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pigpen65
February 8th, 2008, 12:35:16 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/02/07/berkeley.protests/

Berkeley, the famously liberal college town in California, has taken aim at Marine recruiters, saying they are "not welcome in our city."

Berkeley passed a measure last week encouraging protesters to gather outside the Marine office.

Republican lawmakers in Washington fired back this week, threatening to take back more than $2 million of federal funding to the city as well as money designated for the University of California-Berkeley, the campus that became a haven of protests during the Vietnam War.

The battle erupted after the Berkeley City Council approved a measure last week urging the Marine recruiters to leave their downtown office.

"If recruiters choose to stay, they do so as uninvited and unwelcome intruders," the item says.

It goes on to say the council applauds residents and organizations that "volunteer to impede, passively or actively, by nonviolent means, the work of any military recruiting office located in the City of Berkeley." See photos of protesters camped outside Marine office »

Outside the Shattuck Avenue recruiting station earlier this week, a handful of protesters with the anti-war group Code Pink camped out, strumming a guitar as they sang anti-war songs and held signs against the Iraq war.

"Time to end the war, time to end the war, time to end the war right now," they sang to the beat of "I've Been Working on the Railroad." Watch protesters sing "I Ain't Afraid" »

One giant sign said, "No Military Predators in Our Town." Another message on a pink placard read, "Join the Marines. Travel to Exotic Lands. Meet Exciting and Unusual People -- And Kill Them."

Zanne Joi peered out from under her straw hat. "This Marine recruiting station is trying to recruit our youth to go to Iraq to kill and be killed. And we are against that," said Joi, a member of Code Pink Women for Peace.

"This is part of a multi-pronged effort to end this war."

Protester Sharon Adams added: "This recruiting station recruits people to go fight and then once they fight and they serve their country, our country doesn't take care of them. That's a shame."

But not everyone here supports the protesters. Watch young men confront protesters »

Forrest Smith, who described himself as a veteran of U.S. Special Forces, said his son recently returned from a tour in Iraq and his daughter served in Afghanistan.

"My position on this is the Marines are the best thing we have," said Smith, decked out in Army fatigues.

He blasted the City Council for its action. "It's clearly an abuse of power."

A group of young students who strolled down the sidewalk shared that sentiment. They derided one of the protesters who argued the United States was involved in an illegal war in Iraq.

"Where's the logic in that whatsoever?" one of the young men said. "That's our national security, and you're here protesting the Marines."

Another said, "It makes me sick. It makes me sick."

Gunnery Sgt. Pauline Franklin, a spokeswoman for the Marine Corps Recruiting Command, told CNN there is "no plan for that office to move."

She said recruiters are there to "provide information to qualified men and women who are looking for opportunities that they may benefit from by serving in the military."

"The Marine Corps is here to support and defend the Constitution of the United States, which does guarantee the freedom of speech," Franklin said. "In terms of the situation in Berkeley, the City Council and the protesters are exercising their right to do so."

In Washington, a group of Republican lawmakers have introduced the Semper Fi Act of 2008 -- named after the Marine motto -- to rescind more than $2 million of funds for Berkeley and transfer it to the Marine Corps.


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JayHall93
February 8th, 2008, 1:52:24 PM
The city is going to be disappointed. They have no control over restricting recruitment.

comericatigers
February 8th, 2008, 2:24:13 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/02/07/berkeley.protests/

Berkeley, the famously liberal college town in California, has taken aim at Marine recruiters, saying they are "not welcome in our city."

Berkeley passed a measure last week encouraging protesters to gather outside the Marine office.

Republican lawmakers in Washington fired back this week, threatening to take back more than $2 million of federal funding to the city as well as money designated for the University of California-Berkeley, the campus that became a haven of protests during the Vietnam War.

The battle erupted after the Berkeley City Council approved a measure last week urging the Marine recruiters to leave their downtown office.

"If recruiters choose to stay, they do so as uninvited and unwelcome intruders," the item says.

It goes on to say the council applauds residents and organizations that "volunteer to impede, passively or actively, by nonviolent means, the work of any military recruiting office located in the City of Berkeley." See photos of protesters camped outside Marine office »

Outside the Shattuck Avenue recruiting station earlier this week, a handful of protesters with the anti-war group Code Pink camped out, strumming a guitar as they sang anti-war songs and held signs against the Iraq war.

"Time to end the war, time to end the war, time to end the war right now," they sang to the beat of "I've Been Working on the Railroad." Watch protesters sing "I Ain't Afraid" »

One giant sign said, "No Military Predators in Our Town." Another message on a pink placard read, "Join the Marines. Travel to Exotic Lands. Meet Exciting and Unusual People -- And Kill Them."

