Ok, Im there now....Joe Flacco in the 2nd.

[TheAnswer74]

Why?

Cold weather QB, big, strong arm, decent mobility.

We have Trent, get a VET Backup, and let Flacco develop.

Its like an investment. We make an investment in Flacco, if in 2 years Trent Edwards is our guy, we move Flacco for a pick, hopefully equal or more return.

I just think this guy is too good to pass up.

The Bills may get a 4th for Losman and a 4th compensatory.

We can bundle picks and get back into the 2nd if we covet a guy.

Ok, I said it. I want Flacco.

[treydawg]

No.

[JayHall93]

What the faulk are you thinking? trying to upgrade the most important position on a football team? sheesh.

Seriously, the only way we could afford to draft a qb that high, is if we traded down in the first and picked up and extra 2nd. in that case, it's a free pick, what the hell, but straight up ours, we can't afford that.

[TheAnswer74]

No.

Yes.

This guy is perfect for Buffalo, and its a 2nd round investment.

[TheAnswer74]

What the faulk are you thinking? trying to upgrade the most important position on a football team? sheesh.

Seriously, the only way we could afford to draft a qb that high, is if we traded down in the first and picked up and extra 2nd. in that case, it's a free pick, what the hell, but straight up ours, we can't afford that.

Why cant we afford it?

Yes, in a perfect world I would love to get extra picks in a trade down and do it.

We can get our WR in the 1st and our TE in the 3rd. Add depth on the OL and CB in the 4th and 5th rounds.

I think we have a great opportunity here.

[treydawg]

Whatever, you flip flop more than anyone on this board. Didn't you have Brian Brohm and Andre Woodson in your sig during the season? Flacco is rising up draft boards too fast. Still inaccurate. So what if he has a big arm.

[JayHall93]

Why cant we afford it?

Yes, in a perfect world I would love to get extra picks in a trade down and do it.

We can get our WR in the 1st and our TE in the 3rd. Add depth on the OL and CB in the 4th and 5th rounds.

I think we have a great opportunity here.

we have pressing needs at CB, WR, TE. if we use a pick on a developmental QB with our 2nd pick, we're shooting ourselves in the foot. I'm not against drafting another QB, but only if it's an extra pick from a trade down.

[TheAnswer74]

Whatever, you flip flop more than anyone on this board. Didn't you have Brian Brohm and Andre Woodson in your sig during the season? Flacco is rising up draft boards too fast. Still inaccurate. So what if he has a big arm.

Why do you always call me a flip flopper.

Its called having an open mind. Who here has had the same mock draft since the summer? or the same opinions on players as they did a year ago? The only people that do are stubborn and hard headed.

Why dont you try giving insight instead of attacking the poster.

[Carl J. Ironsides]

Incredibly retarded. Sorry.

So much for "Edwards = Forwards," eh?

[TheAnswer74]

Incredibly retarded. Sorry.

Why is it retarded?

[Johnlaf]

Regardless of Flacco's merits, I think that it would be very detrimental to the development of Trent Edwards for the Bills to spend a 2nd round pick on a QB. If Edwards is the guy, as the Bills seem to be indicating, then we don't need another young QB that we have invested a first day pick on. The Bills will need a veteran backup as a just in case/not threaten to replace Edwards. A 7th round pick to place on IR or the practice squad might be a possibility but certainly not a 2nd round pick so we can begin the QB controversy all over again.

If the Bills don't move forward with a QB, the team will never have the production or focus to get to the playoffs. If you hate Edwards and think he should be replaced, then I could see drafting Flacco (I say that Edwards will be the guy, let him play), but to say he's good value and good for the team, I can't agree with that. Drafting Flacco would only spin our quarterback situation around again. Either the team is on board with Edwards or they are not. If they flip flop around it will hinder his development and the teams development.

Without a doubt the quarterback is an important position but to add another guy like Flacco to the mix would hurt more than it helps. Let Edwards be the guy for a year or two, if he doesn't pan out then we will have to sign or draft his replacement. After only half a season is not the time to do this. Let's not destroy ruin the development process and try to make Edwards be the guy.

To sum up, if you love Flacco, you would be drafting him with a 2nd round pick to be the guy, not to sit on the bench waiting behind Trent. You can't call it grooming his replacement with only 1 season under his belt.

