View Full Version : Why Do Men Solicit Prostitutes??
chickie
February 9th, 2008, 10:31:38 PM
Is there any logical reason as to why a man would solicit a prostitute? Is it for fantsay? Pleasure? Addiction? What....
pabstman
February 9th, 2008, 10:40:12 PM
Sex? Maybe a BJ?
kybillsfan
February 9th, 2008, 10:40:57 PM
Is there any logical reason as to why a man would solicit a prostitute? Is it for fantsay? Pleasure? Addiction? What....
It could be all of the above and some. SHould it be legal?
chickie
February 9th, 2008, 10:43:09 PM
It could be all of the above and some. SHould it be legal?
No is shouldn't be legal. And why on earth would anyone "pay" for sex? Are you looking for something in particular and you know it is a "sure" thing?
uppy
February 9th, 2008, 10:48:44 PM
Welcome Back Chick..!!!
And to answer the question...IMHO,only libbies Solicit Prostitutes
real men don't need to
coryjd
February 9th, 2008, 10:49:52 PM
No is shouldn't be legal. And why on earth would anyone "pay" for sex? Are you looking for something in particular and you know it is a "sure" thing?
Why should a government control who bangs who, and for how much???? If you're a poor soul who has to pay for sex, then you should suffer the consequences on your own.
Gibby
February 9th, 2008, 11:08:01 PM
simple, when you want to get your freak on and your wife is bleedin you must **** it. Hire a ho.
Gibby
February 9th, 2008, 11:09:09 PM
Is there any logical reason as to why a man would solicit a prostitute? Is it for fantsay? Pleasure? Addiction? What....
I am not sure but I think Hugh Grant knows something about this.
chickie
February 9th, 2008, 11:09:48 PM
simple, when you want to get your freak on and your wife is bleedin you must **** it. Hire a ho.
you go far in life.
Gibby
February 9th, 2008, 11:12:03 PM
you go far in life.
come on gopchick have a sense of humor. Sorry to offend, it was meant to be light hearted. Actually I think the reason is lonliness and well release. I don't think I need to elaborate.
chickie
February 9th, 2008, 11:15:25 PM
come on gopchick have a sense of humor. Sorry to offend, it was meant to be light hearted. Actually I think the reason is lonliness and well release. I don't think I need to elaborate.
Ok - Gibby fair enough I will try and have humor with this topic.
But to pay for it....to solicit.....I mean there has to be some logic here? Some reason? Why not just go to a bar and pick a chick up isn't that easier and cheaper?
LiterateStylish
February 9th, 2008, 11:23:33 PM
No is shouldn't be legal. And why on earth would anyone "pay" for sex? Are you looking for something in particular and you know it is a "sure" thing?
I believe it is mainly for convenience. You get to have sex, when you want it, without nagging, or begging or anything of that sort. Therefore, convenience is my vote.
Gibby
February 9th, 2008, 11:24:27 PM
Ok - Gibby fair enough I will try and have humor with this topic.
But to pay for it....to solicit.....I mean there has to be some logic here? Some reason? Why not just go to a bar and pick a chick up isn't that easier and cheaper?
desperation, I am guessing maybe someone feels unsure about themselves and so if someone can be paid for it its easier than attempting to develop emotional bonds and having a relationship. Sure one can have a one night stand after a night in a bar, but one does need to have confidence to pull this off and some do not have it so they would turn to a hooker. Others, well I guess its just the illegality of it that gives it a thrill. Others I guess desire to have someone with experience.
billsfan69
February 9th, 2008, 11:26:28 PM
Is there any logical reason as to why a man would solicit a prostitute? Is it for fantsay? Pleasure? Addiction? What....
Umm, For sex?Just kidding. Seriously it is either men who are desperate or men who have an addiction.
chickie
February 9th, 2008, 11:28:44 PM
Umm, For sex?Just kidding. Seriously it is either men who are desperate or men who have an addiction.
ahhhh.....addiction?? An addiction to sex?
JLB
February 9th, 2008, 11:30:21 PM
maybe the guy is ugly and can't get it any other way. :dunno:
chickie
February 9th, 2008, 11:32:42 PM
maybe the guy is ugly and can't get it any other way. :dunno:
LMAO!!
JLB
February 9th, 2008, 11:33:53 PM
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chickie
February 9th, 2008, 11:36:24 PM
So if you caught the person you are in a relatioship with soliciting a prostitute what would you do?
nehemiah
February 9th, 2008, 11:36:47 PM
1) a woman on her period still must get some nookie
2) men pay for pussy because they want to
35Pete
February 9th, 2008, 11:37:33 PM
No is shouldn't be legal. And why on earth would anyone "pay" for sex? Are you looking for something in particular and you know it is a "sure" thing?
I personally wouldn't use one. But it's not up to me to decide what two consenting people want to do. I think it ought to be legal. There is no reason for it not to be. None. Nada.
JLB
February 9th, 2008, 11:40:20 PM
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chickie
February 9th, 2008, 11:40:29 PM
I personally wouldn't use one. But it's not up to me to decide what two consenting people want to do. I think it ought to be legal. There is no reason for it not to be. None. Nada.
I am not asking whether it is legal or not - that is not the issue. I am asking WHY someone would do this.
Fact it is illegal. So the legality of it is neither here nor there.
chickie
February 9th, 2008, 11:41:37 PM
1) a woman on her period still must get some nookie
2) men pay for pussy because they want to
1) what if she was not on her period?
2) I suppose low life pay'S for it
LiterateStylish
February 9th, 2008, 11:46:14 PM
1) what if she was not on her period?
2) I suppose low life pay'S for it
I answered your question. It is about convenience. You don't have to take out the girls trash, or clean up the house, or make her happy, or buy her jewelry or beg her for sex, or listen to her nag. You go, you do your thing, and you leave. The way a lot of guys wish their married lives could be.
I'm not sure what a "low life" really is. I personally wouldn't pay for it, but I do watch a show called Cathouse on HBO, and there are some very rich men who go to brothels, to pay for sex.
JLB
February 9th, 2008, 11:46:41 PM
So if you caught the person you are in a relatioship with soliciting a prostitute what would you do?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNLcI8NYDhc
kick the dipshit to the curb and
get right back to where you started from.
click that link 1975 miss maxine nightingale!!!
35Pete
February 9th, 2008, 11:47:11 PM
I am not asking whether it is legal or not - that is not the issue. I am asking WHY someone would do this.
Fact it is illegal. So the legality of it is neither here nor there.
Don't know why chick. I really don't. I don't have the mindset so I'd only be guessing.
Losers maybe?
Yankeez
February 9th, 2008, 11:48:36 PM
OK - the question poses many questions - first of all I am a woman and I am assuming the question is coming from a woman. I think it IS an addiction - not unlike drugs or
booze. I do not think it means that the man does not love the partner he is with - I believe he DOES - from what I have read men really love their partner/wives and when they cheat it is usually with someone less attractive than their wives. I think it is sometimes a boredom and I think the internet is going to be the DEATH of us all - that alone is VERY addictive - I think it is like when TV took over radio - I know everyone is going to say NOT THE SAME. It also depends if the man is actually doing something
or if he is just "fooling" around by e/m. It sucks no matter what.
BASICALLY - WE CANNOT understand WHAT other people think because WE are thinking from OUR own minds which we all think is normal from our own brains nor anyone else.
WE try to think what other people are doing by what we would do - cannot do THAT.
In other words people - WHO THE HELL KNOWS!
Give me your thoughts out there.
35Pete
February 9th, 2008, 11:49:08 PM
I am not asking whether it is legal or not - that is not the issue. I am asking WHY someone would do this.
Fact it is illegal. So the legality of it is neither here nor there.
It is an issue now. You made a statement that it should be illegal. I'm asking why.
Religious beliefs? Your personal moral values? Personal distaste?
