Your first Bills mock of the season

[Merk]

Yea its early but who cares, its not like anyone has accurately mocked the draft in the middle of Jan, so throw them up there! I wanna see as many Peoples Mocks as possible in this thread.
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This will obviously change about a million times before the draft. But who cares Mock season is in full effect now that the declare day has passed .

1.Miami- DE Chris Long, Virgina:
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2.St.Louis- T Jake Long, Mich
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3.Oakland- DT Glenn Dorsey, LSU
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4.Atlanta- QB Matt Ryan, BC
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5.KC- DT Sedrick.Ellis, USC
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6.NYJ- RB D.McFadden, Arkansas
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7.NE- CB Mike Jenkins S.Florida (I really considered Gholston here too)
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8.Balt- OT R.Clady, Boise State
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9.Cincy- DE V.Gholston, OSU
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10.N.O.- S K.Phillips, Miami
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11.Buffalo-CB A.Cason, Arizona: Tough choice here because you really could make a case for a number of posistion on with the players left on the board. This is more of who I think they will go w/ rather than who I would go with. Personally I would really consider rolling the dice w/ a guy like D.Harvey from Florida. I like Cason though he is a big physical CB who fits the C2 mold and always seems to come up with the big play when needed.
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Round 2- WR Andre Caldwell, Florida
Round 3- OLB Erin Henderson, Maryland
Round 3- DT Dre Moore, Maryland
Round 4- TE J.Finley, Texas
Round 5- C Kory Lichtensteiger, Bowling Green
Round 5- FB O.Schmitt, West Virgina
Round 6- DE Chase Ortiz, TCU
Round 7- G S.Tevaga, UCLA
Round 7- LB/ST’er Curtis Johnson, Clark Atlanta

[The Chosen]

You really think Schmitt will last until the 5th?

[stepsukie]

Jermichael!

[admarc]

I finished up my mock last night and will post it tonight.

I also have the Bills taking Dre Moore in the 3rd, although I am starting to think that may be too optimistic. I think he will have a solid senior bowl week and combine and will likely jump up on many draft boards. His athleticism for his size is pretty impressive and his technique has gotten better every year. I love his potential.

I also have Schmitt, but in the 4th round not the 5th.

Finley in the 4th would be a solid pick up although until he bulks up he's better suited as an h-back, which the Bills may be moving away from. However, he has the frame to add bulk and at 20 he is just scratching the surface of his ability. The 4th round would be a perfect time to grab him if he is still there.

I like Cason and agree he is a perfect fit for the cover 2, but I am not sure the Bills will go CB in the 1st. I think they are happy with Jabari and Terrence. I do believe they will add a corner in the draft, just not a first rounder. I think there will be other more attractive options to them at 11.

Henderson and Ortiz are all solid picks and great fits for the Bills. I wanted to check out Lichtensteiger at Center in Bowling Green's Bowl game but didn't see him. Was he hurt or playing another position?

[LotteryPick]

I think McFadden goes to low in this draft. He is the clear best player available and OAK and ATL both have RB concerns. Fargas is probably not a go-to guy and Dunn's career is on the downhill. I think McFadden goes to one of them.

As for the Bills. I think they do need a CB, but I think Cason is a stretch right here. I think we could wait til the second round and possibly get Talib from Kansas or that guy with the funky name from Troy. Not to mention Jenkins' counterpart at S.Fla was good and could eb a 3rd rounder.

Also, on the WR note, do you really like Caldwell more than a guy like Doucett or Jordy Nelson who could be around at that same pick? Florida WRs have a mixed track record in the NFL (Reidel Anthony, Reche Caldwell, Dallas Baker, Jabar Gaffney, Jaquez Green, Chad Jackson, Travis Taylor). Some of these guys were highly regarded and did next to nothing in the NFL.

[Merk]

You really think Schmitt will last until the 5th?


Yes, in the end he is a blocking FB first and those guys really dont get considered untill around the 4th

[Merk]

I think McFadden goes to low in this draft. He is the clear best player available and OAK and ATL both have RB concerns. Fargas is probably not a go-to guy and Dunn's career is on the downhill. I think McFadden goes to one of them.

As for the Bills. I think they do need a CB, but I think Cason is a stretch right here. I think we could wait til the second round and possibly get Talib from Kansas or that guy with the funky name from Troy. Not to mention Jenkins' counterpart at S.Fla was good and could eb a 3rd rounder.

Also, on the WR note, do you really like Caldwell more than a guy like Doucett or Jordy Nelson who could be around at that same pick? Florida WRs have a mixed track record in the NFL (Reidel Anthony, Reche Caldwell, Dallas Baker, Jabar Gaffney, Jaquez Green, Chad Jackson, Travis Taylor). Some of these guys were highly regarded and did next to nothing in the NFL.


I dont think the Raiders are planning on going RB b/c they have Jordon, Bush, and Fargas. They might add one later but I think they will be more focused on how to replace Sapp and add to a weak DL

Atlanta may consider him but when you dont a QB on your roster that is considered a starter in this league its hard to start passing them. I see the Jets making the movve up to get McFadden but I dont do trades in my mocks

Another interesting note is that not all the experts are in agreement that McFadden is the best player on the board and in some cases even the best RB. Both Gil Brandt and Ron Wolf on sirius NFL radio said that they have Stewert from Oregon ranked ahead of McFadden. Dont really agree with them but I repsect there opinion very much so

On the WR's, Doucet wont be around in the second Nelson will be there but he will prob make it into the third. I also dont agree w/ the argument that you shouldnt take a Player because previous players have failed from that posistion at that school. Mich QB do not exactly have a glowing record in the NFL over the past decade or so but arguably the best QB in the game and maybe ever is from there. Its best to judge them as individules and not as a group

[BuffaloSoldier2]

Yea its early but who cares, its not like anyone has accurately mocked the draft in the middle of Jan, so throw them up there! I wanna see as many Peoples Mocks as possible in this thread.
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This will obviously change about a million times before the draft. But who cares Mock season is in full effect now that the declare day has passed .