[Carl J. Ironsides]

Regardless of Flacco's merits, I think that it would be very detrimental to the development of Trent Edwards for the Bills to spend a 2nd round pick on a QB. If Edwards is the guy, as the Bills seem to be indicating, then we don't need another young QB that we have invested a first day pick on. The Bills will need a veteran backup as a just in case/not threaten to replace Edwards. A 7th round pick to place on IR or the practice squad might be a possibility but certainly not a 2nd round pick so we can begin the QB controversy all over again.

If the Bills don't move forward with a QB, the team will never have the production or focus to get to the playoffs. If you hate Edwards and think he should be replaced, then I could see drafting Flacco (I say that Edwards will be the guy, let him play), but to say he's good value and good for the team, I can't agree with that. Drafting Flacco would only spin our quarterback situation around again. Either the team is on board with Edwards or they are not. If they flip flop around it will hinder his development and the teams development.

Without a doubt the quarterback is an important position but to add another guy like Flacco to the mix would hurt more than it helps. Let Edwards be the guy for a year or two, if he doesn't pan out then we will have to sign or draft his replacement. After only half a season is not the time to do this. Let's not destroy ruin the development process and try to make Edwards be the guy.

To sum up, if you love Flacco, you would be drafting him with a 2nd round pick to be the guy, not to sit on the bench waiting behind Trent. You can't call it grooming his replacement with only 1 season under his belt.

Common sense, meet the War Room.

[TheAnswer74]

Regardless of Flacco's merits, I think that it would be very detrimental to the development of Trent Edwards for the Bills to spend a 2nd round pick on a QB. If Edwards is the guy, as the Bills seem to be indicating, then we don't need another young QB that we have invested a first day pick on. The Bills will need a veteran backup as a just in case/not threaten to replace Edwards. A 7th round pick to place on IR or the practice squad might be a possibility but certainly not a 2nd round pick so we can begin the QB controversy all over again.

If the Bills don't move forward with a QB, the team will never have the production or focus to get to the playoffs. If you hate Edwards and think he should be replaced, then I could see drafting Flacco (I say that Edwards will be the guy, let him play), but to say he's good value and good for the team, I can't agree with that. Drafting Flacco would only spin our quarterback situation around again. Either the team is on board with Edwards or they are not. If they flip flop around it will hinder his development and the teams development.

Without a doubt the quarterback is an important position but to add another guy like Flacco to the mix would hurt more than it helps. Let Edwards be the guy for a year or two, if he doesn't pan out then we will have to sign or draft his replacement. After only half a season is not the time to do this. Let's not destroy ruin the development process and try to make Edwards be the guy.

To sum up, if you love Flacco, you would be drafting him with a 2nd round pick to be the guy, not to sit on the bench waiting behind Trent. You can't call it grooming his replacement with only 1 season under his belt.

I dont think it would hurt Edwards at all. It shouldnt. If Edwards does turn out to be a 3rd round steal and a playoff caliber QB, then we win, if not we have Flacco waiting for his turn.

This would be a 2 or 3 year investment. Just in case Edwards ISNT the guy.

I dont want to be here 2 years from now worrying about developing a QB If Edwards isnt the guy. If a player like Flacco was there, I dont see how the Bills wouldnt be tempted.

Flacco has too much ability to pass on. Ide rather have to trade Flacco in 2 or 3 years because Edwards is lighting it up then have to draft a guy we need to be ready that moment to play.

[Blofan4life]

I don't like investment prospect taken in the second and especially since it is a QB. I think that to draft a QB in the second to be a 3rd stringer is just plain stupid. If trent is a bust when he plays a full season we will see this year and if that is the case we can get a real high draft pick and draft Teabow next year to be the starter. Give Trent a full year of work before counting him out of him being our future.

[ksl66]

No Flacco, besides he wouldn't be there at 41, I would think he either goes at 32 to Miami or 34 to Atlanta, if not at the end of round 1 in a trade up.

[imontoya]

I dont think it would hurt Edwards at all. It shouldnt. If Edwards does turn out to be a 3rd round steal and a playoff caliber QB, then we win, if not we have Flacco waiting for his turn.

