Barack Winning Big

[Papaduke]

So far Obama has won both the Nebraska and Washington Caucuses by greater than 2-1 margins. Is this the start of a definate shift in the race in favor of Obama?

[JLB]

Good News!! :rockon:

[kybillsfan]

Good News!! :rockon: I would have to agree, much better than Hilary.

[LiterateStylish]

So far Obama has won both the Nebraska and Washington Caucuses by greater than 2-1 margins. Is this the start of a definate shift in the race in favor of Obama?

He is currently up in Louisiana also.

[Papaduke]

CNN is talking about the possibility of it being 3 weeks before Hillary wins another primary... that could be way too long. People will get behind the winning candidate and Hillary may be in trouble. That being said, Hillary tends to win when backed against a wall.

[LiterateStylish]

CNN is talking about the possibility of it being 3 weeks before Hillary wins another primary... that could be way too long. People will get behind the winning candidate and Hillary may be in trouble. That being said, Hillary tends to win when backed against a wall.

Does she have some kind of track record of coming from behind?

[kybillsfan]

Does she have some kind of track record of coming from behind?
I think she just likes it from behind.

[micknaboz]

The Clinton campaign knew Feb. was going to be a very bad month for them, though looking at the percentages I'm not sure they knew it was gonna be that bad.
Either way, they're focusing their energy on Texas and Ohio where polls show her with a good lead. If she does well in those two this thing is going to the convention.

Bring on the super delegates.
At least Lieberman won't be one, part of the Zell Miller rule, because Joe has endorsed McCain. My biggest hope for 2008 is 8-10 new D senate seats, so we can kick his republican lite ass out out of the party.

[LiterateStylish]

I think she just likes it from behind.

ha.

[chickie]

Thank God he is getting the votes - the last thing we need is Hillary in the running for the white house.

[Papaduke]

Its not that he won, it is that she did not clear 40% in any state and 2 of the 3 states are not huge African American population states.

[Cornellian]

We really have no idea what's going to happen in Maine today; there's been a real dearth of polling data.

But as for the next contests, he's up 23 in Virginia, 20 in Maryland, and it's probably a waste of time to poll in DC since his margin there is going to be so huge. Then there's Hawaii where he used to live, and Wisconsin, which is demographically favorable to Obama in the same way as Kansas, Nebraska, and Iowa were.

I'm reasonably confident about every primary except for Maine. If he can win Maine, and if the rest of the states this month are the foregone conclusions that they seem to be, we could be looking at an unstoppable tidal wave of momentum for Obama.

[uppy]

Obamarama has my thanks for killing the beast

[deconstruction]

Whoever wins texas/ohio will win the nomination.

[Green Lantern]

Obamarama has my thanks for killing the beast

She is wounded, not dead. The fat lady has not yet sung.

[micknaboz]

Whoever wins texas/ohio will win the nomination.

Thats not what the polls are predicting. If it keeps playing out like many are envisioning, and have been right about in regards to yesterdays races, neither one will have enough delegates to clinch before the convention.

They were expecting Obama to do very well yesterday, and the rest of feb.
Polls have shown TX and OH going Hillary. So unless the Obama campaign can flip Ohio and Tx, or Hillary could flip some of these Feb states (much less likely) its going to the super delegates.

[Green Lantern]

Obama winning Maine with 45% of the vote in:

Obama: 57%

Clinton: 42%

[uppy]

She is wounded, not dead. The fat lady has not yet sung.


I saw her on TV,the beast is not looking happy in the snow up in Maine

[micknaboz]

Clinton replaces campaign manager

WASHINGTON - Democratic Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton replaced campaign manager Patti Solis Doyle with longtime aide Maggie Williams on Sunday, a staff shake-up coming just hours after presidential rival Barack Obama’s Saturday sweep of three contests.

Campaign aides said Solis Doyle made the decision to leave on her own and was not urged to do so by the former first lady or any other senior member of the team. But it comes as Clinton struggles to catch Obama in fundraising and momentum and faces the prospect of losing every voting contest yet to come in February.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23099005/

Very interesting. Is she getting desperate, or did the CM actually leave on her own?

[uppy]

I'm enjoying the crash of the fat lady

[JMNY83]

Whoever wins texas/ohio will win the nomination.

Hillary is probably a lock here in TX. Hispanics are the largest minority and they're not voting for Obama. It will probably come down to Ohio once again.

[Green Lantern]

Obama: 59%

Clinton: 41%

With 79% reporting.

[Riley_Mason]

They were expecting Obama to do very well yesterday, and the rest of feb.

"They" didn't expect him to be a serious candidate, much less a serious threat. None of this was expected.

[Green Lantern]

"They" didn't expect him to be a serious candidate, much less a serious threat. None of this was expected.

Personally, I think it because he is a better politician.

[micknaboz]

Personally, I think it because he is a better politician.

May I ask why?
I mean what do you base this on?

I know he's a very inspirational guy to listen to, very articulate and lots of charisma. But IMHO those qualities don't necessarily transfer over to being a good politician/president.

[Green Lantern]

May I ask why?
I mean what do you base this on?

I know he's a very inspirational guy to listen to, very articulate and lots of charisma. But IMHO those qualities don't necessarily transfer over to being a good politician/president.

His articulation is the thing I am speaking of. He is running for president and he has whole, complete thoughts about things that he strings together in understandable speeches. Hillary talks in disconnected buzz-word sound bytes. I listened to uninterrupted speeches by both of them on CNN today and was struck by this difference between them once again. These were not debates but speeches, no interruption, and Hillary was disjointed.

You can think an ability to convey your thoughts to others is not very important but I still see it as the biggest differential in a politician's interactions with the public. If Bush had learned to communicate any farther than that crooked, folksy smile I do not think his numbers would be so low or that he would have lost the 'language' war Uppy likes to talk about.

[micknaboz]

His articulation is the thing I am speaking of. He is running for president and he has whole, complete thoughts about things that he strings together in understandable speeches. Hillary talks in disconnected buzz-word sound bytes. I listened to uninterrupted speeches by both of them on CNN today and was struck by this difference between them once again. These were not debates but speeches, no interruption, and Hillary was disjointed.

You can think an ability to convey your thoughts to others is not very important but I still see it as the biggest differential in a politician's interactions with the public. If Bush had learned to communicate any farther than that crooked, folksy smile I do not think his numbers would be so low or that he would have lost the 'language' war Uppy likes to talk about.

Well you can give Bush all the articulation in the world, his agendas and lies would still be ****ed. So scratch that one.

And I personally worry more about how Obama or Clinton will govern, then their interaction with the public. I love how inspiring Obama is, I just question weather he's ready to be president. And its well known that Hillary has a very good rapport with a number of R senators , hopefully we can drag their right wing asses back to the center.

Either way , Hillary or Barack will be heads and shoulders above anything the present administration has done, or any Republican now running, unless that is you're a big fan of 100 year wars.

[Green Lantern]

Well you can give Bush all the articulation in the world, his agendas and lies would still be ****ed. So scratch that one.

And I personally worry more about how Obama or Clinton will govern, then their interaction with the public. I love how inspiring Obama is, I just question weather he's ready to be president. And its well known that Hillary has a very good rapport with a number of R senators , hopefully we can drag their right wing asses back to the center.

Either way , Hillary or Barack will be heads and shoulders above anything the present administration has done, or any Republican now running, unless that is you're a big fan of 100 year wars.

It is worth noting that the candidates pulling the most support right now are both ignoring the fringe wing of their party and speaking to the moderates/independents of the country.