Green Lantern
February 9th, 2008, 11:49:18 PM
Sometimes you just need the honesty of a whore.
chickie
February 9th, 2008, 11:50:00 PM
I answered your question. It is about convenience. You don't have to take out the girls trash, or clean up the house, or make her happy, or buy her jewelry or beg her for sex, or listen to her nag. You go, you do your thing, and you leave. The way a lot of guys wish their married lives could be.
I'm not sure what a "low life" really is. I personally wouldn't pay for it, but I do watch a show called Cathouse on HBO, and there are some very rich men who go to brothels, to pay for sex.
Well I don't think "convenience" is the reason. And I so love how you make woman out to be "nags"....men "nag" about just as much. But when you are in a realtionship and you solicit a whore it is more than "convenience"....
To me it is more like an illness.....
35Pete
February 9th, 2008, 11:52:51 PM
Well I don't think "convenience" is the reason. And I so love how you make woman out to be "nags"....men "nag" about just as much. But when you are in a realtionship and you solicit a whore it is more than "convenience"....
To me it is more like an illness.....
Sex doesn't always have to be in a relationship.
Hell, some of the best sex I've ever had was when I could close the front door behind her at the end of the night.
What's wrong with **** buddies?
chickie
February 9th, 2008, 11:52:54 PM
It is an issue now. You made a statement that it should be illegal. I'm asking why.
Religious beliefs? Your personal moral values? Personal distaste?
Fair enough I did.
I guess all of the above. To have to solicit a prostitute and pay another for sex is just digusting.......you have to pay for sex......
chickie
February 9th, 2008, 11:54:54 PM
Sex doesn't always have to be in a relationship.
Hell, some of the best sex I've ever had was when I could close the front door behind her at the end of the night.
What's wrong with **** buddies?
Now that is a totally different topic.
**** buddies and soliciting a whore are 2 entirly different things.... Don't you think?
35Pete
February 9th, 2008, 11:55:23 PM
Fair enough I did.
I guess all of the above. To have to solicit a prostitute and pay another for sex is just digusting.......you have to pay for sex......
But for some they don't seem to think that way. What you or I think matters not. There value system is different than ours. Is yours better?
Remember. Let she without sin be the first to cast a stone.
We don't have a right IMO to tell people what they can and cannot do among themselves.
LiterateStylish
February 9th, 2008, 11:55:45 PM
Well I don't think "convenience" is the reason. And I so love how you make woman out to be "nags"....men "nag" about just as much. But when you are in a realtionship and you solicit a whore it is more than "convenience"....
To me it is more like an illness.....
My post was meant to go both ways - towards woman and towards men.
And I actually used that point, because it has been used in research and in surveys and is almost always near the top of the list as the main reason why people use prostitutes.
Illness? Well, I think you are just being foolish.
chickie
February 9th, 2008, 11:56:05 PM
OK - the question poses many questions - first of all I am a woman and I am assuming the question is coming from a woman. I think it IS an addiction - not unlike drugs or
booze. I do not think it means that the man does not love the partner he is with - I believe he DOES - from what I have read men really love their partner/wives and when they cheat it is usually with someone less attractive than their wives. I think it is sometimes a boredom and I think the internet is going to be the DEATH of us all - that alone is VERY addictive - I think it is like when TV took over radio - I know everyone is going to say NOT THE SAME. It also depends if the man is actually doing something
or if he is just "fooling" around by e/m. It sucks no matter what.
BASICALLY - WE CANNOT understand WHAT other people think because WE are thinking from OUR own minds which we all think is normal from our own brains nor anyone else.
WE try to think what other people are doing by what we would do - cannot do THAT.
In other words people - WHO THE HELL KNOWS!
Give me your thoughts out there.
I believe it is an addiction - an illness - but if they know they have this "problem" then why do they get in realtionships? Why don't they just stay single so they don't ruin peoples lives?
chickie
February 9th, 2008, 11:57:04 PM
My post was meant to go both ways - towards woman and towards men.
And I actually used that point, because it has been used in research and in surveys and is almost always near the top of the list as the main reason why people use prostitutes.
Illness? Well, I think you are just being foolish.
It could very well be an illness - if it can be an addiction
LiterateStylish
February 9th, 2008, 11:58:50 PM
It could very well be an illness - if it can be an addiction
I believe there is a certain percentage of common prostitutes customers, who do have a mental illness but I do not believe that it is the defining characteristic. The world has seen an increase in prostitute usage in the past 20 or so years and it is not because people have become increasingly mentally ill. People have however, become more isolated, and needed everything conveniently. Wham, bam, thankyou maam.
Green Lantern
February 9th, 2008, 11:59:01 PM
It could very well be an illness - if it can be an addiction
Oldest disease in the world.
35Pete
February 9th, 2008, 11:59:55 PM
It could very well be an illness - if it can be an addiction
Most addictions are not addictions. They are behavioral issues.
Alcoholism for example. The Europeans in general treat most cases as NOT a disease. Only the real hard-core, truly physically addicted get that label. AA treats it like a disease and their success rate is like 5% or so. It's a behavoiral issue more than anything.
Addictions? Heroin, cocaine, speed.
But I wouldn't lump slutting with a $3 Ho' an "addiction".
Maybe it's a little simpler than that. Maybe some guys nads are aching and he's looking for a little muffin that night. Doesn't want to chance a dry night at the meatmarket bar so he calls a Ho'.
gilchristfan
February 10th, 2008, 12:00:00 AM
Does this include lap dances?
JLB
February 10th, 2008, 12:00:22 AM
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the year was 1975 the singer was Maxine Nightingale
LiterateStylish
February 10th, 2008, 12:00:24 AM
From a BBC news report:
However there are changes in sexual attitudes which could have contributed to an increase, says Dr Perman-Kerr.
"Men and women are saying they want the sex life they want and they're not prepared to put up with anything less.
"In my work I see that sex is one of the major issues within marriage and people are more prepared to talk about it, and I don't see an enormous difference between men and women complaining about it, but men have an easier outlet.
"Sex without commitment is another feature of sex with a prostitute. You can be who you want with who you want and very often people will not explore these things with a partner, even if it's something as innocuous as dressing up in women's clothes."
Notice: not mental illness.
GilPerreault
February 10th, 2008, 12:01:18 AM
I don't have the mindset so I'd only be guessing.
Losers maybe?
I personally wouldn't use one.
Me thinks you deny too much :)
chickie
February 10th, 2008, 12:02:55 AM
From a BBC news report:
Notice: not mental illness.
OK - then why do these men get into relationships?
Why don't they just stay SINGLE?
JLB
February 10th, 2008, 12:03:11 AM
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chickie
February 10th, 2008, 12:04:59 AM
Most addictions are not addictions. They are behavioral issues.
Alcoholism for example. The Europeans in general treat most cases as NOT a disease. Only the real hard-core, truly physically addicted get that label. AA treats it like a disease and their success rate is like 5% or so. It's a behavoiral issue more than anything.
Addictions? Heroin, cocaine, speed.
But I wouldn't lump slutting with a $3 Ho' an "addiction".
Maybe it's a little simpler than that. Maybe some guys nads are aching and he's looking for a little muffin that night. Doesn't want to chance a dry night at the meatmarket bar so he calls a Ho'.
Fair enough....I guess a normal person will never understand.
But to take the risks and what is at stake in life....I would just think one would think hey this is wrong. Their LIFE would be more important that a whore.
35Pete
February 10th, 2008, 12:05:20 AM
Me thinks you deny too much :)
Once I was tempted to. I'd packed on tons of weight from steroid therapy and had been a while. I thought about it. Then came to my senses, went to The Briney Pub, found a 30's something fattie and nailed her instead.
Yeah. Nothing to be proud of but at least nothing to be ashamed of either.
