Ron Paul warns of staged terror attack

[shiva2999]

Why do you think I've been posting Ron Paul articles for four years?

I hope all you guys that have fallen in love with the good doctor after calling me crazy realize that we both wear the same tin foil hat.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/thecrypt/0707/Ron_Paul_warns_of_staged_terror_attack.html

July 13, 2007
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Ron Paul warns of staged terror attack

Republican presidential candidate, Rep. Ron Paul, said the country is in "great danger" of the U.S. government staging a terrorist attack or a Gulf of Tonkin style provocation, as the war in Iraq continues to deteriorate.

The Texas congressman offered no specifics nor mentioned President Bush by name, but he clearly insinuated that the administration would not be above staging an incident to revive flagging support.

"We're in danger in many ways," Paul said on the Alex Jones radio show. "The attack on our civil liberties here at home, the foreign policy that's in shambles and our obligations overseas and commitment which endangers our troops and our national defense."

Paul was asked to respond to comments by anti-war activist Cindy Sheehan that the U.S. is in danger of a staged terror attack or a provocation of an enemy similar to the Gulf of Tonkin incident in 1964 before the Vietnam War.

During the radio interview, Paul said the government was conducting "an orchestrated effort to blame the Iranians for everything that has gone wrong in Iraq."

The comments come as several prominent terrorism experts have warned the U.S. is facing an increased risk of attack this summer. Earlier this week, in an interview with the Chicago Tribune, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said he had a "gut feeling" the U.S. would be attacked again.

The remark angered some Democrats, who criticized Chertoff for being too vague. And some pundits seized on his remarks, saying the vague warnings were meant only to revive flagging support for the war in Iraq and Bush’s larger war against terrorism.

[uppy]

If its done its for "the good of the country"

[shiva2999]

Here's one of Dr Paul's articles I posted.

You might want to read it.

http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congrec2003/cr071003.htm

HON. RON PAUL OF TEXAS
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

July 10, 2003


Neo – CONNED !

The modern-day limited-government movement has been co-opted. The conservatives have failed in their effort to shrink the size of government. There has not been, nor will there soon be, a conservative revolution in Washington. Party control of the federal government has changed, but the inexorable growth in the size and scope of government has continued unabated. The liberal arguments for limited government in personal affairs and foreign military adventurism were never seriously considered as part of this revolution.

Since the change of the political party in charge has not made a difference, who’s really in charge? If the particular party in power makes little difference, whose policy is it that permits expanded government programs, increased spending, huge deficits, nation building and the pervasive invasion of our privacy, with fewer Fourth Amendment protections than ever before?

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[ICRockets]

If its done its for "the good of the country"

Is there anything a Republican government can do that won't make you say things that prove how much of a batshit insane poptart you are?

[comericatigers]

Interesting, but never going to happen.

[uppy]

Is there anything a Republican government can do that won't make you say things that prove how much of a batshit insane poptart you are?

It has nothing to do with politics,its about protecting our country.Some people in this fourm could care less about our security they are just driven
by hate for GWB

[Ru]

Not saying that we aren't in danger of a staged attack, but I see nowhere in that article where Ron Paul said any such thing. This just seems like an attempt to portray him as some crackpot.

[comericatigers]

We don't need Ron Paul. Al Qaeda is doing plenty with regard to a possible terror attack.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/07/terror-commande.html
http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/07/signal-to-attac.html

[uppy]

Its no use Comericatigers,if and when Al Qaeda attacks on US soil the moonbats will blame it on Bush.

[shiva2999]

We don't need Ron Paul. Al Qaeda is doing plenty with regard to a possible terror attack.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/07/terror-commande.html
http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/07/signal-to-attac.html

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!

You really swallow this bullshit?

[uppy]

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!

You really swallow this bullshit?

You see comericatigers,its starting already...lmao

[shiva2999]

You see comericatigers,its starting already...lmao

Take good care of your little band of followers Uppy.

The group is melting as fast as the Wicked Witch of the West.

[uppy]

Take good care of your little band of followers Uppy.

The group is melting as fast as the Wicked Witch of the West.

The strong always Survive,I'd be more conserned about your pack of
sensitive children

[sukie]

Not saying that we aren't in danger of a staged attack, but I see nowhere in that article where Ron Paul said any such thing. This just seems like an attempt to portray him as some crackpot.

Ru I thought I was alone until I saw this post... Paul said no such thing... Cindy did

[comericatigers]

Its no use Comericatigers,if and when Al Qaeda attacks on US soil the moonbats will blame it on Bush.

The moonbats always need a scapegoat for their own faults.

[shiva2999]

The moonbats always need a scapegoat for their own faults.

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[uppy]

The moonbats always need a scapegoat for their own faults.

They also need Allies,just as the antiwar movement in the United States can
strengthen the resistance in Iraq, the Iraqi resistance can aid the antiwar movement.

[comericatigers]

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Shiva I am glad you find the act of cutting of someone's head funny. Once again you are capitalizing off of someone's misfortune for your own gain. Shows what type of person you are.

[shiva2999]

Shiva I am glad you find the act of cutting of someone's head funny. Once again you are capitalizing off of someone's misfortune for your own gain. Shows what type of person you are.

Yup, that's the type of guy I am.

People getting blown up is funny too!

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[C Darwin]

False flag operations, that's crazy talk.
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[Gibby]

If its done its for "the good of the country"

God you are such a poptart.

[sukie]

Again on behalf of Ru and myself... Where did Ron Paul warn of any staged attack? I like pre-emptive conspirate theories.

[35Pete]

If its done its for "the good of the country"

If you truly believe this instead of just ball busting then you should be hanged for treason.

