Two of 'Jena Six' defendants present BET award

[comericatigers]

This is pathetic. BET is nothing more than reverse racism at it's finest. Maybe a memer of the KKK should present a moon man on Mtv or an Oscar. Oh wait a minute, if tv glorified 2 white kids that beat up a black kid tv execs heads would role. BET is nothing more than a bunch of nappy headed ho's.

http://www.thetowntalk.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071019/NEWS01/710190316/1002

:mad2:

[nehemiah]

:rofl:

thread of the year.

[coryjd]

:rofl:

thread of the year.

I completely agree. It SHOULD be thread of the year.

[comericatigers]

:rofl:

thread of the year.

C'mon nehe the race and intellect thread has already told me white people are smarter than black people-scientifically proven and peered review. This was not a very SMART move by BET.

BET promotes violence in gangsta rap videos and now in real life. They also degrade women as well. Are you ok with that nehe?

[uppy]

I agree......hypocricy knows no end in moonbat land

[coryjd]

C'mon nehe the race and intellect thread has already told me white people are smarter than black people-scientifically proven and peered review. This was not a very SMART move by BET.

BET promotes violence in gangsta rap videos and now in real life. They also degrade women as well. Are you ok with that nehe?

Did you ask Nehe a question, expecting a response? Come now, don't be silly! :guy:

[Green Lantern]

I agree......hypocricy knows no end in moonbat land

"Love thy neighbor as thyself" -Mathew 5:43

"Thou shall not kill" -Exodus 20:13

"He was gonna hit me first" -George Bush

[comericatigers]

"Love thy neighbor as thyself" -Mathew 5:43

"Thou shall not kill" -Exodus 20:13

"He was gonna hit me first" -George Bush

The most insightful out of all three.

[nehemiah]

put a noose in a tree - get your ass kicked.

makes sense to me.

don't wanna get your ass kicked? don't put the noose in the tree, stupid.

[comericatigers]

put a noose in a tree - get your ass kicked.

makes sense to me.

don't wanna get your ass kicked? don't put the noose in the tree, stupid.

Don't hang out by the tree that you are not supposed to. How about don't go down certain streets in the city nehe that you are not supposed to.

Also a noose does not equal an ass whooping--the kid could have died and would of if it was not stopped. Using the noose was not right, but almost killing the kid goes far beyond the MEANING of a noose--period

[Scary Good]

Don't hang out by the tree that you are not supposed to. How about don't go down certain streets in the city nehe that you are not supposed to.

Also a noose does not equal an ass whooping--the kid could have died and would of if it was not stopped. Using the noose was not right, but almost killing the kid goes far beyond the MEANING of a noose--period

Take your hood off, honkey.

[comericatigers]

Take your hood off, honkey.

Take your spinning bling off, gangsta

[nehemiah]

Don't hang out by the tree that you are not supposed to. How about don't go down certain streets in the city nehe that you are not supposed to.

Also a noose does not equal an ass whooping--the kid could have died and would of if it was not stopped. Using the noose was not right, but almost killing the kid goes far beyond the MEANING of a noose--period:rofl:

hanging a noose is picking a fight. don't be a pussy when the fight finds you.



did you really mean to post "Don't hang out by the tree that you are not supposed to"? are you ****ing kidding me?

[Scary Good]

You are racist, that's clear.

[comericatigers]

You are racist, that's clear.

yeh you are right. i'm a huge "honkey" racist.

:guy:

[nehemiah]

i guess the lesson is "if the colored folks don't know their place - they should go to jail".

am i right?

is that the argument here?

[comericatigers]

:rofl:

hanging a noose is picking a fight. don't be a pussy when the fight finds you.



did you really mean to post "Don't hang out by the tree that you are not supposed to"? are you ****ing kidding me?

you forgot don't go down certain streets in the city nehe that you are not supposed to.

Both are dumb but both are used none the less.

[Scary Good]

I'm white. And your opinion in this thread makes me sick.

[nehemiah]

you forgot don't go down certain streets in the city nehe that you are not supposed to.

Both are dumb but both are used none the less.i live in "killadelphia" and i have never found a street i "shouldn't go down".

you gotta move out of the sticks, my man.

only hillbillies worry about that shit.

[nehemiah]

o.

and i'm a cracker-ass white boy, too.

[comericatigers]

i guess the lesson is "if the colored folks don't know their place - they should go to jail".

am i right?

is that the argument here?

No the FACTS not lessons are the colored folks committed the violence not the white folks. Therefore the colored folk that committed the violence should not be glorified by BET and handing out rewards on television.

[comericatigers]

o.

and i'm a cracker-ass white boy, too.

:guy:

that's good to know nehe--thanks for sharing

[nehemiah]

No the FACTS not lessons are the colored folks committed the violence not the white folks. Therefore the colored folk that committed the violence should not be glorified by BET and handing out rewards on television.
and why should should the racist piece of shit white boy be glorified by some bengals fan?

**** him.

that little pussy took a beating. get over it.

[comericatigers]

I'm white. And your opinion in this thread makes me sick.

Oh please! My opinion that these kids should not be on BET makes you sick! Grow some thicker skin buddy.

[Scary Good]

Any normal human being would agree that he deserved the ass whoopin.

[comericatigers]

and why should should the racist piece of shit white boy be glorified by some bengals fan?

**** him.

that little pussy took a beating. get over it.

:guy:

Drunk Bengal fans or BET. Who influences society more--lol? Can't figure that one out.

[comericatigers]

and why should should the racist piece of shit white boy be glorified by some bengals fan?

**** him.

that little pussy took a beating. get over it.

Any normal human being would agree that he deserved the ass whoopin.

If the kid would have died, would that be ok with you two?