1.Miami- DE Chris Long, Virgina:
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2.St.Louis- T Jake Long, Mich
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3.Oakland- DT Glenn Dorsey, LSU
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4.Atlanta- QB Matt Ryan, BC
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5.KC- DT Sedrick.Ellis, USC
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6.NYJ- RB D.McFadden, Arkansas
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7.NE- CB Mike Jenkins S.Florida (I really considered Gholston here too)
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8.Balt- OT R.Clady, Boise State
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9.Cincy- DE V.Gholston, OSU
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10.N.O.- S K.Phillips, Miami
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11.Buffalo-CB A.Cason, Arizona: Tough choice here because you really could make a case for a number of posistion on with the players left on the board. This is more of who I think they will go w/ rather than who I would go with. Personally I would really consider rolling the dice w/ a guy like D.Harvey from Florida. I like Cason though he is a big physical CB who fits the C2 mold and always seems to come up with the big play when needed.
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Round 2- WR Andre Caldwell, Florida
Round 3- OLB Erin Henderson, Maryland
Round 3- DT Dre Moore, Maryland
Round 4- TE J.Finley, Texas
Round 5- C Kory Lichtensteiger, Bowling Green
Round 5- FB O.Schmitt, West Virgina
Round 6- DE Chase Ortiz, TCU
Round 7- G S.Tevaga, UCLA
Round 7- LB/ST’er Curtis Johnson, Clark Atlanta



Honestly, I hate the 1st 2 picks. :n4clapping: I don't think corner is that big of a need to draft one that high. Additionally, i hate Florida wrs. I hate Florida wrs even more now that they play in an even more gimmickity (probably not a word :deal:) offense. I'd be real disappointed with those 2 picks.

That said, i love the rest of the draft. I don't know much about the DT from Maryland but I know Henderson is a beast. And Finley is supposed to be a beast. And the center from Bowling Green is a 4 year starter.

[LotteryPick]

I dont think the Raiders are planning on going RB b/c they have Jordon, Bush, and Fargas.

Atlanta may consider him but when you dont a QB on your roster that is considered a starter in this league its hard to start passing them.

Another interesting note is that not all the experts are in agreement that McFadden is the best player on the board and in some cases even the best RB.

On the WR's, Doucet wont be around in the second Nelson will be there but he will prob make it into the third. I also dont agree w/ the argument that you shouldnt take a Player because previous players have failed from that posistion at that school. Mich QB do not exactly have a glowing record in the NFL over the past decade or so but arguably the best QB in the game and maybe ever is from there. Its best to judge them as individules and not as a group

To address each comment. First, the Raiders don't really have Jordan. They want him out and he wants out. Second, RB is still a position of need for them. Fargas proved to be adequate, but he's not a premier back and who knows what will happen with Bush after his injury. Al Davis never passes up on the best talent available.

I agree that ATL is in a more confusing situation, but IMO none of the QBs in this draft are amazing. They are all fairly solid and after what AP did this year in MIN, ATL might just want some offensive firepower.

I can understand that some "experts" may not think McFadden is the best player (or RB) but, we can sift through all that crap, can't we? Stewart better than DMC? No way.

If you think Nelson will be around why not take him? His collegiate stats are much better than Caldwell's and his size (which people seem to focus so much on) is better.

As for the FLA WR thing, I agree that it might be unfair to judge a guy based on past players at his college, but if the results are there...I mean, what makes us think he'll be any different than guys that put up BETTER college numbers?

As for the MICH QB thing. Griese was pretty good. So was Grbac. And Drew Henson was considered a top prospect until he went to play baseball. I wouldn't compare Michigan QBs to the FLA WRs that have just stunk.

[Merk]

I finished up my mock last night and will post it tonight.

I also have the Bills taking Dre Moore in the 3rd, although I am starting to think that may be too optimistic. I think he will have a solid senior bowl week and combine and will likely jump up on many draft boards. His athleticism for his size is pretty impressive and his technique has gotten better every year. I love his potential.

I also have Schmitt, but in the 4th round not the 5th.

Finley in the 4th would be a solid pick up although until he bulks up he's better suited as an h-back, which the Bills may be moving away from. However, he has the frame to add bulk and at 20 he is just scratching the surface of his ability. The 4th round would be a perfect time to grab him if he is still there.

I like Cason and agree he is a perfect fit for the cover 2, but I am not sure the Bills will go CB in the 1st. I think they are happy with Jabari and Terrence. I do believe they will add a corner in the draft, just not a first rounder. I think there will be other more attractive options to them at 11.

Henderson and Ortiz are all solid picks and great fits for the Bills. I wanted to check out Lichtensteiger at Center in Bowling Green's Bowl game but didn't see him. Was he hurt or playing another position?



If both DT's are off the board the Bills really become a wild card in terms of where they could go.

If you remember the Bills went into last draft prepared to take a CB high if Lynch was off the board and they were left w/ Revis and Poz the other two players they liked at 12

Then again in the third round they were also ready to take a CB until Edwards fell in there lap

CB in the first really isnt where I want to go b/c I think there will be some great value finds later in the draft but I think the Bills may go that direction if they cant get there hands on Ellis or Dorsey.

I also considered Rivers and DC there

[The Chosen]

I like that people on this board are becoming more aware of Dre Moore. I had him as our second pick in my mock back a few weeks.


http://www.buffalorange.com/showthread.php?t=128657

[jaymitch84]

The Bills pass defense ranked 29h in the NFL last season, and yet people are so anti-taking a corner in Round 1.

I think more pressure on the QB would definitely help that number, but in this mock, all the guys that would good picks are off the board, so the next best bet would be to focus on the group actually covering the receivers.

But I think we can all agree that the #11 pick will be on the defensive side of the ball unless a WR blows everyone away in pre-draft workouts.

[LotteryPick]

But I think we can all agree that the #11 pick will be on the defensive side of the ball unless a WR blows everyone away in pre-draft workouts.

Yes. There will be high quality WRs available in Rd 2 that we can grab and immediately help our passing game.

