Avery ripped in arbitration

[bduff54]

http://www2.sportsnet.ca/blogs/hockey_hearsay/2007/07/31/rangers_rip_into_avery/

lovely

[Carl J. Ironsides]

The Rangers are pretty much classless. It's no secret that once the Rags acquired Avery, their run toward the playoffs began. He had as much to do with bringing that team together last year as almost anyone; other than Lundqvist, Avery was the main guy to light the fuse down there.

[pigpen65]

"I have no idea what to say," Avery, who went into the hearing seeking $2.6M, wrote in an e-mail to The Post following the hearing in Toronto. "I don't know what this was about.

"I'm shocked."


No idea what it's about? It's about getting a low arbitration award. He's not only a dick, he's stupid.

[DumontFan]

Cue the "Sabres want Avery" thread. ;)

[ricogarion]

This usually happens in arbitration quite often.If the management side goes in with a glowing report they might as well hold a pistol to their collective heads.They have to point out faults to bolster their case against the overinflated award.

[jeffblue19]

The dude's useless...if ANYONE starts a we want Avery thread, i'll personally throw up on them.

[Carl J. Ironsides]

The dude's useless...if ANYONE starts a we want Avery thread, i'll personally throw up on them.

He's not useless. Avery had 48 points last season, which is very solid for a guy whose main job is to agitate the opposition. And once the Rangers got Avery, they went from out of the playoffs to one of the hottest teams in the league. He had a big hand in that.

I'm not the biggest Avery fan - after all, he did say and so some stupid things during the Sabres-Rags series - but the guy usually goes out and does the job he's supposed to do.

[MauvaisSang]

Buffalo rendered him useless. Didn't score a point in the second round. I barely noticed he was on the ice after game 1.

[bduff54]

he is pretty good, i would take him for sure. Sabres are way too soft

[camcool21]

He's not useless. Avery had 48 points last season, which is very solid for a guy whose main job is to agitate the opposition. And once the Rangers got Avery, they went from out of the playoffs to one of the hottest teams in the league. He had a big hand in that.

I'm not the biggest Avery fan - after all, he did say and so some stupid things during the Sabres-Rags series - but the guy usually goes out and does the job he's supposed to do.

He's a cheap-shotting douche that everyone in the league hates :arizona:

He deserves to be tried and convicted of being a douche, then as a punishment, he must play for the maple leafs:arizona:

[Thumper]

He's not useless. Avery had 48 points last season, which is very solid for a guy whose main job is to agitate the opposition. And once the Rangers got Avery, they went from out of the playoffs to one of the hottest teams in the league. He had a big hand in that.

I'm not the biggest Avery fan - after all, he did say and so some stupid things during the Sabres-Rags series - but the guy usually goes out and does the job he's supposed to do.

He's not a necessary component to any team though, either. Any player that does as much bad as they do good can't help anyone. I think Avery fits into that catergory in more ways than one....Which means he probably does more bad than good.

[jlpubarch]

He's not useless...but borderline.

The Rangers ABSOLUTELY need to downplay his value, they are already over the cap. Their Manhattan shopping spree went a little overboard like many shoppers over here...and they're feeling the heat.

Whether or not the Rangers value Avery isn't the point...I'm sure they want him on their team. They simply can't afford him at 2.6M/yr.

[DumontFan]

he is pretty good, i would take him for sure. Sabres are way too soft

Avery only went after Briere and Roy when he played against us. Even then, he was picking himself up off the ice. Sure, he may play his role as an agitator very well, but chasing around players who are, at best, an inch taller than you and aren't known for physical play isn't a cure for softness.

[Hockeystud1414]

http://www2.sportsnet.ca/blogs/hockey_hearsay/2007/07/31/rangers_rip_into_avery/

lovely

''I dont know what to say?'' WHAT A ****ING DUMBASS! Avery you deserve it if you don't get it ya ****ing tool...ITS ARBITRATION. Your team is NOT supposed to say nice things about you, that way they can get you for as cheap as possible and not worry about you getting overpaid. It's nothing against you, it's salary cap issue.