Fat Bottomed Girls Make The Rockin' World Go Round'.
Green Lantern
February 10th, 2008, 12:05:28 AM
OK - then why do these men get into relationships?
Why don't they just stay SINGLE?
Sex and relationships are two different things.
chickie
February 10th, 2008, 12:07:08 AM
Sex and relationships are two different things.
I understand that. But if you get involved in a relationship than this is TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR.....
LiterateStylish
February 10th, 2008, 12:07:26 AM
OK - then why do these men get into relationships?
Why don't they just stay SINGLE?
The psychological affects of being in a relationship with someone who LOVES you and being in one that is purely sexual are far different.
Most people have the psychological need to have a spouse.
35Pete
February 10th, 2008, 12:07:43 AM
OK - then why do these men get into relationships?
Why don't they just stay SINGLE?
Perhaps true love, insecurity, or the need to procreate I guess.
LiterateStylish
February 10th, 2008, 12:08:25 AM
I understand that. But if you get involved in a relationship than this is TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR.....
This is fairly new thinking. Remember, throughout the years woman have been silenced. They were not allowed to talk this way, or act that way, or behave a certain way.
35Pete
February 10th, 2008, 12:08:53 AM
I understand that. But if you get involved in a relationship than this is TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR.....
Not if she' willing to pay for half the whore's fee. :D
chickie
February 10th, 2008, 12:10:24 AM
Not if she' willing to pay for half the whore's fee. :D
LOL!!! You are a horrible person Pete!
I see you have gone loco out here with your "new" political view! :) wink wink!
Green Lantern
February 10th, 2008, 12:11:16 AM
I understand that. But if you get involved in a relationship than this is TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR.....
Your question was 'logical' reasons. You have been given logical reasons, your mind is just rebelling against them. If you want us to make you agree, that is unlikely. If you want to understand, you need to lay your judgemental side down and see things the way others see them. I have read a number of posts here that offer more than reasonable explanations but your responses are colored with personal beliefs toward them.
Logical reasons and reasons that you can understand and agree with are two different things.
GilPerreault
February 10th, 2008, 12:11:49 AM
Once I was tempted to. I'd packed on tons of weight from steroid therapy and had been a while. I thought about it. Then came to my senses, went to The Briney Pub, found a 30's something fattie and nailed her instead.
Yeah. Nothing to be proud of but at least nothing to be ashamed of either.
Fat Bottomed Girls Make The Rockin' World Go Round'.
I was in a bar on Chippewa and this chick came up to me and grabbed my crotch. I was like, hey, how ya doing? She asked me if I had a car. I didn't know if she was hitting on me or what. I talked to her for a bit and tried to figure out what her deal was. She was pretty hot and kept on trying to get me to leave. i said, hold on, I just got here. I started to think she was a hooker but wasn't sure. She finally said come on, let's go only $20 for a BJ. I said, sorry I don't pay for it. She said you buy women drinks and take them out to dinner, believe me you pay for it. :)
chickie
February 10th, 2008, 12:19:06 AM
Your question was 'logical' reasons. You have been given logical reasons, your mind is just rebelling against them. If you want us to make you agree, that is unlikely. If you want to understand, you need to lay your judgemental side down and see things the way others see them. I have read a number of posts here that offer more than reasonable explanations but your responses are colored with personal beliefs toward them.
Logical reasons and reasons that you can understand and agree with are two different things.
Fair enough and you are right...I let myself get personal.
billsfan69
February 10th, 2008, 12:21:30 AM
ahhhh.....addiction?? An addiction to sex?
Why not an addiction to sex? There are addictions to alcohol, drugs, gambling, etc. Some people just can't do things in moderation.
Green Lantern
February 10th, 2008, 12:22:02 AM
Fair enough and you are right...I let myself get personal.
Try and have a good night. I'm going to sleep...alone.
Meathead
February 10th, 2008, 12:57:23 AM
I mean there has to be some logic here? Some reason? Why not just go to a bar and pick a chick up isn't that easier and cheaper?
man this one is sooo easy
some disclaimers to start
- i have no moral problem with prostitution. i dont think god, jesus, or the spaghetti monster in the sky gives a damn
- ive paid for sex once, famous chicken ranch, had fun, but paying for it sort of ruined it, will never do it again
- i like women, as long as they are nice, and know a great many really cool women, but scant few of those ive had sex with because i dont like to risk friendships for sex cuz it usually ruins it. or of course they are already married which is usually the case and i dont screw around with committed women
- most women are far too mean and/or whack to mess around with. most guys just go ahead anyway but i dont screw women i dont at least like as a person
- guys on average are just as bad as women, but in a different way. but since i dont date/screw men these comments do not talk about them
ok now for the answer
- because the AVERAGE woman is a huge pain in the ass, especially when it comes to sex. first of all the better looking they are the bigger the bitch they are, on average. and even if they say they are ok with just being friends 95% of the time once you have sex they get all weird and start getting major clingy and weird. the less you want that the more they do it
- picking up a woman in a bar is very dangerous in just about any way you can imagine. most of them are super psychos, even more than the average woman, and you risk finding a rabbit boiling on your stove in week. or they are stanky. or they are violent. or they are ***ked up beyond description. or they are trying to make some 475 lbs of pure unbalanced muscle jealous. thats not even counting having to deal with fifty bitches rejecting you for no good reason and ridiculing you while doing it. that whole scene sux beyond description. unless youre an empty shell of a player yourself then maybe you like it but for anybody with any depth or sensitivity whatsoever its hell on earth
- so to get laid you have to go on dates. to start with you have to be aggressive and put your neck out all the time usually getting rejected. then if you get a date you have to pay and pay and pay on just the chance you might get sex. of course if you do then its USUALLY all the head games and the clinging and the crying and all the bullshit the average whacked out female gives you all over again. oh it looks fine at first but after the first few dates that end up in the sack the shit starts to surface. by that time youve cuddled and said some stuff and that only makes it worse. once you actually tell a woman you like her they usually slowly start trying to control every freaking aspect of your life. and oh they are tricky you wont know it until its too late and then you have to gnaw your own arm off to get away
- the average woman uses sex as a control device. she gives it to you for a while but once she gets you hooked she starts using it for leverage. this dynamic gets worse and worse and eventually you feel like you have to change your entire being just to get laid. after a while it often just becomes not even worth it
conclusion:
most of the time its absolutely simple convenience. im sure many times the guy is so fugly he struggles to get anything and turns to a ho out of desperation. yes some are due to addiction or some other psychological problems but to think thats usually the reason is a cop out as a female. a great deal of the problem lies with yall. sorry but its just a fact
advice:
men: if you are a man that has a woman that likes sex, gives you sex without terms, is good at sex, and is nice most of the time, do yourself a favor and be really nice to her because they are as rare as a buffalo bills superbowl. and they never show up four years in a row
women: be nice and give up the damn control freak issues
LiterateStylish
February 10th, 2008, 1:17:35 AM
man this one is sooo easy
some disclaimers to start
- i have no moral problem with prostitution. i dont think god, jesus, or the spaghetti monster in the sky gives a damn
- ive paid for sex once, famous chicken ranch, had fun, but paying for it sort of ruined it, will never do it again
- i like women, as long as they are nice, and know a great many really cool women, but scant few of those ive had sex with because i dont like to risk friendships for sex cuz it usually ruins it. or of course they are already married which is usually the case and i dont screw around with committed women
- most women are far too mean and/or whack to mess around with. most guys just go ahead anyway but i dont screw women i dont at least like as a person
- guys on average are just as bad as women, but in a different way. but since i dont date/screw men these comments do not talk about them
ok now for the answer
- because the AVERAGE woman is a huge pain in the ass, especially when it comes to sex. first of all the better looking they are the bigger the bitch they are, on average. and even if they say they are ok with just being friends 95% of the time once you have sex they get all weird and start getting major clingy and weird. the less you want that the more they do it
- picking up a woman in a bar is very dangerous in just about any way you can imagine. most of them are super psychos, even more than the average woman, and you risk finding a rabbit boiling on your stove in week. or they are stanky. or they are violent. or they are ***ked up beyond description. or they are trying to make some 475 lbs of pure unbalanced muscle jealous. thats not even counting having to deal with fifty bitches rejecting you for no good reason and ridiculing you while doing it. that whole scene sux beyond description. unless youre an empty shell of a player yourself then maybe you like it but for anybody with any depth or sensitivity whatsoever its hell on earth
- so to get laid you have to go on dates. to start with you have to be aggressive and put your neck out all the time usually getting rejected. then if you get a date you have to pay and pay and pay on just the chance you might get sex. of course if you do then its USUALLY all the head games and the clinging and the crying and all the bullshit the average whacked out female gives you all over again. oh it looks fine at first but after the first few dates that end up in the sack the shit starts to surface. by that time youve cuddled and said some stuff and that only makes it worse. once you actually tell a woman you like her they usually slowly start trying to control every freaking aspect of your life. and oh they are tricky you wont know it until its too late and then you have to gnaw your own arm off to get away
- the average woman uses sex as a control device. she gives it to you for a while but once she gets you hooked she starts using it for leverage. this dynamic gets worse and worse and eventually you feel like you have to change your entire being just to get laid. after a while it often just becomes not even worth it
conclusion:
most of the time its absolutely simple convenience. im sure many times the guy is so fugly he struggles to get anything and turns to a ho out of desperation. yes some are due to addiction or some other psychological problems but to think thats usually the reason is a cop out as a female. a great deal of the problem lies with yall. sorry but its just a fact
advice:
men: if you are a man that has a woman that likes sex, gives you sex without terms, is good at sex, and is nice most of the time, do yourself a favor and be really nice to her because they are as rare as a buffalo bills superbowl. and they never show up four years in a row
women: be nice and give up the damn control freak issues
Yup. I summed this up, nice and clear for her in my post on the first page. She didn't wish to believe me.
