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JayHall93
March 9th, 2008, 9:26:06 PM
1)- Derrick Harvey, DE Florida. This guy would really shore up our DL and take over a starting spot right away. He is just what we need to create havoc from the defensive line. He will also probably be the best available player when we pick.

2)- Mike Pollak, C Arizona. We need to finish our rebuild on the line we started a few years ago when we made Peters our LT. Pollak will be able to start right away and anchor our O line for years to come.

3)- Jermichael Finley, TE Texas. He would emerge as our top receiving TE. He's not as good of a blocker, but what we really need out of the TE position is pass catching ability, and Finley would bring that to us.

4)- Tyvon Branch, CB Connecticut. Very nice size/speed combo, and good talent coming from a lower level of competition. Not the best at press man to man, but could definately do well in zone coverage.

5)- Jason Rivers, WR Hawaii. Good size/speed and has enough ability to compete with our WR's to push for 3/4th wideout as a rookie. Has the stats from a pass happy offense, but also has the knack for finding the hole in coverage. Very much worth a look in this area of the draft.

6)- Joe Jon Finley, TE Oklahoma. Former high school Qb, who i know personally. He is athletic enough to compete, and would be the finishing touch to our upgrade at the position. A little raw, but is a competitor and would push hard our current Te's .

7)- Jack Ikegwuonu, CB Wisconsin. A massive knee injury prevents him from going much higher in the draft. A real gamble with his health, but if he comes out ok next year, he could compete for a roster spot. A tough pill to put a guy on IR right from the draftboard, but he's worth a shot for sure.

7)- Vince Redd, LB Liberty. He's played in a 3-4, but he has a good shot of making an NFL roster due to his versatility. He can play LB, but also could actually pass rush with his hand down. Certainly worth a look.

Well, there it is. I would have liked to pick a wr earlier, but couldn't pass up the other players. I hope to hell we can get Bryant Johnson in here for a decent price.

jimmifli
March 9th, 2008, 10:24:55 PM
Love the first 2 picks. Take lineman early.

JayHall93
March 9th, 2008, 10:37:32 PM
Love the first 2 picks. Take lineman early.

FOR SURE! championship teams are built from the lines

SpikedLemonade
March 10th, 2008, 9:40:29 AM
I love that 2nd round pick!

danamal85
March 10th, 2008, 11:08:15 AM
Do you think Pollak will be available in the third? I do. That would allow you to take a better tight end (Bennett) in the 2nd or perhaps a wide out. It also might eliminate the need to draft two tight ends. Is Finley still a third round prospect after running a 4.9 at the combine? Overall, I think that draft would put us in good position going forward.

JayHall93
March 10th, 2008, 12:11:53 PM
I think pollak will go in round 2. i did this mock straight up without moving up or down, so i just took him at the spot we had. he probably could be had 10 picks down, but i don't think he'll be around in the 3rd. I took two TE's in the draft for the same reason we took two RB's in the draft last year, it is a weak position on our team and we need new blood. Finley (Jer) won't move up as much as keller, so i really hope he's there.

FknGvna
March 10th, 2008, 12:23:00 PM
Hate to break it to you but the only guy worth something on that list is Finley. Pollack got bulldozed by Connor. A linebacker. There are only like three, four OLinemen in my book. I like Long, Cherilis, McGlynn, Chris Williams(I think).


Here's my talent evaluation. Following your positions but BPA.


)- Derrick Harvey, DE Florida. This guy would really shore up our DL and take over a starting spot right away. He is just what we need to create havoc from the defensive line. He will also probably be the best available player when we pick. Merling

2)- Mike Pollak, C Arizona. We need to finish our rebuild on the line we started a few years ago when we made Peters our LT. Pollak will be able to start right away and anchor our O line for years to come. Justice

3)- Jermichael Finley, TE Texas. He would emerge as our top receiving TE. He's not as good of a blocker, but what we really need out of the TE position is pass catching ability, and Finley would bring that to us.

