Listen Up! With Notacon

[35Pete]

Pete: What brought you to the Range? What keeps you here?

Notacon: I was surfing the web looking for Bills news and chanced upon the "Billsinsider" site...which led me to the Range...this was in 2004. Did not start posting until I saw Shiva's absurd post, before the 2005 season, that Kelly Holcomb was a "top 10" QB.

After posting on an extremely conservative political BB for a few years...talking about football was interesting and refreshing. Same kind of stupidity...sports does that to you...kinda like religion and politics...but about a subject that REALLY matters, my beloved Bills.

I stay because I love the Bills. I have been a fan for over 40 years and a BB dedicated to my team is wonderful.

BB's are also great place to do some harmless venting. I can't stand mindless and dishonest bullshit and, unfortunately it is all over the place. My wife gets upset when I yell at the TV so I can straighten the knuckleheads out on the Range without her thinking I have gone completely nuts.

Pete: So. Let's cut to the chase, shall we? Do you think that the Bills suck this year?

Notacon: ABSOLUTELY NOT!

Remember, I lived through the really dark days of Dan Darrarh and Vince Ferragamo...and Harvey Johnson and John Rauch as coaches. Imagine using OJ Simpson...the greatest running back ever at that time...as a decoy and receiver out of the backfield.

The difference between winning and losing is very narrow in today's NFL. A couple of plays go the other way and all of a sudden we are on a winning streak. The playoffs may be a long shot this year, but it would not surprise me a bit if the Bills end the year 8-8...with a few breaks 10-6. The schedule after the bye is much more friendly than the first three games.

Levy is building a long term contender and I have to give him the benefit of the doubt...certainly much more leeway than any armchair GM at the range.

Pete: What about JP? I mean is this guy an enigma, a washout, or a diamond in the rough with no supporting cast?

Notacon: Don't have a clue. This is certainly his year to shine or go away. He has shown me enough to want to wait until the full season is over to decide his fate. He is a very tough kid with a canon for an arm. He also needs some weapons and just Lynch and Evans are not enough. He also needs a stable O line that gives him more than a second or two to operate.

I watch the best QB's in the league and they all have one thing in common...they have a chance to throw the ball. We saw what constant pressure on Manning did in the few loses that Indy suffered these past few years.

He needs to trust himself and just play the game. If he does not show signs of improvement over the end of last year (he needs to do much better than he has done this year to do that) then I'll be happy to say goodbye. Edwards could certainly be the answer but putting him in this year would be a debacle.

Pete: Obligatory hottest woman on the planet pictures please.

Notacon: And a great "obligation" at that!!

I'm old school and into photography so I have to go with classic beauty...Charlize Theron...her face is almost perfect...she is loaded with talent too.

http://www.bartcop.com/charlize-theron-paris.jpg


Pete: I hear the Bills staff is pointing fingers. Hmm...Weak positions, injuries, and no infighting. From the staff no less! What's your take?

Notacon: When you are losing...shit happens. I think most of this "finger pointing" is overblown by the press...and of course some blowhards on the Range.

Pete: 7-9 or worse. I told you so.

Notacon: Come on Pete...there are 14 games left...a little early to say "I told you so".

I hate making predictions...Las Vegas is what it is because dopes put money on making "predictions". I especially hate to predict the Bills losing.

That being said I think the offense will come around and the defense will be the biggest problem. The schedule is lighter at the end of the year where the last six games are definitely winnable. Throw in the Jets x2 (the Jets SUCK!!!), the Miami game of 11/11, the Bengals (worse defense than even the Bills) and Dallas (yes...I think the Bills beat Dallas in their first Monday night game in years) and that is 11 wins. They will probably mess up at least two of those games which means 9 wins.

Pete: Is the Kevin Everett situation a miracle or what? Everyone thought that he was going to be paralyzed and on a ventilator. The news gets better every day.

Notacon: What a great story. This is a testament to Mr. Wilson...him being one of the major contributors to the Miami Project that has developed the treatment used on Kevin that is the main reason he will walk again.

No one knew that Mr. Wilson gave million$ to this research center. It is so appropriate that, when in need, one of Mr. Wilson's players reaped the benefit.

Pete: I think Jim McNally sucks. He's totally overrated and needs to be fired like now. What do you think?

Notacon: Wow, Pete...tell us what you really think.

The offensive line sucks. Even after spending major dollars it seems that Losman is always on the run. They can't pick up a blitz to save their lives. If the O line picks up their play, then everything else falls into place for the offense.

The myopic dopes think it is all about the QB...nonsense...it ALL starts on the offensive line. On the defensive side it all starts on the defensive line. We leave much to be desired on both lines...the surest way to ensure losing more games than winning.

I don't know if firing McNally NOW would do the club any good...so I would wait until the end of the year. Levy has too much class to embarrass a coach like that...certainly not if it won't help the team. And firing a coach early in the year won't help the team.

Pete: Do you think the fans will all in all abandon the Bills after this season?

Notacon: NO WAY!!!

I have berated Bills fans in the past, calling them "second rate"...and I don't back down from that for a second. I call Bills fans second rate because they enjoy the lowest ticket prices in the league and have never come close to selling season tickets out. They bitch and moan every time the stadium issue comes up and would never stand for slightly higher taxes to pay for a new one.

That being said, we still have some of the best individual fans in the world and abandoning the Bills will NEVER be an option.

Pete: What's your take on The Pats? Think any of those past playoffs/super bowls should have a great big asterick next to them?

Notacon: The Patriots and Belichick are cheaters!!

Period!

They knew the rules and they decided to break them anyway...probably for only a marginal advantage. But, that is an advantage nonetheless...and one obtained by cheating.

Their SB victories...rightly or wrongly...will ALWAYS be tainted.

When one looks at the closeness of their SB wins...indeed even how they got to their first one with the TERRIBLE "tuck rule" call when Brady fumbled and would have lost that playoff game (if the call went the correct way) with NO SB...you have to wonder if they cheated their way to victory.

