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JMNY83
February 22nd, 2008, 5:55:50 PM
Post anything about COD4 here. I found this post on CharlieOscarDelta.com and I found it interesting.

I originally wrote this in response to a juggernaut complaint on the ps3 forum and ive decided to bring it here as well.
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mexghost11 wrote:
I completely disagree about the Juggernaut and Stopping Power being equal. I have some of the best accuracy in the game and it takes me 4-5 bursts with stopping power on my M16 to take a guy out from medium range. I find it ridiculous because every single one of my bullets from those bursts hits and they don't die. There must be a glitch or something with Juggernaut.


4 to 5 bursts? With stopping power, the m16 kills in 2 shots in a very short time(rediculous). Now when you fight a juggernaut it take you 3 shots. That comes to 168 dmg, which 28 more then you need to kill a juggernaut. Now you said it takes you 4-5 bursts to kill a juggernaut? That would roughly come to 672 dmg? And your telling me that you wouldnt be able to kill a juggernaut with 140 health?

Either your not using stopping power or you are insane. You must also be using a silencer so you are out of range.

Even if you were using a silencer, no stopping power, and you were out of range, you would still do 360, which is far more dmg than you need to kill.

Even with no stopping power, and out range with silencer, etc., it would only take you 2 correctly aimed bursts to kill a juggernaut. which would amt to 180 dmg.

So you are not aiming correctly. Thats it. If you dont steady your shots then you will miss 2 of the 3 bullets. making it seem extremely weak when it in fact is you that is weak.

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Ok but picture this, the guy using juggernaut is shooting you. At the same distance with the same attachment. It is going to take him the same amt of shots to kill you as it will for you to kill him. Regardless of how many shots you think it is taking you to shoot the juggernaut, it is taking him the same amt to kill you.

Ill number crunch for you.

Player A
Health=100(Default)
Weapon=m16 red dot
Perk 2=stopping power

Each bullet from player A's m16 will do 56 dmg.(1 burst shoots 3 bullets)
__________________________________________________ __________

Player B
Health=140
Weapon=m16 red dot
Perk 2=juggernaut

Each bullet from player B's m16 will do 40 dmg.
__________________________________________________ __________

Now here are some situations
This is assuming that both players are in range.

1) Player A(SP) shoots Player B(Jugg) with one burst. All bullets hit. Damage totals at 168. Player B=dead.

2) Player B(Jugg) shoots Player A(SP) with one burst. All bullets hit. Damage totals at 120. Player A=dead.

Now this is assuming both player are out of range.

1) Player A(SP) shoots Player B(Jugg) with one burst. All bullets hit. Damage totals at 126. Player B=1 more shot to kill.

2) Player B(Jugg) shoots Player A(SP) with one burst. All bullets hit. Damage totals at 90. Player A=1 more shot to kill.

So the fact of the matter is. No matter where you are in the game, as long as you are using the same gun, a juggernaut will take just as many shots to kill as the person he is shooting at.

There you go. I have just proven to you that it is not overpowered and they do infact cancel eachother out.

So leave the complaints to the truly overpowered things like the m16 and 3x frags. As i have already discussed those topics in the past.

Oh ya and i cant forget my trusty Stats chart.
Stopping power multiplies dmg by 1.4, jugg multiplies health by 1.4.
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/9766/cod4gunstatszt9.png


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JMNY83
February 22nd, 2008, 9:27:16 PM
Great News! The new feature patch I talked about last week (with new Kill Cams, Host Migration, and other new features) for the Xbox 360 has finished it’s internal testing and development and has officially been sent off to Microsoft for Certification. It’s only a matter of Microsoft putting it through the certification paces and it will be available for download for all Xbox 360 players.

If you forgot, keep reading to re-cap on all the new features this patch brings to players.

As for the Playstation 3 version of this patch, it’s currently finishing up it’s final internal testing (which I’m expecting to go very quickly) and should be heading off to Sony for it’s own certification in the near future, I’ll post that and full details on what that includes when that time comes.

New Kill Cams
We’ve added new Kill Cams for everything. So now those “WTF!” grenades that seemingly come from no where, you can see that a guy threw it over the house, it hit a tree branch, bounced off a rock, into a tiny window, where you happened to be pointing out of, and say…… whoa. Follow behind RPGs and M203’s kill cams, claymores, Airstrikes where you can follow the bomb from the plane until it hits you.

Host Migration:

Now you won’t have to be dropped back by yourself when a host leaves. Instead, everyone will stay together, a new host will be assigned, and the game will auto-start back up. Keeping everyone together, no more re-inviting, re-joining games because some host leaves. This has been a tall order and something that we’ve put a lot of work into which has allowed us to really optimize online play all around not just specifically with Host migration.

