Afinogenov slew foot ?

[kritter65]

Anybody see this ? They're going nuts about it in Philly.

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[Pondslider]

Flyers fans are crybabies.

[shotgun]

Lol Good ! There Is No Team In The Nhl I Would Love To Get ****ed More Then The ****ing Flyers!

[kritter65]

Flyers fans are crybabies.

Tell me about it. I was reading over at hockeybuzz, a blog by Tim (Pinach ? something like that) and OMG, what a bunch of crybabies. There's like 300 posts bitching about Max and how he should be suspended for 20 games, blah blah blah....check it out if you have a couple hours to go through that crap. Some of them think this slew foot is worse that the 3 head-hunting hits their guys got suspended for.

[Ralonzo]

yeah, and hatcher & coburn blasting guys from behind headfirst into the end boards is fine.

blow me, philthy

[Pondslider]

I love seeing Flyers fans get themselves all worked up. The HFboards Friday and Saturday were pure gold.

[shotgun]

sabres 2 flyers 0

[anEinherjer]

Yeah, "scoreboard" says it all. They can boo him next time we're in town, it's okay.

[foster]

I love to see Max playing with so much passion. This guy cares.

For the Philly fans who are all worked up..... Take a look in the mirror. You are officially the dirty team of the NHL - all earned. Enjoy your noncalls for the rest of the season - you earned them.

[charbs]

He didn't put countless number of people in stretchers and get warned by the NHL.

Scoreboard bitches!

[texasabres]

That is no big deal. It happens all of the time around the crease area, especially once the play is ended and a crowd appears around the net.

[Scary Good]

We end seasons and careers, god forbid you sweep our legs out.

[Sabres244]

That is no big deal. It happens all of the time around the crease area, especially once the play is ended and a crowd appears around the net.

It's very dirty and player can get hurt, did you see how fast he went to the ground? Ask Mark Eaton of the Penguins, he suffered a knee injury Sunday because of a slew foot.

[itsMILLERTIME30]

Go Max.

[SabresAllTheWay]

Go Max!!!! Flyers Are Cry Babies

[billsfan69]

It's very dirty and player can get hurt, did you see how fast he went to the ground? Ask Mark Eaton of the Penguins, he suffered a knee injury Sunday because of a slew foot.


it is a dangerous play but the flyers have lost all credibility with all their dirty tactics this season. Leaving your feet to slam bergeron into the boards from behind is also a dangerous play that could, oh wait it did injure Bergeron. Not to condone dirty plays but the Flyers should be the last ones crying.

[Sabres244]

it is a dangerous play but the flyers have lost all credibility with all their dirty tactics this season. Leaving your feet to slam bergeron into the boards from behind is also a dangerous play that could, oh wait it did injure Bergeron. Not to condone dirty plays but the Flyers should be the last ones crying.

Flyers are dirty, but why sink to their level?

[ricogarion]

Max is just getting Flyers Nation back for all Russians who never forgave Bobby Clarke for his slash on Kharlamov during the Canada/Soviet Summit Series in 1972

[dwoz9093]

awwwwwwwhhhhhhhh, poor babies. Did the little flyer fall down and go boom !!

[Thumper]

Max has always been a little hot head. When he's in that mood, players around the league should know by now that he really doesn't take anybody's shit. He'll give the elbow, a punch, the stick, and now the slew foot. Good for him. He'll have a longer career because of it.

[scotsho]

Flyers are dirty, but why sink to their level?

Because it makes for good entertainment. He wasn't going to get hurt there, its when your moving and slew foot that you hurt someone.

Max is a little crazy - I like it. Lindy just has to keep him under control.

[nfg801]

definitely a slew-foot but i don't think he tried to kick him, another player grabbed him and i think he was keeping his balance. I don't care a lot of cheap shots are taken around the net, I think Sundin leads the league in that category

[Scary Good]

It's one of those things...you are talented, and the big guy takes you don't...give him a whack back or don't ever goto the front of the net again. I think Vanek still needs to get a bit more nasty.

[Thumper]

It's one of those things...you are talented, and the big guy takes you don't...give him a whack back or don't ever goto the front of the net again. I think Vanek still needs to get a bit more nasty.

It'd be cool if Vanek had that kind of a switch that he could hit, like Max does. But Vanek takes that beating in front of the net, and keeps going back there every time he supposed to, no matter what anyone has done to him. That's a form of toughness for sure. Chris Drury had the same kind of tenacity. He never really whacked anybody back, but all the sticks and elbows and crosscheck's and everything else that he had to deal with never prevented him from putting himself where he knew he could create goals. Vanek is great at that as well, and it sure is a form of toughness to take all that abuse. What I'm saying is, I love that he just goes back for more everytime. Sometimes that can mean even more than taking a swipe back at someone, and risk putting your team down a man.

