View Full Version : From Eklund...Could Mathieu Schneider be Moved to Buffalo
blue sonya17
December 6th, 2007, 2:14:03 PM
In order to make room for Scott Niedermayer the Ducks are going to have to move some cap space, and in this world where trades are hard to come by, the Ducks may have to move the player that was brought in as an insurance plan in case Scotty did not return.
It is believed that Marchant is also an option, but at 2.5 per he is not easy to move. Schneider's number, 5.5, is not easy to move either, but Mathieu carries with him serious on-ice value and is viewed as an impact player.
http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=11618
What do you think about Schneider being traded to Buffalo? But I would rather like to see Marchant in Buffalo..even though both will probobly never happen.
pigpen65
December 6th, 2007, 2:16:12 PM
Too Much $$$, not to mention the Sabres have the exact same numbers problem on D that the Ducks do.
atomheart
December 6th, 2007, 2:24:54 PM
Too much money... If we get a new d-man we need a hard-hitting one.
bduff54
December 6th, 2007, 2:26:18 PM
oh eklund, not a chance.
sabres4cup
December 6th, 2007, 2:31:13 PM
Ducks must shed salary, looking to trade
http://www.thefourthperiod.com/tfp_pic262.jpg
With Scott Niedermayer back in the fold, the Ducks are now forced to cut roughly $1 million from next season's salary commitment, according to the Orange County Register.
The Ducks do not have any cap issues this season, however the club's financial commitment of more than $53.2 million to 18 players, including Niedermayer, for next year posses a problem.
As part of the NHL's Collective Bargaining Agreement, a "Tagging Rule" comes into play for the Ducks, which indicates that after December 1 of a season, a player can only join a team if his salary not only fits into the current season payroll, but it must remain within the set salary cap for future years.
"We will have to move contractual obligations for next year," Ducks GM Brian Burke told the Register.
The Los Angeles Times reports forward Todd Marchant and defensemen Francois Beauchemin and Sean O'Donnell could be involved in trade talks.
Sources have told TFP that the Ducks have been trying to make a move for the last few weeks. Even if Niedermayer didn't return, Burke told the Register after assessing the club in the first 20 games of the season he has determined that changes needed to be made.
"We were in eighth place at that point, but all the teams behind us had played fewer games," Burke said. "We viewed that as not being a playoff team, and that's not good enough. We have looked at making changes since the 20-game mark. We started making changes at that point, and we've offered a number of players on our roster."
It's unclear if Niedermayer will fulfill the remainder of his entire contract, which expires after the 2008-09 season, but Burke made it clear "we're not going through this dance again."
Meanwhile, citing a Helsinki newspaper, the Times reports Teemu Selanne will decide between Jan. 1 and the Feb. 26 trade deadline whether to return to the Ducks.
http://www.thefourthperiod.com/news/ana071206.html
Carl J. Ironsides
December 6th, 2007, 4:12:46 PM
Schneider, even though he looks like a rat with a helmet on, would be an incredible pickup. Sadly, it's more bullcrap from Eklund.
TranceDuT
December 6th, 2007, 4:47:29 PM
I'd rather have Marchant. He's a local boy.
Carl J. Ironsides
December 6th, 2007, 4:49:50 PM
I'd rather have Marchant. He's a local boy.
A lower-line grinder over one of the best American-born defensemen in history? I'd take Marchant, too, but not over Schneider.
GilPerreault
December 6th, 2007, 5:01:28 PM
Schneider, even though he looks like a rat with a helmet on, would be an incredible pickup. Sadly, it's more bullcrap from Eklund.
We have our Schneider in Campbell. The Sabres have a cheap mans version of Schneider in Spacek and a potential Schneider in Sekera. I'm all Schneider'd out. 5.5 million a year for an offensive, mobile D-man? Give that coin to Campbell and work on toughening up the D and the team as a whole.
RBM
December 6th, 2007, 5:04:25 PM
i think Ducks will ask a lot for Schneider.
it will be a great pick up but will cost a lot so no...
Carl J. Ironsides
December 6th, 2007, 5:08:10 PM
We have our Schneider in Campbell. The Sabres have a cheap mans version of Schneider in Spacek and a potential Schneider in Sekera. I'm all Schneider'd out. 5.5 million a year for an offensive, mobile D-man? Give that coin to Campbell and work on toughening up the D and the team as a whole.
Not really. Schneider is far better defensively (even offensively) than either Campbell, Spacek or Sekera dream of being.
г
December 6th, 2007, 5:22:50 PM
A good buddy of mine, Todd Mondor was Schneider's defense partner when he played Junior in Cornwall before he went straight to the Canadiens. I'll have to hit him up for some free tix if he gets traded to Buffalo.