Improved Sniper / ACOG Accuracy:

Sniper and ACOG scopes have been tweaked and are really improved. I use to not snipe at all (mainly because I’m a horrible sniper), but now it’s so much more fluid and natural, while still having the same difficulty to use, it has no more “WTF I know I hit that guy!” moments.

Upgraded Spectator Cam:

Now when you’re in spectator mode you can follow them in 3rd person, switch to their first person view, or rotate the camera in a full 360 degrees around whoever you’re watching.

Quick Mute Option

Users will now be able to quick mute players on the fly by pulling up the scoreboard in-game or via the lobby by simply going to their name and hitting the mute assigned button. As quickly as calling in and designating an airstike. So no longer getting killed while trying to make your way through the Xbox blades for the mute option so you can shut up the guy who always seems to find it funny to sing into his mic or cover up for his lack of skill by telling you how to play Domination his way.
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JMNY83
February 22nd, 2008, 9:27:44 PM
New Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare DLC Maps On The Way

I’ve got some big news I know that everyone has been waiting on official confirmation of and I’m excited to let you guys know that we’re currently working on some official new maps for Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare that are going to be available as DLC in the future. Last week I let you know that we were on the look out for the best community-made maps, but this week I can let the news out that we’re working on official IW-made maps of our own as well behind the scenes.

These new maps will be adding even more variety to the online multiplayer of Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare and I’m excited to gradually share more details regarding the new maps as we progress. So keep your eyes tuned to the blog as I’m going to be sharing sneak peek details and insights on what you can expect as we get further and further along with the DLC.

As always, thanks to everyone for your feedback and support. In the spirit of the new DLC announcement, what do you hope to see? Leave a comment and let me know what you’d like to see more of in Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare? What kind of maps are you hoping to see?
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MacRazor
February 25th, 2008, 10:35:47 PM
Why are you playing COD on a console???

My clan-mate has a custom map server with close to 20 custom maps on it!

Man I cant figure these console-jockeys out!

No offense bro.

Darksyde
February 25th, 2008, 10:55:18 PM
Always been a console guy, from Sega to PS3. When I entered the PC world with BF2 and BF2142 and now COD4.....FPS's are meant to be played with a mouse and a keyboard.

dasaybz
February 26th, 2008, 10:11:48 AM
Why are you playing COD on a console???

My clan-mate has a custom map server with close to 20 custom maps on it!

Man I cant figure these console-jockeys out!

No offense bro.

42 inch HD plasma TV with surround sound.

Any other dumb questions?

Downinfloflo
February 26th, 2008, 10:46:37 AM
42 inch HD plasma TV with surround sound.

Any other dumb questions?

PWNED..........

JMNY83
February 26th, 2008, 3:56:06 PM
42 inch HD plasma TV with surround sound.

Any other dumb questions?

Hahaha, I'll one up you. 61" DLP HDTV w/ Surround sound. I do like PC gaming but I got sick of upgrading.

Darksyde
February 26th, 2008, 5:37:01 PM
42 inch HD plasma TV with surround sound.

Any other dumb questions?

PWNED..........

Hahaha, I'll one up you. 61" DLP HDTV w/ Surround sound. I do like PC gaming but I got sick of upgrading.

First off as for a dumb question it wasnt. as for being Pwned he wasnt. If any of you realized that any decent video card these days have DVI or HDMI inputs on them which means you can hook them to any of the flat screens out today no matter the size. So thats a moot point. The surround sound is a retarded comment as well. If your a sniper playing a FPS having the sounds right at your ears is a much better way of playing the game. To each his/her own but there is no reason for slamming in either direction.

dasaybz
February 26th, 2008, 6:45:54 PM
Ya, it's so much fun sitting on your couch with a keyboard in your lap...

Darksyde
February 26th, 2008, 7:09:21 PM
Consoles are fun no doubt, but IMO FPS's are much better on a 19-22" WS LCD with headphones. Just my opinion. Either way stick with your "controller" you couldnt hang on the PC version anyhow. Too many buttons for you to remember.

JMNY83
February 26th, 2008, 8:03:33 PM
I can't argue in this fight because to me FPS's are better on PC. I'm just lazy and take the easy way with a console.

MacRazor
February 26th, 2008, 8:08:46 PM
Ya, it's so much fun sitting on your couch with a keyboard in your lap...


Ya know, i was only busting some chops a bit but nooooooo some of ya's gotta get all uptight an' bitchy...it's not my fault you cant upgrade your rigs without someone holding your hands.

83 mentioned the new maps coming out and i commented that the PC version maps are basically a dime a dozen so wheres the harm in that?

So have fun with your bad-ass hi-def an' surround sound on your li'l boxes, i'll be fine without having to trip over your carcas's on my server!