[Smapdi]

hockey is a rough game

[bduff54]

dirty play and vastly considered one of the pussiest things you can do to somebody, i have seen guys bash the back of their heads of the ice because of that. cone on max, just deck the guy with a punch to the face man.

That being said the flyers are a dirty team, it was bound to happen to them eventually

[CrazzyLegs10]

oh roody poo poo for the flyers. god forbid they are on the other end of a "dirty" play.

[GOBILLSGO!!!]

dirty play and vastly considered one of the pussiest things

Is this why the leafs are a bunch of pussys? And here I just thought they sucked...bad. ;)

[billsfan69]

Flyers are dirty, but why sink to their level?

I'm not saying we should sink to the flyers level, what I was saying is it is hypocritical of the flyers to cry about cheap shots when they have delivered enough bad ones this year to get over 50 games in suspensions.

[SabreBill30]

Max sending the message.

[ddpderek]

Hockey is a ment to be a dirty game at times and im all for it. its not like the flyers didnt give out any dirty hits of there own including Biron smacking several Sabres in the legs during and after play.

[Papaduke]

Good for Max... its a bit of Karma biting the Flyers in the ass.

[SabresBlueGold]

Karma's a bitch. Cry Flyers, Cry. Not to mention you could look at at tape of most every game and see this very same thing happen in front of the net at least once. Once of the previous posters hit the nail on the head stating that the danger of the slew foot is when the players are moving. Going into the corner and slew-footing a guy is dangerous. Putting him on his ass in front of the net is just hockey.

[Ralonzo]

I don't care a lot of cheap shots are taken around the net, I think Sundin leads the league in that category

The Grinning Gelding leads the planet in that category.

Slew-foots are cheap, and yeah, people get hurt by them (Heatley on Tallinder last year).

That said, Ph*ck Filly.

[bduff54]

you guys are proud of this? i wouldnt' be, man up and punch him in the face

[SabresBlueGold]

Why not? He did what he had to do. Like I said it happens all the time and I have no problem with Afinogenov taking care of business in front of the net. He gets cross-checked, speared, slashed, and roughed constantly all game long, so him tripping up a guy in front of the net is a minor sin in my book. He doesn't have a history of throwing cheap shots a-la a Mats Sundin so I'll give him a ton of slack on this one.

[bduff54]

Why not? He did what he had to do. Like I said it happens all the time and I have no problem with Afinogenov taking care of business in front of the net. He gets cross-checked, speared, slashed, and roughed constantly all game long, so him tripping up a guy in front of the net is a minor sin in my book. He doesn't have a history of throwing cheap shots a-la a Mats Sundin so I'll give him a ton of slack on this one.

he does not get speared on a regular basis, mats does some ticky tack crap all the time, but it is usually a face wash or punch to the mouth. not a slew foot, that is low man

[Sabres244]

How many of you would be calling Lupul dirty had it happened to do it to Max?

[SCBILLFAN1]

If he had done that in my old mens league we would have kicked the crap out of him.
Can't support cheap shots.

[Thumper]

How many of you would be calling Lupul dirty he happened to do it to Max?

Lupul is dirty without doing that to Max. What's your point?

[SabresBlueGold]

he does not get speared on a regular basis, mats does some ticky tack crap all the time, but it is usually a face wash or punch to the mouth. not a slew foot, that is low man

You know what, I'm sick and tired of "oh well it wasn't so bad so it doesn't matter..." Max played a little dirty there. Dirty is dirty. There's no denying that. My point is I don't care. There are so many other "little" plays that get swept under the rug because no one gets hurt. Like the Sundin BS. So, since no one got hurt...*******-it. More power to ya Max. You Sundin'ed the guy and got away with it. Kudos.

[Sabres244]

Lupul is dirty without doing that to Max. What's your point?

Since when has Lupul been labeled a dirty player?

[bduff54]

haah, how is a face wash the same as a slew foot sabresgold? that is a dangerous play.

Thumper once again shows his lack of knowledge by calling lupul dirty, wow

[ddpderek]

Hockey should be dirty at times.

This is not a pussy game crap happens deals with it.

[SabreBill30]

I will say that Max doesn't usually look to do something like this unless someone did something to him first.