What a retard.

[Hockeystud1414]

The dude's useless...if ANYONE starts a we want Avery thread, i'll personally throw up on them.

You should throw up on Bduff right now then...lol :phaser:

[Hockeystud1414]

The Rangers are pretty much classless. It's no secret that once the Rags acquired Avery, their run toward the playoffs began. He had as much to do with bringing that team together last year as almost anyone; other than Lundqvist, Avery was the main guy to light the fuse down there.

We did the same thing to all of our guys when we took them to arbitration. Difference is, none of our guys are that classless to not keep it behind closed doors. As part of the arbitration process, your supposed to talk shit about the player so they don't get awarded too much.

We would have done thast to paetsche and roy had they actually went to arbitration, talk as much shit about them as possible so that way they don't get too much money and put us in a position where we'd be ****ed.

[Carl J. Ironsides]

We did the same thing to all of our guys when we took them to arbitration. Difference is, none of our guys are that classless to not keep it behind closed doors. As part of the arbitration process, your supposed to talk shit about the player so they don't get awarded too much.

We would have done thast to paetsche and roy had they actually went to arbitration, talk as much shit about them as possible so that way they don't get too much money and put us in a position where we'd be ****ed.

To say Avery's a "detriment to team" when he clearly wasn't is classless, in my opinion. And it was my understanding that he didn't leak the documents; they were somehow given to the New York Post and Avery simply commented on them after he found out. I could be wrong.

[bduff54]

You should throw up on Bduff right now then...lol :phaser:

lol, i think he would be a great sabre. That's just me though, i wear a tucker jersey for God's sake. i just love that type of player.

[Sabres244]

The Ranger and Glen Sather are classless

[Patrick!]

We did the same thing to all of our guys when we took them to arbitration. Difference is, none of our guys are that classless to not keep it behind closed doors. As part of the arbitration process, your supposed to talk shit about the player so they don't get awarded too much.

We would have done thast to paetsche and roy had they actually went to arbitration, talk as much shit about them as possible so that way they don't get too much money and put us in a position where we'd be ****ed.

You, sir, are an exquisite moron and know nothing about hockey.

[itslonganditsgood]

That is the down side of arbitration, the clubs need to keep prices down. Either way, that is pretty crappy of an organization to say that about one of their own. I can't believe Chris Drury wanted to play for that team.

[skoorah720]

I'll be the first to admit Avery isn't my favorite player, but he reminds me of a guy named Matt Barnaby...he had his place on this team back in the day. He wasn't well liked around the league, but he made players on the other team hate him and at times could even distract them. I'm not saying we should go after him at all, but he was one of the main reasons the Rangers made their stretch run. I 100% agree with C19

[Iggy72]

The Rangers have also signed Hossa for 1 yr/$780K.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=215158&hubname=

So that leaves even less money for Avery and for the rumoured Jovonoski deal. For those of you who care, here's another tidbit from Eklund which may have as much reality as the Marleau deal:

The Cammalleri situation is the most intriguing to me and I have heard rumours this morning that "you shouldn't forget the Sabres when it comes to making a deal for Mike. You need to remember that the Sabres were willing to match Drury's money from the Rangers. Drury chose to go to the Rangers, and the Sabres are happy with where they are right now, but should a Cammalleri become available..."

As for trying to sign Avery, the question I have is would he be better than Peca, or do you wait for a guy like Cammleri who may be an arbitration/RFA casualty? Speaking of which, are there any RFAs worth waiting for?

Pax.
Iggy72

[skoorah720]

The Rangers have also signed Hossa for 1 yr/$780K.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=215158&hubname=

So that leaves even less money for Avery and for the rumoured Jovonoski deal. For those of you who care, here's another tidbit from Eklund which may have as much reality as the Marleau deal:



As for trying to sign Avery, the question I have is would he be better than Peca, or do you wait for a guy like Cammleri who may be an arbitration/RFA casualty? Speaking of which, are there any RFAs worth waiting for?

