Did James Earl Ray kill MLK?

[shiva2999]

James Earl Ray plead guilty to Martin Luther King's murder but it was an "Alford" plea, a technicality where someone can plead guilty while maintaining their innocence.

How much do you REALLY know about the King assassination?

A redneck, a rifle and a motel in Memphis?

Case closed?

[Ru]

I view that assassination as I do the others of that era (JFK and RFK). Who had the most motivation and the most to gain from their demise? Certainly not the sorry loser that got trotted out there for the bloodthirsty public. To me, it's fairly clear that there is alot more to all three of these murders, but then again I'm supposedly a paranoid tin-foil hatter type.

[pmoon6]

James Earl Ray plead guilty to Martin Luther King's murder but it was an "Alford" plea, a technicality where someone can plead guilty while maintaining their innocence.

How much do you REALLY know about the King assassination?

A redneck, a rifle and a motel in Memphis?

Case closed?I think he did. You could make a case that he didn't, but there was more evidence than they had on Oswald.

Not saying that evidence couldn't have been manufactured. I read about it awhile ago, I'll do some more research.

[pmoon6]

Here's an interesting piece. It gives backround and it is extremely long.

http://www.crimelibrary.com/terrorists_spies/assassins/ray/1.html

[pmoon6]

There is one fact that I can't get beyond.

Ray says he ditched his car, went to Canada and then Great Britain because he thought he was being set up?

C'mon, he fled because he was afraid of getting caught.

[ticatfan3]

There is one fact that I can't get beyond.

Ray says he ditched his car, went to Canada and then Great Britain because he thought he was being set up?

C'mon, he fled because he was afraid of getting caught.Rumour has it he was ablt to get a canadian passport up here, did he have help.? IMO something else haqppen,malcom x and others?

[35Pete]

If he wasn't killed by Ray then only one group would be able to fabricate that evidence.

[Crinoline]

If he wasn't killed by Ray then only one group would be able to fabricate that evidence.

George Bush did it of course.

[35Pete]

George Bush did it of course.

Everyone knows a henchman never acts without orders.

[slowpokemcgee]

If he wasn't killed by Ray then only one group would be able to fabricate that evidence.

Gee, I would have never guessed you'd post something like this.

[K-Gun]

The FBI had King under constant surveillance, even if Ray killed King in a lone psychotic act, the FBI could have easily stopped it.

Alas, they had a written policy of NOT informing King when there were credible threats against his life.

[C Darwin]

Alas, they had a written policy of NOT informing King when there were credible threats against his life.

They didn't have a policy of informing the public that he was plagiarizing his speeches, beating his prostitutes, and calling him by his real name, Mike.

Who could be so unthoughtful and uninformed to make these accusations against the 20th century's most famous communist? me? David Duke? nope! Try his BEST FRIEND! Ralph Abernathy in his book And the Walls Came Tumbling Down.

[K-Gun]

They didn't have a policy of informing the public that he was plagiarizing his speeches, beating his prostitutes, and calling him by his real name, Mike.

Who could be so unthoughtful and uninformed to make these accusations against the 20th century's most famous communist? me? David Duke? nope! Try his BEST FRIEND! Ralph Abernathy in his book And the Walls Came Tumbling Down.

all the more reason to kill the ******.

[35Pete]

all the more reason to kill the ******.

Yes indeed. We should kill people for much lesser sins. What were you thinking bro?

[K-Gun]

Yes indeed. We should kill people for much lesser sins. What were you thinking bro?

Did you know:

In 1999, Coretta Scott King, King's widow, along with the rest of King's family, won a wrongful death civil trial against Loyd Jowers and "other unknown co-conspirators". Jowers claimed to have received $100,000 to arrange King's assassination. The jury of six whites and six blacks found Jowers guilty and that "governmental agencies were parties" to the assassination plot.[38] William F. Pepper represented the King family in the trial.[39][40][41]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther_King,_Jr.

http://www.thekingcenter.org/tkc/trial.html

[35Pete]

Did you know:

In 1999, Coretta Scott King, King's widow, along with the rest of King's family, won a wrongful death civil trial against Loyd Jowers and "other unknown co-conspirators". Jowers claimed to have received $100,000 to arrange King's assassination. The jury of six whites and six blacks found Jowers guilty and that "governmental agencies were parties" to the assassination plot.[38] William F. Pepper represented the King family in the trial.[39][40][41]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther_King,_Jr.

http://www.thekingcenter.org/tkc/trial.html

Tin-hatter.