[Buffalo1]

Well heres mine:

1 Miami- DE Chris Long
2 St. Louis- OT Jake Long
3 Oakland- RB Darren McFadden
4 Atlanta- QB Matt Ryan
5 Kansas City- DT Glenn Dorsey
6 New York Jets- DE Vernon Gholston
7 New England (from San Francisco)- LB Dan Connor
8 Baltimore- QB Andre Woodson
9 Cincinnati- DE Calais Campbell
10 New Orleans– CB Mike Jenkins
11 Buffalo- DT Sedrick Ellis
12 Denver- OLB Keith Rivers
13 Carolina- FS Ken Phillips
14 Chicago– QB Brian Brohm
15 Detroit- OT Sam Baker
16 Arizona– CB Aqib Talib (can also play safety)
17 Minnesota- WR Malcolm Kelly
18 Houston –RB Jonathan Stewart
19 Philadelphia- OT Ryan Clady
20 Tampa Bay- WR DeSean Jackson
21 Washington- DE Quinton Groves
22 Dallas(from Cleveland)- OT Jeff Otah
23 Seattle– TE Fred Davis (Pollard is awful)
24 Pittsburgh – OT Gosder Cherilus(could be losing Starks and Faneca)
25 Tennessee - WR James Hardy (Vince needs help)
26 New York Giants- CB Reggie Smith (can also play safety)
27 San Diego - DT Frank Okam
28 Jacksonville- WR Early Doucet
29 Green Bay– CB Antoine Cason
30 Dallas– RB Felix Jones
31 San Francisco (from Indianapolis)– OT Chris Williams

Round 2 – Buffalo drafts best WR available Limas Sweed / Adarious Bowman (Big #2 WR)
Round 3 - TE (Carlson/Rucker/Bennett)
Round 3b - Buffalo drafts OLB Henderson/Ezra Butler/Phillip Wheeler/Adibi
Round 4 – C Adam Spieker, Pollack
Round 5 – CB Jonathan Zenon, LSU /Darnell Terrell, Missouri
Round 5 – LB Mike Humpal, Iowa / Bo Ruud, Nebraska
Round 6 – FB Jehuu Caulcrick, Michigan State
Round 7 – FS Corey Lynch, App State (a special teams monster)
Round 7 - DE Bryan Mattison, Iowa

[FknGvna]

I haven't been keeping up with the deep guys but my top four are:

1. Dan Connor
2. Kelly/Hardy
3. Finley/Carlson
3b. Steve Justice

then I'll jump down to J. Swartz FB Iowa St. in the 6th.

[RockyTopBill]

Please no Bubba Caldwell, he was ok at Florida, but was hurt and very inconsistent. I would much rather get Hardy or Sweed.

[Buffalo13]

I agree with Merk that CB could very well be the pick if a WR isn't worthy. I couldn't fault the Bills if they try to get a guy to keep up with the Patriots WRs. I just hope they can still manage a WR who can contribute in the second or third. If we take LB in the first, I'll pull my hair out.

[kdhammond]

I agree with Merk that CB could very well be the pick if a WR isn't worthy. I couldn't fault the Bills if they try to get a guy to keep up with the Patriots WRs. I just hope they can still manage a WR who can contribute in the second or third. If we take LB in the first, I'll pull my hair out.

Why would you be upset with a LB in round 1? The only proven LB on the entire team is Crowell. We hope/expect that Posluszny will be very good at another one of the spots, but after that the team is devoid of starting calibre players. I don't want to watch Keith Ellison/Coy Wire/Digiorgio get run over consistently at the 3rd LB position.

I am not saying that they must take a LB in round 1, but I wouldn't be upset with say Keith Rivers at #11.

[Merk]

To address each comment. First, the Raiders don't really have Jordan. They want him out and he wants out. Second, RB is still a position of need for them. Fargas proved to be adequate, but he's not a premier back and who knows what will happen with Bush after his injury. Al Davis never passes up on the best talent available.

I agree that ATL is in a more confusing situation, but IMO none of the QBs in this draft are amazing. They are all fairly solid and after what AP did this year in MIN, ATL might just want some offensive firepower.

I can understand that some "experts" may not think McFadden is the best player (or RB) but, we can sift through all that crap, can't we? Stewart better than DMC? No way.

If you think Nelson will be around why not take him? His collegiate stats are much better than Caldwell's and his size (which people seem to focus so much on) is better.

As for the FLA WR thing, I agree that it might be unfair to judge a guy based on past players at his college, but if the results are there...I mean, what makes us think he'll be any different than guys that put up BETTER college numbers?

As for the MICH QB thing. Griese was pretty good. So was Grbac. And Drew Henson was considered a top prospect until he went to play baseball. I wouldn't compare Michigan QBs to the FLA WRs that have just stunk.


Keep in mind this is a mid Jan draft and untill the Raiders do something about there RB situation I see there DL being a bigger problem area

There isnt a bona fide top 5 QB in this draft but there stock is always going to be overinflated because of the posistion and when your a team like the Falcons that doesnt have one getting one takes priority. I also think though that even though none of the three are top 5 calibur there is such a drop off after them that they are going to be taken in the first and all go prob higher than they should. Between now and April one of them will seperate themselves enough for a team to use a top 10 pick on them

I'm just giving you examples of some very credible people who have no ties to teams and thus no reason for a bias opinion on McFadden. I'm not saying I agree w/ them, but you would be hard pressed to find two better talent evaluaters who are in the media and have more cred than Brandt and Wolf. When they speak people tend to listen

I have nothing against Nelson its just I think hes more of a 3rd round pick right now until his workouts are in. Plus I dont pay to close attention to college stats since then can tend to get inflated. I thin Caldwell has a chace to break the Gator WR perception b/c he is a more complete WR then the other ones mentioned. He is much better short and intermidiate route runner then the ones mentioned and he actually gets involved in the run game by throwing blocks.

