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admarc
January 18th, 2008, 9:17:43 PM
Bills Mock 1.0<o:p></o:p>
Round 1 #11 (11)Keith Rivers, LB, USC (http://www.buffalorange.com/showthread.php?t=114517) LB 6'-3" 220 Senior
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Video: #1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXYE-hXNN-c)#2 (http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=en-US&brand=&vid=0ced5af5-9c7a-431e-b391-44651166ecb3)<o:p></o:p>
Rivers is a 3 down LB who is equally adept at stuffing the run, dropping back in coverage and rushing the QB on a blitz. He’s smart, athletic and a leader on the field. He’s a perfect fit for the Bills at Will because of his quickness and exceptional coverage ability. He can shut down TE’s and backs coming out of the backfield. He also has exceptional range that enables him to pursues from sideline to sideline. He can over pursue at times and isn’t the strongest backer at the point of attack. He has a very high floor and is as close to being a can’t miss prospect as there is in the ’08 draft. He was very productive at USC. <o:p></o:p>
Poz, Crow and Rivers would make for a dynamic young LB squad that would be the cornerstone of the Bills Defense for years to come.<o:p></o:p>
He projects to be a top 15 pick.<o:p></o:p>
Other possibilities: Malcolm Kelly WR (http://www.buffalorange.com/showthread.php?t=116203), Sedrick Ellis, DT USC (http://www.buffalorange.com/showthread.php?t=116301), Fred Davis, TE<o:p></o:p>
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Round 2 #10 (41)Adarius Bowman (http://www.buffalorange.com/showthread.php?t=115604) WR 6’-4” 220 lbs
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Bowman is a big physical receiver with good speed and great hands. He’s not afraid to go over the middle and is the best blocking receiver in the draft. He has soft hands and is capable of making spectacular one handed grabs. He has good leaping ability and does a nice job beating single coverage with double moves and head fakes. With his size and leaping ability he is an excellent red zone target. He is a bit tight hipped and struggles to scoop down for passes. He was dismissed from North Carolina after being arrested on marijuana charges which were later dropped. By several accounts, he has used the experience to motivate himself to get serious about football and has matured into a team leader. <o:p></o:p>
He is the perfect complement to Evans and would instantly improve the Bills red zone offense. He could even line up at H-Back. Next to helping improve the efficiency in the red zone, his downfield blocking would help Bills backs break more big plays.<o:p></o:p>
He projects to the late first to mid second round. His combine and pre-draft physicals will determine if he can sneak into the 1<sup>st</sup> round. The depth at WR this year gives him a chance to slip to the Bills in the 2<sup>nd</sup> round.

Struggled early senior bowl week but picked things up by mid week. 2 of the 3 Senior Bowl QBs on his team called him the best player on the squad.
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Round 3 #08 (71) Dre Moore (http://www.buffalorange.com/showthread.php?t=116307)DT6'-4" 311 Senior<v:shape id="_x0000_i1033" type="#_x0000_t75" style="width: 348pt; height: 258pt; visibility: visible;">
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Moore is a 1 technique run stuffer with the ability to penetrate and make plays in the backfield. When he plays with leverage he can dominate and collapse the pocket. He pops up out of his stance when tired and only started playing Football as a senior in high school but has gotten consistently better every year leading up to a break out campaign where he led the Terps with 6 sacks, this year. He has great athleticism for a man his size is only scratching the surface on his potential.

Drew some draft blog criticism after reportedly not looking fit during his senior bowl weigh in, but then went out and dominated on the field during practice showing great power, punch and quickness. <o:p></o:p>

Round 3 #09 (72) Brad Cottam (http://www.buffalorange.com/showthread.php?p=1732873) TE 6’-8” 270<o:p></o:p>
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Cottam has had an injury riddled career at Tennessee and has missed most of this season after suffering a wrist injury before the season began. He had a couple of big plays in the last few games including a TD vs. Wisconsin in their Bowl Game. Despite his lack of production, Cottam has incredible athletic ability for his size. He's 6-8 270 and runs in the 4.7 range.