Our beloved America has NEVER done anything immoral against it's own people.

Never. Besides. Why bitch? You sound whiny. Just stick your head in the sand and deny it. What are you trying to do, get attention or something?

[35Pete]

K-Gun.

Did you know that MLK was a target of COININTELPRO?

[sukie]

Tin-hatter.

Our beloved America has NEVER done anything immoral against it's own people.

Never. Besides. Why bitch? You sound whiny. Just stick your head in the sand and deny it. What are you trying to do, get attention or something?

Yup... Being a true american requires you to be pissed off and full of rage 24-7

[C Darwin]

K-Gun.

Did you know that MLK was a target of COININTELPRO?
I did. The tapes that were made by the FBI are classified until 2025.

[35Pete]

Yup... Being a true american requires you to be pissed off and full of rage 24-7

Or just plain give a crap period. Maybe their is so much nonsense in the air that a little bitching about a lot of things seems to add up.

No. I am not an angry person. It's my stchick here. :)

[Gibby]

They didn't have a policy of informing the public that he was plagiarizing his speeches, beating his prostitutes, and calling him by his real name, Mike.

Who could be so unthoughtful and uninformed to make these accusations against the 20th century's most famous communist? me? David Duke? nope! Try his BEST FRIEND! Ralph Abernathy in his book And the Walls Came Tumbling Down.

I see a banishment in your future. Way to use the boys over at stormfront.org again

[Gibby]

They didn't have a policy of informing the public that he was plagiarizing his speeches, beating his prostitutes, and calling him by his real name, Mike.

Who could be so unthoughtful and uninformed to make these accusations against the 20th century's most famous communist? me? David Duke? nope! Try his BEST FRIEND! Ralph Abernathy in his book And the Walls Came Tumbling Down.

Interesting, but why the **** should I care what King did in his private life? I don't, so he slept with white whores he slept with white women he be a playa go Doctor K. Oh and Mike was his name until his father changed his name in 1935 in honor of Martin Luther.

[sukie]

Or just plain give a crap period. Maybe their is so much nonsense in the air that a little bitching about a lot of things seems to add up.

No. I am not an angry person. It's my stchick here. :)

LOL... Pete you have enough unconscious roles tat you already play in your daily life. That saps alot of energy from you.

[35Pete]

I see a banishment in your future. Way to use the boys over at stormfront.org again

huh?

[uppy]

K-Gun.

Did you know that MLK was a target of COININTELPRO?

The forces which are most anxious to weaken our internal security are not always easy to identify. Communists have been trained in deceit and secretly work toward the day when they hope to replace our American way of life with a Communist dictatorship. They utilize cleverly camouflaged movements, such as peace groups and civil rights groups to achieve their sinister purposes. While they as individuals are difficult to identify, the Communist party line is clear. Its first concern is the advancement of Soviet Russia and the godless Communist cause. It is important to learn to know the enemies of the American way of life.

~ J.Edgar Hoover

[35Pete]

The forces which are most anxious to weaken our internal security are not always easy to identify. Communists have been trained in deceit and secretly work toward the day when they hope to replace our American way of life with a Communist dictatorship. They utilize cleverly camouflaged movements, such as peace groups and civil rights groups to achieve their sinister purposes. While they as individuals are difficult to identify, the Communist party line is clear. Its first concern is the advancement of Soviet Russia and the godless Communist cause. It is important to learn to know the enemies of the American way of life.

~ J.Edgar Hoover
Hoover was a dirtbag. I'd be embarrassed to quote him.

COININTELPRO was (is) a stain on our honor. We were making the claim, and quite loudly in fact, that we were morally superior to the Warsaw Pact.

Yet all along we engaged in the very same nonsense that we opposed from our hearts.

Tell me bro. How does that make you feel?

[K-Gun]

The forces which are most anxious to weaken our internal security are not always easy to identify. Communists have been trained in deceit and secretly work toward the day when they hope to replace our American way of life with a Communist dictatorship. They utilize cleverly camouflaged movements, such as peace groups and civil rights groups to achieve their sinister purposes. While they as individuals are difficult to identify, the Communist party line is clear. Its first concern is the advancement of Soviet Russia and the godless Communist cause. It is important to learn to know the enemies of the American way of life.