Shamrock1989
December 6th, 2007, 5:31:45 PM
For ****s Sake with the Eklund crap. Schneider is to expensive, No way.
GilPerreault
December 6th, 2007, 5:39:44 PM
For ****s Sake with the Eklund crap. Schneider is to expensive, No way.
Too expensive, too old (38) and his style is too redundant when compared to what the Sabres already possess.
smashingt2312
December 6th, 2007, 5:49:32 PM
We dont need another offensive minded defensemen.
Iggy72
December 6th, 2007, 6:53:28 PM
Burke would want some of our good prospects, none of which I'd give up for Schneider at this point if his career.
Pax.
Iggy72
MauvaisSang
December 6th, 2007, 6:56:32 PM
Ducks must shed salary, looking to trade
http://www.thefourthperiod.com/tfp_pic262.jpg
"We will have to move contractual obligations for next year," Ducks GM Brian Burke told the Register.
The Los Angeles Times reports forward Todd Marchant and defensemen Francois Beauchemin and Sean O'Donnell could be involved in trade talks.
http://www.thefourthperiod.com/news/ana071206.html
Any of those three wouldn't be bad additions.
Carl J. Ironsides
December 6th, 2007, 7:05:18 PM
By the way, why would the Ducks want to move Beauchemin? He's developed into an elite defenseman over the past year-plus (some of that has to do with his partner, Pronger), and is averaging over 28 minutes per game, a team high. Meanwhile, O'Donnell brings further toughness and defensive ability at a fair price.
The only one who really makes sense as far as trades go is Marchant. I'd be shocked if Anaheim moved any of its defensemen, Schneider included; however, it doesn't seem Marchant is a necesssary cog for them. That said, I'd welcome him to the Sabres with open arms.
stevesy
December 6th, 2007, 7:32:01 PM
A good buddy of mine, Todd Mondor was Schneider's defense partner when he played Junior in Cornwall before he went straight to the Canadiens. I'll have to hit him up for some free tix if he gets traded to Buffalo.
Oops, you dropped something...
Here, I think it's a name.
RBM
December 6th, 2007, 9:41:01 PM
The Anaheim Ducks are not as caught between a rock and hard place as we thought.
Contrary to what was reported here yesterday, and many other places, the Anaheim Ducks do not have to free up $3 million in salary commitments next season to get Scott Niedermayer into their lineup this season.
The number is actually less than $1 million, about $880,000 to be exact.
This issue of "tagging" room is far more complicated than most of us amateur capologists understand. And while at face value, it looks like the Ducks, with Niedermayer's salary for next season included, have committed dollars totaling $53.5 million, and have to get down to $50.5 million, it's not that basic.
"Tagging" room is like filling out a tax return. You get credits, if you will, that give you extra "tagging" room if it involves players who are in the final year of a contract.
Confused?
Don't worry. All you need to know is that players such as Ilya Bryzgalov, Maxim Kondratiev, Geoff Platt and especially Jonas Hiller have contributed more than $2.5 million in additional tagging room for the Ducks.
In order to get Niedermayer in the lineup now, they now need to lose only $880,000 in salary for next season. So they can trade any player and as long as they come out $880,000 to the good for next season, they're good to go with Niedermayer in the lineup.
Go figure.
http://www.tsn.ca/blogs/mckenzie/?id=224549
Actually Ducks dont have to move Schneider
Carl J. Ironsides
December 6th, 2007, 9:45:11 PM
Thanks for the info, RBM. The only player Anaheim could unload who makes less than $1 million but more than $880,000 next season is Travis Moen, who is due for a $925,000 payday. I would take him in a second; outstanding third- or fourth-line type. A mid-round pick or low-level prospect might do the trick.
RBM
December 6th, 2007, 9:50:57 PM
i know it is a selfish thought but i wish Drew was making bit more so that Ducks will trade him away and Ryan and Drew could play together in Buffalo.
smashingt2312
December 6th, 2007, 9:56:52 PM
Moen is a player we could use, he played a big factor on that checking line with pahlsson during the cup run.
Burke is a very smart gm, he knows what he's doing.
SabresFan220
December 7th, 2007, 12:42:49 AM
If the Ducks want to move Beauchemin I'd be all over it. He's exactly what we need and he's tough too. Remember the fight he had with Iginla in the playoffs last year? Man, I'd give up someone like Zagrapan for him. Marchant is good and all, but $2.5 million is too much for a 3rd line center.
SHINEdown30
December 7th, 2007, 11:29:55 AM
Make a blockbuster trade for Getzlaf. Kid can play and is better than Vanek.
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