Meathead
February 10th, 2008, 1:22:01 AM
really i thot i read all the posts maybe i missed it
seriously if youre a woman and your man sees a whore i would say its 80% likely your fault for being a pain in the ass for a loong time. and in that case the only way i can fault him is he should have dumped your ass before doing it
if not then he really is a scum and you should dump him
ICRockets
February 10th, 2008, 1:22:50 AM
Well I don't think "convenience" is the reason. And I so love how you make woman out to be "nags"....men "nag" about just as much. But when you are in a realtionship and you solicit a whore it is more than "convenience"....
To me it is more like an illness.....
You keep talking about this relationship thing, but it wasn't set up clearly in your original question. I think the question you asked and the question you want answered are two very different things.
The question you asked was simply, why do men solicit prostitutes? A stupid question deserves a stupid answer: sex. It's just that simple.
However, the question you MEANT to ask is one that must be housed in a hypothetical. I will set up that hypothetical, then answer the question.
A man is in a relationship. Despite this, he solicits a prostitute- for sex, obviously. The question is: WHY does this man pay for sex when he's already in a relationship and, thus, cheat on his girlfriend or wife?
First of all, it's important to set up the hypothetical, because otherwise you're asking "why do men in relationships solicit prostitutes?" which is a gross and unfair generalization that implies a vast majority of men participate in such a situation. Since you got mad at Literate for saying women are universally "*******", I can only assume you don't want to portray men universally as "cheaters", lest you be called a hypocrite.
Now, we have a question that I will write some shit about.
To start with, this hypothetical man is an ass hole. For this reason, I would avoid any sort of rationalization of his behavior that connects the words "addiction" and "illness". If we are to consider what he did to be the result of an illness, he is no longer complicit in his own actions, but has simply fallen victim to his biological impulses.
Beyond that, I cannot say it is particularly "convenient" to do gardening for a stranger across town when your own lawn needs to be mowed, so that is disqualified in this particular case.
Really, at this point we could go on and on and hypothesize about...maybe he's insecure....maybe he's afraid of commitment...maybe he was drunk....but at the end of the day, these are all just rationalizations of an inexcusable behavior.
When we get down to it, the WHY doesn't really matter. There are 2 things that matter here, and only one is uncertain. The first is what he did. The second is what you do next. Everything else is irrelevant.
TRIPLE P
February 10th, 2008, 1:28:48 AM
Because if you aren't good at getting laid you can pay essentially the same amount to get ass and not have to talk to them ever again.
Its probably not as fullfilling, and I imagine it would be a source of self-disappointment down the road.
You should be able to sell poon tang, and you should be able to buy it.
Meathead
February 10th, 2008, 1:30:12 AM
oh i see yeah i gave a lot more detail
when you think about it twenty/thirty years ago men had the control. and typically they exploited it to the point things got dysfunctional, they overworked overdrank and messed around like no tommorrow. and everything got all messed up
now its gone the other way. women have the control. they are taught to trick you into marriage and once there they hold all the leverage. they can be total bitches and still get at least half your money and stuff. they usually get the kids and if thats in danger all they gotta do is say you molested them. they dole out sex for favors and if you resist they threaten divorce. its out of control and just as bad as it was when men had all the power
but try to tell a woman this. they dont mind you saying that men are jerks but try to tell them what they are doing wrong and there is hell to pay
Woody
February 10th, 2008, 1:42:55 AM
One guy explained it to me like this:
You can spend money on a woman by taking her out, buying her dinner etc. and eventually get laid. Or you can spend the same money and sometimes less for just the sex and cut out all the other bullshit. :niterider
Lateralus
February 10th, 2008, 2:32:41 AM
I'm sorry but this a pretty stupid thread. Why do men solicit prostitutes? The obvious answer is the correct one, to get laid. Nothin else to it.
K-Gun
February 10th, 2008, 3:40:44 AM
Well I don't think "convenience" is the reason. And I so love how you make woman out to be "nags"....men "nag" about just as much. But when you are in a realtionship and you solicit a whore it is more than "convenience"....
To me it is more like an illness.....
how much did he pay?
Mouldsie
February 10th, 2008, 3:52:54 AM
wife isnt satisfying him
Scary Good
February 10th, 2008, 4:21:03 AM
Woooooooooo SLUTS!
SweetLee8 3PlayaWha?
February 10th, 2008, 4:55:21 AM
The sick and hot idea that a woman is for sale. Period.
dilbert
February 10th, 2008, 9:42:58 AM
I think a second question that is also critical is why somebody would ask this type of question in a public matter?
anEinherjer
February 10th, 2008, 9:47:28 AM
Is there any logical reason as to why a man would solicit a prostitute? Is it for fantsay? Pleasure? Addiction? What....
Sex without a relationship.
What's the big deal? (As long as the guy's not in a committed relationship, or has that kind of relationship where it's okay to go get nookie somewhere else....)
JLB
February 10th, 2008, 9:59:38 AM
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great old tune!!!!!!!
McD
February 10th, 2008, 11:18:47 AM
I have never paid for sex and never see me ever doing so.
That being said, I'll sum it up this way: I love beer, and when I want one I'm not going to the home brewing kit and brew some up...I'll go down the street and buy it.
I think there are tons of reasons, I'll list a few: living out a fantasy (a million in one right here), they're ugly, have an itch they need scratched, or have a fear of commitment.
If a guys married, maybe his wife is bad in bed, won't do some shit he'd like to do, or it's the same stuff over and over. If he's single, he just might not want a relationship but still has needs, and if he has the money, what's the issue?
Hell, how many women bitch about a guy who's dated them long enough to get into their pants and then ditch them? A lot. So a guy could hit up a prostitute instead and save everyone the hassle. Really there's too many to list.
To each his own.