Average point difference in ALL the Sb's besides the three latest NE wins was 16.39 points. Each of NE's wins were by three. The ONLY other closer win was by the Giants over the Bills in 1991, by 1 point...just so happens that the defensive co-ordinator for the Giants was none other than Bill "Cheater" Belichick.

I don't think it is a stretch to wonder if he has been a cheater his whole coaching career.

In all honesty, their cheating probably had no bearing on their championships...they have had very good teams with excellent coaching...and I admire them for that.

But, to whatever extent that their success is tainted...it's ALL on Belichick and his arrogant and blatant disregard for the rules

Pete: Short of real-time videography of the Pats signal calling, what will it take to beat the Cheatriots at least once this season? Do you think the headsets will go out at a key moment in Foxboro?

Notacon: No Way the Pat's go 16-0. That feat may well never be achieved. But, NE's schedule is certainly not so tough that they may come very close. The big tests for them will be at Indy and at Bal.

Like every high flying early season team...once the film builds up (the legal kind) and coaches have a chance to break it down and game plan against them...a team will beat them. The football has a funny shape and bounces strangely sometimes.

I hope it is the Bills who screw up their perfect season.

Pete: What non-cheating team do you think has the best possible chance of reaching the super bowl?

Notacon: Indy, by far.

It is a BIG mistake to take the Colts for granted. They are the champions until they are beat. Everybody whined about how bad their defense was last year...until they surprised everyone in the playoffs with their defense.

Pete: So, you think we should invade Iran, huh?

Notacon: No way!! Invading Iraq was the biggest and stupidest event by any president in the history of this country. Invading Iran would be even dumber by a factor of 100.

But, I wouldn't put it past the lying coward Bush...easily the very worst president that ANY country has EVER seen.

This guy is not a leader...he is an embarrassment.

I can't wait until Jan. 21st 2009!!

Editor's Note: He's know's I knew the answer. Geez. Why can't some of these guys see a little ball busting when it comes their way? I was expecting a smart-ass answer. LOL


Pete: Are the Bills cheap capwise in your opinion? Or not overspending? What's your take?

Notacon: The 2006 CBA put the Bills in a very bad position. Despite Spiked's lunatic obsessive ranting about Mr. Wilson...it is all a lie. Mr. Wilson is not "cheap".

Surest way to destroy the Bills is for the team to start losing money.

Take a look at this article for the real story on what is going on in the NFL.

Financial gap widening between NFL's haves and have-nots (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/2007-02-27-widening-financial-gap_N.htm)

You know that the Wilson haters don't have a clue when the best they have is lies about the situation...and then they never own up to their dishonesty.



Pete: Final thoughts or comments?

Notacon: It's a blast being part of the Range. The overwhelming number of posters are a fun bunch of people. Still the best place to find out ANYTHING about the Bills is right here on the Range.

A few sourpuss malcontents threaten to ruin it with their nonsensical rantings that get more shrill when the team loses.

Sometimes if posters would think about what they write...or better yet base their opinions on reality instead of hyperbole...and then spend all of their energy defending their stupid position...this would be even a better place than it is.

As it is I give my heartfelt thanks to the unheralded people that make this place possible...to all the moderators...and to all the great Bills fans that help make Buffalo (and Upstate NY) livable.

[JLB]

great job guys!! :bills:

[Uppy]

Pete: What non-cheating team do you think has the best possible chance of reaching the super bowl

:rolleyes2

passive-aggressive behavior ?

Great job guys

[Carl J. Ironsides]

Blame the O-line instead of the quarterback. Typical.

[admarc]

Great Interview Guys !!!

[notacon]

Blame the O-line instead of the quarterback. Typical.

Just like I said...if guys would think before they write and base their opinion on reality instead of hyperbole...the Range would be a better place.

Anyone with even a sliver of football knowledge KNOWS that a good offensive line will make any QB better...while a poor O line will make even the best QB look worse.

[jimmifli]

Just like I said...if guys would think before they write and base their opinion on reality instead of hyperbole...the Range would be a better place.

Anyone with even a sliver of football knowledge KNOWS that a good offensive line will make any QB better...while a poor O line will make even the best QB look worse.
We have a good line.

[Uppy]

We have a good line.


Say that again at 4:15pm Sunday Sep.23 2007.

[JLB]

Say that again at 4:15pm Sunday Sep.23 2007.

right after we kick your pussy defense all over the field.

:beers:

[marcala12]

notocon is a good fan, but he doesn't know much about football. not too much harm in that i guess.

[jaymitch84]

Nice interview.

And I think the line will figure stuff out soon, they just need to build chemistry...I mean it's 3 new starters this year.

[35Pete]

notocon is a good fan, but he doesn't know much about football. not too much harm in that i guess.

Ohh I love comments like this.

And you do ohh omnipotent sage?

[CoachC.]

Good job, boys.

[marcala12]

Ohh I love comments like this.

And you do ohh omnipotent sage?

i know a thing or two about a thing or two....

[pabstman]

After the way the season has started out and with 14 games to go I needed to be reminded it's not all doom and gloom.
I am in 100% agreement with you about the OL. They have played well on certain plays, and even on one drive vs Denver, but once they become consistant people will be even more impressed with ML and JP will get his act together. I posted the other day that over half (10) of ML 18 runs vs Pitt went for less than 3 yards, thats an indictment on run blocking period. JP's has issues, but right now the entire team dose. I honestly belive we will see the O start to put it together starting this week.

Good job guys.

[marcala12]

After the way the season has started out and with 14 games to go I needed to be reminded it's not all doom and gloom.
I am in 100% agreement with you about the OL. They have played well on certain plays, and even on one drive vs Denver, but once they become consistant people will be even more impressed with ML and JP will get his act together. I posted the other day that over half (10) of ML 18 runs vs Pitt went for less than 3 yards, thats an indictment on run blocking period. JP's has issues, but right now the entire team dose. I honestly belive we will see the O start to put it together starting this week.

