAR'S 2nd from the Bolts. Holy cow, that's a lot to pay for Jacob Hester.

Seriously

[FinNasty]

New England rapes San Diego.

They swap 3rds and pick up NEXT YEAR'S 2nd from the Bolts. Holy cow, that's a lot to pay for Jacob Hester.

They didnt swap 3rds...


NE just got SD's 5th this year and next years 2nd... for NE's 3rd.

[daryls61]

wonder if sd trade was guy bills were going to take?

[daryls61]

Sweet! !) milion chips for me!!

[McD]

Ellis

[metsjr25]

Chris Ellis is the pick

[TheAnswer74]

There is our edge rusher

[skoorah720]

Chris Ellis...

[imontoya]

great pick

[metsjr25]

interesting that Connor is dropping like this.

[BillzRyan]

Hmmm, Chris Ellis...didn't see that coming. I hear about him a lot, living in VA. He's a solid player, but his durability is a question. Still, solid addition for DE depth.

[Lateralus]

Good pick.

[TheAnswer74]

This draft is very strong

[jurr80]

Apparently an injury history with repeat shoulder surgeries. Also has been arrested for disorderly conduct.

[daryls61]

Now watch them trade up again to get the TE.

My guess: Kellen Davis TE Michigan State

[metsjr25]

KC takes Jammaal Charles RB...

I think we are going to trade back into round 3 to snag a player

[McD]

Interesting pick.

[McD]

I think we could have gotten him later.

[BillzRyan]

I would expect we grab a TE with the next pick, which could be later in this round vioa trade to move up. I don't see us drafting 10 players by draft's end.

[TheAnswer74]

I totally dropped Ellis off my board because of off the field concerns.

I had him rated over Cliff Avril, but I move Avril up do to his character.

LOL, The Bills are thinking win instead good guys.

I had Ellis going to the Bills in the 2nd in one of my mocks.

[metsjr25]

wow... Carolina with a great round 3

[McD]

Connor to Carolina.

[BillzRyan]

Connor finally gets drafted...nice pick Carolina

[McD]

I would expect we grab a TE with the next pick, which could be later in this round vioa trade to move up. I don't see us drafting 10 players by draft's end.


I agree with this assesment, but what the hell do I know?

[nATEFan22]

how long till you guys think caldwell will go?

[McD]

Chiefs up...damn, they're gonna get even more talent!

[McD]

Damn, there goes Cottam

[bullfrog1]

Chiefs said they wanted to get 6 starters from this draft.They might do it!

[meechiebills1]

alabama de wallace glberry is still on the board
bthey've already missed on earl bennett, wideoout at Vanderbilt, but they can still grab early deucett from LSU.

[BillzRyan]

Back to the Ellis pick: think back to last season and the problems we at at DE depth, be it b/c of injury to a player or suspension. We were grabbing guys off the street to fill in, so I have no issue with the Bills addressing this w/ their 3rd pick. My hope his that our staff can get this guy to play to the max of his ability. If he can do that, we ot ourselves a great pick, early 2nd round type talent in the 3rd.

[nATEFan22]

it pisses me off the guys on espnews are saying that conor is a little bit better than poz..

[BillzRyan]

it pisses me off the guys on espnews are saying that conor is a little bit better than poz..

There is a reason they're on ESPN News...not good enough to cut it for the B Level talent they have for Day 2 coverage on ESPN

[meechiebills1]

now they've missed the boat on dt pat sims (auburn).....who are the decision makers there? i think they're crazy, am i the only one?

[McD]

Still scratching my head a bit on the Ellis pick.

[JLB]

we had the 30th ranked defense.

[BLeonard]

it pisses me off the guys on espnews are saying that conor is a little bit better than poz..

How do you think that makes Poz feel?

Let em talk, Poz will shut them up soon enough :)

Anyone else think we're gonna trade back into the third? I don't see the Bills keeping all 10 picks.... That's a lot of picks to think they will all make the team.

-Bill

[mikgaes]

My guess is TE is not a big a need to the guys at OBD as we thought.

Plus, didn't OBD give Fowler a vote of confidence at one point?

TE and FB in the 4th.

[BLeonard]

Doucet to the Cardinals at #81... Replacing the "Great Bryant Johnson"... :)

-Bill

[Bills-RHRN]

does any one know what we got for the 3rd we traded to the Ravens?

[BillzRyan]

we had the 30th ranked defense.

And by that you mean defensive picks should be a priority of sorts? :)

[daryls61]

TE and LB in 4th

C in 5th

CB in 6th

S and DT in 7th

[bullfrog1]

Still scratching my head a bit on the Ellis pick.

i like the pick. we have the look of having a very got rotation on the front 4. and who knows maybe ellis will take over for schobel in 2 or 3 years.

