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shiva2999
October 24th, 2007, 7:21:17 PM
Back in the fall of 2002, I wrote a number of posts about how international terrorisn was bs because the terrorists weren't doing squat when there were countless ways to terrorize America for no dough and with no personal danger.

Two methods I cited were derailing trains and starting wildfires.

Five years later, Fox picks up on the idea...

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/24/fox-news-al-qaeda-is-causing-the-ca-wildires/

Fox News: Al Qaeda is causing the CA wildfires.

This morning on Fox News, hosts of the show Fox and Friends blamed the wildfires in California on a new culprit: al Qaeda. They pointed to a 2003 FBI memo, which raised the possibility that al Qaeda may try to set wildfires around the western United States. They also noted that men in a “hovering helicopter” saw “a guy starting one of these fires.” Watch it:

Later in the segment, host Steve Doocy acknowledged that in memo, al Qaeda didn’t even mention California. “They mention Colorado, Montana, Utah, and Wyoming,” he added.

Digg It!

Transcript:

DOOCY: You’re looking live at pictures from San Diego — Santiago, CA, where the wildfires continue. We were talking earlier in today’s telecast with Adam Housley and apparently police officers in a hovering helicopter saw a guy starting one of these fires. And Allison Allison Camerota, an FBI memo from late in June of this year is popping up this morning and it is ominous.

CAMEROTA: This actually has happened for many years in the past as well. An FBI sent out to local law-enforcement said that an al Qaeda detainee had given them some information that the next wave of terrorism could be in the form of setting wild fires. Adam Housley said lots of people on his block were asking him about it. Obviously this is something the FBI has looked into. They will continue to investigate it.

CARLSON: If they have this person in custody it probably won’t take long to be able to develop a link if there is one.

KILMEADE: A June 25 memo from the FBI’s Denver offices reported three days ago, excuse me, five days ago, by the Arizona Republic, that is a newspaper, they have been carrying the story and they continue to expand upon it.

DOOCY: Brian, the plot they say, according to this detainee, and they don’t know if the detainee is telling the truth. The plot was to set three or four wildfires. But they don’t mention California. They mention Colorado, Montana, Utah, and Wyoming. We do know for a fact that a number of the fires in southern California are of a suspicious nature and they are investigating arson.

nehemiah
October 24th, 2007, 7:22:49 PM
:rofl:

as al qaeda would say: oy vey.

JimKelly12203
October 24th, 2007, 7:37:54 PM
I'm sorry... if i had ~300 Million dollars at my disposal and i lived in a cave on the Afghan/Pakistani border AND i wanted to hurt this country, it would not be hard.

The war on Terror is a crock people. Wake up!!! SHiva is 10000000000000000000% correct.

Please give me a ****ing break. I make 40,000/year. My wife makes about the same. If we wanted to terrorize this country we could easily do it. If we wanted to terrorize this country with the meager funds we have AND we had a legion of religious zealots hell bent on hitting 72 tight pussy's at our disposal, we could do it so easily i could spit!

You want to foment terror on a country? How about 20 dudes with sniper rifles just randomly shooting people (lee malvo)? There are a million ways to do it and it's not hard. Yet it hasn't been done... WHy?

The war on terror is a joke!

WAKE UP!

35Pete
October 24th, 2007, 7:49:35 PM
What's sad is that people are going to believe this Shiva.

Right here in the PRS they will.

In fact, some chumps actually believe in Santa, Fairy Godmother, Al Qaeda, Easter Bunny...

And they're grownups!

Green Lantern
October 24th, 2007, 8:00:23 PM
Many people believe unproveable things.

shiva2999
October 24th, 2007, 8:03:09 PM
www.foxnews.com/alqaeda/nefariousplots

Fox News

Breaking: Al Qaeda announces signings of famous movie monsters

Los Angeles - In a new video released by Ahman al Zawahiri, Al Qaeda's #2 man, the terrorist group has announced they have come to deals with the agents for Freddy Kruger, Michael Myers and Leatherface.

Financial terms were not announced but Zawahiri said "We are happy to announce the acquisitions of the big three of US slasher movies and are planning to star them in our new 2008 terror surge".

More news as it develops...

pmoon6
October 24th, 2007, 9:46:33 PM
That threat was real.