~ J.Edgar Hoover

J.Edgar Hoover is currently being raped by a pineapple in hell.

[sukie]

Hell on earth is where hell is. Unfortunately Hoover is not here.

[35Pete]

Hell on earth is where hell is. Unfortunately Hoover is not here.

And so earth is a little less hellish.

[sukie]

It's still hell for the unconscious

[Gibby]

The forces which are most anxious to weaken our internal security are not always easy to identify. Communists have been trained in deceit and secretly work toward the day when they hope to replace our American way of life with a Communist dictatorship. They utilize cleverly camouflaged movements, such as peace groups and civil rights groups to achieve their sinister purposes. While they as individuals are difficult to identify, the Communist party line is clear. Its first concern is the advancement of Soviet Russia and the godless Communist cause. It is important to learn to know the enemies of the American way of life.

~ J.Edgar Hoover

Thats very convincing considering the guy who said it wore girdles and was a known cross dresser.

[sukie]

Thats very convincing considering the guy who said it wore girdles and was a known cross dresser.
That was not who he was... That was the form structure he created for himelf.

[pmoon6]

Thats very convincing considering the guy who said it wore girdles and was a known cross dresser.What do you care what he did behind closed doors?

It's what he did in his job that should be criticized.

[uppy]

Hoover was a dirtbag. I'd be embarrassed to quote him.

COININTELPRO was (is) a stain on our honor. We were making the claim, and quite loudly in fact, that we were morally superior to the Warsaw Pact.

Yet all along we engaged in the very same nonsense that we opposed from our hearts.

Tell me bro. How does that make you feel?

We were and are superior to those countrys
and programs like COININTELPRO are needed
today to combat the threats that we
now face.

[sukie]

We were and are superior to those countrys
and programs like COININTELPRO are needed
today to combat the threats that we
now face.

Your unconsciousness requires the thought of superiority to baste your ego in the juices it desires.

[uppy]

J.Edgar Hoover is currently being raped by a pineapple in hell.

Hoover had his dark side for sure but he did his job in difficult times.I'm not going to judge the
man on that.

[Gibby]

What do you care what he did behind closed doors?

It's what he did in his job that should be criticized.

mental instability? It could explain away much of what he did in his job. Otherwise I agree, and even if I do not mention his private life I know of tons of shit he did to the people he was paid to protect that was extremely unconstitutional.

[uppy]

Your unconsciousness requires the thought of superiority to baste your ego in the juices it desires.

:rofl:

You need to send me that book

[35Pete]

What do you care what he did behind closed doors?

It's what he did in his job that should be criticized.

Bravo.

But it's his job that I am criticizing. And in fairness to Gibby bro, hypocisy is insight into the character of any man. Would you not agree?

[uppy]

mental instability? It could explain away much of what he did in his job. Otherwise I agree, and even if I do not mention his private life I know of tons of shit he did to the people he was paid to protect that was extremely unconstitutional.

There are times you need to break the rules

for the good of the country....don't you agree

[Gibby]

There are times you need to break the rules

for the good of the country....don't you agree

Well some rules, but things like the constitution, the Geneva convention, and other things based on constitutional protections should never be broken.

[35Pete]

We were and are superior to those countrys
and programs like COININTELPRO are needed
today to combat the threats that we
now face.

What makes us superior?

If we are what we condemn then what's left to grab onto where we can claim superiority?

If it's because we are Americans, then honest bro, that's the same ethnocentric nationalistic horseshit that the third reich engaged in. I'd like to think that we don't believe that way.

That is, if we have pride in ourselves then it must be some set of compelling and intrinsically moral value construct that we endear to.

So, what is it?

[shiva2999]

What do you care what he did behind closed doors?

It's what he did in his job that should be criticized.

That's what Max Mosley says too.

[C Darwin]

Interesting, but why the **** should I care what King did in his private life? I don't, so he slept with white whores he slept with white women he be a playa go Doctor K. Oh and Mike was his name until his father changed his name in 1935 in honor of Martin Luther.

Hey, I'm just uncelebrating. You can just sit back and watch for all I care. I just like to point out how he used to punch hookers and advocate for non-violent political change. It's the good stuff.