[Thumper]

haah, how is a face wash the same as a slew foot sabresgold? that is a dangerous play.

Thumper once again shows his lack of knowledge by calling lupul dirty, wow

Lack of knowledge....Funny, duff.

Lupul is the guy that body checked Spacek after the game was over in Buffalo, which almost lead to a brawl. He also hit Spacek from behind in the same game....So what's dirty, almighty Leafs fan??

[bduff54]

Lack of knowledge....Funny, duff.

Lupul is the guy that body checked Spacek after the game was over in Buffalo, which almost lead to a brawl. He also hit Spacek from behind in the same game....So what's dirty, almighty Leafs fan??

don't try and pretend you know who lupul even is thumper, the kid is one of the softest players out there, if you followed the sport you would know that. It has been a huge knock on him his whole career. in the last 162 games he has 81 PIM, those are not the numbers of a dirty player. a hit after the whistle hardly puts him in the dirty category, max is not dirty either, that was just a sneaky play by him and he should not be doing that stuff.

[Thumper]

don't try and pretend you know who lupul even is thumper, the kid is one of the softest players out there, if you followed the sport you would know that. It has been a huge knock on him his whole career. in the last 162 games he has 81 PIM, those are not the numbers of a dirty player. a hit after the whistle hardly puts him in the dirty category, max is not dirty either, that was just a sneaky play by him and he should not be doing that stuff.

You got me again. I don't follow the sport of hockey. I have know idea how any players in this league play. I wouldn't know an Eastern Conference soft ass if he hit me right in the face.

Hey, when Lupul wins the Lady Bing, go ahead come at me. Anyone that has a chance to get a guy back for something he's pissed about, and doesn't do it until after his team lost, and he doesn't do it until after the final buzzer has already gone off, you're automatically a coward/dirty/cheap/filthy scumbag in my book. I don't care how he's been in the past. At least Max takes care of buisness during the game. Lupul can't even say that. And you've got some balls attacking my hockey knowledge. I'll go toe-to-toe with you anytime in this field. Obviously you have some more problems with things I've said in the past to back up these unmerited attacks, right? This runs deeper than the Lupul comments. Please, duff, I'm all ears. Back it up.

[bduff54]

You got me again. I don't follow the sport of hockey. I have know idea how any players in this league play. I wouldn't know an Eastern Conference soft ass if he hit me right in the face.

Hey, when Lupul wins the Lady Bing, go ahead come at me. Anyone that has a chance to get a guy back for something he's pissed about, and doesn't do it until after his team lost, and he doesn't do it until after the final buzzer has already gone off, you're automatically a coward/dirty/cheap/filthy scumbag in my book. I don't care how he's been in the past. At least Max takes care of buisness during the game. Lupul can't even say that. And you've got some balls attacking my hockey knowledge. I'll go toe-to-toe with you anytime in this field. Obviously you have some more problems with things I've said in the past to back up these unmerited attacks, right? This runs deeper than the Lupul comments. Please, duff, I'm all ears. Back it up.

nah, no need

[Thumper]

nah, no need

This is why you're a dirty poster. You make up false accusations about someone without backing them up. That was a cop out post, scab.....How very Joffrey Lupul of you. And for the record, just because a player isn't labeled as being physical enough, or he's "soft" doesn't mean they're not capable of being dirty. Just like Lupul displayed for us which you apparently didn't watch.

[SabresBlueGold]

haah, how is a face wash the same as a slew foot sabresgold? that is a dangerous play.

Thumper once again shows his lack of knowledge by calling lupul dirty, wow

Once again you choose to look at a microcosm of the facts to make your argument sound appealing. Well, jabbing a guy with the point of your stick is pretty dangerous too and I've seen Sundin do that a hundred times after the play. Or how about shoving a guy from behind after the play, something that I've also seen the "great" Sundin do?

Afinogenov put a guy on his ass. He used his foot to trip him to get him there. Boo hoo. No one is the worse for wear. Everyone really needs to get over it.

[bduff54]

This is why you're a dirty poster. You make up false accusations about someone without backing them up. That was a cop out post, scab.....How very Joffrey Lupul of you. And for the record, just because a player isn't labeled as being physical enough, or he's "soft" doesn't mean they're not capable of being dirty. Just like Lupul displayed for us which you apparently didn't watch.

dude, i backed it up by telling you how many PIMS lupul has had and how he has a rep of being soft. bumping spacek after the game is hardly the work of a 'dirty" player. you can't just call guys dirty with no evidence, unless you call that little bump a filthy play.