His off season workouts will go a long way to determine where he slots, but he is really an interesting prospect. He had an impressive Senior Bowl Week that should move him up draft boards, including mine. I had him going in the 5th but now move him up to the 3rd round, replacing Cody Wallace who was completely exposed in Mobile.

Round 4 #15 (110) Owen Schmitt (http://www.buffalorange.com/showthread.php?t=128002) FB 6’-2” 250<o:p></o:p>
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Schmitt is a throwback glass eater that will blow open holes for Lynch. With Wallace added to the middle of the line, Schmitt and Lynch the Bills will have gone a long way to being a smash mouth team that doesn’t care how many guys you put in the box.

If someone like him doesn't fit your system, change your system.<o:p></o:p>

Round 5 #09 (135) Fernando Velasco (http://www.buffalorange.com/showthread.php?t=130102) C Georgia 6-3 318
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A big strong drive blocking prospect who anchors well and has a great punch. He struggles in space and needs to improve his footwork in pass protection. He lacks athleticism and has difficulty sliding, but can be dominant in a power blocking scheme. He is reported to have an exceptional work ethic and high character.
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Round 5 #13 (139)Darnell Terrell (http://www.buffalorange.com/showthread.php?t=116658) CB Missouri 6-3 205 4.45<v:shapetype id="_x0000_t75" coordsize="21600,21600" o:spt="75" o:preferrelative="t" path="m@4@5l@4@11@9@11@9@5xe" filled="f" stroked="f">
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Round 6 #13 (170) Kevin O’Connell (http://www.buffalorange.com/showthread.php?t=128854) San Diego State 6'-6" 228 4.68
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I really like this kid but his footwork needs a lot of work. He has prototypical size, intelligence and athleticism. He's a bit of a project but I think in the right system and coaching he is a potential steal. He is 6'-6" 228 lbs. The ball comes out of his hands quick and he can fling it down field. If he can do a better job setting his feet on his throws he'll greatly improve his accuracy. He reminds me of Kevin Kolb, who I liked coming out last year (big, strong, quick release with footwork that needs work). He's also a real smart, well spoken kid. Worth a serious look in round 5, where he is currently projected to go.<o:p></o:p>

Round 7 #12 (201) Jameel McClain (http://www.buffalorange.com/showthread.php?t=118593) DE Syracuse
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Round 7 #17 (206) Joe Fields FS Syracuse
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<o:p> </o:p><o:p></o:p>Another homer pick to wrap things up. I actually would like to see more Orange and Bulls players brought in to Buffalo, either through the draft or as UDFA. Fields would have a shot to make the roster as a special teams performer and for depth in the secondary.

TigerJ
January 18th, 2008, 9:20:45 PM
No complaints about that one.

JLB
January 18th, 2008, 9:24:08 PM
admarc report to One Bills Drive immediately.

love those picks!!

the size wow!! :rockon:

ICRockets
January 18th, 2008, 9:24:33 PM
This is a draft that would really fill our holes extremely well. Great work, admarc!

metsjr25
January 18th, 2008, 9:44:57 PM
great job! That would fix many of our teams issues and also allow us not to drop a major amount of cash in FA

Patrick!
January 18th, 2008, 9:53:21 PM
in before "SCHMITT WILL GO IN THE FIRST ROUND BECAUSE HE HAS SEXY HAIR!!!!!!!!!!!!" post.

I love that mock, but prefer Hardy over Bowman.

LotteryPick
January 18th, 2008, 10:13:05 PM
Really like the draft.

Not 100% sold on Bowman being better than Jordy Nelson or Early Doucett, but he's good.

Also, what's the deal with this Darnell Terrell kid from Mizzou? Don't know much about him but a CB that is 6'3" and runs a 4.4? That's incredible!

FknGvna
January 18th, 2008, 11:00:26 PM
Ads world, Ads world. Party time. Excellent.

admarc
January 19th, 2008, 10:31:22 AM
Really like the draft.