[nehemiah]

If the kid would have died, would that be ok with you two?did he die? i must have missed that.

did he even have to go to hospital? did he even get stitches? a black eye? a broken bone? what happened to pussy racist guy?

[GSWJ23RICHARDSON]

did he die? i must have missed that.

did he even have to go to hospital? did he even get stitches? a black eye? a broken bone? what happened to pussy racist guy?


From what I've heard of the situation (and its quite the hot topic down here in New Orleans) the white kid was beaten up good, but nothing too too bad. He actually went out to a party later in the day after he was "beaten so badly".

[Carl J. Ironsides]

If you wanna play, you've gotta pay. That's what happens when you put a noose in a tree; someone should have told certain southern whites long ago that the Union, not the Confederacy, won the Civil War. What is so hard to fathom about that?

And in the words of Rodney King, "Cant we all just get along?"

In sum, my fellow cracker got what he deserved.

[Scary Good]

No wonder C Darwin groaned me. God forbid I stick up for a "colored"

[Carl J. Ironsides]

No wonder C Darwin groaned me. God forbid I stick up for a "colored"

Coloreds should swing their gorilla wieners and fail to speak the King's English away from me.

Regards,

cd, Internet icon.

[Gibby]

put a noose in a tree - get your ass kicked.

makes sense to me.

don't wanna get your ass kicked? don't put the noose in the tree, stupid.

how about both groups should be punished? Sorry but the kids that put the nooses up should have been expelled whilst the black kids should have went to jail for assault and battery. They are not martyrs for the cause of social justice and what they did was as shameful as the guys who put the nooses up. Both should have been punished. FACT

[Gibby]

If you wanna play, you've gotta pay. That's what happens when you put a noose in a tree; someone should have told certain southern whites long ago that the Union, not the Confederacy, won the Civil War. What is so hard to fathom about that?

And in the words of Rodney King, "Cant we all just get along?"

In sum, my fellow cracker got what he deserved.

I want to give you a groan and a thanks. A thanks because yes the noose thing was disturbing and the kid should have gotten beat. A groan because the kids did beat the shit out of someone which also bothers me.

[Fortunesmith]

Question:

My step-daughter, who is in 7th grade, said there is a group of black kids in her school that always call her a 'cracker' when they see her either dancing or singing along to hip-hop music. Is she a victim of racism?

[dilbert]

This thread got stupid in a hurry.

There is no defending the jackasses who put up the nooses.

There is no defending the kids who attacked and beat up the kid (who might have not even been involved with the nooses the last I read).

There is no reason for either group of kids to be "glorified" in any way on television.

People who try to defend either side are idiots.

[uppy]

Question:

My step-daughter, who is in 7th grade, said there is a group of black kids in her school that always call her a 'cracker' when they see her either dancing or singing along to hip-hop music. Is she a victim of racism?

I'm not sure if white middle class
kids can be victims

[C Darwin]

Question:

My step-daughter, who is in 7th grade, said there is a group of black kids in her school that always call her a 'cracker' when they see her either dancing or singing along to hip-hop music. Is she a victim of racism?
She might want to consider supporting another genre of music. Supporting the music of a culture that treats her in that manor seems self destructive.

[Fortunesmith]

She might want to consider supporting another genre of music. Supporting the music of a culture that treats her in that manor seems self destructive.

I think she supports it because it has a good beat and is easy to dance to. When I asked what "Superman dat ho!" meant, she had no clue. Neither do I. I just think that someone calling her a cracker would be somewhat equivalent to calling them ******s. Right?

[ckg68]

Don't hang out by the tree that you are not supposed to. How about don't go down certain streets in the city nehe that you are not supposed to.

Also a noose does not equal an ass whooping--the kid could have died and would of if it was not stopped. Using the noose was not right, but almost killing the kid goes far beyond the MEANING of a noose--period

COULD have died?

Oops....forgot to mention the kid in question recovered enough to attend a ring ceremony the same night. So,apparently,the guys never even came close to killing him. Injuring,yes.

Damn,dude's got quick healing capability!

[C Darwin]

I think she supports it because it has a good beat and is easy to dance to. When I asked what "Superman dat ho!" meant, she had no clue. Neither do I. I just think that someone calling her a cracker would be somewhat equivalent to calling them ******s. Right?
That's the way I choose to take it (if it's in the context of your step-daughters situation). To "superman a ho" is a part of dance routine that simulates sexual aggression towards a female.

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[Scary Good]

I think she supports it because it has a good beat and is easy to dance to. When I asked what "Superman dat ho!" meant, she had no clue. Neither do I. I just think that someone calling her a cracker would be somewhat equivalent to calling them ******s. Right?

You don't wanna know what Superman, or Super soak that ho means.

[coryjd]

put a noose in a tree - get your ass kicked.

makes sense to me.

don't wanna get your ass kicked? don't put the noose in the tree, stupid.

Get your facts straight. It was not the same kid that put the noose up. And even if it was, do you live in a world where two wrongs make a right? Because last time I checked, that's not the way the world worked. These young 'brothas' should have ignored it. We are constantly subjected to the black people's garbage, in the news, media, music, entertainment, etc - and you do not see us out there shooting and killing these morons.

What a joke Nehe.

[nehemiah]

Get your facts straight. It was not the same kid that put the noose up. And even if it was, do you live in a world where two wrongs make a right? Because last time I checked, that's not the way the world worked. These young 'brothas' should have ignored it. We are constantly subjected to the black people's garbage, in the news, media, music, entertainment, etc - and you do not see us out there shooting and killing these morons.

What a joke Nehe.:rofl:

who's "us"?

you got a frog in your pocket?

[coryjd]

:rofl:

who's "us"?

you got a frog in your pocket?

That's your biggest argument or response? The semantics of my post? HAHAHA This really is funny shit. Nevermind the fact that you were WRONG!