Ru
February 10th, 2008, 11:27:32 AM
Men aren't paying for the sex; they're paying her to leave afterwards.
chickie
February 10th, 2008, 11:31:38 AM
I think a second question that is also critical is why somebody would ask this type of question in a public matter?
Why not helps to get different perspectives.....maybe one can understand more.
IS there a problem?
WhiteRabbit
February 10th, 2008, 11:34:41 AM
What's the difference between a girl at the bar who will open her legs from Georgia to California if you buy her a couple drinks and say a couple nice things, and a prostitute? The girl at the bar, in most cases, definitely is not looking for a relationship being that "easy."
As for why guys do it ... I have no idea. JLB was actually kinda right in a way, dude probably feels insecure and thinks there's no other way ... ehhh, I'm not sure. I usually go to work early in the morning, and there's this area in Houston I have to drive through ... and every morning there's men dropping off their nightly companions. It kinda makes me cringe, and a lot of these men are business men staying at the Hilton or Marriot down the road ...
dilbert
February 10th, 2008, 11:36:16 AM
Why not helps to get different perspectives.....maybe one can understand more.
IS there a problem?
No, no problem.
BTW, I did not see (although I might have missed it) anybody list the possible rush of doing something one know's they should not do. The thrill of not getting caught.
35Pete
February 10th, 2008, 2:07:31 PM
Why not an addiction to sex? There are addictions to alcohol, drugs, gambling, etc. Some people just can't do things in moderation.
The European school of thought differeniates between psychological issues and physical addiction. I'm pretty sure they wouldn't classify this as an addiction as they would more of a behavior modification issue. A subtle but important distinction. For example, if you go to the AA site, they'll tell you that every alcoholic has a disease. Yet in Europe save the physically addicted they believe than the other "alcoholic-like" drinkers can be taught to enjoy alcohol in moderation. That same concept would apply to sex. What if you are addicted to sex? Does that mean you're gonna abstain cause it's your "drug". Of course not. You MODIFY your behavior.
I think the word "addiction" is misused in the states. And apply "sex addiction" to Johns makes it nice and convenient to shove our morals into the law by claiming that we are helping people with a "disease".
uppy
February 10th, 2008, 2:31:36 PM
how much did he pay?
It could cost a guy his future with the one he loves.
The price is to high in my opinion.
The hand is a better option
pmoon6
February 10th, 2008, 2:49:19 PM
Never had one. Never even thought about it.
When I was single, the thrill of the chase and conquest was always more satisfying than the act itself. I would much rather spend my money on the whole experience of dating and getting to know one another than just forking out the cash to go at it.
I can see a married guy whose sexual relationship has become boring and banal taking a walk on the wild side. Fortunately, mine is anything but.
This is just the opinion of an old fart who has been married for more years than he can count and still looks at his wife like the day they first met.
I guess I'm just an incurable romantic.
pmoon6
February 10th, 2008, 2:50:08 PM
It could cost a guy his future with the one he loves.
The price is to high in my opinion.
The hand is a better optionWanker.:D
uppy
February 10th, 2008, 2:52:14 PM
Wanker.:D
Its a hell of a lot cheaper
pmoon6
February 10th, 2008, 2:54:59 PM
Its a hell of a lot cheaperYour frugality is astounding.
Meathead
February 10th, 2008, 2:55:49 PM
even my hand makes me pay for sex
kybillsfan
February 10th, 2008, 3:00:43 PM
No is shouldn't be legal. And why on earth would anyone "pay" for sex? Are you looking for something in particular and you know it is a "sure" thing?
What business is it of anyones if somebody wants to buy a bj or something? What if a disabled woman wants to get off the government cheese and be self sufficient by selling herself? Its immoral to tell people what they can/cant do witht their own body, isnt that what the GOP is all about, morals?
bev
February 10th, 2008, 6:36:36 PM
Yes i.e. Michael Douglas - he has been in therepy for years for a major addiction to sex - this surprises you somehow? It IS out there.
kybillsfan
February 10th, 2008, 6:45:02 PM
even my hand makes me pay for sexwow, sucks to be doesnt it. My hand pays me.
uppy
February 10th, 2008, 6:50:52 PM
Welcome Bev
uppy
February 10th, 2008, 7:04:56 PM
What business is it of anyones if somebody wants to buy a bj or something? What if a disabled woman wants to get off the government cheese and be self sufficient by selling herself? Its immoral to tell people what they can/cant do witht their own body, isnt that what the GOP is all about, morals?
My God KY,should people be allowed to do anything they want if all they harm
is their "own Body" ?
I might agree with you if I didnt pay taxes,but since I do,and since this disabled
woman could get AIDS then demand the goverment to pay for her healthcare
I think I have a say.
Now if all you "it's my body" people signed off on asking the taxpayers to pick
up the pices of your life after you ****ed it up....I'd be all for it.
kybillsfan
February 10th, 2008, 7:23:26 PM
My God KY,should people be allowed to do anything they want if all they harm
is their "own Body" ?
I might agree with you if I didnt pay taxes,but since I do,and since this disabled
woman could get AIDS then demand the goverment to pay for her healthcare
I think I have a say.
Now if all you "it's my body" people signed off on asking the taxpayers to pick
up the pices of your life after you ****ed it up....I'd be all for it.
Yes they should, who is anyone to force them not to? Maybe the problem isnt prostitution, maybe its the gov paying for healthcare. Why not let people opt out of gov healthcare inorder to do these things? If that is the only holdup then I see no problem with people "signing off".
uppy
February 10th, 2008, 7:56:06 PM
Yes they should, who is anyone to force them not to? Maybe the problem isnt prostitution, maybe its the gov paying for healthcare. Why not let people opt out of gov healthcare inorder to do these things? If that is the only holdup then I see no problem with people "signing off".
The point is the "its my body" people will claim they've been somehow victimized
by being allowed to do what they wish.They will never take responsibly for their
actions and you and I as taxpayers will end up paying the tab.
Also,even if they did live up to their agreement to opt out,the moonbats would
demand we pay.
Green Lantern
February 10th, 2008, 7:57:52 PM
Prostitution revolves around taxes? You two are unbelievable.
uppy
February 10th, 2008, 8:02:51 PM
Prostitution revolves around taxes? You two are unbelievable.
You having a hard time following along ?
Its not Prostitution we were talking about......its who pays for the past actions
of the person
Green Lantern
February 10th, 2008, 8:05:03 PM
You having a hard time following along ?
Its not Prostitution we were talking about......its who pays for the past actions
of the person
Following? The question was: logical reason why men solicit prostitutes.
For you two it has devolved into paying taxes for others' actions.
uppy
February 10th, 2008, 8:11:42 PM
Following? The question was: logical reason why men solicit prostitutes.
For you two it has devolved into paying taxes for others' actions.
Take a step back Aqua...in the past KY has said people have the right to do as
they wish with their bodys and the goverment has no rights in this issue.
I would tend to agree with him if my taxes did not end up paying for their stupidity.
shiva2999
February 10th, 2008, 8:47:32 PM
Sometimes you just need the honesty of a whore.
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Green Lantern
February 10th, 2008, 8:49:32 PM
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I was wondering if anyone would get it.
jaymitch84
February 10th, 2008, 8:53:10 PM
But to pay for it....to solicit.....I mean there has to be some logic here? Some reason? Why not just go to a bar and pick a chick up isn't that easier and cheaper?
I guess while we're here, care to reveal how to make picking up a girl an "easy" task?
I've been back in the single world for about 5 months after the ending of a 3-year relationship (what a roller coaster that was), and I wouldn't label picking up a girl as "easy." Or it could be that I'm out of practice?
On the topic...I personally wouldn't solicit a prostitute because, eh just wouldn't. But I agree with what other people have said...if you really feel like you have to get your freak on and you have the "convenience" of a hooker...by all means, do what you wish. No one's stopping you.