[Merk]

Well heres mine:

1 Miami- DE Chris Long
2 St. Louis- OT Jake Long
3 Oakland- RB Darren McFadden
4 Atlanta- QB Matt Ryan
5 Kansas City- DT Glenn Dorsey
6 New York Jets- DE Vernon Gholston
7 New England (from San Francisco)- LB Dan Connor
8 Baltimore- QB Andre Woodson
9 Cincinnati- DE Calais Campbell
10 New Orleans– CB Mike Jenkins
11 Buffalo- DT Sedrick Ellis
12 Denver- OLB Keith Rivers
13 Carolina- FS Ken Phillips
14 Chicago– QB Brian Brohm
15 Detroit- OT Sam Baker
16 Arizona– CB Aqib Talib (can also play safety)
17 Minnesota- WR Malcolm Kelly
18 Houston –RB Jonathan Stewart
19 Philadelphia- OT Ryan Clady
20 Tampa Bay- WR DeSean Jackson
21 Washington- DE Quinton Groves
22 Dallas(from Cleveland)- OT Jeff Otah
23 Seattle– TE Fred Davis (Pollard is awful)
24 Pittsburgh – OT Gosder Cherilus(could be losing Starks and Faneca)
25 Tennessee - WR James Hardy (Vince needs help)
26 New York Giants- CB Reggie Smith (can also play safety)
27 San Diego - DT Frank Okam
28 Jacksonville- WR Early Doucet
29 Green Bay– CB Antoine Cason
30 Dallas– RB Felix Jones
31 San Francisco (from Indianapolis)– OT Chris Williams

Round 2 – Buffalo drafts best WR available Limas Sweed / Adarious Bowman (Big #2 WR)
Round 3 - TE (Carlson/Rucker/Bennett)
Round 3b - Buffalo drafts OLB Henderson/Ezra Butler/Phillip Wheeler/Adibi
Round 4 – C Adam Spieker, Pollack
Round 5 – CB Jonathan Zenon, LSU /Darnell Terrell, Missouri
Round 5 – LB Mike Humpal, Iowa / Bo Ruud, Nebraska
Round 6 – FB Jehuu Caulcrick, Michigan State
Round 7 – FS Corey Lynch, App State (a special teams monster)
Round 7 - DE Bryan Mattison, Iowa


Ellis does have a chance to fall if GM's start over thinking injury history. Its not likely IMO but it is possible

[LotteryPick]

Why are people so high on Connor when a lot of talent evaluators seem to be dropping him down the boards. Connor is a real stretch at 11.

Also, people need to stop talking about Justice in the 3rd round. HE'S THE BEST CENTER IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL. He will go in the 2nd at the latest.

[admarc]

Here's mine:

Bills Mock 1.0 (http://www.buffalorange.com/showthread.php?t=129647)<o:p></o:p>
Round 1 #11 (11)Keith Rivers, LB, USC (http://www.buffalorange.com/showthread.php?t=114517) LB 6'-3" 220 Senior
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Rivers is a 3 down LB who is equally adept at stuffing the run, dropping back in coverage and rushing the QB on a blitz. He’s smart, athletic and a leader on the field. He’s a perfect fit for the Bills at Will because of his quickness and exceptional coverage ability. He can shut down TE’s and backs coming out of the backfield. He also has exceptional range that enables him to pursues from sideline to sideline. He can over pursue at times and isn’t the strongest backer at the point of attack. He has a very high floor and is as close to being a can’t miss prospect as there is in the ’08 draft. He was very productive at USC. <o:p></o:p>
Poz, Crow and Rivers would make for a dynamic young LB squad that would be the cornerstone of the Bills Defense for years to come.<o:p></o:p>
He projects to be a top 15 pick.<o:p></o:p>
Other possibilities: Malcolm Kelly WR (http://www.buffalorange.com/showthread.php?t=116203), Sedrick Ellis, DT USC (http://www.buffalorange.com/showthread.php?t=116301), Fred Davis, TE<o:p></o:p>
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Round 2 #10 (41)Adarius Bowman (http://www.buffalorange.com/showthread.php?t=115604) WR 6’-4” 220 lbs
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Bowman is a big physical receiver with good speed and great hands. He’s not afraid to go over the middle and is the best blocking receiver in the draft. He has soft hands and is capable of making spectacular one handed grabs. He has good leaping ability and does a nice job beating single coverage with double moves and head fakes. With his size and leaping ability he is an excellent red zone target. He is a bit tight hipped and struggles to scoop down for passes. He was dismissed from North Carolina after being arrested on marijuana charges which were later dropped. By several accounts, he has used the experience to motivate himself to get serious about football and has matured into a team leader. <o:p></o:p>
He is the perfect complement to Evans and would instantly improve the Bills red zone offense. He could even line up at H-Back. Next to helping improve the efficiency in the red zone, his downfield blocking would help Bills backs break more big plays.<o:p></o:p>
He projects to the late first to mid second round. His combine and pre-draft physicals will determine if he can sneak into the 1^st round. The depth at WR this year gives him a chance to slip to the Bills in the 2^nd round.
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Round 3 #08 (71) Dre Moore (http://www.buffalorange.com/showthread.php?t=116307)DT6'-4" 311 Senior<v:shape id="_x0000_i1033" type="#_x0000_t75" style="width: 348pt; height: 258pt; visibility: visible;">
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Moore is a 1 technique run stuffer with the ability to penetrate and make plays in the backfield. When he plays with leverage he can dominate and collapse the pocket. He pops up out of his stance when tired and only started playing Football as a senior in high school but has gotten consistently better every year leading up to a break out campaign where he led the Terps with 6 sacks, this year. He has great athleticism for a man his size is only scratching the surface on his potential.<o:p></o:p>

Round 3 #09 (72) Cody Wallace (http://www.buffalorange.com/showthread.php?t=117261) C 6’-4” 300lbs<v:shape id="_x0000_i1032" type="#_x0000_t75" alt="http://www.nationalchamps.net/2007/sub/pics/small/texasam_cody_wallace_sm.jpg" style="width: 330pt; height: 289.5pt; visibility: visible;"><v:imagedata src="file:///C:%5CUsers%5Cowner%5CAppData%5CLocal%5CTemp%5Cmsoh tmlclip1%5C01%5Cclip_image004.jpg" o:title="texasam_cody_wallace_sm"></v:imagedata></v:shape><o:p></o:p>
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Wallace is a highly intelligent mauler to complete the offensive line overhaul. He graded out off the charts the past two years and is equally adept at pass blocking as run blocking. He can step in and start from day one.