[nehemiah]

That's your biggest argument or response? The semantics of my post? HAHAHA This really is funny shit. Nevermind the fact that you were WRONG!so is the kid who got beat up so bad he made the dance that night the one who hung the noose, or no?

kinda makes a difference, eh?

:yawn:

[comericatigers]

did he die? i must have missed that.

did he even have to go to hospital? did he even get stitches? a black eye? a broken bone? what happened to pussy racist guy?

The attack on Barker
On December 4, 2006, 17-year-old Justin Barker, a white Jena High School student, was assaulted at school. According to court documents, someone hit Barker from behind, knocking him out, and then others began to kick and stomp his "lifeless" body. He spent about three hours in a local emergency room for treatment of injuries to his head and face.[23]

Superintendent Breithaupt stated that the attack was no ordinary schoolyard fight. "It was a premeditated ambush and attack by six students against one," Breithaupt said. "The victim attacked was beaten and kicked into a state of bloody unconsciousness."[24]

According to relatives of the accused, the six defendants have all been expelled from school.[25]


[edit] Barker's injuries
A doctor treated Barker at the local hospital emergency room. He was released after three hours of treatment and observation for a concussion and an eye that had swollen shut.[10] The emergency physician's record shows that he also had injuries to his face, ears and hand.[26] He was able to attend his school's Ring ceremony that evening,[10] though he later testified, "I waited 11 years to go to it. I wasn't going to let that get in my way," and that he ended up leaving early due to pain.[27]

During the trial, Barker also testified that his face was badly swollen after the attack and that he suffered a loss of vision in one eye for three weeks. He also stated that he suffered recurring headaches and forgetfulness[28] since the attack, though medical tests have not isolated the cause.[27] A nurse testified that Barker had a previous history of migraines.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jena_Six#The_attack_on_Barker


:rofl:

hanging a noose is picking a fight. don't be a pussy when the fight finds you.



did you really mean to post "Don't hang out by the tree that you are not supposed to"? are you ****ing kidding me?

At Jena High School, about 10% of enrolled students are black and more than 85% are white. Early reporting asserted that students of different races seldom sat together, although this has been disputed.[5] According to early reports, black students typically sat on bleachers near the auditorium, while white students sat under a large tree, referred to as the "white tree" or "prep tree," in the center of the school courtyard.[6] According to some teachers and administrators at the school, the tree in question wasn't always a "white tree," and students of all races sat under it at one time or another.[5]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jena_Six#The_attack_on_Barker

Looks like Jenna wasn't to integrated and EVEN had their own spots to hang out where others weren't welcome.

[coryjd]

so is the kid who got beat up so bad he made the dance that night the one who hung the noose, or no?

kinda makes a difference, eh?

:yawn:

Your arguments are pathetic and weak. I'll laugh my ass off when some group of black guys pound your brains into the concrete, and yet somehow - you still was restitution.

[dilbert]

Neh, why do you call the kid that was attacked "Pussy racist guy"?

As far as I know, it was never proven or confirmed that he was involved with the noose.

Honest question - Were the attackers right in what they did?

[nehemiah]

1. i have yet to hear a denial about pussy white boy hanging the noose. considering that would be a HUGE evidentiary term - if he didn't hang it, we woulda heard it.

2. he went to a dance THAT NIGHT. he was not beat that bad. all the other effects are allegations by a pussy white boy.

3. if you hang a noose and look for a fight - nehemiah has ZERO compassion when you get your ass beat.

[nehemiah]

Your arguments are pathetic and weak. I'll laugh my ass off when some group of black guys pound your brains into the concrete, and yet somehow - you still was restitution.:yawn:

[comericatigers]

Neh, why do you call the kid that was attacked "Pussy racist guy"?

As far as I know, it was never proven or confirmed that he was involved with the noose.

Honest question - Were the attackers right in what they did?

Answer the question nehe--you have a problem doing that.

[QUOTE=nehemiah;1809565] 1. i have yet to hear a denial about pussy white boy hanging the noose. considering that would be a HUGE evidentiary term - if he didn't hang it, we woulda heard it.

2. he went to a dance THAT NIGHT. he was not beat that bad. all the other effects are allegations by a pussy white boy.

3. if you hang a noose and look for a fight - nehemiah has ZERO compassion when you get your ass beat. [QUOTE]
__________________________________________________ _______________
1. And you haven't heard that he hung the noose. Innocent until proven guilty nehe--you preach it only when it appeals to you.

2. actually here is what happened: [B]He was able to attend his school's Ring ceremony that evening,[10] though he later testified, "I waited 11 years to go to it. I wasn't going to let that get in my way," and that he ended up leaving early due to pain.[27]

I wouldn't let some *******s keep me from ceremony etiher--would you


3. your opinion. if you are convicted of beating the shit out of a kid you should not be glorified on tv by BET--my opinion. Do you agree nehe with me nehe? i know you have a tough time answering questions

[nehemiah]

huh?

i answered your question.

if you hang a noose - you deserve to get your ass beat.

i answered that question 25,000 posts ago.

sheesh.

[dilbert]

That sounds a lot like Cowboy Justice.

GWB would be proud!!!! :D

[35Pete]

i live in "killadelphia" and i have never found a street i "shouldn't go down".

you gotta move out of the sticks, my man.

only hillbillies worry about that shit.

I did get mugged at Leroy and Filmore when I was 23 coming home from ECMC (work).

So yes, there's at least one street that I shouldn't have walked down. But hey. It was the day before payday, I was broke, and had to walk home from work.

Wearing scrubs, dressed like a surgeon at 4 am didn't help either though. LOL.

BET is full of racists. They all outta swing.

[uppy]

Any normal human being would agree that he deserved the ass whoopin.

and would agree the punks deserve to go to jail that did it

[pmoon6]

That sounds a lot like Cowboy Justice.