This would be a 2 or 3 year investment. Just in case Edwards ISNT the guy.

I dont want to be here 2 years from now worrying about developing a QB If Edwards isnt the guy. If a player like Flacco was there, I dont see how the Bills wouldnt be tempted.

Flacco has too much ability to pass on. Ide rather have to trade Flacco in 2 or 3 years because Edwards is lighting it up then have to draft a guy we need to be ready that moment to play.

I like your reasoning, but I don't think drafting Flacco in the 2nd would be a good decision. I don't think at 41 Flacco will be the best available player. And I think it's much more important to either continue trying to build a dominate D-line or get some offensive weapons. There's going to be some good TEs or WRs there at 41 and maybe even a decent edge rusher. Any of those positions will be likely get us to the playoffs before a QB sitting the bench for 2-3 years will. Drafting Flacco would be keeping the team stagnant.

I definitely agree with getting a QB to develop in case Edwards busts and to replace Losman. I'd be in favor of getting a QB as early as the 3rd, if say Henne fell. Or in the 4th if Ainge or Woodson were there. But I see the Bills going with a guy later that they can get on the practice squad, like an Ostrander or Smith.

[TheAnswer74]

1st #11 - WR Limas Sweed/Devin Thomas.

2nd #41 - QB Joe Flacco

3rd #72 - CB Charles Godfrey

4th #110 - C John Sullivan/Steve Justice

4th Compensatory - FB Owen Schmitt

5th JP Losman to KC/Atlanta - DE Jason Jones

5th #135 - TE Kellen Davis

6th # - WR Marcus Monk

7th round picks - best available

[ksl66]

No way Kellen Davis is available in round 5, I wouldn't be surprised if he went in the middle of round 2. Someone is going to fall in love with the triangle numbers and overdraft him, I just hope it isn't the Bills and if the Bills were in a better situation at the TE/WR positions, I would say take a CB in the first and then roll the dice on Flacco int he second, but they just can't ignore those holes.

[imontoya]

1st #11 - WR Limas Sweed/Devin Thomas.

2nd #41 - QB Joe Flacco

3rd #72 - CB Charles Godfrey

4th #110 - C John Sullivan/Steve Justice

4th Compensatory - FB Owen Schmitt

5th JP Losman to KC/Atlanta - DE Jason Jones

5th #135 - TE Kellen Davis

6th # - WR Marcus Monk

7th round picks - best available

I think waiting till the 5th to take a TE would be a big mistake, when 1 of these 3 should be there at 41: Fred Davis, Martellus Bennett, or Dustin Keller.

[TheAnswer74]

I think waiting till the 5th to take a TE would be a big mistake, when 1 of these 3 should be there at 41: Fred Davis, Martellus Bennett, or Dustin Keller.

Lets say one of the top 3 TE's fall to the mid to late 2nd, we could always, trade a 3rd, 5th and 7th for a 2nd round pick.

There is a lot we can do. I predict we will have multiple 4th round, 5th round picks come draft day.

I like the overall depth of our football team. TE, OT, CB need the depth, QB when we trade Losman. After we signed Will James, Im OK with Greer, McGee, James, Youboty entering the year. I didnt want Youboty as our only nickle option. I still would love to get a physical #1 or 2 CB, but I can live with those 4 right now, adding a 3rd-5th rounder to compete. I think our WR depth is good, we just need that #2 WR.

Most of my mock I posted is best available after the 1st round.

[jlpubarch]

Flacco is a cool name...I'm down.

[imontoya]

Lets say one of the top 3 TE's fall to the mid to late 2nd, we could always, trade a 3rd, 5th and 7th for a 2nd round pick.

There is a lot we can do. I predict we will have multiple 4th round, 5th round picks come draft day.

I like the overall depth of our football team. TE, WR, OT, CB need the depth, QB when we trade Losman. After we signed Will James, Im OK with Greer, McGee, James, Youboty entering the year. I didnt want Youboty as our only nickle option. I still would love to get a physical #1 or 2 CB, but I can live with those 4 right now, adding a 3rd-5th rounder to compete.

Meh, I'm not sold on depth at any of our positions other than LB and maybe DT (on paper). That's why I'm hoping our first 3 picks go to players that can make an impact w/in the next two seasons.