4)- Tyvon Branch, CB Connecticut. Very nice size/speed combo, and good talent coming from a lower level of competition. Not the best at press man to man, but could definately do well in zone coverage. Chevis Jackson

5)- Jason Rivers, WR Hawaii. Good size/speed and has enough ability to compete with our WR's to push for 3/4th wideout as a rookie. Has the stats from a pass happy offense, but also has the knack for finding the hole in coverage. Very much worth a look in this area of the draft. ISN"T EVEN SECOND BEST ON THE TEAM Franklin/Hubbard

6)- Joe Jon Finley, TE Oklahoma. Former high school Qb, who i know personally. He is athletic enough to compete, and would be the finishing touch to our upgrade at the position. A little raw, but is a competitor and would push hard our current Te's . Darrell Strong

7)- Jack Ikegwuonu, CB Wisconsin. A massive knee injury prevents him from going much higher in the draft. A real gamble with his health, but if he comes out ok next year, he could compete for a roster spot. A tough pill to put a guy on IR right from the draftboard, but he's worth a shot for sure. I don't think he lasts this long. Justin Tryon

7)- Vince Redd, LB Liberty. He

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JayHall93
March 10th, 2008, 1:10:33 PM
I'll be happy to disagree with you.

I like my mock.

Tejasbillsfan
March 10th, 2008, 11:10:13 PM
yours is better than most i've seen.

JayHall93
March 12th, 2008, 11:51:10 PM
thanks

LotteryPick
March 13th, 2008, 11:54:34 AM
No thank you on this mock.

No CB or WR in the first 3 rounds. Drafting 2 TEs?

Why do you think the Bills have been looking at so many mediocre CBs and S's in free agency lately? They think there is a severe lack of depth in the secondary.

Also, I am not a big fan of DEs in the first round.

JayHall93
March 13th, 2008, 11:56:37 AM
No thank you on this mock.

No CB or WR in the first 3 rounds. Drafting 2 TEs?

Why do you think the Bills have been looking at so many mediocre CBs and S's in free agency lately? They think there is a severe lack of depth in the secondary.

Also, I am not a big fan of DEs in the first round.

kinda notice a trend we have concerning the CB's we draft in the 1st round? WE NEVER RETAIN THEM.

LotteryPick
March 13th, 2008, 12:00:58 PM
So?

We never retain them 4 years down the line when people decide to overpay them.

You don't not draft a guy because 4 years from now he might walk. It's a brand new world in football...people leave teams all the time now.

JayHall93
March 13th, 2008, 12:21:37 PM
i realize that dude. it's more of a personal feeling. just drives me ****in nuts that we never retain our Cb's we draft .

anyway dude, don't get too huffy.

LotteryPick
March 13th, 2008, 12:38:42 PM
I wasn't huffy. I get just as pissed. But on the other hand, I wouldn't have wanted to pony up that kind of cash for Clements.

Buffalo13
March 13th, 2008, 12:43:20 PM
Sorry, this mock is not for me. Rivers and Finley will not do nearly enough to help us score more points which is by far our most glaring need. Our Defense would be improved, yes, but we'd end up losing games 17 to 10 every week.

JayHall93
March 13th, 2008, 12:59:23 PM
Sorry, this mock is not for me. Rivers and Finley will not do nearly enough to help us score more points which is by far our most glaring need. Our Defense would be improved, yes, but we'd end up losing games 17 to 10 every week.

as opposed to loosing 31 to 10.

we have got to solidify our lines to get better.

Wr and Cb are needs we have, but if we can't rush the passer and protect our qb, we'll be 7-9 every year.

JayHall93
March 13th, 2008, 1:00:06 PM
Sorry, this mock is not for me. Rivers and Finley will not do nearly enough to help us score more points which is by far our most glaring need. Our Defense would be improved, yes, but we'd end up losing games 17 to 10 every week.

also, every draft pick you have dosen't produce right away. at some point, after the third round, you draft for depth.

LotteryPick
March 13th, 2008, 1:05:42 PM
as opposed to loosing 31 to 10.

we have got to solidify our lines to get better.

Wr and Cb are needs we have, but if we can't rush the passer and protect our qb, we'll be 7-9 every year.

Our lines have gotten better.

Our OL is almost set. They had been playing amazing football until Peters went down. We need more depth than anything there (w/ the exception of Center, we need a starter).