GWB would be proud!!!! :DCowboy Justice is when the neck goes into the loop, you tighten it, and the guilty party drops twelve feet.

East Coast Justice is when you talk about it for two days and everyone dies from boredom.

Except in Philadelphia.

They just hit you in the head with a blackjack and say you fell on the curb. The Philly PD comes and nobody saw nothin'.

Case closed.

I used to ask myself why I moved west.

The answer is.... it's so much more civilized.

[pmoon6]

I did get mugged at Leroy and Filmore when I was 23 coming home from ECMC (work).

So yes, there's at least one street that I shouldn't have walked down. But hey. It was the day before payday, I was broke, and had to walk home from work.

Wearing scrubs, dressed like a surgeon at 4 am didn't help either though. LOL.

BET is full of racists. They all outta swing.That's embarrassing.

I hope you never end up in jail.

Just goes goes to show ya. You can be the smartest, most edumacated guy and you can still end up on the low end of the totem pole.

Did 'dem bad boys git some of dat white booty?

[35Pete]

That's embarrassing.

I hope you never end up in jail.

Just goes goes to show ya. You can be the smartest, most edumacated guy and you can still end up on the low end of the totem pole.

Did 'dem bad boys git some of dat white booty?

LMAO!!!!

I was broke and 3 miles from home and my shift ended at 3am.

I actually WASN'T a surgeon bro. And that young I couldn't afford to have the new Mercedes repaired.

[FamousAmos]

2. he went to a dance THAT NIGHT. he was not beat that bad. all the other effects are allegations by a pussy white boy.

I got a problem with this one, Nehe.

Its the act of getting jumped by six people against one that is unfair. You have a problem with someone, you go mano y mano.

Regardless of the noose situation, six guys against one, who are the pussies?

I'll give you a quick example.

White boy hanging outside a club, a little drunk, looking for his ID to get in to the club.

Wakes up in the emergency room, looking up at a nruse and the overnight doctor. Can't find his wallet and was told by the medical staff he was beaten up by two young gang members.

White boy was dragged a hundred yards before the gang members were scared off by an off duty fireman/paramedic.

Walked out with a fat lip.

So...regardless of the circumstances surrounding the attack on this kid, the fact that he walked out with a fat lip, despite being jumped from behind by two guys, is he a pussy? By youre reasoning, right?

Does the fact that he walked out with minimal injuries detract from the crime perpetrated on him by the two gang members (there was a third who was driving the car, all three caught later with the wallet, phone and other personal ID of the white boy)?

I'm just trying to get a handle on your reasoning, NeHe.

Im okay with the fact that youre calling the white kid in question, who got beat up by the six black kids, a pussy for instigating the black kids by displaying a noose in a tree.

Im not okay with calling the kid a pussy because he was able to go to a dance the same night after being jumped by six kids.

After I got out of the hospital, I was still pissed that those ****ers stole my wallet and didn't give me a chance to fight. But I guess I was a pussy for only getting a fat lip out of it, huh?

NeHe, your post sucks.

[nehemiah]

:rofl:

FINALLY - someone will attack the substance of nehemiah's posts. although it's pretty weird to use your own personal experiences like that... so don't get angry and assume nehemiah is talking about your experience. he's not.

in re: "jena 6" --> honestly, i find it extremely hard to believe that any body who got jumped by six guys would only end up w/ minimal injuries. i really doubt that the pussy white boy got jumped by six kids - otherwise he would have ended up w/ way more damage done to him. i have a suspicion there was six kids surrounding him but i'll bet you that they didn't all smack him around.

and, for the record, six against one is a pussy move.

so the pussy white boy got beat up by six pussy black kids.

[Meathead]

on a scale of one to ten lets grade all the wrongness up in hmya

10 - hanging nooses in the 'white tree' cuz black kids wanted to sit under it too

10 - administrators labeling noose hangings a prank and not immediately suspending crackers who hung them. note to jena: vote those blind idiots out next cycle

10 - bet glorifying j6 defendants in the black community that already has violence problems by inviting them to present an award. basically a nationally broadcast ‘ni@@a moment’ (see boondocks)

9 - six young black men attacking a white boy in response. the only reason this isnt a ten is cuz i can imagine the roaring frustration when those colored boys had to watch administrators hand slap the vile noose hangers. that makes me furious i can imagine what it did to them. unfortunately they then decided to act just like ghetto ni@@as instead of men with mlk wisdom. he died for you people, meaning all of us, and you represent like this. for shame. find another way my brothers

9 - tiger suggesting negros shouldnt hang out by the white tree

9 - nehe, scary, c19 condoning a premeditated violent reply to noose hanging as appropriate. yeah the white noose hangers deserved an ass kicking but its far better to find another way. and certainly that white boy who allegedly wasnt involved in the nooses didnt deserve it

8 - nehe, scary, c19 not knowing the beaten white kid was not related to the noose hangings. if youre gonna talk retribution smack at least have your facts straight

7 - nehe, gsw, ckg minimizing the white boys injuries by criticizing him going to some ceremony later. the kid was clearly wronged perhaps he was trying to be strong in the face of that wrongness. i applaud his courage. so does mlk

6 - darwin suggesting a white kid should avoid expressing herself to black music cuz she gets racial taunts for it. cmon man

5 - bbi for censoring the word ni@@a. it is now officially a colloquial term that has various and valid meanings based on context. banning the word only contributes to further heightening the separation of races. we cant put that genie back in the bottle, we might as well use the word when appropriate. it challenges us to see the meaning of the word in context and shrinks the space between races

3 - scary for complaining about a neg. you avoided the obligatory complaining about a neg groan cuz it was a mild complaint and you provided justified substance to it

-10 - gib and dil finally setting you sumbeychs straight

-100 me for this post :rockstar: bitches

[nehemiah]

8 - nehe, scary, c19 not knowing the beaten white kid was not related to the noose hangings. if youre gonna talk retribution smack at least have your facts straighti'll get to the rest of you post later...

but just to clarify, mr. meatball..........

the beaten white kid was NOT related to the noose?

why don't you prove that allegation? i patiently await your reply.

sincerely,
nehemiah.