Acoustic-Fury
February 27th, 2008, 8:17:24 AM
Good stuff JMNY! I'm looking forward to those maps and the squad fixes.


heh...I went from console to PC gaming and now back to console.

PC Games I played till my fingers bled: Tribes 2, Battlefield Vietnam, BF2, BF2142, WoW...and some other FPS and RPGs that don't come to mind at the moment.

I switched to a console just for the fact that I couldn't keep up with the upgrades (and the console was bought for half price). I upgraded my rig in 2006 (spent about $1400.00) right before the dual core came out...when that dual came out...I couldn't play any of the new games for shit.

...and for me it's always been about the group you run with regardless of the system anyway.

I plan on upgrading my rig to some hottness in the next 6 months...but the Rangers I've been gaming with (JMNY, emo, treydawg, dasaybz, Scary Good) have been seriously a lot of laughs.

The PC upgrade for me will be mostly music related and gaming second...but I'm looking to have a pretty high end system.

I'll probably keep playing consoles as long as those guys do.

dasaybz
February 27th, 2008, 8:56:58 AM
Consoles are fun no doubt, but IMO FPS's are much better on a 19-22" WS LCD with headphones. Just my opinion. Either way stick with your "controller" you couldnt hang on the PC version anyhow. Too many buttons for you to remember.

Don't be mad because you still live with mom and dad and they won't let you buy a 360 and put it on their big TV.

Have fun hanging out in your stinky messy bedroom with Marshawn Lynch posters hanging up in it playing with your computer.

:rockon:

dasaybz
February 27th, 2008, 9:00:18 AM
You guys gotta stop taking me so seriously.

Just so you know, I'm a network analyst and I've been around computers my whole life. I've played PC games until my eyes popped out of my head ... literally.

Oblivion, BF2, Doom, Enemy Territory, Age of Empires, Tribes, the list goes on and on.

In my opinion, sitting back on my couch with a beer in my hand and pressing one button on my remote and having everything start up is just great. I'm on a computer all day long and I really don't feel like sitting in front of one when I get home. You PC guys are pretty serious about gaming, that's why I'm busting your balls so much.

dasaybz
February 27th, 2008, 9:04:40 AM
Darksyde, you know I'm just bustin your balls brotha!!!!!

Acoustic-Fury
February 27th, 2008, 9:08:29 AM
Speaking of CoD4 last night dasaybz...I think I played like 3 games in the 3 hours I was on.


That was some ridiculousness.


We'll probably all be on again after the Sabres game tonight.

Darksyde
February 27th, 2008, 9:08:34 AM
Don't be mad because you still live with mom and dad and they won't let you buy a 360 and put it on their big TV.

Have fun hanging out in your stinky messy bedroom with Marshawn Lynch posters hanging up in it playing with your computer.

:rockon:

Darksyde, you know I'm just bustin your balls brotha!!!!!

Oh I fully realize that, because the flaws in your statement are monumental.

dasaybz
February 27th, 2008, 9:10:32 AM
Speaking of CoD4 last night dasaybz...I think I played like 3 games in the 3 hours I was on.


That was some ridiculousness.


We'll probably all be on again after the Sabres game tonight.

Ya, what was up with that?

Sometimes when there's that many people in a party it's a bitch trying to get going.

It's still plenty of fun though.

Downinfloflo
February 27th, 2008, 11:09:23 AM
Consoles are fun no doubt, but IMO FPS's are much better on a 19-22" WS LCD with headphones. Just my opinion. Either way stick with your "controller" you couldnt hang on the PC version anyhow. Too many buttons for you to remember.

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Darksyde
February 27th, 2008, 11:41:04 AM
Mac and I are part of Team BEER (www.teamBEER.co.nr). I dont think our clan has lept into the ladder yet. May be a future consideration though.

Downinfloflo
February 27th, 2008, 11:51:58 AM
Mac and I are part of Team BEER (www.teamBEER.co.nr). I dont think our clan has lept into the ladder yet. May be a future consideration though.

Hit up the server sometime..

The community support is were PC crushes consoles..(i think)

I just don't have time to be as active as i would like.

If your clan is lookin to get into some competative game play.

These guy's will help ya out.

EvilWays+DFL+

MacRazor
February 27th, 2008, 5:14:04 PM
Team BEER competative? Now that's a stretch! It's a great clan to be sure but we definately have the cohesion of a soup sammich most nites!(-:

phishhead220
March 21st, 2008, 5:43:18 PM
I finally got the game for 360 today. Been playing the single player so far and its pretty awesome. Once I get a little better I'll have to move on to XBOX Live

Lateralus
April 24th, 2008, 7:06:46 PM
Good old fashion capture the flag would be awesome on COD4. The only things I play on MP now are Domination and Team Deathmatch, usually on ground war.

comericatigers
April 24th, 2008, 9:58:12 PM
Downloading the new maps now.