A Spinoff Of Nehemiah's "Soldier's Trained Round Up or Kill Americans".

[35Pete]

Again. WELCOME TO BEECH GROVE, INDIANA.


An American Concentration Camp.

Thank FEMA. Your tax dollars at work.

Ohh, use GOOGLE EARTH. Check it out. Twenty miles SE of Indianapolis. Follow the train tracks from the city center.

It's legit.

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[35Pete]

Petrodollars and the collapse of Wall Street. Petrodollars.

Someone asked about why the government killed 3,000 on 9/11?

Petrodollars. Lose them and our economy, based on trillions of debt collapses.

Two nations in 2000 planned to convert oil revenues to a Euro-based system of energy commodity trade:

Iran and Iraq.

Had they succeeded the (still inevitable) economic collapse would have made 1929 look like a picnic. We needed an excuse to pummel these nations and stop the conversion.

It adds up folks. It really does.

[gilchristfan]

someone got an insider's view of this death camp earlier this year:

http://www.trainweb.org/chris/beech.html

[35Pete]

someone got an insider's view of this death camp earlier this year:

http://www.trainweb.org/chris/beech.html

Hmm. Someone is lying. Who then? Is the cite that I posted Beech Grove or is the site that you posted the real deal?

[WhiteRabbit]

someone got an insider's view of this death camp earlier this year:

http://www.trainweb.org/chris/beech.html

:rofl:

THANK YOU!!!!!!

[FamousAmos]

Hmm. Someone is lying. Who then? Is the cite that I posted Beech Grove or is the site that you posted the real deal?

Pete, the cite you posted was indeed very creepy. But you have to question the narrator's choice of language because it seemed like she was pointing out certain things like markers on chain link fences too close for parking markers. Could be used for lining up people. She was making some assumptions.

But of course the eltrical turnstiles, the new furnaces and the barbed wire fences pointed inwards, are strange and suspicious as well.

i dont know. interestinf find though

[gilchristfan]

Hmm. Someone is lying. Who then? Is the cite that I posted Beech Grove or is the site that you posted the real deal?

You could drive around filming the Buffalo Central Terminal and come up with many of conclusions as did the lady in the video.

I don't think Mark Miller would be happy with someone calling his station a death camp though.

[35Pete]

You could drive around filming the Buffalo Central Terminal and come up with many of conclusions as did the lady in the video.

I don't think Mark Miller would be happy with someone calling his station a death camp though.

I've been to Buffalo Central Terminal.

No, you couldn't come up with the same conclusions. How you can make that statement and claim it fact is beyond me. What's interesting about the pictures that your site posted is that not a single one of them showed any close angle shot remotely resembling that of the video. The video was shot a few years ago. Your pictures are recent. The site is absolutely monsterous in size. Dual-use perhaps? Hide in plain site? Dunno. Just postulating. One side now open for repairing trains, another side, off limits to the workers? I looked pretty carefully at each photo and compared them to the video Gil. I hadn't seen one angle that the video showed.

So, in reality the pictures wouldn't prove or disprove anything, would they?

[WhiteRabbit]

http://discuss.amtraktrains.com/lofiversion/index.php/t17066.html

http://lakeshoreservices.com/railnut/beechgrove2001.htm

http://tbedwell.smugmug.com/gallery/230820#8958396

Just Yahoo/Google it ...

[35Pete]

Pete, the cite you posted was indeed very creepy. But you have to question the narrator's choice of language because it seemed like she was pointing out certain things like markers on chain link fences too close for parking markers. Could be used for lining up people. She was making some assumptions.

But of course the eltrical turnstiles, the new furnaces and the barbed wire fences pointed inwards, are strange and suspicious as well.

i dont know. interestinf find though

Everything is done for a reason when it costs money. The microwave communications tower, watch tower, helicopter socks, the one-way prison gates. You have to ask why would money be spent on that? Platitudes like "well the gov't does stupid things wasting money" are just comfort words. No need to reach a conclusion. Just ask why? Or ask yourself was the video itself faked? That'll be a problem because REX 84 documents have been leaked all over the internet verifying the existence of hundreds of camps around the country. You can only get away with that if they are literally hide in plain site.

Dunno, dunno. But it's worth asking questions.

[35Pete]

http://discuss.amtraktrains.com/lofiversion/index.php/t17066.html

http://lakeshoreservices.com/railnut/beechgrove2001.htm

http://tbedwell.smugmug.com/gallery/230820#8958396

Just Yahoo/Google it ...

Still, none of those pictures address the claims of the video. Two even demonstrate the barbed wire pointing inward towards the facility and one the one outer fence line near the high way points outward (as you would expect), contrasting with the interior fencing. There is barbed wire to keep people in, and barbed wire to keep people near the highway out. That's quite unusual.

Still, I'm open. But I haven't seen anything compelling yet. The video images don't appear to be doctored. If what's there is indeed there then doesn't that raise an eyebrow for you?

It would for me.

[35Pete]

You guys should google Rex 84 government documents as well as Army Civilian Inmate Work Camp Programs. Interesting stuff. Not reporter's info. Read it yourself.

[gilchristfan]

Still, none of those pictures address the claims of the video. Two even demonstrate the barbed wire pointing inward towards the facility and one the one outer fence line near the high way points outward (as you would expect), contrasting with the interior fencing. There is barbed wire to keep people in, and barbed wire to keep people near the highway out. That's quite unusual.

Still, I'm open. But I haven't seen anything compelling yet. The video images don't appear to be doctored. If what's there is indeed there then doesn't that raise an eyebrow for you?

It would for me.


The people in Indianapolis had a little fun with this topic a little over a year ago

http://www2.indystar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=166637

so did a few RR employees:

http://www.railroad.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=38048&sid=9f83f1b9f7f6b8073bf5ac4013e07aec

I doubt the video was altered (except the one with the Welcome to the Machine theme music)

It didn't have to be.

[WhiteRabbit]

Pete, I go the other way in the argument ... I am not one to put blame or tag something like this on anyone without compelling evidence. That video doesn't really prove anything ...

[35Pete]

Pete, I go the other way in the argument ... I am not one to put blame or tag something like this on anyone without compelling evidence. That video doesn't really prove anything ...

Well then. Perhaps the best thing for both of is to leave open the possibility. I guess I see it a little differently because I've read a lot into Rex 84.

[Green Lantern]

One of my political theory prof's favorite maxims:

If I hadn't believed it, I wouldn't have seen it.

[WhiteRabbit]

Well then. Perhaps the best thing for both of is to leave open the possibility. I guess I see it a little differently because I've read a lot into Rex 84.

Well, you used the words "It's legit" and backed it up with that video ... that video doesn't make a very strong case, I'm sure you can agree with that.

[WhiteRabbit]

One of my political theory prof's favorite maxims:

If I hadn't believed it, I wouldn't have seen it.

That train of thought seems like it could lead to paranoia. I see it true in some areas, but it doesn't seem to work out all the time.

[35Pete]

That train of thought seems like it could lead to paranoia. I see it true in some areas, but it doesn't seem to work out all the time.
Paranoia is based on non-factual delusions. If one sees something that doesn't make sense on the face of it, and hypothesizes another explanation, then that's not paranoia.

The word is overly abused to include anyone that entertains any theory that involves secrecy and duplicity, especially in the face of mass denial (see 9/11). In actuality, one would be INSANE not think that those very activities of secrecy and duplicity happen everyday. The question though is..."Which one's are the real threats worth investigating?"