Good job guys.

its an indictment on the passing game----they had such little respect for it that they were bringing the heat for lynch and losman didn't make them pay for it once.

[pabstman]

its an indictment on the passing game----they had such little respect for it that they were bringing the heat for lynch and losman didn't make them pay for it once.

They were bringing the heat with 5 and 6 guys and still having 5 and 6 in coverage with us only putting 2 and 3 WR in the routes because we had to do a lot of Max protection.
Trust me teams have little respect for our running and passing game. I was at the Denver game and they rarely put 8 in the box to stop ML. They pressed the WR and the two safety's sat back 12 yards of the ball to give deep help.
Besides that we are built as a run first team. Pound the ball bring the safeties up than stretch the field. If you try to stretch the field without forcing the safeties up all's that gives you is second and third and longs.
Listen to Notacon he knows what he's talking about.

[notacon]

They were bringing the heat with 5 and 6 guys and still having 5 and 6 in coverage with us only putting 2 and 3 WR in the routes because we had to do a lot of Max protection.
Trust me teams have little respect for our running and passing game. I was at the Denver game and they rarely put 8 in the box to stop ML. They pressed the WR and the two safety's sat back 12 yards of the ball to give deep help.
Besides that we are built as a run first team. Pound the ball bring the safeties up than stretch the field. If you try to stretch the field without forcing the safeties up all's that gives you is second and third and longs.
Listen to Notacon he knows what he's talking about.

Nice analysis pabstman...and not only because you slipped in a compliment. :D

It is hard to see these things on TV but certainly, just taking you eyes off the QB brings a whole different perspective to the game.

I record every game, digitally, and re-watch the key plays on my 50" HD TV.

When opposing defenses just send 5 or 6 guys after to passer...and they get good pressure (which has happened on at least 85% of our pass plays) it doesn't matter who is playing QB...the passing game is going to suck.

Losman can certainly get rid of the ball faster from time to time, but I cannot fault his accuracy. He has people in his face all the time and he is still completing over 60% of his passes. He has learned how to protect the ball and not make the obviously bonehead play.

What the myopic knuckleheads fail to realize is that a lot has to go right to have an effective offense...from the QB making quick reads...to the WR running crisp routes...to the WR making quick reads...to the RB making quick reads and picking up a block...to the TE making his block, making a read and providing an outlet...but MOST IMPORTANT...the offensive line has to block the rush so the defense has to send more people in to create pressure.

Mark my words...if you see Losman go back to pass and you can count up to "three" before he has a NE guy in his face...the passing game, and the offense will work better.

[Billsman]

Yet another good interview with another good member. Good stuff!

[anEinherjer]

Look at all the groans flying around! You know notacon's in the room! :D

Unfortunately, explaining over and over again won't get you anywhere man, some guys are going to piss all over the Bills and still call themselves fans, there ain't much to be done about it. Keep up the good fight though!

p.s. My interview was better. :D

p.p.s. Hey BostonTim, now I'd like to see Wilfork get a broken head as well as Brady! Yeeeehaw!

[marcala12]

seriously, if you're still talking about how good losman can be, you're just lost...give it up already, he's a lame-duck regardless.

[notacon]

Look at all the groans flying around! You know notacon's in the room! :D

Unfortunately, explaining over and over again won't get you anywhere man, some guys are going to piss all over the Bills and still call themselves fans, there ain't much to be done about it. Keep up the good fight though!

p.s. My interview was better. :D

p.p.s. Hey BostonTim, now I'd like to see Wilfork get a broken head as well as Brady! Yeeeehaw!

I know anEin..I know...some guys are just born to be shrill whiners!

Your interview may have been better...libertarians are good at the higher level discussion...they just don't have a clue as to reality. :D :D

My babe is prettier than your babe though. :)

[SpikedLemonade]

Notacon had the invading Iraq part of the interview right.

Let's see him groan this post.

[shiva2999]

Notacon is the groan master.

I cherish every one of mine.

[SpikedLemonade]

Notacon is the groan master.

I cherish every one of mine.


Me too!!!!

Like a badge of honour.

[JLB]

if the shoe fits.:D

[shiva2999]

if the shoe fits.:D

I have more groans than you do.

Nyah nyah, nyah nyah nyah!

[JLB]

I have more groans than you do.

Nyah nyah, nyah nyah nyah!

your way cooler than me.:D

[TRIPLE P]

Part of me hopes that Losman gets hurt just enough that he can't play for most of the Pats game and maybe a game or two more.

They would then get their wish of the savior Edwards coming in...he would play like shit...not just not good like Losman...but truely like shit...3 and 4 int's...fumbling...less that 50% completion percentage.

Then...all the excuses would come out of the woodwork with all of them completely contradicting themselves with all the arguments they scoffed at.

Bye Losman haters...I am going to leave you jerking off on each other with your dreams of what could be...only if....

What a Bills fan...wishing injury on his own players and hoping the backups suck to prove some sort of point....

Why would anyone want to read a crap interview with this fool?

[treydawg]

What a Bills fan...wishing injury on his own players and hoping the backups suck to prove some sort of point....

Why would anyone want to read a crap interview with this fool?

Completely agree, he must have naked pictures of Pete.

[emo]

who doesn't? pete loves people seeing his bifurcated, saline bloated wang, serously, dont ask me how I know this stuff.

[35Pete]

who doesn't? pete loves people seeing his bifurcated, saline bloated wang, serously, dont ask me how I know this stuff.

Could you "know this" because it just might be last night's homoerotic LSD-induced sexual fantasy that you had? And with a good wank I'll bet. :D

[emo]

Could you "know this" because it just might be last night's homoerotic LSD-induced sexual fantasy that you had? And with a good wank I'll bet. :D

nice try fagola but now, worse than that,

somethingawful.com has weeklend web where they cherry pick posts from a forum they did those two forums complete with horrifying pictures

[supbro]

supbro would tackle notacon for a loss.

sup bro?