[nehemiah]

9 - nehe, scary, c19 condoning a premeditated violent reply to noose hanging as appropriate. yeah the white noose hangers deserved an ass kicking but its far better to find another way. and certainly that white boy who allegedly wasnt involved in the nooses didnt deserve itthis is incomprehensible, but strangely fascinating. the noose hangers deserved an ass kicking that was NOT an appropriate reply? white boy allegedly NOT involved?

say what?

please provide a translation so we can discuss.

sincerely,
nehemiah

[Meathead]

a) an investigation determined there was no direct link btwn the noose hanging and the beating. its out there go look it up

3) many definitions for an ass kicking. the noose hangers defenlly deserved to be punished for their act. premeditated vigilante violence in response to said vile but nonviolent noose hanging is inappropriate. wwmlkd

dont get too many chances to pwn nehe but we gots one goin on up in hmya :rockstar:

[shiva2999]

It seems to me noose hanging is free speech, no matter how stupid and provocative, and protected by the constitution.

Ass kicking is not.

[Meathead]

well it shouldnt be free speech. its like painting a swastika on the jewish center, or perhaps more accurately hanging swastikas from trees at the jewish center

still its a nonviolent act in and of itself and should not be responded to with violence. violence is reserved for direct self defense. as much as id like to witness noose hangers get their ass whooped i have to resist that urge if i want to be an evolved person. find other ways to make your point

they coulda took pictures of the nooses, staged a sit in or something, and got the national media involved that way. once the story got out it woulda caught on like wildfire cuz most white people have got to the point that they dont want that shit represented anywhere in our culture

of course then sharpton and the other boobs would get involved but at least theyd bring more attention to it. the fact that the black community seems to want to make heros out of the attackers bothers me greatly but thats another topic

[dilbert]

i'll get to the rest of you post later...

but just to clarify, mr. meatball..........

the beaten white kid was NOT related to the noose?

why don't you prove that allegation? i patiently await your reply.

sincerely,
nehemiah.

I always thought the person making an allegation (i.e. the kid was involved) had to provide proof.

Prove to me you did not egg my house last Halloween.

[nehemiah]

I always thought the person making an allegation (i.e. the kid was involved) had to provide proof.

Prove to me you did not egg my house last Halloween.exactly.

thanks.

[dilbert]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/earl-ofari-hutchinson/a-plea-to-jena-6-defendan_b_65616.html

A good article on the subject, btw.

La Salle Parish District Judge J.P. Mauffray Jr.-watchers are adamant that the judge is not a bigot, a back country bumpkin, or a judge who's in the hip pocket of La Salle District Attorney Reed Walters. Mauffray has even been criticized by some conservatives as being too fair-minded; meaning that he's willing to tilt ever so slightly toward working to help some of the troubled teens that parade before him in his juvenile court stay out of jail.

Mauffray seemed anything but the fair-minded, erudite jurist when he revoked the $90,000 bond of centerpiece Jena 6 defendant Mychal Bell. This brought howls of rage from Bell's family, attorneys, the Reverend Al Sharpton, and the thousands that flocked to Jena to demand his freedom. But Mauffray as a key juvenile judge in La Salle Parish, in fact virtually the only judge in the parish that hears juvenile cases, is certainly well familiar with Bell.

He has been involved with Bell to one degree or another when he was charged with four prior offenses. In the past two years, he was hauled into the juvenile court that Mauffray helps oversee on battery and property damage charges. The juvenile court and Mauffray did not toss the book at Bell after he committed those offenses. He was placed on probation in April 2006 until his 18th birthday. With the prior offenses that Bell had, he could have easily been held in juvenile jail for the two year period. That has been the fate of legions of other black teens in legions of juvenile courts throughout the country. Many of these youth that languish in juvenile or even adult jails with fewer prior offenses than Bell. But Mauffray and the juvenile court gave Bell the benefit of the doubt and another chance.

[Meathead]

exactly.

thanks.

lmao he was talking about you numnuts

[nehemiah]

http://pursuingholiness.com/2007/06/27/jena-six-justin-barker-testifies-at-mychal-bell-trial/

http://pursuingholiness.com/2007/09/04/the-jena-6-photo-of-justin-barkers-injuries/


On May 10, police arrested Justin Barker, 17, the white victim of the Dec. 4 beating. He was alleged to have a rifle loaded with 13 bullets stashed behind the seat of his pickup truck parked in the school lot. Barker told police he had forgotten it was there and had no intention of using it.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-elf2u1mmay20,1,3301167.story

is it hunting season? :)


btw, here's a pic from him in the hospital. wow. he really got ****ed up, eh? those 6 big black dudes ****ed him up big time. for real.

[nehemiah]

lmao he was talking about you numnutsi'm aware of who he was talking about.

but he still proved nehemiah's point.


numbnuts.

[nehemiah]

and since meatball and dilbert have been known to spin a story or two.

here is nehemiah's bottom line... if you pick a fight, don't be a pussy when someone beats your ass.

[dilbert]

and since meatball and dilbert have been known to spin a story or two.

here is nehemiah's bottom line... if you pick a fight, don't be a pussy when someone beats your ass.

We're spinning?

:rofl:

Look in the mirror.

But, hey who cares if the kid was involved? (You seem to want to avoid offerring any evidence or citing any place it said he was involved.)

He deserved it for being a honkey with a gun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[nehemiah]

We're spinning?

:rofl:

Look in the mirror.