I guess we'll know soon enough about comp picks, and if we get a 4th I'll be pumped. But I think it'll be lower than that. I'm also content to keep Losman if we can't get a 3rd for him.

[Callaway]

I'm sorry this is just a dumb idea. With a good draft especially in the first three rounds we could push and likely make the playoffs this year. There are far better players and positions that could be selected in the second round of this draft than a back up QB especially when it looks like we have found a good one in Edwards. If you want to draft one in the 6th or the 7th whatever but we could still be picking a big contributor in the second round of this draft at where we are picking

[Buffalo1]

A second rounder should be a developmental project, it should be a starter.

[TheAnswer74]

A second rounder should be a developmental project, it should be a starter.

Really? Some 1st round QB's dont even start.

I dont think 2nd rounders should be starters right away, even if its not a QB.

[kdhammond]

Flacco played at a low level of competition and wasn't even special there. The ONLY reason he is being touted as a 2nd or 3rd round pick is because he is tall and has a big arm. If you want a big arm, keep Losman.

Here are the teams that Flacco played against this year:
William and Mary (William was hurt), West Chester, Rhode Island, Towson, Monmouth,
Rhode Island, NH, Northeastern, Navy, James Madison, Richmond, Villanova, Delaware St, Northern Iowa, Southern Illinois, Appalaichain St.

Against mighty Villanova and Appalaichan St combined he was: 40-85 passing.

This guy should not be drafted before round 4. Let some other team waste a pick on him.

[danamal85]

I don't mind the idea of drafting a developmental guy in the later rounds and grooming him regardless of the position. However, what happens in two years if Flacco looks great in pre-season or something. How do you find out how much he is worth? I just don't see the value there when you can draft a guy in the second round and depending on the position get a guy who will start instantly and be a potential pro bowler at a position with in a year or two (especially talking about positions like tight end which aren't valued quite as highly). Then take some lesser known prospect who has an arm in the later rounds and see if you can develop him to be a potential starter and then your return on investment could be quite a bit higher.

[Buffalo1]

If you draft a QB in the first or even the second then he should be the starter in year 2 possibly three if there is a well entrenched starter. As for other positions, 2nd rounder should be contributing significantly like Poz b4 injury.

[bcw]

No QB controversies please. We have other positions to address and a 2nd round pick should play a significant role on next year's squad.

As well, there is a reason certain TE's are going to be drafted in the 5th round----because they either suck, are extremely raw, have injury concerns or they have a ton of bagage. Just throwing anyone out there doesn't solve our TE problem. To finally address our TE problem you are going to have to use a 2nd or 3rd round pick, and even at that it will most likely take a year for them to step up.

[TheAnswer74]

OK guys, maybe not as high as round 2, but I think it would be a good idea to take another QB in the mid rounds. develop a QB just in case Edwards isnt the guy.

[Johnlaf]

6th or 7th round pick this year. QB to be put on IR or on the practice squad. Gives the Bills a developmental project who is not an immediate threat to Edwards, but who may develop into something over time. Edwards may not be the guy but he has to be given time to prove or disprove himself.

[Buffalo1]

OK guys, maybe not as high as round 2, but I think it would be a good idea to take another QB in the mid rounds. develop a QB just in case Edwards isnt the guy.

I would be fine with a Josh Johnson or a Kevin O'connell in the 5th or later.

[Blofan4life]

If we are thinking about a QB to pick later on, why not Brennen. He could easily be a 6th or 7th round pick. This guy had such high expectations going into his senior year and I think he disappointed a little with the lowering of his draft pick. He could be a nice developmental, third stinger who has some upside.

[Mouldsie]

nah

[billsfan69]

If we are thinking about a QB to pick later on, why not Brennen. He could easily be a 6th or 7th round pick. This guy had such high expectations going into his senior year and I think he disappointed a little with the lowering of his draft pick. He could be a nice developmental, third stinger who has some upside.

Colt Brennan is horrible. He comes from a run and shoot offense and pretty much no quarterback in college who played in that system ever did anything in the NFL. Plus most personnel guys in the NFL say his mechanics are awful. It's arena football for him or the CFL.