But that's only if you are single. If you are in a relationship, there is no logical reason for it.
shiva2999
February 10th, 2008, 8:54:07 PM
I was wondering if anyone would get it.
One of my all time favorite movies.
"If it wasn't for us, you'd all be speaking German!"
Brat tat tat tat tat tat tat tat!!!
Green Lantern
February 10th, 2008, 9:00:21 PM
One of my all time favorite movies.
"If it wasn't for us, you'd all be speaking German!"
Brat tat tat tat tat tat tat tat!!!
What do you suppose was originally under the four square tatoos on Stoltz's arm in that movie? No one gets four black squares, right?
chickie
February 10th, 2008, 9:01:44 PM
I guess while we're here, care to reveal how to make picking up a girl an "easy" task?
I've been back in the single world for about 5 months after the ending of a 3-year relationship (what a roller coaster that was), and I wouldn't label picking up a girl as "easy." Or it could be that I'm out of practice?
On the topic...I personally wouldn't solicit a prostitute because, eh just wouldn't. But I agree with what other people have said...if you really feel like you have to get your freak on and you have the "convenience" of a hooker...by all means, do what you wish. No one's stopping you.
But that's only if you are single. If you are in a relationship, there is no logical reason for it.
Couldn't agree with you MORE!
shiva2999
February 10th, 2008, 9:07:53 PM
What do you suppose was originally under the four square tatoos on Stoltz's arm in that movie? No one gets four black squares, right?
Beats me. I thought it was a cool tat.
Geez, if I had a chance to boink Julie Delpy and all it cost was a few lousy francs, well....
shiva2999
February 10th, 2008, 9:10:25 PM
Couldn't agree with you MORE!
Why do straight women not want men to act like heterosexuals?
Nature only cares about the survival of the species.
Men are designed by nature to try and spread their DNA as much as possible.
Green Lantern
February 10th, 2008, 9:10:43 PM
Beats me. I thought it was a cool tat.
Geez, if I had a chance to boink Julie Delpy and all it cost was a few lousy francs, well....
I think is was SPQR...ha!
chickie
February 10th, 2008, 9:16:01 PM
Why do straight women not want men to act like heterosexuals?
Nature only cares about the survival of the species.
Men are designed by nature to try and spread their DNA as much as possible.
This is so not a true statement - by all means act however you want.
However we really don't need weak men spreading their DNA all over - but I guess if you fell the need to do that then stay single. That is why prostitutes are around. They are there for the weak minded lost souls who just can't get their thumbs out of their mouths.
shiva2999
February 10th, 2008, 9:31:26 PM
This is so not a true statement - by all means act however you want.
However we really don't need weak men spreading their DNA all over - but I guess if you fell the need to do that then stay single. That is why prostitutes are around. They are there for the weak minded lost souls who just can't get their thumbs out of their mouths.
Men are men. They'd **** half the women in the world if they could.
It's your job to make sure they're too exhausted to try.
chickie
February 10th, 2008, 9:52:40 PM
Men are men. They'd **** half the women in the world if they could.
It's your job to make sure they're too exhausted to try.
I asked for logic here Shiva not stupidity.............
shiva2999
February 10th, 2008, 9:59:55 PM
I asked for logic here Shiva not stupidity.............
It's not illogical just because you don't want to hear it.
chickie
February 10th, 2008, 10:09:35 PM
It's not illogical just because you don't want to hear it.
hahahahaha - It has nothing to do with what one "wants" to hear.
You almost made me pee my pants here! heheheheheheh
jimmifli
February 10th, 2008, 10:19:29 PM
One of my all time favorite movies.
"If it wasn't for us, you'd all be speaking German!"
Brat tat tat tat tat tat tat tat!!!
200 bucks and I can't pee on you?
shiva2999
February 10th, 2008, 10:24:17 PM
hahahahaha - It has nothing to do with what one "wants" to hear.
You almost made me pee my pants here! heheheheheheh
You asked for an explanation of male behavior.
I gave it to you. It's the truth.
You just don't want to hear it. All you want to hear is men are scum.
Good luck with that.
Men and women are different creatures with different agendas.
A lot of the things we do aren't nice, but the things we do that aren't nice are different.
For example, men generally don't impregnate women against their will.
But women will get pregnant against a man's will.
TigerJ
February 10th, 2008, 10:25:12 PM
Is there any logical reason as to why a man would solicit a prostitute? Is it for fantsay? Pleasure? Addiction? What....
Not having solicited a prostitute, I couldn't answer that question. I can give one very good answer why men should want to be careful about whom they solicit for sex: AIDS.
shiva2999
February 10th, 2008, 10:26:14 PM
200 bucks and I can't pee on you?
"**** the bank! Tonight we live life! Now we do heroin!"
35Pete
February 10th, 2008, 10:26:37 PM
My God KY,should people be allowed to do anything they want if all they harm
is their "own Body" ?
Absolutely
I might agree with you if I didnt pay taxes,but since I do,and since this disabled
woman could get AIDS then demand the goverment to pay for her healthcare
I think I have a say.
Now if all you "it's my body" people signed off on asking the taxpayers to pick
up the pices of your life after you ****ed it up....I'd be all for it.
DON'T EVER EVER EVER call someone around here a liberal, moonbat.
Gee. You morph like a madman. Gonna start calling you a moonbat soon enough.
uppy
February 10th, 2008, 10:51:49 PM
You asked for an explanation of male behavior.
I gave it to you. It's the truth.
You just don't want to hear it. All you want to hear is men are scum.
Good luck with that.
Men and women are different creatures with different agendas.
A lot of the things we do aren't nice, but the things we do that aren't nice are different.
For example, men generally don't impregnate women against their will.
But women will get pregnant against a man's will.
Thats a tough lesson you've learned in life Shiva Huh ?
Next time pull out
uppy
February 10th, 2008, 10:57:23 PM
Gee. You morph like a madman. Gonna start calling you a moonbat soon enough.
Its bed time for me....I'll get back to this post tommorow my friend....moonbat my
ass.
LMAO
Sparx
February 11th, 2008, 1:37:43 AM
Why do women solicit prostitutes?
westphal
February 11th, 2008, 2:17:18 AM
Is there any logical reason as to why a man would solicit a prostitute? Is it for fantsay? Pleasure? Addiction? What....
Words cannot describe why a man would solicite a prostitute. We'll have to explain it through song. This tune should clear it up...not a great quality vid, so pay close attention to the words.
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kybillsfan
February 11th, 2008, 8:04:51 AM
The point is the "its my body" people will claim they've been somehow victimized
by being allowed to do what they wish.They will never take responsibly for their
actions and you and I as taxpayers will end up paying the tab.
Also,even if they did live up to their agreement to opt out,the moonbats would
demand we pay.
They are taxpayers too. Besides that how can you even begin to believe they will not take responsibility? Sure some may not but most would. So if the moonbats stayed out of it you would be for it?
Lucidvizion
February 11th, 2008, 8:40:03 AM
Edit: Nevermind, Ru said it already. :)
kybillsfan
February 11th, 2008, 8:57:33 AM
Following? The question was: logical reason why men solicit prostitutes.
For you two it has devolved into paying taxes for others' actions. I am not advocating anything like that.
notacon
February 11th, 2008, 9:20:21 AM
"Why do men solicit prostitutes?"
Because they are there.
The bigger question is...
Why do women debase themselves to BE a prostitute?
Gopchick obviously is trying to allude to the notion that it is somehow tawdry for men to pay for sex.
But, that supposed tawdriness is NOTHING compared to the self loathing of women that lay down and sell themselves.
Is there any logical reason as to why a woman would become prostitute? Is it for fantasy? Pleasure? Addiction? What....
buffjills
February 11th, 2008, 9:20:45 AM
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Is that Ron Jeremy taking that shotgun blast to the chest??
shiva2999
February 11th, 2008, 9:24:19 AM
Is that Ron Jeremy taking that shotgun blast to the chest??