Our DL is markedly better with Stroud and Johnson and as I said, I believe that our DEs are fine. They just needed more space to work. With added pressure up the middle we will have a whole new DL.

Buffalo13
March 13th, 2008, 1:09:52 PM
I'm not dissagreeing with the fact that games are won in the trenches. But offensivley, we only gave up 26 sacks and still couldn't score. Defensivly, I think we needed to get more pressure up the middle and Stroud will go a long way towards that. Plus, we're geting Poz and Simpson back, plus we got a lot bigger at WLB. Plus, one down year for Schobel and Kelsay doesn't mean we should pour all that money into a DE who will only be playing in situational spots.

I've said it in lots of other threads: we failed to produce an offensive TD in 5 games this year. Defense is not our biggest problem.

I think we should get the best players we can at WR and TE, and then use day 2 to bolster our already solid defense.

LotteryPick
March 13th, 2008, 1:45:45 PM
Solid argument. Very solid.

The Chosen
March 13th, 2008, 1:48:05 PM
I am not a huge fan of this draft. To me there seem to be a lot of hit or miss guys on your list. I understand you didn't involve trade senarios, but I think 11 is too high for Harvey. He was a good pass rusher in college, but I wouldn't put him in the Peppers catagory, therefore I feel he is hit or miss. I think we can find better value with our second pick than Pollack, like a TE or WR. If Pollack was still there in the third, I'd be OK with him there. I don't think Finley will have very much success in the NFL, he should have stayed in school. We can do much better than Branch in the fourth, like Molden from EKU (right Lottery?). I also think we could do better with our 5th and 6th than who you have us taking. I understand at that point it is a crap shoot, but your whole draft seems to be a crap shoot. No offense, just my opinion.

JayHall93
March 13th, 2008, 2:02:28 PM
I am not a huge fan of this draft. To me there seem to be a lot of hit or miss guys on your list. I understand you didn't involve trade senarios, but I think 11 is too high for Harvey. He was a good pass rusher in college, but I wouldn't put him in the Peppers catagory, therefore I feel he is hit or miss. I think we can find better value with our second pick than Pollack, like a TE or WR. If Pollack was still there in the third, I'd be OK with him there. I don't think Finley will have very much success in the NFL, he should have stayed in school. We can do much better than Branch in the fourth, like Molden from EKU (right Lottery?). I also think we could do better with our 5th and 6th than who you have us taking. I understand at that point it is a crap shoot, but your whole draft seems to be a crap shoot. No offense, just my opinion.

None taken.

This is not a popular mock due to the fact that most people probably haven't seen these guys play that much. Also, it dosen't include the usual suspects, DRC, Martellus, Nelson, Schmidt.

I can truly attest that i have studied the game tape on each of these players.

The Chosen
March 13th, 2008, 2:07:22 PM
You are correct, I don't know much about any of these guys after Jermichael Finley, which most likely led to my assesment that they are hit or miss picks. If any of these guys are as good as you say, I hope the Bills are aware of it too.

JayHall93
March 13th, 2008, 2:15:42 PM
hey, once you get past the third round, it's truly hit or miss. most of the guys past the third round have questions about size, speed, level of competion, character, ya just gotta take a chance you'll hit on a couple of them.

LotteryPick
March 13th, 2008, 2:17:39 PM
You are correct, I don't know much about any of these guys after Jermichael Finley, which most likely led to my assesment that they are hit or miss picks. If any of these guys are as good as you say, I hope the Bills are aware of it too.

I've seen most of the guys that fill out the end of the draft, though not this LB from Liberty.

Joe Jon I am not that sure of. I think once we add Finely we don't really need another TE. I also don't think that he winds up being any better than Royal.

Jack is a good pick. He would have been a very solid CB if it wasn't for that knee injury. Sometimes you can never come back from those, but he'd be worth the risk.

Rivers was the 3rd WR on Hawaii and is an ok prospect, but nothing special. There are better guys out there that should be available in the 5th, like Hubbard or maybe Johnson from Kentucky.

I also think Branch is suspect in the 4th. I did a whole article on the CB position that was posted on the front page and it ranked a lot of guys who should be avilable then. I think Wheatley, Molden or even Scandrick would be better values there.