[bduff54]

Once again you choose to look at a microcosm of the facts to make your argument sound appealing. Well, jabbing a guy with the point of your stick is pretty dangerous too and I've seen Sundin do that a hundred times after the play. Or how about shoving a guy from behind after the play, something that I've also seen the "great" Sundin do?

Afinogenov put a guy on his ass. He used his foot to trip him to get him there. Boo hoo. No one is the worse for wear. Everyone really needs to get over it.

i have been watching sundin for his entire career, where are these jabs with his stick and his vicious hits from behind? you completely made that up. Like i said, mats will definitely punch a guy in the mouth with his glove on or face wash a guy. Tripping a guy like max did can cause a guy to bash the back of his head off the ice, i have seen it a bunch of times. again, i am not saying max is dirty i am just saying it was a pussy thing to do.

[Thumper]

dude, i backed it up by telling you how many PIMS lupul has had and how he has a rep of being soft. bumping spacek after the game is hardly the work of a 'dirty" player. you can't just call guys dirty with no evidence, unless you call that little bump a filthy play.

Do I really need to type it again? So the guy doesn't take a lot of penalties. Big deal, duff. Officials don't always call everything either. He displayed what a dirty player he was in the first Sabres/Flyers game, which you clearly did not watch. "Little bump", huh? It almost started an all out brawl in Ryan Miller's end while the Flyers had 6 players on the ice. So when the Sabres were out numbered and had already won the game, only THEN did Lupul have the balls to make a statement. YES. That is filthy. And par for the course for any Flyer. I don't know what it is....Maybe its the colors they're wearing. Maybe it's because they have the scummiest fans in the NHL. Maybe its because when players get traded or signed by that organization, they just feel like they need to be "tough guys". Whatever it is, waiting until the game is over is one of the most cowardly and filthy things you can do in any level. So yeah, maybe you understand why I think Lupul is just another Filthy Flyer like the rest of them.

[bduff54]

Do I really need to type it again? So the guy doesn't take a lot of penalties. Big deal, duff. Officials don't always call everything either. He displayed what a dirty player he was in the first Sabres/Flyers game, which you clearly did not watch. "Little bump", huh? It almost started an all out brawl in Ryan Miller's end while the Flyers had 6 players on the ice. So when the Sabres were out numbered and had already won the game, only THEN did Lupul have the balls to make a statement. YES. That is filthy. And par for the course for any Flyer. I don't know what it is....Maybe its the colors they're wearing. Maybe it's because they have the scummiest fans in the NHL. Maybe its because when players get traded or signed by that organization, they just feel like they need to be "tough guys". Whatever it is, waiting until the game is over is one of the most cowardly and filthy things you can do in any level. So yeah, maybe you understand why I think Lupul is just another Filthy Flyer like the rest of them.

thats cool, slew footing is way dirtier than a hit after the whistle, it is sneaky and from behind. very dirty and very dangerous, sorry thumper but you can't argue that.

[Thumper]

thats cool, slew footing is way dirtier than a hit after the whistle, it is sneaky and from behind. very dirty and very dangerous, sorry thumper but you can't argue that.

You can have that opinion, that's totally fine with me. I wasn't comparing the two at all. You just have a tough time arguing a point once in awhile.

And this wasn't just a shove after the whistle while there is still time left on the clock. So don't minimize what Lupul did to make your slew footing point.

Hitting a guy who knows there's no time left on the game clock and has completely let down his guard could be viewed as just as bad, or even worse. The result wasn't worse, but the potential result was infinitely worse.

[bduff54]

You can have that opinion, that's totally fine with me. I wasn't comparing the two at all. You just have a tough time arguing a point once in awhile.

And this wasn't just a shove after the whistle while there is still time left on the clock. So don't minimize what Lupul did to make your slew footing point.

Hitting a guy who knows there's no time left on the game clock and has completely let down his guard could be viewed as just as bad, or even worse. The result wasn't worse, but the potential result was infinitely worse.

fair enough but atleast he saw it coming, not pulled down from behind by a sneak attack.

[Thumper]

fair enough but atleast he saw it coming, not pulled down from behind by a sneak attack.

Like I said, duff. You clearly didn't see it. Spacek didn't see it coming. It put Miller at a huge risk because if a brawl broke out, and Philly had 6 guys on the ice to the Sabres 5, Miller would have basically been forced to participate. What are the repercussions then?

But all of that doesn't matter because your hockey knowledge exceeds mine. And none of that makes Lupul a dirty player.