But, hey who cares if the kid was involved? (You seem to want to avoid offerring any evidence or citing any place it said he was involved.)

He deserved it for being a honkey with a gun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!so he was not involved? are you sure? did they ever find out who hung the noose? please tell me WHY they would punch him in the eye, then?

why are you NOT held to the same standard of evidence as you want nehemiah to be held? we should just take the white guy's word for it? but the six black guys - being coloured - are lying... of course.

so what is your hypothesis?

are they just six wild and wooly negroes looking for the only white boy in the class? were they so blind w/ african rage that they picked on him?

or is it more reasonable to believe that pussy white boy hung a noose or ran his mouth about hanging a noose...... and got his ass kicked for the trouble?

please. let's discuss.

:popcorn:

[Meathead]

listen im mostly on your side philosophically

lets look at some more of the text from that pursuing holiness site you referenced. i dont know who this laura girl is and what her qualifications for commenting on this are but lets look at what she says and for the sake of argument assume its accurate:

Justin Barker is the white teenager whose beating resulted in the arrest of the “Jena 6″ - according to previous reports, he is friends with the three students who hung the nooses in the trees, and his beating occurred moments after he taunted the black student who had his “ass whipped” by a group of whites at the Fair Barn over the weekend. I guess sometimes being beaten by a group of people is okay, and sometimes it’s not, hmm?

Do any of those facts mean that he “deserved” a beating? No. They don’t. But I’m trying to put it in context. He wasn’t just leaped on out of the blue. The fight didn’t occur in a vacuum. This report of his testimony at the Mychal Bell trial is incomplete. Here’s Barker’s recollection, which excludes what reportedly happened moments before:

Justin Barker, 17, testified that he had just come out of his high school gym with his girlfriend walking ahead of him on Dec. 4 when they turned to avoid a group of black students.

“I turned my back and somebody hit me, that’s all I remember,” Barker said.

Written statements from students closest to the scene (in space and time) suggest that the incident was sparked by an angry exchange in the gymnasium moments before in which the black student assaulted at the Fair Barn was taunted for having his “ass whipped”.

Emotions had been running high for months. Things kept escalating, and this was far from the first violence. So did Barker deserve a beating? No one deserves a beating. But high school students who let their emotions get out of hand don’t deserve to spend the rest of their lives in jail, either.

I don’t think the Jena 6 should go entirely without punishment. I just think these criminal charges are beyond ridiculous. Kids in school fight on a regular basis. I can’t even tell you how many fights I saw in my high school twenty years ago, and plenty of them were racially motivated. Expelling them from school is fair and appropriate. A misdemeanor might be appropriate. But if the D.A. honestly believes criminal charges of any kind are appropriate, he’d better look like pressing charges against the group of whites who beat the black student at the Fair Barn, and the white guy in the convenience store parking lot who threatened black students with a shotgun. What D.A. Walters did instead was charge the black students who took the shotgun from the white guy with theft and battery. I find that very telling.

these sound like total red ***king neck inbred white bastards, and i know cuz half my family and hometown is like that. they are knuckle draggers trying to intimidate blacks just for being black. its rediculously stupid and part of me would greatly enjoy watching people like that get their asses whooped

but violence begets violence and somebodys got to stop the cycle. thats all what mlk was about and mlk was the ***king man. very christlike. and i respect that kind of shit immensely. we all should

now what was done to those black kids in the judicial system was also wrong. and after the story hit the national media it was reviewed and the judge threw out most of the most serious charges. but the black kids were no choir boys either and deserved to answer for both this incident and their history of deliquency problems

this whole thing is just so ***king stupid. dumbass rednecks on one side and ghetto punk ass ni@@as on the other. wtf is wrong with people. talk about creating your own pain. this shit just does not have to go on and im ashamed of all of yall that are involved in it. get a ***king clue and stop creating madness out of nuthin

[nehemiah]

i'm not saying it wasn't stupid.

but they are high school kids, IPSO FACTO, they are stupid.

the white boy got a black eye... not the best resolution...... but then again let's talk about the kid still in jail over this bullshit.

[nehemiah]

mychal bell is charged w/ aggravated battery.

Aggravated battery in criminal law is a more serious form of battery, and is considered a felony. Aggravated battery can be punished by death or more than a year in prison. Simple battery which is a misdemeanor can only be punished by less than one year in prison, or by a fine.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aggravated_battery

for a black eye. after being provoked.

that is the REAL injustice here.

[Meathead]

is that still the case. i thought they reduced that sentence

regardless theres no question there was inequity in the whole justice situation. thats a continuing problem in this country and probably even worse in the heart of redneck crackerland

[nehemiah]

you are right, meathead, it IS reduced.

the initial charge was attempted murder.




btw, some good "make fun of meathead" names include: meatball and sheathead.

[dilbert]

so he was not involved? are you sure? did they ever find out who hung the noose? please tell me WHY they would punch him in the eye, then?

I don't know. Maybe they thought he was and were wrong. Maybe they were so angry over what happened they beleived a false accusation. Maybe the kids are not innocent.

Hell, why did the Moron-in-Cheif invade Iraq? Using NeheLogic, he had to have a good reason.

Why did OJ cut his wife's throat? Why did the *******s hang the nooses?

They all have good reasons too?

why are you NOT held to the same standard of evidence as you want nehemiah to be held? we should just take the white guy's word for it? but the six black guys - being coloured - are lying... of course.

Can the bigotry implications. There is not much I really care if people call me, but an implication of bigotry fries me.

And I never said to take his word for it. It seems to me you really don't care what the white guy says.

so what is your hypothesis?

are they just six wild and wooly negroes looking for the only white boy in the class? were they so blind w/ african rage that they picked on him?

or is it more reasonable to believe that pussy white boy hung a noose or ran his mouth about hanging a noose...... and got his ass kicked for the trouble?

please. let's discuss.