Round 4 #15 (110) Owen Schmitt (http://www.buffalorange.com/showthread.php?t=128002) FB 6’-2” 250<o:p></o:p>
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Schmitt is a throwback glass eater that will blow open holes for Lynch. With Wallace added to the middle of the line, Schmitt and Lynch the Bills will have gone a long way to being a smash mouth team that doesn’t care how many guys you put in the box.

If someone like him doesn't fit your system, change your system.<o:p></o:p>

Round 5 #09 (135) Brad Cottam (http://www.buffalorange.com/showthread.php?p=1732873) TE 6’-8” 270<o:p></o:p>
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Cottam has had an injury riddled career at Tennessee and has missed most of this season after suffering a wrist injury before the season began. He had a couple of big plays in the last few games including a TD vs. Wisconsin in their Bowl Game. Despite his lack of production, Cottam has incredible athletic ability for his size. He's 6-8 270 and runs in the 4.7 range.

His off season workouts will go a long way to determine where he slots, but he is really an interesting prospect.
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Round 5 #13 (139)Darnell Terrell (http://www.buffalorange.com/showthread.php?t=116658) CB Missouri 6-3 205 4.45<v:shapetype id="_x0000_t75" coordsize="21600,21600" o:spt="75" o:preferrelative="t" path="m@4@5l@4@11@9@11@9@5xe" filled="f" stroked="f">
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Round 6 #13 (170) Kevin O’Connell (http://www.buffalorange.com/showthread.php?t=128854) San Diego State 6'-6" 228 4.68
http://www.sdhoc.com/main/articles/aztecs/Oconnellpopwarner/Image00027589<o:p></o:p>
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I really like this kid but his footwork needs a lot of work. He has prototypical size, intelligence and athleticism. He's a bit of a project but I think in the right system and coaching he is a potential steal. He is 6'-6" 228 lbs. He struggled in the 1st quarter, but started clicking on his second opportunity in the 2nd half. The ball comes out of his hands quick and he can fling it down field. If he can do a better job setting his feet on his throws he'll greatly improve his accuracy. He reminds me of Kevin Kolb, who I liked coming out last year (big, strong, quick release with footwork that needs work). He's also a real smart, well spoken kid. Worth a serious look in round 5, where he is currently projected to go.<o:p></o:p>

Round 7 #12 (201) Jameel McClain (http://www.buffalorange.com/showthread.php?t=118593) DE Syracuse
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Round 7 #17 (206) Joe Fields FS Syracuse
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<o:p> </o:p><o:p></o:p>Another homer pick to wrap things up. I actually would like to see more Orange and Bulls players brought in to Buffalo, either through the draft or as UDFA. Fields would have a shot to make the roster as a special teams performer and for depth in the secondary.

[FknGvna]

Why are people so high on Connor when a lot of talent evaluators seem to be dropping him down the boards. Connor is a real stretch at 11.

Also, people need to stop talking about Justice in the 3rd round. HE'S THE BEST CENTER IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL. He will go in the 2nd at the latest.

That seems to be focused towards me. I really think Connor will vault up the boards at the combine. He looks to be the most cerebral of the LBs. Just be ready to each crow cuz I'd admit defeat.

[LotteryPick]

If Connor turns out great I'll admit it. I'm not saying he is bad either, I'm saying saying that I don't think LB is our most pressing need and I don't think Connor is worthy of a #11 pick. But I guess the workouts will determine all of that.

[FknGvna]

So your' saying Ellison is going to make more of an impact than Parrish and Reed? Ellisons a career backup just like DJ and is about the same size as Wire-figuratively speaking-Plus we've already argued the point that LBs make more of a rookie impact that WRs. There are many examples but I'll take it to the extreme and compare Demeco Ryans/Patrick Willis to Calvin Johnson.

[jaymitch84]

What did he do this year to cause the drop?

I remember last year all the talk was "Connor might be even better than Poz."

[admarc]

If I was the GM of a 3-4 team that needed an inside LB, Connor would be top 10 on my board. If I'm GM of the Bills with Poz set at MLB and Crow set at Sam, I probably would not have him in the top 25.

[FknGvna]

He had to move to MLB to take Poz's place. I don't know if that contributed to anything but he's still top 3 LB.

And please show me where he dropped cuz the guy was an AWARD winning LB.

[FknGvna]

I haven't been keeping up with the deep guys but my top four are:

1. Dan Connor
2. Kelly/Hardy
3. Finley/Carlson
3b. Steve Justice

then I'll jump down to J. Swartz FB Iowa St. in the 6th.

I'm going to rescend that 3rd rounder and hope for Cody Wallace. Sounds impressive.
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/profile.php?pyid=8970

[admarc]

I'm going to rescend that 3rd rounder and hope for Cody Wallace. Sounds impressive.
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/profile.php?pyid=8970 99.8% assignment success rate !!! I LOVE this kid.

[FknGvna]

That's what I'm sayin.

[FknGvna]

Using this thread

This should be the Bills draft picks 2008 by round, position in round and overall position in the draft. I can't guarantee that they are correct.

Round 1 #11 (11)
Round 2 #10 (41)
Round 3 #08 (71)
Round 3 #09 (72)
Round 4 #15 (110)
Round 5 #09 (135)
Round 5 #13 (139)
Round 6 #13 (170)
Round 7 #12 (201)
Round 7 #17 (206)

The overall position includes forfeitet picks and picks already used in the supplemental drafts. Because of compenation picks for lost FAs, picks from round 4 will actually be later.

Positions don't depend on the playoffs, since none of our trade partners came close to qualifying.

and this webpage

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/top750.php?draftyear=2008

Here's mine:

1. U Know Who Fits HERE lb
2. A. Bowman wr
3a. J. Carlson te/ my heart says J. Finley
3b. C. Wallace c
4. O. Schmitt fb
5a. J. Nelson wr
5b. C. Jackson cb
6. J. Silva-hell everyone else likes him. Safety help.
7a. C. Johnson lb
7b. J. Tryon-24 out of 236

[imontoya]

Here's what I came up with. I said Talib because I think the Bills will go CB in the 1st or 2nd and because it's January and all of these picks will be wrong anyway.