[uppy]

What makes us superior?

If we are what we condemn then what's left to grab onto where we can claim superiority?

If it's because we are Americans, then honest bro, that's the same ethnocentric nationalistic horseshit that the third reich engaged in. I'd like to think that we don't believe that way.

That is, if we have pride in ourselves then it must be some set of compelling and intrinsically moral value construct that we endear to.

So, what is it?

The people from the old Warsaw Pact countrys
love the the good old USA.Most of them wish
they could live in our country if fact most of
the world wishes they were Americans.

Thats why we are superior to the rest of the
world

[Mr. Politenessman]

The people from the old Warsaw Pact countrys
love the the good old USA.Most of them wish
they could live in our country if fact most of
the world wishes they were Americans.

Thats why we are superior to the rest of the
world

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/1007/boratlebanon0109jw4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[35Pete]

There are times you need to break the rules

for the good of the country....don't you agree

No. I don't agree.

[35Pete]

The people from the old Warsaw Pact countrys
love the the good old USA.Most of them wish
they could live in our country if fact most of
the world wishes they were Americans.

Thats why we are superior to the rest of the
world

Can you prove this or is this your view of reality?

And again. What makes us different from our enemies? That they are overt about the bullshit that they pull on their people and we are more sly about it?

[K-Gun]

Hey, I'm just uncelebrating. You can just sit back and watch for all I care. I just like to point out how he used to punch hookers and advocate for non-violent political change. It's the good stuff.

Next you're going to tell us that the Holocaust never happened.

[35Pete]

Next you're going to tell us that the Holocaust never happened.

There is a certain religion whose flock denies that they ever participated in a concurrent holocaust.

[C Darwin]

Next you're going to tell us that the Holocaust never happened.

No, but I am going to remind everybody that people in Europe are jailed for publishing holocaust revisionist text. Social marxists like yourself probably think that's cool.

:thumbsup:

[K-Gun]

No, but I am going to remind everybody that people in Europe are jailed for publishing holocaust revisionist text. Social marxists like yourself probably think that's cool.

:thumbsup:

Revistionist history? You're a joke, you claim that Abernathy alleges that King beat prostitutes, when in fact he did not even explicitly confirm that King slept with other women. Go peddle your wears else where, try stormfront, your antics will be well received there.

[C Darwin]

Revistionist history? You're a joke, you claim that Abernathy alleges that King beat prostitutes, when in fact he did not even explicitly confirm that King slept with other women. Go peddle your wears else where, try stormfront, your antics will be well received there.
Your wrong douchebag, read the book.

[K-Gun]

Your wrong douchebag, read the book.

:rofl:

This coming from a guy who professes his particular dislike for black people and their problems. When you read the book did you beat off to critical comments direced at King, or are you just spreading bullshit rumors?

[C Darwin]

This coming from a guy who professes his particular dislike for black people and their problems.
Why would anyone like a group of people that violently attacks people like me at ten times the rate that people like me attack them?

I guess I don't hate myself or people like me that much.
:When you read the book did you beat off to critical comments direced at King, or are you just spreading bullshit rumors?

His comments aren't critical. As I posted before, they were the best of friends. Most of the book is storytelling about different rallies and speeches. But MLK's exploits with the hoe's are mentioned several times in a matter of fact way.

And yeah, I do enjoy looking at the tarnish of this false hero.

[K-Gun]

Why would anyone like a group of people that violently attacks people like me at ten times the rate that people like me attack them?

I guess I don't hate myself or people like me that much.


His comments aren't critical. As I posted before, they were the best of friends. Most of the book is storytelling about different rallies and speeches. But MLK's exploits with the hoe's are mentioned several times in a matter of fact way.

And yeah, I do enjoy looking at the tarnish of this false hero.

Here's a suggestion, track your family tree back to its European roots, and then move back to the country you came from. You won't have to deal with evil black people.

[C Darwin]

Here's a suggestion, track your family tree back to its European roots, and then move back to the country you came from. You won't have to deal with evil black people.
Whites have had enough diaspora, we certainly don't need anymore.

[K-Gun]

Whites have had enough diaspora, we certainly don't need anymore.

Exactly, return to the motherland where pure blood reigns.