:popcorn:

I am more than willing to discuss this.

Funny how you keep going back to the "pussy" white boy comments. Wonder where you get that from? Or why you need to keep throwing it in there? Or why you seem to be the one with the capability to stereotype the wild and wooly negroes.

My hypothesis is that this area is a nasty place to live with racial tensions and attitudes nto what most of us would like in 21st century. And they broke.

Even if Baker did hang the noose, he did not deserve the vigilante justice he got. He deserved to severly punished by the school (BTW, unless I am mistaken he was not one of the three kids suspended for the noose hanging.) But to get the shit beat out of him by 6 kids?

No. He did not deserve that.

[dilbert]

you are right, meathead, it IS reduced.

the initial charge was attempted murder.




btw, some good "make fun of meathead" names include: meatball and sheathead.


I know of other nicknames for Meathead too. There are several names I call him!

[dilbert]

We are not saying the punishment did not exceed the crime. (although, to be fair, this is not Bell's first dance)

What people are wondering is why these kids were given a position of "honor" by BET.

[Meathead]

we are starting to get into the realm where nehes gonna do anything to avoid admitting he getting pwnd so im not gonna go on much longer

but i will reiterate that the key here for me is the support of violence. it solves nothing and only makes things worse. if someone resorts to violence theyre giving up any ability to claim the position of honor

now if someone attacks you with violence that changes the scenario a bit. and this is where i would separate from someone like say jesus. you pretty much get one maybe two cheeks turned before youve opened up the can yourself. if you start perpetrating violence against me and i cant avoid it im gonna do what i need to to get you to stop, including blowing your ***king head clean off your body. thatll stop you im sure. then i will go about telling everybody else why they shouldnt resort to violence because getting your head blown off by a pasty ass pacifist is going to eventually be your reward

listen to christ and mlk and the dalai lama and every other enlightened ni@@a out there trying to get it through your head - avoid violence. if you cant do anything else at least avoid violence. and if you can work out your problems some other way

if we can get to that point it makes it much easier to address the other more subtle issues that are really the root of our discord, like ignorant racist attitudes and inequities in the justice system and bias in hiring and medical treatment etc etc

violence is for primitive, unevolved, and unenlightened people. be part of the solution and just dont go there unless you have absolutely no other options

[pmoon6]

I think Meathead lost the last part of his left testicle with that rant.

Maybe he can have the right one resusitated.

Dave? Dave ? your friend needs help.

[Meathead]

ive had enuf of you

wow first person on ignore here since i cant even recall. there was pete so very long ago but thats ancient history now musta have been somebody since. but damn if i can think of any

dont bother to pm me either weve been through this before. that game is over

[nehemiah]

:burp:

[Meathead]

not you belchy

[Gibby]

Sorry Meat, meant no offense, oh you mean Muenster?

[pmoon6]

ive had enuf of you

wow first person on ignore here since i cant even recall. there was pete so very long ago but thats ancient history now musta have been somebody since. but damn if i can think of any

dont bother to pm me either weve been through this before. that game is overWhat a pussy.

I won't bother to assuage you insecure feelings.

Go rent a psychiatrist, you twit.

Or suck on momma's tittie.

[35Pete]

ive had enuf of you

wow first person on ignore here since i cant even recall. there was pete so very long ago but thats ancient history now musta have been somebody since. but damn if i can think of any

dont bother to pm me either weve been through this before. that game is over

I'm not on ignore anymore?

Crap. I gotta step up my game around here. :D

[pmoon6]

I'm not on ignore anymore?

Crap. I gotta step up my game around here. :DHe took you off of ignore, when you came 'round to his way of thinking.

Wait a week, he'll change his mind again and you'll be on the shit list.

I usually find Meathead amusing.

He does have a sense of humor, but can't stand the rough stuff.

I think we should get together and have a group hug.

[pmoon6]

BTW Meat.

How are they treating you on the other side?

Are you everything you thought you could be?

.....or just second base?

[comericatigers]

on a scale of one to ten lets grade all the wrongness up in hmya

10 - hanging nooses in the 'white tree' cuz black kids wanted to sit under it too

10 - administrators labeling noose hangings a prank and not immediately suspending crackers who hung them. note to jena: vote those blind idiots out next cycle

10 - bet glorifying j6 defendants in the black community that already has violence problems by inviting them to present an award. basically a nationally broadcast ‘ni@@a moment’ (see boondocks)

9 - six young black men attacking a white boy in response. the only reason this isnt a ten is cuz i can imagine the roaring frustration when those colored boys had to watch administrators hand slap the vile noose hangers. that makes me furious i can imagine what it did to them. unfortunately they then decided to act just like ghetto ni@@as instead of men with mlk wisdom. he died for you people, meaning all of us, and you represent like this. for shame. find another way my brothers

9 - tiger suggesting negros shouldnt hang out by the white tree

9 - nehe, scary, c19 condoning a premeditated violent reply to noose hanging as appropriate. yeah the white noose hangers deserved an ass kicking but its far better to find another way. and certainly that white boy who allegedly wasnt involved in the nooses didnt deserve it

8 - nehe, scary, c19 not knowing the beaten white kid was not related to the noose hangings. if youre gonna talk retribution smack at least have your facts straight

7 - nehe, gsw, ckg minimizing the white boys injuries by criticizing him going to some ceremony later. the kid was clearly wronged perhaps he was trying to be strong in the face of that wrongness. i applaud his courage. so does mlk

6 - darwin suggesting a white kid should avoid expressing herself to black music cuz she gets racial taunts for it. cmon man

5 - bbi for censoring the word ni@@a. it is now officially a colloquial term that has various and valid meanings based on context. banning the word only contributes to further heightening the separation of races. we cant put that genie back in the bottle, we might as well use the word when appropriate. it challenges us to see the meaning of the word in context and shrinks the space between races

3 - scary for complaining about a neg. you avoided the obligatory complaining about a neg groan cuz it was a mild complaint and you provided justified substance to it

-10 - gib and dil finally setting you sumbeychs straight

-100 me for this post :rockstar: bitches

I mentioned it because at Jenna the white kids were not allowed to hang out by the bleachers because that was the black kids hangout. I'm sure if the white kids went over to the bleachers something would have happened there as well. I correlated it to not going down certain streets in cities because you know what the consequences may be.

