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Jeanneret's LaLaLa
July 27th, 2007, 8:15:21 PM
okay i heard this from a friend, who knows a lot about hockey and is very reliable, and i was just wondering if anyone else has heard this rumor as well. Basically to my knowledge, sharks would get martin st. louis, lightning would spacek and afinogenov, and we would get patrick marleau. and then of course there was a mess of draft picks going everywhere. just thought id throw this out there considering i havent seen anything on it and just wondered if anyone has heard anything like this.

ricogarion
July 27th, 2007, 8:18:20 PM
Marleau will be a Sabre someway,somehow it will get done.

Sabres244
July 27th, 2007, 8:24:00 PM
Max better not go anywhere. Only way I want Marleau is if he signs an extension here

jamiezzz
July 27th, 2007, 8:39:48 PM
where does that leave us defensively

jheigl
July 27th, 2007, 8:40:17 PM
spam

SabreNasty2630
July 27th, 2007, 8:41:55 PM
where does that leave us defensively

No worse than we are with Spacek. I'd much rather have Paetsch in the line-up.

skoorah720
July 27th, 2007, 8:43:36 PM
interesting...but I agree 244 ONLY if Marleau signs an extension...

but it probably won't happen

mikgaes
July 27th, 2007, 8:44:04 PM
where does that leave us defensively

This sounds like another Teddi Bruschi sort of rumor, but if it were true and we got rid of those two salaries it would make picking up Markov or Sutton feasable, no?

SabresFan220
July 27th, 2007, 9:06:20 PM
The Lightning would jump for joy if they could get Max from us, that's why I wouldn't do it. Dumping Spacek sounds great, and getting Marleau long term would be nice, but not at the price of Afinogenov. He may be willing to extend his contract in the coming years to stay in Buffalo for less than he would get elsewhere. I would sooner try to convince Tampa to accept draft picks with Spacek from us than handing them Afinogenov. The idea in getting Marleau is having a playmaker for Max and Vanek, not at the cost of either of them.

Sabres244
July 27th, 2007, 9:09:31 PM
and no way TB can afford Jaro and Max even if they trade MSL. Well they could but I don't think it would be a wise move, and who knows if SJ can afford MSL.

Carl J. Ironsides
July 27th, 2007, 9:18:13 PM
This is one spamtastic rumor. The Sabres would give up a big-time player and a fan favorite as well in Afinogenov for Marleau, a free agent-to-be. How does that make sense? I'll take Marleau, but not for Max. Can you imagine the fans' mutiny if the team loses Briere, Drury and Afinogenov in one offseason?

Hockeystud1414
July 27th, 2007, 10:25:49 PM
spam

not just spam, SPAMOCULOUS! No link even...

voicekiller
July 27th, 2007, 10:55:00 PM
I would do that...

stevesy
July 28th, 2007, 12:05:36 AM
Sweet trade rumor Eklund, Jr.

This trade can lick my balls. Just kidding. But seriously.

cjpearl2
July 28th, 2007, 1:47:48 AM
Coach C? Is that you? Just kidding!!

So you heard this from a friend who heard this rumor? Triple hearsay? Very nice.

Circusboy39
July 28th, 2007, 1:58:52 AM
This trade won't happen because if Max leaves, who is our #1 RW? Stafford in his 1st full year? Kotalik? Mair if the 4 centers are Timmy, Roy, Marleau, Goose? While dumping the Spacek salary would be nice, a very moderatley priced Afinogenov is not worth giving up just to clear it. This trade just makes no sense whatsoever.

Jeanneret's LaLaLa
July 28th, 2007, 2:04:44 AM
hey guys, im just telling you what i heard, and i just wanted to know if anyone had heard anything about this, so lay off me for trying to find out if there was any truth to this but coming here and as i clearly said asking a question to all the people on the range

Mouldsie
July 28th, 2007, 2:14:19 AM
f that

Pondslider
July 28th, 2007, 2:50:41 AM
An almost identical rumor was posted at SF too. That version had Buffalo giving up Afinogenov, Spacek and a 1st round pick for Marleau while San Jose got St. Louis and Spacek, and Tampa got Afinogenov, Buffalo's 1st and San Jose's 1st. Buffalo gets destroyed in either deal.

skoorah720
July 28th, 2007, 3:05:54 AM
I would make that deal if we got some kind of draft pick back in return...I doubt we'd pull a 1st, but a second would suffice or a nice prospect.

smashingt2312
July 28th, 2007, 3:08:57 AM
No need to trade max, he would of had around 85-100 points if he didnt get hurt last year.