[notacon]

What a Bills fan...wishing injury on his own players and hoping the backups suck to prove some sort of point....

Why would anyone want to read a crap interview with this fool?

You did.

Of course what you fail to recognize...because you have your head firmly planted up your butt...is that I was proved to be absolutely correct.

[notacon]

Notacon had the invading Iraq part of the interview right.

Let's see him groan this post.

Notacon is the groan master.

I cherish every one of mine.

Me too!!!!

Like a badge of honour.

I have more groans than you do.

Nyah nyah, nyah nyah nyah!

My groaning is just an illustration of my efficiency where it is not necessary to waste my valuable time writing posts to respond to inane nonsense from the dredges of the Range.

[TRIPLE P]

You did.

Of course what you fail to recognize...because you have your head firmly planted up your butt...is that I was proved to be absolutely correct.

They would then get their wish of the savior Edwards coming in...he would play like shit...not just not good like Losman...but truely like shit...3 and 4 int's...fumbling...less that 50% completion percentage.

Aparently you didn't catch the game where he looked EXACTLY like losman..... notaclue strikes again.

How much different was Losmans first game of the season...at home, in his fourth year, against an inferior team, in his second year starting than Trent Edwards 1 ever NFl action, off the bench, on the road, in his rookie year, against the best team in the league?

Losman vs DEN-> 14/21 97yds 1 INT, 2 Sacks

Edwards vs NE-> 10/20 97yds 1INT, 1 Sack

nearly identical... so if we're holding Losman to the standard of a 3rd round rookie in his first ever nfl action off the bench on the road, then we're doing fine...right? haha.

What happens if....just if... Edwards comes into the jets game withn a week of first team reps under his belt, at home, and plays really well?

[Carl J. Ironsides]

What happens if....just if... Edwards comes into the jets game withn a week of first team reps under his belt, at home, and plays really well?

notacon will make a lot of excuses, then commit gheyacide.

[JackKemp]

Nice interview guys. Go Bills!

[notacon]

Aparently you didn't catch the game where he looked EXACTLY like losman..... notaclue strikes again.

How much different was Losmans first game of the season...at home, in his fourth year, against an inferior team, in his second year starting than Trent Edwards 1 ever NFl action, off the bench, on the road, in his rookie year, against the best team in the league?

Losman vs DEN-> 14/21 97yds 1 INT, 2 Sacks

Edwards vs NE-> 10/20 97yds 1INT, 1 Sack

nearly identical... so if we're holding Losman to the standard of a 3rd round rookie in his first ever nfl action off the bench on the road, then we're doing fine...right? haha.

What happens if....just if... Edwards comes into the jets game withn a week of first team reps under his belt, at home, and plays really well?

HMAMANDLJDLJHDBDOODNC What was that?!?!? HDKHWDN:KUQFHDVLJLHD

Sorry, I can't understand you when you try to talk with you head up you butt!

[Carl J. Ironsides]

HMAMANDLJDLJHDBDOODNC What was that?!?!? HDKHWDN:KUQFHDVLJLHD

Sorry, I can't understand you when you try to talk with you head up you butt!

Really? It kind of looks as if you're not willing to accept facts.

What a looser.

[emo]

Really? It kind of looks as if you're not willing to accept facts.

What a loser.

what is 'loser'????

[Carl J. Ironsides]

what is 'loser'????

Sorry. I meant to say losser or looser.

[TRIPLE P]

HMAMANDLJDLJHDBDOODNC What was that?!?!? HDKHWDN:KUQFHDVLJLHD

Sorry, I can't understand you when you try to talk with you head up you butt!


Who's head is where?

You're the one that won't look at cold hard facts man....

denial. nice. very mature of you.

Further you said that if Trent Edwards came in after you wished Losman injury that he'd look awful....multiple INT's, fumbles, etc.... and then when called out on it you claimed to be right.

But only a few weeks earlier you claimed that Losman "didn't play good, but didn't play bad"... but they had nearly the same game....so which is it, because I know you wouldn't want to be a hypocrite, would you?

[notacon]

Who's head is where?

You're the one that won't look at cold hard facts man....

denial. nice. very mature of you.

Further you said that if Trent Edwards came in after you wished Losman injury that he'd look awful....multiple INT's, fumbles, etc.... and then when called out on it you claimed to be right.

But only a few weeks earlier you claimed that Losman "didn't play good, but didn't play bad"... but they had nearly the same game....so which is it, because I know you wouldn't want to be a hypocrite, would you?

Wow...you just don't get it do you.

Losman had a 67% completion rate in the Denver game and did not make one bonehead play. He had the Bills in contention the whole game and the main reason the Bills lost to Denver was the brain farts committed by special teams.

The Bills had the lead with 2 minutes left in the game and the after Moorman's first punt (that pinned the Bronco's at their own 15 yard line) was nullified by a stupid penalty...Denver was blessed with good field position at their own 34.

After Cutler was lucky enough to get over his own knucklehead plays by the awareness of one of his players batting a live ball out of bounds...Denver still needed a near miracle to kick the winning FG as time ran out.

The INT that Losman threw was absolutely meaningless coming at the final play of the half with a desperation play. A play that really did not even need to be run if the special teams did not commit another one of their brain farts taking away a scoring chance.

I will remind you what happened since you cannot watch games properly when you eyes are looking at the inside of you colon.

The Bills get the ball with only 27 seconds remaining at their own 44 yard line. In no time Losman gets them in FG range with 8 sec. left in the half at the Bronco's 35 yard line...a long FG try but very makeable.

What happens?!?!? Another penalty that throws the Bills out of FG range.

Even go earlier in the game with 7:32 in the half Losman engineers a 12 play drive that eats up over 6 minutes and gets the Bills in FG range...Lindell misses the kick.