Yup.
buffjills
February 11th, 2008, 9:46:02 AM
Don't tell me he's gone legit
shiva2999
February 11th, 2008, 9:54:29 AM
Don't tell me he's gone legit
Ron's had plenty of legit gigs through the years.
This one was from '95.
Ru
February 11th, 2008, 9:59:09 AM
The Hedgehog isn't just all **** you know.
Meathead
February 11th, 2008, 10:19:16 AM
is there a more disgusting man in porn
hes plowed some gorgeous chicks but i couldnt get off with his fat ugly ass runnin the plow
Ru
February 11th, 2008, 10:26:40 AM
is there a more disgusting man in porn
hes plowed some gorgeous chicks but i couldnt get off with his fat ugly ass runnin the plow
You would really enjoy the one he made recently with Blue Iris.
chickie
February 11th, 2008, 10:35:13 AM
"Why do men solicit prostitutes?"
Because they are there.
The bigger question is...
Why do women debase themselves to BE a prostitute?
Gopchick obviously is trying to allude to the notion that it is somehow tawdry for men to pay for sex.
But, that supposed tawdriness is NOTHING compared to the self loathing of women that lay down and sell themselves.
Is there any logical reason as to why a woman would become prostitute? Is it for fantasy? Pleasure? Addiction? What....
You are right notacon......for a woman to have to stoop to selling her goods to a pervert is sad. I feel bad for both sides of the coin.......but I guess they lack common sense.
buffjills
February 11th, 2008, 10:38:20 AM
You would really enjoy the one he made recently with Blue Iris.
There's a visual I didn't need
notacon
February 11th, 2008, 12:34:14 PM
You are right notacon......for a woman to have to stoop to selling her goods to a pervert is sad. I feel bad for both sides of the coin.......but I guess they lack common sense.
Why in the world do you call a man who pays for sex with a prostitute a "pervert"?!?!?!?
He's not.
Men have been paying for sex since the beginning of time...and I am not talking about paying a prostitute.
If you think that men go out on dates, buy dinner, pay for a movie because they like the time they spend with a woman, you are more clueless than I thought.
Marriage is the ultimate institution designed...for I really don't know.
It sure is not about "love"...I think it is more property rights...as in 'she is mine and you can't get in her'...at least in a historical perspective like in the first few thousand years of that particular institution.
chickie
February 11th, 2008, 12:53:03 PM
Why in the world do you call a man who pays for sex with a prostitute a "pervert"?!?!?!?
He's not.
Men have been paying for sex since the beginning of time...and I am not talking about paying a prostitute.
If you think that men go out on dates, buy dinner, pay for a movie because they like the time they spend with a woman, you are more clueless than I thought.
Marriage is the ultimate institution designed...for I really don't know.
It sure is not about "love"...I think it is more property rights...as in 'she is mine and you can't get in her'...at least in a historical perspective like in the first few thousand years of that particular institution.
Because they are perverts - just like pee herman and the rest!
And perverts have been around just as long prostitutes!
At least when a man goes out on a date and buys the girl dinner and wines and dines her - he wants more then just a **** he obviously wants companionship as well or he would just hire a ho.
pmoon6
February 11th, 2008, 12:55:50 PM
Why in the world do you call a man who pays for sex with a prostitute a "pervert"?!?!?!?
He's not.
Men have been paying for sex since the beginning of time...and I am not talking about paying a prostitute.
If you think that men go out on dates, buy dinner, pay for a movie because they like the time they spend with a woman, you are more clueless than I thought.
Marriage is the ultimate institution designed...for I really don't know.
It sure is not about "love"...I think it is more property rights...as in 'she is mine and you can't get in her'...at least in a historical perspective like in the first few thousand years of that particular institution.Speak for yourself.
Ru
February 11th, 2008, 12:59:17 PM
Because they are perverts - just like pee herman and the rest!
And perverts have been around just as long prostitutes!
At least when a man goes out on a date and buys the girl dinner and wines and dines her - he wants more then just a **** he obviously wants companionship as well or he would just hire a ho.
I'm convinced that if you could read every man's thoughts for a day, you would be convinced that we are all perverted degenerates who need to be removed from society. This includes all men, your father, your brother, your son, your husband, etc. All men are human after all.
westphal
February 11th, 2008, 1:07:20 PM
Sex sells. Period.
Some women actually enjoy sex, and that's why they become prostitutes. Also, it's fast money. In some countries like Amsterdam, prostitution is legal and controlled, just like it is in some areas of Nevada. A lot of streetwalkers prostitute themselves to support a drug habit and have pimps and stuff...that is unhealthy.
Men pick up prostitutes because they want to have sex. Here, they get to have it with no attachments and no questions asked. I don't see what is so hard to understand. I don't think it's necessarily perverted to want to have sex; it's a natural impulse. Asking why a man would want to hire a prostitute is like asking why a man would want to go to a stripclub or watch porn...it's an offshoot of the same natural human craving for the opposite sex.
Prostitutes have existed in one form or another since time immemorial, and they will continue to exist. If it were legalized and controlled, it wouldn't be nearly as risky or taboo. It would also be safer for the women.
notacon
February 11th, 2008, 1:37:43 PM
Speak for yourself.
Only talking in a general sense moonie. Is there any doubt that marriage has been the most abused institution ever invented?
I am also talking about a historical respect. Marriage was always more about property rights and family bloodlines...in the pheasants it was more of a practical matter. A way to have a woman take care of the house and bear children...to work the land.
"Love" rarely came into the picture. Arranged marriages...match makers...rtc.
Not sure if "love" is the reason people get married today. So many divorces. True love does not fade away so easily...or at least it should not.
Hell...why don't you just ask most of the Republican presidential candidates!
Rudy certainly gave a nice example.
chickie
February 11th, 2008, 1:40:05 PM
I'm convinced that if you could read every man's thoughts for a day, you would be convinced that we are all perverted degenerates who need to be removed from society. This includes all men, your father, your brother, your son, your husband, etc. All men are human after all.
Sure - of course. But those are thoughts - but when you act on them is a totally different thing.
Woman have the same thougths - but again they are THOUGHTS.....
chickie
February 11th, 2008, 1:42:34 PM
Sex sells. Period.
Some women actually enjoy sex, and that's why they become prostitutes. Also, it's fast money. In some countries like Amsterdam, prostitution is legal and controlled, just like it is in some areas of Nevada. A lot of streetwalkers prostitute themselves to support a drug habit and have pimps and stuff...that is unhealthy.
Men pick up prostitutes because they want to have sex. Here, they get to have it with no attachments and no questions asked. I don't see what is so hard to understand. I don't think it's necessarily perverted to want to have sex; it's a natural impulse. Asking why a man would want to hire a prostitute is like asking why a man would want to go to a stripclub or watch porn...it's an offshoot of the same natural human craving for the opposite sex.
Prostitutes have existed in one form or another since time immemorial, and they will continue to exist. If it were legalized and controlled, it wouldn't be nearly as risky or taboo. It would also be safer for the women.
And yes I understand all of this - but if you are going to feel to have this "need" then why get in a relationship and take a chance of getting caught and hurting one that you love?
notacon
February 11th, 2008, 1:43:32 PM
Because they are perverts - just like pee herman and the rest!
And perverts have been around just as long prostitutes!
At least when a man goes out on a date and buys the girl dinner and wines and dines her - he wants more then just a **** he obviously wants companionship as well or he would just hire a ho.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
"Pee wee Herman?!?!?! Is THAT your idea of a regular prostitute patron?!?!?!
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Who exactly is "the rest"?!?!?!
You surely have no idea what goes on inside men's minds.