Zanne Joi peered out from under her straw hat. "This Marine recruiting station is trying to recruit our youth to go to Iraq to kill and be killed. And we are against that," said Joi, a member of Code Pink Women for Peace.

"This is part of a multi-pronged effort to end this war."

Protester Sharon Adams added: "This recruiting station recruits people to go fight and then once they fight and they serve their country, our country doesn't take care of them. That's a shame."

But not everyone here supports the protesters. Watch young men confront protesters »

Forrest Smith, who described himself as a veteran of U.S. Special Forces, said his son recently returned from a tour in Iraq and his daughter served in Afghanistan.

"My position on this is the Marines are the best thing we have," said Smith, decked out in Army fatigues.

He blasted the City Council for its action. "It's clearly an abuse of power."

A group of young students who strolled down the sidewalk shared that sentiment. They derided one of the protesters who argued the United States was involved in an illegal war in Iraq.

"Where's the logic in that whatsoever?" one of the young men said. "That's our national security, and you're here protesting the Marines."

Another said, "It makes me sick. It makes me sick."

Gunnery Sgt. Pauline Franklin, a spokeswoman for the Marine Corps Recruiting Command, told CNN there is "no plan for that office to move."

She said recruiters are there to "provide information to qualified men and women who are looking for opportunities that they may benefit from by serving in the military."

"The Marine Corps is here to support and defend the Constitution of the United States, which does guarantee the freedom of speech," Franklin said. "In terms of the situation in Berkeley, the City Council and the protesters are exercising their right to do so."

In Washington, a group of Republican lawmakers have introduced the Semper Fi Act of 2008 -- named after the Marine motto -- to rescind more than $2 million of funds for Berkeley and transfer it to the Marine Corps.


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Hey Pete, your girls Code Pink are back at it.

35Pete
February 8th, 2008, 7:09:04 PM
I love it. Strangle their supply of cannon fodder and stop the war!

pmoon6
February 8th, 2008, 8:31:55 PM
Another updated version of previously posted material.

pmoon6
February 8th, 2008, 8:36:42 PM
I love it. Strangle their supply of cannon fodder and stop the war!If someone chooses to join, why would you stop them?

Don't they have the right to listen to both perspectives and serve or not?

Who are you to make that decision?

Just because you're a ****, doesn't mean everyone else is.

35Pete
February 8th, 2008, 8:38:02 PM
If someone chooses to join, why would you stop them?

Don't they have the right to listen to both perspectives and serve or not?

Who are you to make that decision?

Just because you're a ****, doesn't mean everyone else is.

You are. Can't I assume everyone is then?

The reality is because innocents are being slaughtered. Do you get that part of the equation?

comericatigers
February 8th, 2008, 8:39:32 PM
If someone chooses to join, why would you stop them?

Don't they have the right to listen to both perspectives and serve or not?

Who are you to make that decision?

Just because you're a ****, doesn't mean everyone else is.

You are. Can't I assume everyone is then?

The reality is because innocents are being slaughtered. Do you get that part of the equation?

Round 1.

"Let's get it on!"

35Pete
February 8th, 2008, 8:43:02 PM
Round 1.

"Let's get it on!"

For your amusement? Puuullleaaase.

We're both GRADE AAA smack talkers. We don't do it for your entertainment.

pmoon6
February 8th, 2008, 8:46:50 PM
You are. Can't I assume everyone is then?

The reality is because innocents are being slaughtered. Do you get that part of the equation?Really?

You can assume anything you want.

Reality is based on one's own perception.

Your's is somewhat skewed.

pmoon6
February 9th, 2008, 3:05:38 PM
For your amusement? Puuullleaaase.

We're both GRADE AAA smack talkers. We don't do it for your entertainment.Don't want to play monkey to my organ grinder, Eh?:D

(Oh, that may be a Freudian slip, another unintentional gay comment.)

shiva2999
February 9th, 2008, 3:20:07 PM
Really?

You can assume anything you want.

Reality is based on one's own perception.

Your's is somewhat skewed.

Reality is reality.

Our opinions of reality are skewed by our perceptions.

Either OJ did it or he didn't.

Our perceptions have nothing to do with the reality.

coryjd
February 9th, 2008, 7:42:36 PM
You are. Can't I assume everyone is then?

The reality is because innocents are being slaughtered. Do you get that part of the equation?

Last I checked, they're not forced to sign on the dotted line, right?

K-Gun
February 9th, 2008, 9:34:24 PM
Reality is reality.

Our opinions of reality are skewed by our perceptions.

Either OJ did it or he didn't.

Our perceptions have nothing to do with the reality.

Does the sun revolve around the earth, or does the earth revolve around the sun?