Edwards on the other hand...had one decent drive. After that he looked as clueless as he was.

He had 5 straight 3 and outs after that TD drive. The longest "drive" after the TD was 6 plays.

after "the drive" he went 6/15 42 yards. That is a 40% completion rate. His INT was a typical boneheaded rookie terrible throw.

The Bills were into this game...up until Edwards second drive attempt where after having enough time in the pocket to eat lunch...he threw a terrible pass to Evans that was almost intercepted...then 4 more 3 and out's and the rout is on.

No 3xP...Losman played a much better game than Edwards...MUCH better.

Indeed after Losmans Denver game the haters were all out there whining about how terrible he played...you know the drill.

Edwards plays a MUCH WORSE game and the excuses start flying.

Your cluelessness has personified that phenomenon.

Get you head into the fresh air and look at things objectively.

[notacon]

BTW...what does "triple P" stand for?!?!?...

Permanently Petrified Punk?

[TRIPLE P]

HA. HA. HA.

All you have is a half page of excuses.

Losman did play better, a bit better.

The circumstances arond thier performances are what you fail to understand.... The reason we were in the Denver game had NOTHING...NOTHING to do with Losman...AT ALL...it had to do with the defense holding them to so few points after JP couldn't move the ball, and Roscoe returning a punt...our only offensive TD had nothing to do with losman...it was ALL... ALL LYNCH...

Losman has done absolutely nothing to help this team win, he hasn't been a leader on or off the field. YOU are the one who can't see that...

Edwards didn't play well... but he played NO WORSE than Losman...no matter how you try to justify it....

[standingbuffalo43]

BTW...what does "triple P" stand for?!?!?...

Permanently Petrified Punk?

better than a convention of uber-nerd hackers:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notacon

http://www.notacon.org/

[standingbuffalo43]

My groaning is just an illustration of my efficiency where it is not necessary to waste my valuable time writing posts to respond to inane nonsense from the dredges of the Range.

pffftahahahahahah

what a gigantic tool...


observe:

Wow...you just don't get it do you.

Losman had a 67% completion rate in the Denver game and did not make one bonehead play. He had the Bills in contention the whole game and the main reason the Bills lost to Denver was the brain farts committed by special teams.

The Bills had the lead with 2 minutes left in the game and the after Moorman's first punt (that pinned the Bronco's at their own 15 yard line) was nullified by a stupid penalty...Denver was blessed with good field position at their own 34.

After Cutler was lucky enough to get over his own knucklehead plays by the awareness of one of his players batting a live ball out of bounds...Denver still needed a near miracle to kick the winning FG as time ran out.

The INT that Losman threw was absolutely meaningless coming at the final play of the half with a desperation play. A play that really did not even need to be run if the special teams did not commit another one of their brain farts taking away a scoring chance.

I will remind you what happened since you cannot watch games properly when you eyes are looking at the inside of you colon.

The Bills get the ball with only 27 seconds remaining at their own 44 yard line. In no time Losman gets them in FG range with 8 sec. left in the half at the Bronco's 35 yard line...a long FG try but very makeable.

What happens?!?!? Another penalty that throws the Bills out of FG range.

Even go earlier in the game with 7:32 in the half Losman engineers a 12 play drive that eats up over 6 minutes and gets the Bills in FG range...Lindell misses the kick.

Edwards on the other hand...had one decent drive. After that he looked as clueless as he was.

He had 5 straight 3 and outs after that TD drive. The longest "drive" after the TD was 6 plays.

after "the drive" he went 6/15 42 yards. That is a 40% completion rate. His INT was a typical boneheaded rookie terrible throw.

The Bills were into this game...up until Edwards second drive attempt where after having enough time in the pocket to eat lunch...he threw a terrible pass to Evans that was almost intercepted...then 4 more 3 and out's and the rout is on.

No 3xP...Losman played a much better game than Edwards...MUCH better.

Indeed after Losmans Denver game the haters were all out there whining about how terrible he played...you know the drill.

Edwards plays a MUCH WORSE game and the excuses start flying.

Your cluelessness has personified that phenomenon.

Get you head into the fresh air and look at things objectively.I love how Notaclue leaves out the TD drive TrEd has to prove he is 'right'

thats the kinda shit Wyswings used to pull...


and he was a gigantic tool too...

[shiva2999]

pffftahahahahahah

what a gigantic tool...


Hey, check this out.

Nota followed me over to patsfans.com to warn them about me.

:rofl:

Whatta guy!

Needless to say I hadn't mentioned him over at their site,

Anyway, my favorite line was this one...

He is a pariah on the Bills site and regularly getting voted every year as the worst poster and poster most likely to cause trouble etc..etc...

Now, since I have NEVER been voted "Worst Poster", what does that say about someone who follows someone else around the internet to tell complete strangers lies about them?

Could there be....ISSUES?


http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/showthread.php?t=61835&page=6

I too am from the Bills BB.

I have to tell you guys about Shiva.

He is a pariah on the Bills site and regularly getting voted every year as the worst poster and poster most likely to cause trouble etc..etc...

His years running absurdity is his contention that Kelly Holcomb, ex-Bills backup QB, ex-Eagles back-up QB, ex Browns backup QB and presently the Vikings backup QB is...get this...a "TOP 10" QB.

Please...keep him, we on the Bills site certainly would not mind giving him up for a Clark Bar.

BTW...he is one of the only posters in Bills land that actually defends your coach from his cheating.

I don't give a crap about all of his garbage misdirection...the simple fact is that Belichick knew the rule and purposely broke it.

He, and your team is paying for his arrogance.

I don't think that his cheating invalidates your SB titles...you have had great teams with excellent coaching but, there is no question that...deserved or not...his cheating has brought all of his and the Pat's achievements into question.

You can never trust a cheater.

Shiva and Belichick deserve each other.

Please take him off our hands.