Maybe most men just want a clean "ho" and like the idea of conquest...and not some lame idea of companionship.
I certainly know about companionship...but many times that has little to do with sex.
In any event, patronizing prostitutes is no more "perverted" than a woman using her sexuality to get what she wants out of a man.
The second is much more common than the first.
pmoon6
February 11th, 2008, 1:44:00 PM
Only talking in a general sense moonie. Is there any doubt that marriage has been the most abused institution ever invented?
I am also talking about a historical respect. Marriage was always more about property rights and family bloodlines...in the pheasants it was more of a practical matter. A way to have a woman take care of the house and bear children...to work the land.
"Love" rarely came into the picture. Arranged marriages...match makers...rtc.
Not sure if "love" is the reason people get married today. So many divorces. True love does not fade away so easily...or at least it should not.
Hell...why don't you just ask most of the Republican presidential candidates!
Rudy certainly gave a nice example.I hear ya. I can only speak for myself. I was just lucky to find that special someone. It seems to be very rare these days.
Unless you go to eHarmony dot com.:D
Ru
February 11th, 2008, 1:45:31 PM
:In any event, patronizing prostitutes is no more "perverted" than a woman using her sexuality to get what she wants out of a man.
The second is much more common than the first.
Absolutely. I've always said that every woman has prostituted herself in some sense of the word.
westphal
February 11th, 2008, 1:47:41 PM
Sure - of course. But those are thoughts - but when you act on them is a totally different thing.
Woman have the same thougths - but again they are THOUGHTS.....
So, if you admit to having those thoughts, why is it such an outrageous jump in logic for you to understand why some people choose to act on those thoughts?
Because it's against the law? Because other people might look down on such actions?
Say what you want, but prostitution is just another form of consentual sex.
The people who pick up prostitutes are all regular people from your own community. They are not necessarily bad or perverted.
pmoon6
February 11th, 2008, 1:47:52 PM
And yes I understand all of this - but if you are going to feel to have this "need" then why get in a relationship and take a chance of getting caught and hurting one that you love?I know as many women that have cheated on the husbands as the reverse.
Adultery is not exclusive to the dominant of the species.:D
Green Lantern
February 11th, 2008, 4:07:31 PM
"Why do men solicit prostitutes?"
Because they are there.
The bigger question is...
Why do women debase themselves to BE a prostitute?
Gopchick obviously is trying to allude to the notion that it is somehow tawdry for men to pay for sex.
But, that supposed tawdriness is NOTHING compared to the self loathing of women that lay down and sell themselves.
Is there any logical reason as to why a woman would become prostitute? Is it for fantasy? Pleasure? Addiction? What....
You are right notacon......for a woman to have to stoop to selling her goods to a pervert is sad. I feel bad for both sides of the coin.......but I guess they lack common sense.
What's the difference between a drug dealer and a prostitute?
A prostitute can wash her crack and sell it again.
Meathead
February 11th, 2008, 5:00:41 PM
You would really enjoy the one he made recently with Blue Iris.
i doubt it
hes fat and hairy and gross and i cant tune his disgustingness out enough to focus on even the hottest bitch
hes got that huge dick but it looks all gnarly like it fell off some leprosy patient
no thanks
westphal
February 11th, 2008, 5:02:18 PM
And yes I understand all of this - but if you are going to feel to have this "need" then why get in a relationship and take a chance of getting caught and hurting one that you love?
Can you really not see the difference?
Prostitution is one thing. A relationship is another thing entirely.
"Getting caught" is a third thing. "Hiring" a prostitute, again, does not make you a bad person. Then again, it all depends on who the person is that sits in judgment about the situation. If you "get caught," you run the risk of being judged, but I think that we should all form our own moral codes and decide for ourselves what is right or wrong.
In other words, if you have a problem with it, that's your problem.
If somebody has a problem with someone else enjoying a prostitute, then that is the problem of the person who sits in judgment over the entire thing. Of course, if that person that sits in judgment happens to be a judge, then the "John" has a problem as well.
But I've always felt that there is nothing inherently bad about prostitution.
If you are in a serious relationship with a women who disapproves and do it, that's another story IMO. You're probably a jerk if you do that IMO.
Remember, prostitutes are people too.
Ru
February 11th, 2008, 5:10:05 PM
i doubt it
hes fat and hairy and gross and i cant tune his disgustingness out enough to focus on even the hottest bitch
hes got that huge dick but it looks all gnarly like it fell off some leprosy patient
no thanks
Well, seeing that Blue Iris is in her 80's, you won't know where to focus. Your head might just explode.
chickie
February 11th, 2008, 9:01:13 PM
each and everyone of you who has posted has made very valid statements on both sides of my questions.
I guess I was just baffled as to why one would do such a thing? Not saying that if one does solicit it is right or wrong.
I feel that it is under any circumstances - however that is my personal feeling.
I wasn't trying to argue with anyone out here. I was just really trying to understand why someone in a healthy relationship would do that. That is it the bottom line. I should have been more clear from the beginning. I apologize.
There is no logical reason. And I understand that the actions of another whether they are right or wrong is not going to change the outcome.
I think you all for your feedback.
westphal
February 11th, 2008, 10:06:33 PM
each and everyone of you who has posted has made very valid statements on both sides of my questions.
I guess I was just baffled as to why one would do such a thing? Not saying that if one does solicit it is right or wrong.
I feel that it is under any circumstances - however that is my personal feeling.
I wasn't trying to argue with anyone out here. I was just really trying to understand why someone in a healthy relationship would do that. That is it the bottom line. I should have been more clear from the beginning. I apologize.
There is no logical reason. And I understand that the actions of another whether they are right or wrong is not going to change the outcome.
I think you all for your feedback.
Cool, gopchick.
No need to apologize.
I'm sure if you grew a penis that you would probably understand right away, at least on a different level anyway.
But if you did grow a penis, we would all be in big trouble somehow. LOL
However, I feel that there is a very understandable reason why people pick up prostitutes, and it makes perfectly logical sense. Whether or not you agree with that reason is the subject of another debate, and it is up to the individual to decide.
Another thing to consider is that not everyone that picks up a prostitute wants to nail them against the wall...excuse my French. Many of them are just lonely fellows that, yes, just pick up prostitutes for a form of companionship.
Others aren't getting what they want from their wives or girlfriends in the bedroom. In other words, they want a hummer but their partner refuses to to it. That's common as well.
On the other hand, I'm almost sure that I'm trying to understand the whole thing from my nice guy perspective. I'm sure that there a bunch of total bastards that are regular customers of prostitutes.
It's an interesting discussion.
I feel that the act of picking up a prostitute only becomes devious when you are "officially" committed to a partner who disapproves. **** the law...in this case, it reminds me of someone trying to break up two dogs humping...it's really none of their business. Diseases are an issue, but they distract from the main point of this discussion.
It's like this: I can't understand why anyone would eat sauerkraut. Why would anyone want to eat what makes me want to puke just by smelling it?. The answer comes back...it's that person's personal tastes.
Maybe you aren't judging but seeking to understand. But hey, I'll never understand why anyone would choose to eat sauerkraut.
That's my take, and of course, that's only my opinion. The important thing is to think for yourself on issues like this...not that you don't. I like to keep an open mind as much as I can. I also try to respect contrary opinions as much as I can. I don't always succeed...far from it... but I try.
...and, by the way, I'm not in the habit of picking up prostitutes...lol
unklechucky
February 15th, 2008, 3:20:39 PM
:popcorn:
JayHall93
February 15th, 2008, 5:18:46 PM
When i was stationed in Korea, i could get laid for $20.
That's more economical than going to a bar and buying drinks, or going out on a date.
My philosophy and reasoning was simple.
At the end of the night, one way or another, i was gonna get some.
I do believe some of my former Andrew Jackson's are floating around the Korean black market.
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