[Scary Good]

Mats is SO dirty.

[Meathead]

slewing = dirty

supporting slewing = classless

[SabresBlueGold]

i have been watching sundin for his entire career, where are these jabs with his stick and his vicious hits from behind? you completely made that up. Like i said, mats will definitely punch a guy in the mouth with his glove on or face wash a guy. Tripping a guy like max did can cause a guy to bash the back of his head off the ice, i have seen it a bunch of times. again, i am not saying max is dirty i am just saying it was a pussy thing to do.

Yes, Sundin jabs at people with his stick. I've seen him do it. If you haven't, well, I can't blame you. Your a Leafs fan. You selectively block those things out. And, I never said that his hits from behind were vicious. Watch a scrum in from of the net when Sundin is on the ice. He'll of course stay out of the way so as not to break a nail and will come up beihind someone and start shoving. Talk about pussy plays. Sundin practically invented the art. Max a pussy? Hardly. Sundin...well let's just say he needs a good kick in the C-U Next Tuesday

[bduff54]

Yes, Sundin jabs at people with his stick. I've seen him do it. If you haven't, well, I can't blame you. Your a Leafs fan. You selectively block those things out. And, I never said that his hits from behind were vicious. Watch a scrum in from of the net when Sundin is on the ice. He'll of course stay out of the way so as not to break a nail and will come up beihind someone and start shoving. Talk about pussy plays. Sundin practically invented the art. Max a pussy? Hardly. Sundin...well let's just say he needs a good kick in the C-U Next Tuesday

i have never seen sundin use his stick as a weapon, not once. you made that up man. unless you are talking about the odd slash on the shin pads or something, but nobody gets hurt from that. i am not saying sundin is a saint and i am not saying max is dirty, i am just saying his slew foot was very dangerous and i would not be proud of it like you are. i would be way more proud if he fought someone

[Thumper]

So duff, what about our Lupul conversation? Have you backed your way out of that one now too? Come on. I need your superior hockey intelligence to take us to some sort of conclusion. You still haven't backed up that cheap shot comment you threw my way. Either back it up, or swallow your Irish pride and retract it.

[bduff54]

So duff, what about our Lupul conversation? Have you backed your way out of that one now too? Come on. I need your superior hockey intelligence to take us to some sort of conclusion. You still haven't backed up that cheap shot comment you threw my way. Either back it up, or swallow your Irish pride and retract it.

you called him dirty, we have discussed why he is not dirty, anybody that calls a pansy like lupul "dirty" does not follow the game properly. he has been ripped for years for being too soft, its like calling connolly dirty

[Thumper]

you called him dirty, we have discussed why he is not dirty, anybody that calls a pansy like lupul "dirty" does not follow the game properly. he has been ripped for years for being too soft, its like calling connolly dirty

So now I don't "follow the game properly". Hahahahahaa....What else can you come up with?

When Connolly takes a shot at someone, while his team has the extra man on the ice, after the game over, and that player isn't ready for the cheap shot, I'll call it dirty. A spade is a spade with me. Obviously not with you. I love how you still haven't admitted that you didn't watch that Sabres/Flyers game, yet you're having this conversation with me regarding something that happened in it. You must be relying on you're unprecedented hockey knowledge. No wonder you're losing the argument. As per usual.

[SabresBlueGold]

I rest my case...

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So don't give me that "he never uses his stick as a weapon" crap. I could posta few more videos if you like...

[bduff54]

I rest my case...

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So don't give me that "he never uses his stick as a weapon" crap. I could posta few more videos if you like...

ahahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, a weapon??????? even thumper will back me up on this one. That is a basic hook or slash in the NHL, those plays happen all the time, come on man that is a 2 minute minor at worst. There is nothing dirty or cheap about that play at all, it was just a dumb penalty.

[Thumper]

ahahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, a weapon??????? even thumper will back me up on this one. That is a basic hook or slash in the NHL, those plays happen all the time, come on man that is a 2 minute minor at worst. There is nothing dirty or cheap about that play at all, it was just a dumb penalty.

Sorry, duff. That was a ridiculous slash. Sundin is lucky he didn't get suspended.

[bduff54]

So now I don't "follow the game properly". Hahahahahaa....What else can you come up with?