[SpikedLemonade]

Now, since I have NEVER been voted "Worst Poster", what does that say about someone who follows someone else around the internet to tell complete strangers lies about them?

Could there be....ISSUES?


That is a sure sign of mental illness.

[notacon]

HA. HA. HA.

All you have is a half page of excuses.

Losman did play better, a bit better.

The circumstances arond thier performances are what you fail to understand.... The reason we were in the Denver game had NOTHING...NOTHING to do with Losman...AT ALL...it had to do with the defense holding them to so few points after JP couldn't move the ball, and Roscoe returning a punt...our only offensive TD had nothing to do with losman...it was ALL... ALL LYNCH...

Losman has done absolutely nothing to help this team win, he hasn't been a leader on or off the field. YOU are the one who can't see that...

Edwards didn't play well... but he played NO WORSE than Losman...no matter how you try to justify it....

The defense did not "hold" anyone or anything.

It amazes me that two people can watch a game and come away with such opposite observations.

Losman played much better than Edwards...Losman did not play well at all in either Denver or Pittsburgh.

Indeed...everyone agrees that Losman has to play much better to hang onto to the starting QB job.

Edwards was touted as the clearly better future QB by those that have already given up on Losman.

So what!

You say that Edwards played a "little" worse than Losman...what the f does that matter.

Losman has already shown that he is capable to perform on a high level in the NFL. He certainly has to be more consistent.

Edwards has shown nobody anything.

The only reason to replace Losman is because of the supposed "potential" of Edwards that has been derided for at least two years by the same people when applied to Losman.

The double standard is so blatant to be undeniable.

But, yet, we hear those very denials.

The Losman haters got their wish. Edwards is QB. Many want Edwards to continue as QB...at this point I really don't give a crap. Two more years of mediocrity is just more of what we have been seeing since 2000.

All I want is some winning football. I could care less who delivers it. Young QB's don't usually show if they will succeed until their 4th year. That means that it is put up or shut up for Losman THIS year.,..and if that is the case Edwards won't be done with HIS growing pains until 2010.

My preference is to have winning come sooner rather than later.

If you want to try and raise the level of Edwards' shitty play a little closer to the (in your opinion...and all the other Losman haters) Losman's shitty level...then go for it.

Replace one shitty young QB for another.

BUT...you can't then use the "he's just a rookie" excuse.

You can't use the "he hasn't started enough games yet" excuse.

You can't use the "he played against a good team" excuse.

You can't use the "he didn't have time to prepare" excuse. (I certainly did not hear many compliments when Losman was put in the same position as Edwards when Losman won the KC game in his second year...coming off the bench...with a passer rating of 124.2).

You can't use the "he looks bad but he's got potential" excuse.

You can't use the "offensive line sucks" excuse.

You can't use the "Bills don't have a second receiver" excuse.

You can't use the "Bills don't have a tight end" excuse.

You can't use the "give him time to grow" excuse.

Because you have rejected all those "excuses" in your denigration of Losman.

So...make you bed...but don't come whining to me when you are forced to lie in it.

[notacon]

better than a convention of uber-nerd hackers:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notacon

http://www.notacon.org/

Interesting links. I never saw that.

My handle was started when I was posting on the ultra-conservative political site.

It stand for Not A Conservative.

But, I would rather be an "uber-nerd hacker" than a serial liar.

[notacon]

pffftahahahahahah

what a gigantic tool...


observe:

I love how Notaclue leaves out the TD drive TrEd has to prove he is 'right'

thats the kinda shit Wyswings used to pull...


and he was a gigantic tool too...


Just like I said...a serial liar.

Read what I wrote. I did not leave out Edwards TD drive. It was impressive...and followed up with 5 straight 3 and out's and general clueless play.

Be honest or STFU.

[notacon]

Hey, check this out.

Nota followed me over to patsfans.com to warn them about me.

:rofl:

Whatta guy!

Needless to say I hadn't mentioned him over at their site,

Anyway, my favorite line was this one...

He is a pariah on the Bills site and regularly getting voted every year as the worst poster and poster most likely to cause trouble etc..etc...

Now, since I have NEVER been voted "Worst Poster", what does that say about someone who follows someone else around the internet to tell complete strangers lies about them?

Could there be....ISSUES?


http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/showthread.php?t=61835&page=6

Actually YOU invited all of us here on the Range to check out how you were being a sycophant to the Pat's fans denying that Belichick is a cheater.

My heartfelt apology if I misstated that you were voted "worst poster". I must admit I did not check my accuracy. Although my memory is that you WERE voted "most arrogant"..."most likely to cause trouble" or something like that.

I will do some research and report exactly which "awards" you have won...and how close you came to getting others.

[notacon]

That is a sure sign of mental illness.

No...just age and laziness. I usually take the time to research before I post an opinion...unlike others.

BTW...have you EVER admitted you lied about Mr. Wilson when you said that he spend "20% to 25% less" than any other NFL team on player salaries?!?!?!

[notacon]

I could only find results for the '05 Range Awards.

'05 Buffalo Range Awards Results! (http://www.buffalorange.com/showthread.php?t=82352)

That year Shiva was voted:

Meanest
Most Annoying
Biggest Troublemaker
Most Creative
Best PRS

He came in third place in the "Worst Poster" category...

Guy Incognito - 17 votes
njsue - 13 votes
Shiva - 10 votes

Don't know where the other year's results are posted.

So...I guess I may have been wrong about getting voted the "worst poster"...only the most annoying, meanest and biggest troublemaker on the negative side.

Sorry for the mistake.

[shiva2999]

I could only find results for the '05 Range Awards.

'05 Buffalo Range Awards Results! (http://www.buffalorange.com/showthread.php?t=82352)

That year Shiva was voted:

Meanest
Most Annoying
Biggest Troublemaker
Most Creative
Best PRS

He came in third place in the "Worst Poster" category...

Guy Incognito - 17 votes
njsue - 13 votes
Shiva - 10 votes

Don't know where the other year's results are posted.