Southside
July 28th, 2007, 3:37:28 AM
okay--lets take a look at this....all emotions aside.

The vast majority of folks on this board have had it with Spacek, so from that point of view it doenst look bad. Personally, I think the entire team (except Miller) took turns wetting the bed during last years playoffs.

that brings us to Max....This part gets alittle tougher. Man, when he is on--its all on, and I have not witnessed a player in person since Gilbert that generates the enthusiasm that Max does....but seriously, if we look at spacek as a salary dump (?) then we have to go "head to head" with Maleau (provided he comes with a contract ext.):

Max-Playoffs--9 pts--5 assists--4 goals in 15 games. Regular season=61 pts.
Marleau-Playoffs-- 6 pts--3 assists--3 goals-11 games. Regular Season=78 points.

Slight tip to Marleau here. Lets not forget Max found Lindy's dog house for a game, and lets be honest--there were plenty of times that ALL OF US screamed (in our living rooms and elsewhere) "God D**m Max" after some stupid giveaway. Marleau had almost half of Max's penalty minutes (33 to 60+ for Max methinks). Objectively, Max lacks consistency--perhaps a little more than some.

From a GM's perspective--you're only as good as your last season. If Darcy and Quinn are really serious about changing the playoff look of this team--maybe--just maybe this trade makes sense--and only if Spacek is our of there to recover cap space and develop blue liners.

Please spare me the "NO way, Max Rocks" spam. Or the tired "the fans would revolt" because if the fans didnt revolt already over the Captains lost then this wont be that huge, either. although the perception that it would bring disenchantment might be the reason it wont.
I just received a followup invoice from the Sabres today--last time I received one was just before something else unpopular happened. Perhaps its telegraphing something here.

Do I really think this deal comes off? No, not really, but I dont doubt that soemone told our tipster about it either. Just great fuel for off-season fire.

that said--I would love to see marleau here--with of without Max. And I am not down on Max--just "up" on bringing a Cup to Buffalo.

IMHO
Southside

SHINEdown30
July 28th, 2007, 6:55:50 AM
Rather have Max and Spacek. I think Marleau is overrated. But if we get St.Louis then its a different story.

Dontdieman
July 28th, 2007, 8:07:39 AM
*yawn* hear say doesnt fly in court and it wont fly here.

Poz51
July 28th, 2007, 9:32:22 AM
I'd do that deal, but I don't see it happening.

two4trippn
July 28th, 2007, 9:55:24 AM
This trade won't happen because if Max leaves, who is our #1 RW? Stafford in his 1st full year? Kotalik? Mair if the 4 centers are Timmy, Roy, Marleau, Goose? While dumping the Spacek salary would be nice, a very moderatley priced Afinogenov is not worth giving up just to clear it. This trade just makes no sense whatsoever.
Pominville remains our #1 with Stafford our #2. Kotalik has been playing LW.

Southside
July 28th, 2007, 10:22:05 AM
Martin St. Louis?
Think about it....
SALARY=Too High.
Size= Too small (for this team)
Age= too High.

IMHO=Not a good fit especially not for Spacek and Max.
Hell, I would riot if that deal took place!

Not that I believe any of this will, anyhow.

IMHO
southside

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July 28th, 2007, 11:30:02 AM
I don't think the Sharks can afford to have St. Louis' contract even if they trade Marleau. Michalek is going to be a RFA after this year also, and they will need to resign him, or someone will sign him to an offer sheet.

It would be nice to have Marleau on this team though, we should go after him. Marleau on a line with either Vanek or Stafford would be sweet.

Sabres244
July 28th, 2007, 1:11:00 PM
Martin St. Louis?
Think about it....
SALARY=Too High.
Size= Too small (for this team)
Age= too High.

IMHO=Not a good fit especially not for Spacek and Max.
Hell, I would riot if that deal took place!

Not that I believe any of this will, anyhow.

IMHO
southside

Reading problems? We'd be getting Marleau

Bay Side
July 28th, 2007, 5:40:24 PM
Wont happen