When Connolly takes a shot at someone, while his team has the extra man on the ice, after the game over, and that player isn't ready for the cheap shot, I'll call it dirty. A spade is a spade with me. Obviously not with you. I love how you still haven't admitted that you didn't watch that Sabres/Flyers game, yet you're having this conversation with me regarding something that happened in it. You must be relying on you're unprecedented hockey knowledge. No wonder you're losing the argument. As per usual.

cool thumper, lets just forget it, we could go all day like this. Neither one of us will give up.
Our versions of a "dirty" player are obviously different, one little incident does not make you dirty in my mind, you have to be a repeat offender to earn that title.

[Thumper]

ahahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, a weapon??????? even thumper will back me up on this one. That is a basic hook or slash in the NHL, those plays happen all the time, come on man that is a 2 minute minor at worst. There is nothing dirty or cheap about that play at all, it was just a dumb penalty.

Hahahahaha, just kidding. I'll definitely back you up on this one. That was just a dumb penalty that will happen 3 times a game.

[bduff54]

Sorry, duff. That was a ridiculous slash. Sundin is lucky he didn't get suspended.

thumper please god tell me you are not serious? please man, if you are serious you will just be proving my previous statement about you. anybody else reading this right now is laughing at you guys, sabres244, Teh c, all those guys that follow this game. That play was a run of the mill slash, it was a 2 minute minor at best and happens atleast 2 or 3 times in every single game.

[bduff54]

just read you're post thumper, thank god you were kidding, lol

[Thumper]

cool thumper, lets just forget it, we could go all day like this. Neither one of us will give up.
Our versions of a "dirty" player are obviously different, one little incident does not make you dirty in my mind, you have to be a repeat offender to earn that title.

That's fine with me. Lupul will forever be dirty in my book for being as low as enticing a brawl, after the game had already ended, around Miller's net, and with the Sabres outnumbered on the ice. That was almost as cowardly as it gets if you ask me. He just didn't have the balls to do anything worse. But he still provided that spark. Admittedly, the fact that he wears black and orange makes that a lot easier for me. But I know how that organization operates. He probably wouldn't have even done that had he been wearing another teams colors. That jersey brings out the worst in people.

[Thumper]

thumper please god tell me you are not serious? please man, if you are serious you will just be proving my previous statement about you. anybody else reading this right now is laughing at you guys, sabres244, Teh c, all those guys that follow this game. That play was a run of the mill slash, it was a 2 minute minor at best and happens atleast 2 or 3 times in every single game.

Hahahaha, that reaction from you was priceless. I needed to see that :D You were so worried that I was serious. Haahahahaaaaaa....

[bduff54]

Hahahaha, that reaction from you was priceless. I needed to see that :D You were so worried that I was serious. Haahahahaaaaaa....

haaha, no doubt man. can you believe that guy? he actually thinks that is a vicious play

[SabresBlueGold]

ahahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, a weapon??????? even thumper will back me up on this one. That is a basic hook or slash in the NHL, those plays happen all the time, come on man that is a 2 minute minor at worst. There is nothing dirty or cheap about that play at all, it was just a dumb penalty.

Oh for crap's sake. You blow everything out of proportion. I wasn't trying to say that Sundin is the next McSorly or something but I was trying to back up my statement about Sundin getting at people with his stick. You're the one who used the term "weapon" before.

Ugh, I'm tired of arguing about this. Nobody is going to change their mind on how they feel about the situation. Bottom line is I like Afinogenov showing some fire. If it was a dirty play, so be it. End of story.





Oh and Sundin is still a panzy :D

[SabresBlueGold]

haaha, no doubt man. can you believe that guy? he actually thinks that is a vicious play

And I'm not saying that any of this was "vicious" either. That's been my point all along. Max never intended to injure anyone any more than Sundin intends to when he pulls his ticky-tack stuff. Should Max have slew-footed the guy? Well, no, but he did and he was doing so becuase he was playing hard and wanted to throw someone to the ground. I'm OK with that. Should Sundin (or anyone else for that matter) be slashing people? Well, again, no, but we let it go because it's rarely done with enough force to injure someone, let alone with the intent to. Maybe I would feel differently if we were talking about a different team. My biased hate for the Flyers may be getting the best of me, but I cheer for Max every time I see that video clip. My God do I hate that team (as if you can't tell)

[Thumper]

Sundin has done worse with his stick and without his stick. He's no angel, just like Afinogenov isn't either. Now, as far as who's "dirtier" after the play? Sundin is, no doubt. Just because we can't find any high-sticking calls against Sundin on youtube, or any stick infractions from him, that doesn't mean he hasn't done it before. Many players do.

[bduff54]

for sure mats is dirtier after the whistle, but they are minor little things, never seen him slew foot somebody. widely considered a very cheap play.