Not 100% sold on Bowman being better than Jordy Nelson or Early Doucett, but he's good.

Also, what's the deal with this Darnell Terrell kid from Mizzou? Don't know much about him but a CB that is 6'3" and runs a 4.4? That's incredible!

Terrel was a JUCO transfer and is a late bloomer so he is flying a bit under the radar. He can get burned while playing man due to some poor tech and over aggression. He's a downhill physical corner who loves coming up in run support. He had over 70 tackles as a Junior. His tackles were down this year but that may be because he was thrown at much less. Bottom line is he is still unpolished but has all of the physical tools you look for in a cover 2 Corner.

coastal
January 19th, 2008, 11:12:24 AM
not crazy about the Rivers pick... watch the long Illini TD run in this year's Rose Bowl.

It was all Rivers.

The last thing we need is another football player that has a knack for helping the other team spring the big one.

jaymitch84
January 19th, 2008, 11:15:50 AM
Two absolute STEALS in Round 7! :D

I really like the Keith Rivers pick...whenever I get around to doing another mock I'm pretty sure he is the guy I was going to switch to.

And Brad Cottam...6'8! Now that's a red zone target.

admarc
January 19th, 2008, 11:27:06 AM
not crazy about the Rivers pick... watch the long Illini TD run in this year's Rose Bowl.

It was all Rivers.

The last thing we need is another football player that has a knack for helping the other team spring the big one.

He reacted to the QB thinking he kept it. He mis-read the play, it happens.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfxPbfLTxIY

admarc
January 19th, 2008, 11:28:53 AM
Two absolute STEALS in Round 7! :D

I really like the Keith Rivers pick...whenever I get around to doing another mock I'm pretty sure he is the guy I was going to switch to.

And Brad Cottam...6'8! Now that's a red zone target.

I thought you'd like those 2 picks for some reason. ;) Actually, McClain is reportedly turning some heads at the East-West Shrine practices.

wpod
January 19th, 2008, 11:33:14 AM
Great draft, admarc. My main question is - what do you think they'll do in Free Agency (I presume this draft assumes nothing in Free Agency, which is fair)?

Cottam is an interesting pick; if I was going to wait that long to take TE he would be my pick, too - this is an example where I think what they do in FA would allow them to pick a TE earlier. You have to be concerned about that injury history and how little actual receiving production he had in college.

Excellent "naive" (i.e., no Free Agents) mock draft.

LotteryPick
January 19th, 2008, 11:34:29 AM
I'm big on this terrell kid. Size and speed in that combination are amazingly hard to find in a DB. He's a guy that could potentially (if he learns better technique) stay with the bigger receivers like Moss and Burress.

Don't know enough about Wallace either, but I watch A&M games and they run the ball very well.

gilchristfan
January 19th, 2008, 11:41:25 AM
The BPA in a position of need is followed again to perfection. I wouldn't mind the Rivers pick at all. One question, I"ve seen him listed at 200 and at 238? Any idea how much he weighs?

In the second, I take it Jordy wasn't available?

admarc
January 19th, 2008, 11:43:52 AM
Great draft, admarc. My main question is - what do you think they'll do in Free Agency (I presume this draft assumes nothing in Free Agency, which is fair)?

Cottam is an interesting pick; if I was going to wait that long to take TE he would be my pick, too - this is an example where I think what they do in FA would allow them to pick a TE earlier. You have to be concerned about that injury history and how little actual receiving production he had in college.

Excellent "naive" (i.e., no Free Agents) mock draft. I pretty much assumed no free agents, but then was a little optimistic that Dre Moore will be there in the 3rd. I also didn't add any compensation picks or an extra pick for Losman. Figure those picks will weigh into moving up potentially (even though I know you can't use comp picks in trades).

I believe the Bills will likely address WR in free agency, so the Bowman pick would probably change. I'd like to add a DE somewhere so if they do sign a FA WR I would substitute Chris Ellis (http://www.buffalorange.com/showthread.php?t=115291)for Bowman in the 2nd round.

coastal
January 19th, 2008, 11:46:23 AM
He reacted to the QB thinking he kept it. He mis-read the play, it happens.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfxPbfLTxIY

just watching the play again... 84 appeared to be assigned contain on the quarterback.