[shiva2999]

His comments aren't critical. As I posted before, they were the best of friends. Most of the book is storytelling about different rallies and speeches. But MLK's exploits with the hoe's are mentioned several times in a matter of fact way.

Is their any way you can provide a link or text for any of your beefs against MLK?

Sometimes I find that I differ with people on interpretation.

[C Darwin]

Is their any way you can provide a link or text for any of your beefs against MLK?

Sometimes I find that I differ with people on interpretation.
Read the book!

But this is about the best the net has to offer.
http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/outrage/mlking.asp

[shiva2999]

Read the book!

But this is about the best the net has to offer.
http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/outrage/mlking.asp

You should read the links you post...

http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/outrage/mlking.asp

Unfortunately, the document doesn't allow itself to be cut and pasted but snopes says that Abernathy's book does NOT claim what you say it does and there is a rebuttal by Abernathy himself.

You're looking bad here dude.

[uppy]

No. I don't agree.

Well there are some that do for the good of
the country

[uppy]

Can you prove this or is this your view of reality?

And again. What makes us different from our enemies? That they are overt about the bullshit that they pull on their people and we are more sly about it?


What do we pull on our people Pete ?

Why do you need proof of my first point....

People are banging on the door by the Millions

trying to get into this Great Country "Legally"

[C Darwin]

You should read the links you post...

http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/outrage/mlking.asp

Unfortunately, the document doesn't allow itself to be cut and pasted but snopes says that Abernathy's book does NOT claim what you say it does and there is a rebuttal by Abernathy himself.

You're looking bad here dude.
Only to people who aren't going to read the book

[shiva2999]

Only to people who aren't going to read the book

So you want me to read the book even though snopes, who you pointed me to, says the book doesn't say what you say it says?

Surely you can understand my reluctance.

[C Darwin]

So you want me to read the book even though snopes, who you pointed me to, says the book doesn't say what you say it says?

Surely you can understand my reluctance.

yes I can. I read this book about a year ago and lent it out to a friend. He still has it. You want specifics, I'll get the specifics. I will accept all criticisms until I can retype from the book.

[shiva2999]

yes I can. I read this book about a year ago and lent it out to a friend. He still has it. You want specifics, I'll get the specifics. I will accept all criticisms until I can retype from the book.

Fair enough.

[K-Gun]

So you want me to read the book even though snopes, who you pointed me to, says the book doesn't say what you say it says?

Surely you can understand my reluctance.

After reading the "urban myth" that King beat white prostitutes, he stopped reading. Seeing it in print was enough for him. He didn't bother to read whether or not snopes said it was true, well, because that wouldn't be a very white thing to do.

[C Darwin]

After reading the "urban myth" that King beat white prostitutes, he stopped reading. Seeing it in print was enough for him. He didn't bother to read whether or not snopes said it was true, well, because that wouldn't be a very white thing to do.
I read it you two dingleberries! What I'm saying is that this article is the closest thing to the book that the internet offers. What the article fails to discuss is the night King was murdered, amongst other things.

The call is in, I'm seeing my friend on Sunday.

[uppy]

After reading the "urban myth" that King beat white prostitutes, he stopped reading. Seeing it in print was enough for him. He didn't bother to read whether or not snopes said it was true, well, because that wouldn't be a very white thing to do.

"urban myth"

:rofl:


It seems it's a very white thing to acuse Mr.
Bush of killing 3,000 of our own citizens when it fits your agenda.I guess its up to each of us to believe what one is reading.

[35Pete]

"urban myth"

:rofl:


It seems it's a very white thing to acuse Mr.
Bush of killing 3,000 of our own citizens when it fits your agenda.I guess its up to each of us to believe what one is reading.

It's not a myth. There is enough evidence to form a criminal case.

It's a murder charge beggin to be filed.

[K-Gun]

"urban myth"

:rofl:


It seems it's a very white thing to acuse Mr.
Bush of killing 3,000 of our own citizens when it fits your agenda.I guess its up to each of us to believe what one is reading.

You're brain dead.

Darwin claimed that the snopes page proves the King beat white hookers.

The ****ing page askes the question, "is it true that Martin Luther King beat white hookers?"

AND THEN IT SAYS, NO HE DID NOT.

Darwin is a little shit stain with a brain the size of a maggot. I see you're trying hard to follow in his footsteps.