1 Miami- QB Matt Ryan
2 St. Louis- OT Jake Long
3 Oakland- DT Glenn Dorsey
4 Atlanta- RB Darren McFadden
5 Kansas City- DT - Sedrick Ellis
6 New York Jets- DE Chris Long
7 New England (from San Francisco)- DE Vernon Gholston
8 Baltimore- CB Mike Jenkins
9 Cincinnati- DE Calais Campbell
10 New Orleans– OLB Keith Rivers
11 Buffalo- CB Aqib Talib
12 Denver- WR Desean Jackson
13 Carolina- QB Brian Brohm
14 Chicago– OLB Curtis Lofton (I think he'll move to WLB in the pros)
15 Detroit- OT Ryan Clady
16 Arizona– DE Quinton Groves
17 Minnesota- FS Ken Phillips
18 Houston –RB Jonathan Stewart
19 Philadelphia- DE Derrick Harvey
20 Tampa Bay- DT Kentwan Balmer
21 Washington- WR Limas Sweed
22 Dallas(from Cleveland)- LB Dan Connor
23 Seattle– Rashard Mendehall
24 Pittsburgh – OT Jeff Otah
25 Tennessee - TE Fred Davis
26 New York Giants- CB Antoine Cason
27 San Diego - DT Frank Okam
28 Jacksonville- WR Malcolm Kelly
29 Green Bay– CB/S Reggie Smith
30 Dallas– OT Gosder Cherilus
31 San Francisco (from Indianapolis)– WR Mario Manningham

Round 2 – TE Martin Rucker, Missouri
Round 3 - WR Jordy Nelson, K-State
Round 3b- DE Clifford Avril, Purdue
Round 4 – LB Jo-Lunn Dunbar, BC
Round 5 – C Matt Spanos, USC
Round 5 – OT Barry Richardson, Clemson
Round 6 – DT Nick Hayden, Wisconsin
Round 7 – WR Robert Jordan, Cal
Round 7 - DE Trevor Scott, Buffalo

[Buffalo1]

Ellis does have a chance to fall if GM's start over thinking injury history. Its not likely IMO but it is possible

I agree, It would be great if he made to us.

[ksl66]

1 (22) (via Dallas). Dan Connors OLB Penn St
2a (41). Pat Simms DT Auburn
2b (61) (via Dallas). Dustin Keller TE Purdue
3a (71) (via Baltimore). Adarius Bowman WR Oklahoma
3b (72). Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie CB Tennessee St
3c (94) (via Dallas). Tommy Blake DE TCU
4 (110) Owen Schmidt FB West Virginia
5a (135) Chad Rinehart OT Northern Iowa
5b (139) (via Chicago). Chad Henne QB Michigan
6 (170) Allen Patrick RB Oklahoma
7a (201) Ben Moffit ILB South Florida
7b (206) (via Philadelphia) Tim Bugg LS Indiana

This mock includes dealing the 11 pick to Dallas for the 22, 61 and 94 picks. I wouldn't expect more than 10 of these guys to make the roster, but its time to start replacing the sub par depth on this roster with actual NFL quality depth, so that is my reasoning for wanting so many TOP 125 type guys.

[gilchristfan]

Here's what I came up with. I said Talib because I think the Bills will go CB in the 1st or 2nd and because it's January and all of these picks will be wrong anyway.

1 Miami- QB Matt Ryan
2 St. Louis- OT Jake Long
3 Oakland- DT Glenn Dorsey
4 Atlanta- RB Darren McFadden
5 Kansas City- DT - Sedrick Ellis
6 New York Jets- DE Chris Long
7 New England (from San Francisco)- DE Vernon Gholston
8 Baltimore- CB Mike Jenkins
9 Cincinnati- DE Calais Campbell
10 New Orleans– OLB Keith Rivers
11 Buffalo- CB Aqib Talib
12 Denver- WR Desean Jackson
13 Carolina- QB Brian Brohm
14 Chicago– OLB Curtis Lofton (I think he'll move to WLB in the pros)
15 Detroit- OT Ryan Clady
16 Arizona– DE Quinton Groves
17 Minnesota- FS Ken Phillips
18 Houston –RB Jonathan Stewart
19 Philadelphia- DE Derrick Harvey
20 Tampa Bay- DT Kentwan Balmer
21 Washington- WR Limas Sweed
22 Dallas(from Cleveland)- LB Dan Connor
23 Seattle– Rashard Mendehall
24 Pittsburgh – OT Jeff Otah
25 Tennessee - TE Fred Davis
26 New York Giants- CB Antoine Cason
27 San Diego - DT Frank Okam
28 Jacksonville- WR Malcolm Kelly
29 Green Bay– CB/S Reggie Smith
30 Dallas– OT Gosder Cherilus
31 San Francisco (from Indianapolis)– WR Mario Manningham

Round 2 – TE Martin Rucker, Missouri
Round 3 - WR Jordy Nelson, K-State
Round 3b- DE Clifford Avril, Purdue
Round 4 – LB Jo-Lunn Dunbar, BC
Round 5 – C Matt Spanos, USC
Round 5 – OT Barry Richardson, Clemson
Round 6 – DT Nick Hayden, Wisconsin
Round 7 – WR Robert Jordan, Cal
Round 7 - DE Trevor Scott, Buffalo



Someone's been watching the Big 12 this year. :)

I love the Rucker and Jordy picks, if they're there at the time. Not keen on Talib at 11, but then you have Ellis, Campbell, Rivers and Gholston going before us. I'd definitely be looking to trade down..but might consider Harvey or Dan Connor.

[imontoya]

Someone's been watching the Big 12 this year. :)

I love the Rucker and Jordy picks, if they're there at the time. Not keen on Talib at 11, but then you have Ellis, Campbell, Rivers and Gholston going before us. I'd definitely be looking to trade down..but might consider Harvey or Dan Connor.

My original draft had William Franklin in there too, so my Big 12 bias is showing.

I was trying to predict what the Bills will do rather than draft how I want them too. I'm hoping for a trade up for either Ellis or Campbell. I'd be happier if they drafted Harvey or Malcolm Kelly at 11 rather than Talib.

I think Jordy's wishful thinking in the 3rd. I think he'll surprise people at the combine.