He had position and no blockers to deal with.

The QB knew it and did the right thing by handing the ball off.

Rivers job was to control the gap between 84 and the DT (who in fairness to Rivers was badly beaten).

Rivers took a step to the right and badly whiffed.

jaymitch84
January 19th, 2008, 11:55:35 AM
I'm pretty sure every player in this draft has mis-read plays and missed assignments on their college resume.

admarc
January 19th, 2008, 12:01:01 PM
The BPA in a position of need is followed again to perfection. I wouldn't mind the Rivers pick at all. One question, I"ve seen him listed at 200 and at 238? Any idea how much he weighs?

In the second, I take it Jordy wasn't available? I definitely think he's closer to the 238 than 200. NFL draft scout (http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/profile.php?pyid=33617) just updated his profile and lists him at 235.

I could live with moving Moore up to the 2nd round and taking Jordy in the 3rd.

coastal
January 19th, 2008, 12:02:49 PM
I'm pretty sure every player in this draft has mis-read plays and missed assignments on their college resume.

True enough... but I am sick of the promise of undersized, sideline to sideline, super athletes.

We need to draft football players.

Not saying that Rivers isn't one of them.

The question is whether he is a Timmons or an Ernie Sims.

Right now I don't know and plays like that make me very wary.

jaymitch84
January 19th, 2008, 12:08:09 PM
Is 6'3, 235 undersized?

coastal
January 19th, 2008, 12:09:29 PM
Is that 235 verified?

Merk
January 19th, 2008, 12:14:27 PM
Weights wont really be verified until the combine

GvilleBill
January 20th, 2008, 5:11:01 PM
Very nice mock Admarc. I would be stoked if we came out of the draft with that.
One question though, was Ellis available at 11? I'm torn on where I'm leaning.

admarc
January 20th, 2008, 6:02:54 PM
Very nice mock Admarc. I would be stoked if we came out of the draft with that.
One question though, was Ellis available at 11? I'm torn on where I'm leaning. No, I am assuming he was gone. If he's there, I absolutely would take him over Rivers or anyone else in the draft with the possible exception of Dorsey.

Buffalo1
January 20th, 2008, 6:08:44 PM
like the draft hope it works out that way.

GvilleBill
January 20th, 2008, 11:23:48 PM
Your mock was very inspiring when it came time to finish up my own. Can't wait, I love this time of year!

JimKelly12203
January 21st, 2008, 11:31:40 AM
I'd rather have the samoan LB from US (ray maluga?). But i guess he's not entering the draft htis year. Either way, you can't miss with any of those USC LBs.

That draft would make me very happy. Good job Ad.

admarc
January 21st, 2008, 7:03:04 PM
Is that 235 verified?

Rivers weighed in at 236 at the Senior Bowl today:

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/features/seniorbowl/reports/weighin.html

• Keith Rivers USC 6017 236 33 103/8
Notes: Impressive. Cut, strong and athletic.

FknGvna
January 21st, 2008, 9:09:16 PM
Dre Moore
Maryland

6041

307

333/8

102/8
Notes: Two words: Man Boobs.

admarc
January 21st, 2008, 10:59:58 PM
Dre Moore
Maryland

6041

307

333/8

102/8
Notes: Two words: Man Boobs. Yeah, sounds like he failed the eye test. At least we know he's not a steroid user.

The Chosen
January 22nd, 2008, 1:05:54 PM
I really like this mock. It addresses all of our needs. I am becoming more and more a Rivers guy with our first pick. He would be a big upgrade over Ellison. Not sold or opposed to Bowman. Moore is a guy I want in Buffalo, exactly what we are missing up front. Wallace and Schmitt could possibly start from day 1, making them steals in my book if we were to get them there. Cottam is interesting. Terrell is a guy I had marked as a Bill for a few weeks now. He would be the guy covering Moss and other larger receivers in the red zone. The rest of your draft makes sense as well. Again, excellent job.

ksl66
January 23rd, 2008, 2:14:17 AM
Given the first two days of the Senior Bowl practices I think we might want to look again at a few of those picks: I was really high on Moore and Bowman too, but they seem to be the two biggest disappiontments so far this week.