So...I guess I may have been wrong about getting voted the "worst poster"...only the most annoying, meanest and biggest troublemaker on the negative side.

Sorry for the mistake.

I'm sure you are.

BTW, I was second in Worst Bills Poster, second in Best Bills poster and second in Most Knowledgeable Bills Fan that year.

I don't know where the 2006 results are but if you turn on your sigs you will see my 2006 awards at the bottom of each of my posts.

Oh, and those so called "negative" awards are my favorites.

The "Best" awards tend to be popularity contests.

Being voted Meanest/Biggest Ego/Most Arrogant/Biggest Troublemaker/Most Annoying is a true measure of respect.

[shiva2999]

I usually take the time to research before I post an opinion...unlike others.

:rofl:

I must admit I did not check my accuracy.

[shiva2999]

Sorry for the mistake.

I trust you will go to patsfans.com and rectify it.

[notacon]

I trust you will go to patsfans.com and rectify it.

As usual it's ALL about Shiva...at least in his warped world.

Unlike most posters I man up when I am wrong or make a mistake. I NEVER purposely write an untruth. When I mistakenly write something that is not true I correct it.

He is my corrected post back on the Pat's site:

For Shiva 's Ego...but he is STILL the worst poster...in my opinion (http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/showthread.php?p=543067#post543067)

Poor Shiva got his panties all in a bunch because I misstated what "awards" he won back at the Buffalo Range.

Shiva was never voted "worst" poster at the Range...I was mistaken.

In '05 he won...in a vote by all Range Posters:

Meanest Poster
Most Annoying Poster
Biggest Troublemaker

In '06 he won...in a vote by all Range Posters:

Biggest Ego
Most Arrogant Poster
Biggest Troublemaker

Even though he did not win the "Worst" poster award...in my personal opinion he IS the worst poster on Buffalo Range.

BTW...just so everyone knows the type of posters that are over there...they threatened to ban me because I called Belichick a "cheater".

The popular rationalization over there...and I also heard the same thing from a friend in the Boston area...he did use this little gem, he just passed it on...

"Belichick is not a "cheater" he just broke a rule."

Pat's board and Shiva deserve each other...no integrity...no honor...no honesty.

[standingbuffalo43]

Interesting links. I never saw that.

My handle was started when I was posting on the ultra-conservative political site.

It stand for Not A Conservative.

But, I would rather be an "uber-nerd hacker" than a serial liar.why settle...

you are both...

so was wyswings...

[standingbuffalo43]

Just like I said...a serial liar.

Read what I wrote. I did not leave out Edwards TD drive. It was impressive...and followed up with 5 straight 3 and out's and general clueless play.

Be honest or STFU.pffftahahahahaha


sure you did, wys...

[shiva2999]

Pat's board and Shiva deserve each other...no integrity...no honor...no honesty.

I didn't bring up the subject of my board awards.

You did.

And you used them to lie about me to total strangers.

And you are still using them to lie about me for no other reason than to justify your vicious and petty vindictiveness.

Utterly shameful.

[TRIPLE P]

I like this thread alot better now. It was boring before.

[shiva2999]

If people would only have the self control to leave me out of their interviews, I wouldn't have to embarrass them like this.

[treydawg]

Shiva just pwned this whole thread. Bang up job, ol' chap.

[notacon]

I didn't bring up the subject of my board awards.

You did.

And you used them to lie about me to total strangers.

And you are still using them to lie about me for no other reason than to justify your vicious and petty vindictiveness.

Utterly shameful.

BaaaaaaWaaaaaaWaaaaa.

No you are sounding like a little schoolgirl.

You remind me of the woman who was indignant that was call a "two-bit whore"...and went on and on about how she was so vilified.

Her reason?...She charges four-bits.

"Total strangers"?!?!?!

Everyone HERE is a "total stranger"...that is what you get when you have a BB where people are allowed to post anonymously.

YOU brought this back to the Range...like running home to mommy?!?!?

What a pantywaist.

YOU went over to the Pat's site...the week the Bills are going to play them just to pimp your nonsense that Belichick is not a cheater.

I didn't want our enemy to think that Buffalo Range and Bills fans think that Belichick is not a cheater.

I make a minor technical (and unintentional) mistake that instead of saying:

"He is a pariah on the Bills site and regularly getting voted the meanest, most annoying poster, biggest troublemaker with the biggest ego.

Instead I wrote:

"He is a pariah on the Bills site and regularly getting voted every year as the worst poster and poster most likely to cause trouble etc..etc..."

A distinction without a difference.

But...just because you brought this issue over to the Range...I admitted my mistake and even went back over the the Pat's site (which I did not plan on EVER going back...and will not in the future) and I set the record straight.

If that is not enough for you...you can just eat shit.

You get voted these awards because you ARE annoying, arrogant, mean and a troublemaker with a big ego.

Stop acting like that and will stop getting voted the awards.

[shiva2999]

LOL!

I love psychotic internet stalkers.

It's like an interactive horror movie.

[Uppy]

O man-this is some funny stuff.

[standingbuffalo43]

BaaaaaaWaaaaaaWaaaaa.

No you are sounding like a little schoolgirl.

You remind me of the woman who was indignant that was call a "two-bit whore"...and went on and on about how she was so vilified.

Her reason?...She charges four-bits.

"Total strangers"?!?!?!

Everyone HERE is a "total stranger"...that is what you get when you have a BB where people are allowed to post anonymously.

YOU brought this back to the Range...like running home to mommy?!?!?

What a pantywaist.

YOU went over to the Pat's site...the week the Bills are going to play them just to pimp your nonsense that Belichick is not a cheater.

I didn't want our enemy to think that Buffalo Range and Bills fans think that Belichick is not a cheater.

I make a minor technical (and unintentional) mistake that instead of saying:

"He is a pariah on the Bills site and regularly getting voted the meanest, most annoying poster, biggest troublemaker with the biggest ego.