[bullfrog1]

TE and LB in 4th

C in 5th

CB in 6th

S and DT in 7th

We need a FB in there somewhere

[comericatigers]

No TE for Tred and he's basically a rookie :scratch:

[hebert19]

love the ellis pick...now we grab a TE...or trade for shockey...a 4th this year and 2 next year??? :)

[bullfrog1]

I know OBD probably wont do it. But I would love it if one of our 4th was to draft Mario Manningham. But when you lie to teams.Well, not a good thing.

[McD]

i like the pick. we have the look of having a very got rotation on the front 4. and who knows maybe ellis will take over for schobel in 2 or 3 years.

I'm not a fan of the "tweener" type guys, and if he stays as a DE, I like them to be more versatile than playing 15 snaps a game. Of course if he can come in and get the pressure we need than that would make this pick a valuable one. Lets see the kid bulk up a bit.

[FinNasty]

I'm not happy that the Pats got Crable...

[Wing Eater]

How about one of the qbs in the fourth? Maybe Booty, Woodson, or Brennan?

[bullfrog1]

how do you guys feel about monk? interesting option he is another tall guy.

Marcus Monk WR 6-5 215 4.41 Arkansas

[Bills-RHRN]

does any one know what we got for the 3rd we traded to the Ravens?

anyone?


:headscratcher:

[imontoya]

How about one of the qbs in the fourth? Maybe Booty, Woodson, or Brennan?

I'd go with Booty or Josh Johnson, hopefully one of them is there with the 2nd pick in the 4th.

[imontoya]

anyone?


:headscratcher:
edit.

[Bills-RHRN]

edit.

what?

So we didn't have 2 thirds today? We had alredy traded that for Stroud?? is that whay your saying?
:headscratcher:

[imontoya]

what?

:headscratcher:
yes we used that on Marcus Stroud.

[Bills-RHRN]

cool thanks.. i was cornfused

[imontoya]

me too.

Bears took Marcus Harrison.

[bullfrog1]

cool thanks.. i was cornfused

sorry man! I thought you were throwing sarcasm around. we gave our extra picks in rd 3 and a fifth. but we have 2 4th now.

[imontoya]

dam. Colts take Phillip Wheeler.

[sukie]

New England on the clock with the 94th pick...

[sukie]

Patriots select... Kevin Oconnell QB SD State

[sukie]

And former weatherman.

[BillzRyan]

Patriots select... Kevin Oconnell QB SD State

Tom Brady better watch his back... :)

[BLeonard]

Pats just took Kevin O'Connell... Wonder if he was an A/V major in school, cause he likely won't see much of the field.

-Bill

[BLeonard]

Giants take Manningham

-Bill

[sukie]

That was a quick pick... Skins up

[drewfla]

Manningham to Giants.

[bullfrog1]

at least that pick can not hurt us.

[bullfrog1]

That gives giants Plax and mario. Nice!

[sukie]

Chad Reinhart OLINE Northern Illinois to the Skins

[sukie]

Bungals up!

[sukie]

Bungals take... with pick #97... Andre Caldwell... WR Florida


Atlanta next...

[sukie]

That is an interesting pick.

[BLeonard]

Looks less likely that the Bills will be trading up into the 3rd, anyway. I still think we package a couple picks and move up some.

-Bill

[jurr80]

What's left in our need positions? Every TE remaining doesn't have a decent grade.

[meechiebills1]

Wallace Gilberry
Col: alabama
Pos: DE

Jacob Tamme
Coll: Kentucky
Pos: T/E

[imontoya]

looks like Cincinnati is preparing for life after Chad Johnson. Caldwell and Jerome Simpson.

[sukie]

Is coulton (sp) still there?

[bullfrog1]

did I miss it or is Kellen Davis still available?

[BLeonard]

Did anyone else notice that Mort just dropped Tom Donahoe's name when talking about Kevin O'Connell?

-Bill

[phishhead220]

Did anyone else notice that Mort just dropped Tom Donahoe's name when talking about Kevin O'Connell?

-Bill

Well, so much for O'Connell being a decent football player. Mort sucks

[sukie]

LOL... Round 4 thread started.

[meechiebills1]

Anyone else notice Wallace Gilberry from univ of Alabama is still on the board??? I also like that Monk kid from Univ of Arkansas....we know they can compete because they played in the most competitive conference

[meechiebills1]

There are plenty of good players left on the board at Alabama, Kentucky and Mizzou

[meechiebills1]

should buffalo give andre woodson a try?