Here is my second seven round Bills mock
1. Keith Rivers WLB USC
2. Patrick Lee CB Auburn
3a. John Carlson TE Notre Dame
3b. Demario Pressley DT North Carolina St
4. Jordy Nelson WR Kansas
5a. John Sullivan C Notre Dame
5b. Josh Johnson QB San Diego
6. Jerome Felton FB Furman
7a. Tim Bugg LS Indiana
7b. Trevor Scott DE Buffalo

admarc
January 23rd, 2008, 10:17:45 AM
Given the first two days of the Senior Bowl practices I think we might want to look again at a few of those picks: I was really high on Moore and Bowman too, but they seem to be the two biggest disappointments so far this week.

Here is my second seven round Bills mock
1. Keith Rivers WLB USC
2. Patrick Lee CB Auburn
3a. John Carlson TE Notre Dame
3b. Demario Pressley DT North Carolina St
4. Jordy Nelson WR Kansas
5a. John Sullivan C Notre Dame
5b. Josh Johnson QB San Diego
6. Jerome Felton FB Furman
7a. Tim Bugg LS Indiana
7b. Trevor Scott DE Buffalo

Yes, they have both been disappointing. Even Wallace was said to be having trouble in anchoring against the bigger bull rushers. I still trust what I saw in games and will base my opinion more on that, than a couple of bad plays or days in practice. However, those three do need to step it up or they will start dropping like stones on not only our own draft boards but for real on NFL team's boards.

treydawg
January 23rd, 2008, 10:28:14 AM
True enough... but I am sick of the promise of undersized, sideline to sideline, super athletes.

We need to draft football players.

Not saying that Rivers isn't one of them.

The question is whether he is a Timmons or an Ernie Sims.

Right now I don't know and plays like that make me very wary.

Dan Connor.

coastal
January 23rd, 2008, 5:48:47 PM
Bowman is dropping everything.

Dre Moore has tits.

Cody Wallace is getting steam-rolled.

methinks its time to rethink.

admarc
January 23rd, 2008, 6:23:08 PM
Bowman is dropping everything.

Dre Moore has tits.

Cody Wallace is getting steam-rolled.

methinks its time to rethink.

I still like Bowman and will wait to see how the rest of the week and offseason goes. I am not going to give up on a kid who had a couple of productive years in college because he had a rough two days of practice.

Moore looked crappy with his shirt off, but its being reported he looks like a stud on the field, which is what I saw when I watched him play. Imagine how good he will be when he hits the weight room.

The reports about Wallace are surprising to me and I do think I may have to re-evaluate if its true. When I watched him play, I didn't see him have any trouble anchoring but apparently he is getting exposed in the 1 on 1s.

Mike Pollak has looked good and has the frame to add some bulk. He could be a possible replacement if Wallace continues to get overpowered.

coastal
January 23rd, 2008, 6:48:41 PM
just bs'ing anyways admarc.

Adarius has a solid book of work at Oklahoma State.

just like Moore with the Terps.

a couple of practice drops and a questionable physique shouldn't erase one bit of that work.

Now in the case of where Wallace is getting man-handled... that certainly is something of significance.

admarc
January 24th, 2008, 12:33:52 AM
After watching a couple of hours of the senior bowl practices I am ready to pull the plug on my Wallace pick. He was really badly exposed in 1 on 1 drills this week. I'll wait to see the rest of the week before considering a switch in the 2nd for Bowman.