[FknGvna]

1 (22) (via Dallas). Dan Connors OLB Penn St
2a (41). Pat Simms DT Auburn
2b (61) (via Dallas). Dustin Keller TE Purdue
3a (71) (via Baltimore). Adarius Bowman WR Oklahoma
3b (72). Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie CB Tennessee St
3c (94) (via Dallas). Tommy Blake DE TCU
4 (110) Owen Schmidt FB West Virginia
5a (135) Chad Rinehart OT Northern Iowa
5b (139) (via Chicago). Chad Henne QB Michigan
6 (170) Allen Patrick RB Oklahoma
7a (201) Ben Moffit ILB South Florida
7b (206) (via Philadelphia) Tim Bugg LS Indiana

This mock includes dealing the 11 pick to Dallas for the 22, 61 and 94 picks. I wouldn't expect more than 10 of these guys to make the roster, but its time to start replacing the sub par depth on this roster with actual NFL quality depth, so that is my reasoning for wanting so many TOP 125 type guys.

Nice, I like Cromartie too.

[gilchristfan]

My original draft had William Franklin in there too, so my Big 12 bias is showing.

I was trying to predict what the Bills will do rather than draft how I want them too. I'm hoping for a trade up for either Ellis or Campbell. I'd be happier if they drafted Harvey or Malcolm Kelly at 11 rather than Talib.

I think Jordy's wishful thinking in the 3rd. I think he'll surprise people at the combine.

I feel pretty good that one of Ellis, Gholston, Rivers or Campbell falls to 11. Jordy's too tough to say right. I agree, the Combine is going to have everything to do with it. Maycock has him rated at no. 5 WR.

I'd take him in the 2nd if necessary.

[GvilleBill]

http://www.buffalorange.com/showthread.php?p=1913770#post1913770
I did a FA/Mock in another thread. If it went down like this, business would be picking up @ OBD.

[Buffalo1]

updated mock, I am figuring we will probably sign a #2 WR in FA'cy:

1 Miami -DE Chris Long
2 St. Louis - OT Jake Long
3 Oakland - RB Darren McFadden
4 Atlanta - QB Matt Ryan
5 Kansas City - DT Glenn Dorsey
6 New York Jets - DE Vernon Gholston
7 New England (from San Francisco) - LB Dan Connor
8 Baltimore - QB Andre Woodson
9 Cincinnati - DE Calais Campbell
10 New Orleans –CB Mike Jenkins
11 Buffalo- DT Sedrick Ellis (solidify the middle of our porous D)
12 Denver - FS Ken Phillips
13 Carolina - OLB Keith Rivers
14 Chicago – QB Brian Brohm
15 Detroit - OT Sam Baker
16 Arizona – CB Aqib Talib (can also play safety)
17 Minnesota- CB Leodis McKelvin
18 Houston –RB Jonathan Stewart
19 Philadelphia - OT Ryan Clady
20 Tampa Bay- WR Malcolm Kelly
21 Washington - CB Reggie Smith (can also play safety)
22 Dallas (from Cleveland) - WR DeSean Jackson
23 Pittsburgh –OT Jeff Otah (could be losing Faneca and Starks)
24 Tennessee – CB Antoine Cason
25 Seattle – TE Fred Davis (Pollard is awful and lost the playoff game by himself)
26 Jacksonville –DE Quinton Groves
27 San Diego - DT Frank Okam (help for J-Will, he can’t do it all forever)
28 Dallas –RB Felix Jones (JJ supporting his alma mater)
29 San Francisco (from Indianapolis)– DE Derrick Harvey
30 Green Bay – RB Rashard Mendenhall (another weapon for Brett)
31 New York Giants - WR Mario Manningham

Round 2: - Buffalo drafts LB Erin Henderson
Round 3: - Buffalo drafts WR Early Doucet
Round 3b: - Buffalo drafts CB Dwight Lowery
Round 4: - Buffalo drafts TE John Carlson
Round 5: - Buffalo drafts C Adam Spieker
Round 5: - Buffalo drafts FB Schmitt/Caulcrick
Round 6: - Buffalo drafts DE Greyson Gunheim
Round 7: - Buffalo drafts FS Corey Lynch LB
Round 7: - Buffalo drafts OL Andrew Crummey

[FknGvna]

BUFFALO1, cmon you gotta pick one guy now.

I got Chevis in the fifth.

[Buffalo1]

that covers it all though, the first one is the first choice anyway. OK, problem solved.
Oh, and there is no way Jackson is there in the 5th! maybe you could get Zenon in the 5th but not Chevis, IMO.

[FknGvna]

Never heard of Lowery. What's your take?

[Buffalo1]

Dwight Lowery 6-1, 190
4.38 40

Lowery is a very good cover corner who possesses excellent speed and ball skills. He had a breakout junior season in 2006 where he had nine interceptions for San Jose State after spending his first two collegiate seasons at Cabrillo College (JUCO). Lowery hasn't been as productive this season compared to last year, but he currently has three interceptions and has shown signs of breaking through. He plays aggressively at the line of scrimmage and is physical in coverage. He has smooth hips, is very fast, transitions well in coverage and positions himself offensively on defense. Lowery's drop in production has hurt his draft stock a bit, as he was once considered a first-day selection. But he'll be a third-round pick with a lot of potential. That about sums it up, I think he has a higher ceiling than Chevis Jackson and Godfrey but could also see them picked here. He had 4 picks, 7 passes defensed, and made huge plays for the Spartans all season. The highlight of his year had to be returning a punt 84 yards for a touchdown against Hawaii, then following it up with a 24 yard interception return for another score. He almost single-handedly brought Hawaii's dream season to a halt. He will be able to be a big contributor on special teams as well as defense.

http://profootballexperts.scout.com/2/699262.html

[imontoya]

Updated my mock draft...