Instead I wrote:

"He is a pariah on the Bills site and regularly getting voted every year as the worst poster and poster most likely to cause trouble etc..etc..."

A distinction without a difference.

But...just because you brought this issue over to the Range...I admitted my mistake and even went back over the the Pat's site (which I did not plan on EVER going back...and will not in the future) and I set the record straight.

If that is not enough for you...you can just eat shit.

You get voted these awards because you ARE annoying, arrogant, mean and a troublemaker with a big ego.

Stop acting like that and will stop getting voted the awards.

pppppfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffttahahahahahahah ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah...


*take a breath*


pppfffttttttttttahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahah



oh my god this is hilarious...



bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah....

[standingbuffalo43]

bahahahahahahahahahah...


oh my...



heh heh heh...





uhm....


heh...

[standingbuffalo43]

pppppfffftttahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ...

bahahahahahahaahhahahah...


this is ufcking classic...

pppppfffftttahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ...


pppppfffftttahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ...


ok...

I think Ive got it together now...

[standingbuffalo43]

I didn't want our enemy to think that Buffalo Range and Bills fans think that Belichick is not a cheater...

I want to personally thank you on behalf of Billsfan everywhere for taking it upon yourself to defend our honor...


ppffftahahahaahhhahahahahahah...

pppppfffftttahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ...


oh brother...

this is too rich...

[Jetsy]

Just like I said...if guys would think before they write and base their opinion on reality instead of hyperbole...the Range would be a better place.

Anyone with even a sliver of football knowledge KNOWS that a good offensive line will make any QB better...while a poor O line will make even the best QB look worse.

True. Ask Drew Brees ;)

[notacon]

True. Ask Drew Brees ;)

Ain't that the truth. There have been rumblings about a change of starters on the line.

I haven't watched all of New Orleans games but according to those that have he is under constant pressure.

[TRIPLE P]

The line is fine. Better than last year. If you can't see that then you're beyond help.

[rob on the job]

Nice interview, Notty!

[TRIPLE P]

The line is fine. Better than last year. If you can't see that then you're beyond help.

Thanks for the groan. hahaha

[JimKelly12203]

How amazingly prophetic Notacon. The whole JP going out thing and Edwards playing poorly. You were batting 1000 until the Jets came to town. Still i gotta give kudos.

Funny stuff from everyone.

[notacon]

How amazingly prophetic Notacon. The whole JP going out thing and Edwards playing poorly. You were batting 1000 until the Jets came to town. Still i gotta give kudos.

Funny stuff from everyone.

Wait until Monday.

In any event I don't usually predict upcoming events...Las Vegas was built on dopes putting money on "predictions".

My point...and I know you know what my point was/is...is that in the long history of the NFL, rookie QB's have a steep learning curve.

The TrEdnuts that profess to know that Edwards is the savior are sadly mistaken.

[35Pete]

Coming this Fall ~ A pilot showing of....

Listen Up! With Ned Beasely, Wolfgang Flugenhorn, and Mort Christensen.

Ned, Wolf, and Mort will interview a select member of the Range in this special program involving a change in format to the show. We'll follow the talk show format that Expose uses in the PRS, only geared to Buffalo sports. RBN (Range Broadcasting Network) will then conduct a Sadowski Ratings Poll (as opposed to a Neilson Ratings Poll cause this is Buffalo and we use a common Buffalo name) of the Range to see if the viewers prefer it.

Stay tuned.

[jaymitch84]

Wait until Monday.

In any event I don't usually predict upcoming events...Las Vegas was built on dopes putting money on "predictions".

My point...and I know you know what my point was/is...is that in the long history of the NFL, rookie QB's have a steep learning curve.

The TrEdnuts that profess to know that Edwards is the savior are sadly mistaken.

If Trent Edwards has a bad game and you use the words I, told, you, and so in the same sentence together, I am gonna flip out.

Nothing is worse than a fan predicting bad things about a player from his own team then acting high and mighty if he's right.

[TRIPLE P]

Wait until Monday.

In any event I don't usually predict upcoming events...Las Vegas was built on dopes putting money on "predictions".

My point...and I know you know what my point was/is...is that in the long history of the NFL, rookie QB's have a steep learning curve.

The TrEdnuts that profess to know that Edwards is the savior are sadly mistaken.

The "dopes" are all betting Dallas... huge...

[notacon]

If Trent Edwards has a bad game and you use the words I, told, you, and so in the same sentence together, I am gonna flip out.

Nothing is worse than a fan predicting bad things about a player from his own team then acting high and mighty if he's right.

Then flip out now.

Chances are the whole team will look bad on Monday. They are not going to look bad because I said so...they are going to look bad because Dallas has a much better team...the Bills defense was suspect before all of the injuries, now they are probably the worst in the whole league...Edwards is a rookie and the Jets are nowhere near what the Cowboys are.

[notacon]

The "dopes" are all betting Dallas... huge...

Of course they are. Why don;t you put down $10,000?

There are no "Sure bets" in gambling.

Would not surprise me one bit if the Bills beat the spread...if not win the game.

That is football...any given Sunday (or Monday)...that is why they play the games.

[JimKelly12203]

Who will you have told so if Edwards struggles. I never said he won't struggle. I just said he's probably already the better QB.

[TRIPLE P]

Dallas has a much better team...

Why?

Because they beat Miami, St Louis, The Giants, and the Bears?

Not a single one of their victories has been that impressive...pounding on some of the worst teams in the league isn't enough to strike fear in my heart...

[TRIPLE P]

Of course they are. Why don;t you put down $10,000?

.

already got my $100 on the Bills moneyline.

[Sabres244]

WOO HOOO JP WHO?

TrEd :kitty:

[Jetsy]

WOO HOOO JP WHO?

TrEd :kitty:

Yup it looks like JP's days in Buffalo are kinda numbered Matt.