I am even more convinced about Rivers, Moore (man boobs and all), Schmitt and Cottam.

admarc
January 26th, 2008, 11:35:22 AM
I updated the draft slightly by dropping Cody Wallace, who had to hurt himself more than any other prospect in the draft this week. He was completely exposed in one on one drills against the stronger DT's. I moved Brad Cottam up from the 5th to Wallace's spot in the 3rd round. I believe he will continue to rocket up draft boards this offseason.

I added Fernando Velasco, a big drive blocking Center from Georgia, into the 5th round.

I am probably being a little stubborn keeping Bowman, who struggled earlier in the week, but he reportedly improved as he got more comfortable as the week went on. I liked that both Henne and Flacco, when asked who was the best player on the North squad, answered Bowman. His stiff hips and occasional drops may prevent him from being a number one at the next level, but as a #2 he will be able to create mismatches and will be a force in the redzone, which is precisely what the Bills need .

wpod
January 26th, 2008, 12:10:20 PM
I agree with your recent changes. However, I like Mike McGlynn even more than Velasco at OC. And aren't you just a little worried about multiple scouting reports, including one I read from an unnamed Pac-10 HC, saying Rivers has questionable football instincts and benefited from playing behind a superior D-line? They scared me right off the dude. I go WLB in FA and trade up to draft Ellis, and I don't look back.

admarc
January 26th, 2008, 12:25:42 PM
I agree with your recent changes. However, I like Mike McGlynn even more than Velasco at OC. And aren't you just a little worried about multiple scouting reports, including one I read from an unnamed Pac-10 HC, saying Rivers has questionable football instincts and benefited from playing behind a superior D-line? They scared me right off the dude. I go WLB in FA and trade up to draft Ellis, and I don't look back.

I saw enough of Rivers over the past two seasons to question the scouting reports not the prospect. I imagine what the coach was talking about was that Rivers sometimes gets caught because he'll react to the movement of a fb or lineman to try to anticipate a play and is thus susceptible to getting beat on misdirection and fakes from time to time. However, that's what a LB is trained to do. In the pro's there is much more film study which will help him with his reads to sniff out those fakes.

You would hear no complaints here if the Bills somehow end up with Ellis, but for this mock being so early I assumed no free agent pick ups, no comp picks, no extra picks from trades and no trades up or down to keep it simple.

mikgaes
January 26th, 2008, 12:52:47 PM
1.1 looks great admarc. Let's put you into the Bills war room.

nukedawg
January 26th, 2008, 7:44:09 PM
After a poor senior week Bowman might slip into the 2nd. Cottam had a TD in the senior Bowl. This does add size to the receiving corp. And helps in the red zone.

LotteryPick
January 26th, 2008, 8:24:10 PM
I think the Bowman pick is still suspect. I think we gotta look at Jordy Nelson with that pic.

I, like wpod, have been touting McGlynn for the last few days. I think people are sick of the two of us talking about him, but the fact that he is an animal and can long-snap is too good to pass up for me.

nukedawg
January 26th, 2008, 9:08:12 PM
I think the Bowman pick is still suspect. I think we gotta look at Jordy Nelson with that pic.



I liked Nelson during the week. But, didn't show much in the game. Right now I think he can be picked in the 3rd.

nukedawg
January 26th, 2008, 9:10:04 PM
Bowman is dropping everything.

Dre Moore has tits.



Man boobs or not. He's hard to block.

ksl66
January 26th, 2008, 10:02:07 PM
I would go with More in the 3rd, man boobs and all. Ater hearing some of the intial reports, I was scared off, but at this point he looks like a he could be a huge help along side Tripplett and McCargo. ADMARC my only issue with 1.1 is that I would like to see them go CB in the second, I prefer P. Lee of Auburn and then look DT, TE in the third and in a class this deep at WR, there will still be quality WRs in the fourth round, besides we are all righting off some of these WRs that are 510, 511 and 6. If the Bills address that big WR need in FA then that would open the door for some guys like Andre Caldwell, Dorien Bryant, Harry Douglas, Donnie Avery and Lavelle Hawkins in that third to fourth round range. lets face it 511 is not too small to play WR in this league.

jaymitch84
January 28th, 2008, 10:45:20 AM
http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft08/insider/columns/story?columnist=mcshay_todd&id=3217475&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab3pos2

Everyone's favorite writer Todd McShay says that Senior Bowl week dropped Bowman down to a third round pick.