It has been eliminated.

Send your thank you cards and you contributions to:

Colorado Mountain Militia
P.O.Box 6715
Kremmling, CO, 60419

Our motto is: "We live to serve and kill if necessary"

nehemiah
October 24th, 2007, 10:16:34 PM
ooh! aah! qaeda on the warpath!

35Pete
October 25th, 2007, 7:06:34 AM
That threat was real.

It has been eliminated.

Send your thank you cards and you contributions to:

Colorado Mountain Militia
P.O.Box 6715
Kremmling, CO, 60419

Our motto is: "We live to serve and kill if necessary"

I for one am glad the militia exists. All of them.

Fortunesmith
October 25th, 2007, 9:59:09 AM
I don't believe it was a terrorist action for the simple reason that wildfires can easily be an act of nature or started by accident. In order to terrorize, you need to have it be clear distinction in order for it be in any way effective. It is much the same with a train-derailment. Although it may result in a catastrophe, it will hardly be 'terrorizing'. Now, if you taint a water-supply with anthrax or bomb a train, these are terrorists threats that clear and direct, thusly achieving the goal.

JLB
October 25th, 2007, 10:02:25 AM
Many people believe unproveable things.

It's what gets some up in the morning. :rockon:

Ru
October 25th, 2007, 11:38:37 AM
I actually said this as a joke to my wife, but it is almost comical that Fox News is speculating on it and actually considers itself a legitimate news outlet. Unbelievable.

ticatfan3
October 25th, 2007, 11:43:41 AM
Out of work firefighters have a habit of doing stuff like this. And alot of people just love to start fires. Fires are not knew to this area ,so it is really stupid for shiv to say he predicted something like this and it is even more stupid for people to believe he knows all.When you spewl stupidity long enough, you might get it right once in a blue moon.

Meathead
October 25th, 2007, 11:56:32 AM
i heard it was al qaeda that injured jp losman

Ru
October 25th, 2007, 11:58:34 AM
Out of work firefighters have a habit of doing stuff like this. And alot of people just love to start fires. Fires are not knew to this area ,so it is really stupid for shiv to say he predicted something like this and it is even more stupid for people to believe he knows all.When you spewl stupidity long enough, you might get it right once in a blue moon.

Ummm...I think you're missing his sarcasm.

ticatfan3
October 25th, 2007, 12:03:47 PM
Ummm...I think you're missing his sarcasm.I don't think so. Shiv beleives he is one up on everybody.

shiva2999
October 25th, 2007, 1:19:43 PM
Ummm...I think you're missing his sarcasm.

Sshhh. It's funnier when he thinks I'm serious.

Gibby
October 25th, 2007, 1:36:36 PM
Uh Jimbo I somewhat disagree -now hear me out- I will go out on a very short limb and say Al Qaeda had absolutely nothing to do with this because it is not the fantastic attacks they are historically noted to do. However, they do exist but they are not the vast and expansive network that Bush and co. paint them as. They are relatively small and if anything now they are more of an idea than a network. I think they did fly 4 planes into the WTC, but I think they were helped out in getting here by a relatively small Bushist conspiracy and probably the buildings themselves were wired because even OBL (who if you recall was shocked that the whole thing came down, keep in mind that he is from a family dealing in construction and is himself educated in engineering, when he only wanted to topple the top few floors.) did not expect the whole thing to topple. I don't think there is an absolute maximum evil value on this planet and I think both Al Qaeda and the PNAC seek the same thing. That being said I think The Al Qaeda was greatly aided by the BA.

ticatfan3
October 25th, 2007, 1:52:09 PM
Sshhh. It's funnier when he thinks I'm serious.What is funny ,is that you are serious.

shiva2999
October 25th, 2007, 1:58:58 PM
What is funny ,is that you are serious.

I'm serious about my sarcasm.

Sparx
October 25th, 2007, 3:26:02 PM
http://www.retro.com/employees/lee/Ani/SarcasmMeter2.gif

Sparx
October 25th, 2007, 3:28:58 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4566319.stm

'sarcasm' brain areas discovered

"By comparing healthy people and those with damage to different parts of the brain, they found the front of the brain was key to understanding sarcasm.
Damage to any of three different areas could render individuals unable to understand sarcastic comments."