[Meathead]

ok that puts your comment in a context i understand

not hanging by the bleachers is as bullshit as not hanging by the tree. whether those dumbasses recognize it or not those are your brothers. drawing those lines is rediculous. sounds like a ***king prison yard or something. grow the ***k up

i withdraw the demerits

[comericatigers]

ok that puts your comment in a context i understand

i withdraw the demerits

:partysmilies:

[Meathead]

btw somebody tell me if the aforementioned ignore recipient become conciliatory and/or repentant cuz i cant and wont see it

[pmoon6]

btw somebody tell me if the aforementioned ignore recipient become conciliatory and/or repentant cuz i cant and wont see itWaaay tooo many big words for me in that sentence.

Or is that sentences?

Can't tell.

Stick your head in the sand and don't read any commentary on your diatribes.

I guess it's just easier to sit in your friend's basements and think about the wicked world outside.

[Meathead]

the great meatskin will now divine what the ignore member said ...

wait its coming to me ...

it was something stupid and oozing with macho bravado

howd i do

[pmoon6]

the great meatskin will now divine what the ignore member said ...

wait its coming to me ...

it was something stupid and oozing with macho bravado

howd i doThe only thing you ooze is estrogen laced phlegm.

Macho bravado only exists in your limited mind.

[CoachC.]

NEWSFLASH for most of you: Blacks kids tend to "hang" with black kids and white kids tend to "hang" with white kids.....especially in the lunchroom or any other gathering place when all are at school together.

That in itself does not make either group or side racist. It just makes them normal teenaged kids.

There's a big difference between the way things SHOULD be and the way things ARE.


But about the fight situation......too many people made way too many mistakes for me to even begin writing about.

As far as BET, they should be ashamed of themselves for making a conscious effort to glorify these kids. Just like Spike TV would be just as shameful if they were to glorify any of those who hung the noose.

As one who went to a "mixed" school, and is now a high school teacher and coach (of many different "types" of kids), I have enjoyed reading the thread and the various viewpoints, though.

And Meat, sorry, but I hate the N-word and personally refuse to ever use it.

[Meathead]

thats fine. i understand. but i will say to you what ive said many times

1. there are now several version of the 'n-word' which have come to mean very different things based on context. if someone calls you 'my ni@@a' thats a compliment, it means essentially 'my brother' or 'my friend'. it can also mean a) black people in general 2) bad black people c) bad people of any color and pi) all people of any color. i didnt make these rules up, immerse yourself in the culture and youll see thats just the way it is, if you dont know that already

c. ignoring these words and pretending they dont exist has accomplished exactly what? weve been doing that now for oh lesse forty years and we have made only marginal progress since then. black people still prefer black people and put up barriers to white entry. white people are a helluva lot better then they were when i was growing up but still are afraid of black people and dont have enough black friends to bridge the cultural gap. we have defacto self-segregation in this country along with self-censorship. blacks feel like they have a monopoly on words like ni@@a and bitch and nappy, only further defining false barriers between the races. put it this way, black people ARE GONNA CONTINUE to use these words among themselves regardless of what anyone else says or does. they are there, they are part of their culture, and that makes them part of our culture by default. deal wid it

Ñ). black influence is EVERYWHERE, its cool to be 'street', its engrained in every aspect of our society. by allowing all of us to use the same words we are bridging cultural gaps. we are respecting their definitions of words as a colloquial contribution to our culture as a whole. we are forcing everyone to recognize the subtle differences in meaning of the word (as outlined in a above) and that brings us closer. it starts to erase these bullshit false boundaries that we create in the attempt to be 'polite'

WELL POLITE ISNT ***KING WORKING PEOPLE

stop being polite and start manifesting LOVE, agape love, christlike love, buddha nature love. that always has been and always will be the ONLY way to let this false boundary bullshit DIE

the ONLY way you can use these words properly and still love your brothers is by understanding them and releasing these bullshit boundaries we have allowed to crop up between us

iow, how can you possibly find these words racist if you really love your brother? the answer is you cant. not if you really love them in the way the masters have taught us. then they become only words. not weapons. not barriers. only words

we have 'black' words all around us all the time. hip, down, hang, peeps, chill, fly, fat, tight, crib, g, word, for real, bad. the list is virtually endless

now all of a sudden we are going to say blacks can use a word that we cant. what the hell does that do?!? creates a boundary, a barrier

i say ***k that shit. i love you and there isnt a damn thing you can do about it. these are OUR words now. youre my brother and it means exactly the same for me as it does for you. if you accept youre my brother, of course. and if you dont, ***k you ni@@a. you aint my ni@@a

look i realize this isnt for everybody. but i know damn well its for some of us, probably way more than we realize. ive been doing this for a while and had great success with it. trust me when i say black people are generally a hell of a lot cooler than we give them credit for. show some love to them, be their brother, then ask them what they think of the word ni@@ar and ni@@a. or if youre black do the same thing with a cracker. you will probably be shocked how much you both learn in the process

its time to stop doing what weve always done cuz i just aint working. manifest love in your heart, use the words they use, and bridge the gap

peace

namaste

[C Darwin]

its cool to be 'street'

Not in any home where the parents are worth their salt. Black or white.