Seems ridiculous to me that one week of practice for a bonus game for seniors could drop a guy who was once considered a first round pick down to the third round...

treydawg
January 28th, 2008, 10:55:04 AM
It isn't the first time it's happened. I wasn't a big fan of Bowman before the week and I am certainly not one now.

admarc
January 28th, 2008, 10:59:00 AM
http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft08/insider/columns/story?columnist=mcshay_todd&id=3217475&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab3pos2

Everyone's favorite writer Todd McShay says that Senior Bowl week dropped Bowman down to a third round pick.

Seems ridiculous to me that one week of practice for a bonus game for seniors could drop a guy who was once considered a first round pick down to the third round... Consistancy has been a knock on Bowman so this week will hurt him. I don't think the double catch in the endzone that was ruled out of bounds helped him either. This is a deep draft for players like him so he'll need a solid combine and private workouts to re-establish himself.

I think he probaly has blown any chance of slipping into the 1st round, but still see him as a second rounder.

FknGvna
January 28th, 2008, 11:57:27 AM
Better to stay on the sideline than to run a pattern and remove all doubt.

And Moore might be strong, but Laws has a complete repetoire(sp). Laws and Rubin stood out to me.

Buffalo1
January 28th, 2008, 6:36:14 PM
My Updated mock:

1 Miami -DE Chris Long
2 St. Louis - OT Jake Long
3 Oakland - RB Darren McFadden
4 Atlanta - QB Matt Ryan
5 Kansas City - DT Glenn Dorsey
6 New York Jets - DE Vernon Gholston
7 New England (from San Francisco) - LB Dan Connor
8 Baltimore - QB Andre Woodson
9 Cincinnati - DT Sedrick Ellis
10 New Orleans – CB Mike Jenkins
11 Buffalo- OLB Keith Rivers
12 Denver - FS Ken Phillips
13 Carolina - OT Ryan Clady
14 Chicago – QB Brian Brohm
15 Detroit - OT Sam Baker
16 Arizona – CB Leodis McKelvin
17 Minnesota- DE Calais Campbell
18 Houston –RB Jonathan Stewart
19 Philadelphia - CB Reggie Smith (can also play safety)
20 Tampa Bay- RB Rashard Mendenhall
21 Washington - CB Aqib Talib (can also play safety)
22 Dallas (from Cleveland) - WR DeSean Jackson
23 Pittsburgh –OT Jeff Otah (could be losing Faneca and Starks)
24 Tennessee – CB Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie (he’s rising)
25 Seattle – TE Fred Davis (Pollard is awful and lost the playoff game by himself)
26 Jacksonville –DE Quinton Groves
27 San Diego - DT Kentwan Balmer (help for J-Will, he can’t do it all forever)
28 Dallas –RB Felix Jones (JJ supporting his alma mater)
29 San Francisco (from Indianapolis)– WR Malcolm Kelly
30 Green Bay – CB Antoine Cason
31 New York Giants - WR Mario Manningham


Round 2: - Buffalo drafts TE Martellus Bennett/Fred Davis
Round 3: - Buffalo drafts WR Early Doucet/Bowman/Bennett/ Nelson
Round 3b: - Buffalo drafts CB Porter/Dwight Lowery/Godfrey
Round 4: - Buffalo drafts FB Schmitt/Hillis
Round 5: - Buffalo drafts C Adam Spieker/Legursky/Sullivan
Round 5: - Buffalo drafts DT James McClinton/Marcus Harrison
Round 6: - Buffalo drafts DE Greyson Gunheim/Jeremy Thompson
Round 7: - Buffalo drafts LB JoLonn Dunbar/ Jordan Dizon
Round 7: - Buffalo drafts CB Jack Ikegwuonu