Round 1 - LB Keith Rivers
Round 2 – DT Dre Moore, Maryland
Round 3 - WR Jordy Nelson, K-State
Round 3b- CB Dwight Lowery, San Jose State
Round 4 – TE Kellen Davis, MSU
Round 5 – FB Jacob Hester, LSU
Round 5 – C John Sullivan, Notre Dame
Round 6 – QB Bernard Morris, Marshall
Round 7 – WR Robert Jordan, Cal
Round 7 - DE Trevor Scott, Buffalo

[kcf06751]

I get tired of everyone lumping Gator receivers together as busts so casually…as each was a carbon copy of the other. I have heard this on ESPN…it must be a fad, or something. Florida recruits a lot of talent…some work out in the pros…some don’t. just like any other big university. I just want to set the record straight.

You can mention those receivers in picked in the first couple rounds which haven’t done anything at all, but why mention the undrafted players? If you get anything from an undrafted player…then you should be happy.

Reche Caldwell was undrafted (61 reception in 2006)
Dallas Baker was undrafted
Tyler Jacobs was undrafted

Why mention them at all?

Plus everyone conveniently omits the solid gator receivers:
What about Darrell Jackson?
What about Ike Hillard (even after a horrible injury his first pro year)?
What about Willie Jackson?
…Not superstars but, all very solid receivers.

Chad Jackson shredded his knee the first year…who knows how he would have done?
That doesn’t have anything to do with skill (or lack there of). Its football...this happens.

I will give you Reidel Anthony and Jaquez Green. They were a part of the fad of drafting Gator receivers after Florida won the national championship in 1996. Ike was the only first round talent, but everyone was in love with Spurrier’s Fun and Gun. Both players did have some solid years with Tampa…not spectacular by any means (not worth and first rounder).

Travis Taylor and Jabar Gaffney are bums. They had all sorts of behavior problems at UF. The NFL teams who drafted them should have known. It is their fault. Still both of these players have averaged about 40 receptions a year….not horribleit is more of a behavioral probleml.

My point: You can’t just lump everyone together. Bubba Caldwell has been solid at UF and he is very mature. Who knows?

I think the comparison to Michigan quarterbacks is very valid. The Gators just haven’t had their Brady, yet. It could have been Ike or Chad Jackson before their injuries. I guess we’ll never know.

[Callaway]

I get tired of everyone lumping Gator receivers together as busts so casually…as each was a carbon copy of the other. I have heard this on ESPN…it must be a fad, or something. Florida recruits a lot of talent…some work out in the pros…some don’t. just like any other big university. I just want to set the record straight.

You can mention those receivers in picked in the first couple rounds which haven’t done anything at all, but why mention the undrafted players? If you get anything from an undrafted player…then you should be happy.

Reche Caldwell was undrafted (61 reception in 2006)
Dallas Baker was undrafted
Tyler Jacobs was undrafted

Why mention them at all?

Plus everyone conveniently omits the solid gator receivers:
What about Darrell Jackson?
What about Ike Hillard (even after a horrible injury his first pro year)?
What about Willie Jackson?
…Not superstars but, all very solid receivers.

Chad Jackson shredded his knee the first year…who knows how he would have done?
That doesn’t have anything to do with skill (or lack there of). Its football...this happens.

I will give you Reidel Anthony and Jaquez Green. They were a part of the fad of drafting Gator receivers after Florida won the national championship in 1996. Ike was the only first round talent, but everyone was in love with Spurrier’s Fun and Gun. Both players did have some solid years with Tampa…not spectacular by any means (not worth and first rounder).

Travis Taylor and Jabar Gaffney are bums. They had all sorts of behavior problems at UF. The NFL teams who drafted them should have known. It is their fault. Still both of these players have averaged about 40 receptions a year….not horribleit is more of a behavioral probleml.

My point: You can’t just lump everyone together. Bubba Caldwell has been solid at UF and he is very mature. Who knows?

I think the comparison to Michigan quarterbacks is very valid. The Gators just haven’t had their Brady, yet. It could have been Ike or Chad Jackson before their injuries. I guess we’ll never know.


Good Post

[Callaway]

I'm just doin the first 3 rounds

R1.LB Rivers: Hes the best LB in this draft if you dont know it now you will know by the end of the 08 season
R1/2.WR Doucet: we use one of our thirds once again to move up
R3.CB B.Flowers: good fit for what we do here

[ksl66]

Dwight Lowery 6-1, 190
4.38 40

Lowery is a very good cover corner who possesses excellent speed and ball skills. He had a breakout junior season in 2006 where he had nine interceptions for San Jose State after spending his first two collegiate seasons at Cabrillo College (JUCO). Lowery hasn't been as productive this season compared to last year, but he currently has three interceptions and has shown signs of breaking through. He plays aggressively at the line of scrimmage and is physical in coverage. He has smooth hips, is very fast, transitions well in coverage and positions himself offensively on defense. Lowery's drop in production has hurt his draft stock a bit, as he was once considered a first-day selection. But he'll be a third-round pick with a lot of potential. That about sums it up, I think he has a higher ceiling than Chevis Jackson and Godfrey but could also see them picked here. [/url]

I like him too, he had two picks in the east/west game, will fit well into the cover two scheme. More than likely a fourth to fifth round guy. Could pan out to be a T. Mcgee type.

[FknGvna]

Good Post

somebody give that guy some rep. I'm all repped out. Two posts in two years. Sheesh.

[FknGvna]

I'm just doin the first 3 rounds

R1.LB Rivers: Hes the best LB in this draft if you dont know it now you will know by the end of the 08 season

not according to M Mayock.

[FknGvna]

From
Using this thread



and this webpage

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/top750.php?draftyear=2008

Here's mine:

1. U Know Who Fits HERE lb
2. A. Bowman wr
3a. J. Carlson te/ my heart says J. Finley
3b. C. Wallace c
4. O. Schmitt fb
5a. J. Nelson wr
5b. C. Jackson cb
6. J. Silva-hell everyone else likes him. Safety help.
7a. C. Johnson lb
7b. J. Tryon-24 out of 236


New and improved

1. U Know Who Fits HERE lb
2. Rodgers-Cromartie cb
3a. Kelly/Hardy wr
3b. M. Mcgwynn ol
4. Laws/Langford dt/de
5a. M. Rucker te/ my heart says J. Finley
5b. O. Schmitt fb
6. J. Nelson
7a. Rubin dt
7b. J. Silva-hell everyone else likes him. Safety help.