Pax.
Iggy72

I don't see that many left on the arb list...maybe Cammleri, but I doubt that we get him. Here's TSN's arb list:

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/feature/?fid=7545


And about Avery I forgot to add...how can you hate a guy who's dating Elisha Cuthbert...maybe we should bring him to Buffalo if he brings her...haha

[Bay Side]

If they want to get tougher, then must sign him up!

[SabresFan220]

Avery is the most hated player in the NHL, he expects glowing remarks? He did play well for the Rangers up to the 2nd round, but after that he was a footnote in the series. He is not Sabre material, I don't want a guy who's mouth works harder than he does.

[SabresFan220]

Oh, and looking at the arbitration list, we won't be getting Mike Cammalleri unless LA gets stupid, so we might as well forget about him. But Trent Hunter could be a guy I'd look into unless he expects $3 million. Exelby probably won't be walked away from either, but I think we'd all like him in a Sabre uniform. Ryan Craig would be a solid physical 4th line guy if he doesn't expect a fortune. So I guess that those of us waiting for Darcy to grab a big time guy who gets walked away from in arbitration are going to be kind of disappointed unless we somehow got Cammalleri. I'd be content with Exelby or Hunter if we don't overpay them too.

[SHINEdown30]

I would like to see him a Sabre. He brings that physical play we need.......... but not for 2.6 mil like he wants.

[Hockeystud1414]

To say Avery's a "detriment to team" when he clearly wasn't is classless, in my opinion. And it was my understanding that he didn't leak the documents; they were somehow given to the New York Post and Avery simply commented on them after he found out. I could be wrong.

I do agree, but I'm just saying it's arbitration, imagine this: If the Rangers talked about how great avery is then the arbitrator would award him a ton of money and everyone in here would bitch about how overpaid he is, how ****ed up arbitration is, and how the league is headed towards another lockout. That's my point.

[Carl J. Ironsides]

I do agree, but I'm just saying it's arbitration, imagine this: If the Rangers talked about how great avery is then the arbitrator would award him a ton of money and everyone in here would bitch about how overpaid he is, how ****ed up arbitration is, and how the league is headed towards another lockout. That's my point.

Can't argue with that, but I think the Rangers could have gone about it in a less cutthroat manner.

[Hockeystud1414]

You, sir, are an exquisite moron and know nothing about hockey.

bwahahahahahahaha...patrick? WHO THE **** ARE YOU? Your even a hockey fan? Oh yeah, I see you commenting on NOTHING about arbitration or the system and how it works? Who the hell do you think you are?


Look patty cake patty cake, stick into the football forums where you belong, this isn't the sport for you smart guy. I just can't stop laughing at how pathetic you have shown yourself to be....go home.

[Hockeystud1414]

Can't argue with that, but I think the Rangers could have gone about it in a less cutthroat manner.

yeah maybe ya shouldnt be as brutal on the guy, but c19, if we went to arbitration with Roy, what would you say about him? Just curiousity...

If it was me, I would've said everything bad that people were saying in here, not becayuse I really believed it, but just because I don't want Derek gettin too much money and putting me in a tough spot.

[Hockeystud1414]

As for trying to sign Avery, the question I have is would he be better than Peca, or do you wait for a guy like Cammleri who may be an arbitration/RFA casualty? Speaking of which, are there any RFAs worth waiting for?

Pax.
Iggy72

No thanks on Cammaleri. I'd love in in a sabres uni, he'd be great! But it would be a lot cheaper for peca, he's only askin for 1.25 mill and we could just deal off kotalik and save money on that move alone. Plus he is a great pk and leader. That's what we need.

[Scary Good]

What do you really expect from the Rangers?