[uppy]

If you truly believe this instead of just ball busting then you should be hanged for treason.

What do you think Pete,do I believe it ?

[anEinherjer]

Uppy, I have no doubt that you'd have been first in line to join the nazis...

[uppy]

Uppy, I have no doubt that you'd have been first in line to join the nazis...

Thank God I was born 30 years too late ;)

[Al Davis]

If its done its for "the good of the country"

How can murdering our own citizens better the country? You realize if this happens you can kiss the rest of the constitution and bill of rights goodbye.

Some neocon said for a nation to prosper, it must have a enemy image...BS. They require us to have a enemy image so we can keep swallowing their lies allowing them to drive the stake deeper into Americas heart.

[TRIPLE P]

If its done its for "the good of the country"

So if the target is your kids school your cool with that as long as america is safe?

[uppy]

So if the target is your kids school your cool with that as long as america is safe?


Sure,if Bu$hco needs to pull off a second 9/11 he can take me and my kid
out.The problem is where in Shiva's post does Paul say there is going to
be a staged attack,you miss the point.

[shiva2999]

Sure,if Bu$hco needs to pull off a second 9/11 he can take me and my kid
out.The problem is where in Shiva's post does Paul say there is going to
be a staged attack,you miss the point.

They're taking it seriously over at freerepublic uppy...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1865940/posts

[uppy]

They're taking it seriously over at freerepublic uppy...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1865940/posts

I thought the boys at FR where wing-nuts ?

[shiva2999]

I thought the boys at FR where wing-nuts ?

They sure are but they have no problem understanding it.

What's wrong with you?

[uppy]

They sure are but they have no problem understanding it.

What's wrong with you?

Show me where Paul said there is going to be a staged attack ?

[35Pete]

They're taking it seriously over at freerepublic uppy...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1865940/posts

Here's the comments. Yes, they are taking it VERY seriously.

Thank God Shiva for real patriots like Ron Paul who just tossed a JAR of flies in the ointment of the BA.

Now if they try to pull a false flag operation the nation will explode in outrage.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/thecrypt/0707/Ron_Paul_warns_of_staged_terror_attack.html

[sukie]

All this about a guy polling at 0.1%

[35Pete]

All this about a guy polling at 0.1%

If that's true then why is he one of the most googled names on the internet.
Why does he have way more money now then John McCain.

Stop citing the establishment when it's convenient, and discounting them when it's not.

[sukie]

He's popular on the internet but not in polls

[shiva2999]

Here

Watch FoxNews brainiacs call Ron Paul a wackjob conspiracy theorist...

http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/16/video-michelle-takes-on-ron-paul-and-the-truthers-on-the-big-story/

[35Pete]

Here

Watch FoxNews brainiacs call Ron Paul a wackjob conspiracy theorist...

http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/16/video-michelle-takes-on-ron-paul-and-the-truthers-on-the-big-story/

Shiva. Ever read the book "Hitler's Willing Executioners: Ordinary Germans and the Holocaust"?

Those folks sound every bit like them. Good patriotic germans that believe everything that their party tells them.

That made it easier to shoot women and children in the pits.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0679772685/ref=sib_dp_pt/104-7790264-7879152#reader-link

[35Pete]

One more thing Shiva. Expect Ron Paul to get savaged for this.

He took away their Ace in The Hole and now they are extremely pissed. Murdering more Americans and blaming it on Iran was the guarantee for retaining the White House and reclaiming the congress.

[sukie]

Why bother savaging a faint blip.

[shiva2999]

Here Pete, you'll enjoy this.

One of Ron Paul's speeches I posted.

It just makes sense...

http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congrec2001/cr112901.htm

Congressman Ron Paul, House of Representatives, November 29, 2001

Keep Your Eye on the Target

Mr. Speaker:

We have been told on numerous occasions to expect a long and protracted war. This is not necessary if one can identify the target- the enemy- and then stay focused on that target. It's impossible to keep one's eye on a target and hit it if one does not precisely understand it and identify it. In pursuing any military undertaking, it's the responsibility of Congress to know exactly why it appropriates the funding. Today, unlike any time in our history, the enemy and its location remain vague and pervasive. In the undeclared wars of Vietnam and Korea, the enemy was known and clearly defined, even though our policies were confused and contradictory. Today our policies relating to the growth of terrorism are also confused and contradictory; however, the precise enemy and its location are not known by anyone. Until the enemy is defined and understood, it cannot be accurately targeted or vanquished.

The terrorist enemy is no more an entity than the "mob"or some international criminal gang. It certainly is not a country, nor is it the Afghan people. The Taliban is obviously a strong sympathizer with bin Laden and his henchmen, but how much more so than the government of Saudi Arabia or even Pakistan? Probably not much.

Ulterior motives have always played a part in the foreign policy of almost every nation throughout history. Economic gain and geographic expansion, or even just the desires for more political power, too often drive the militarism of all nations. Unfortunately, in recent years, we have not been exempt. If expansionism, economic interests, desire for hegemony, and influential allies affect our policies and they, in turn, incite mob attacks against us, they obviously cannot be ignored. The target will be illusive and ever enlarging, rather than vanquished.

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[35Pete]

Shiva. That's a great non-fiction book by the way. I enthusiastically give it FIVE stars.

Non-fiction doctoral dissertation on the political-sociological dynamics that led to the rise of the 3rd Reich and enthusiastic slaughter of political criminals, homosexuals, jews, and gypsies by ordinary germans. Hitler never shot a jew. The run of the mill German did. And he (or she) did it with patriotic zeal.

[35Pete]

Here Pete, you'll enjoy this.

One of Ron Paul's speeches I posted.

It just makes sense...

http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congrec2001/cr112901.htm

Congressman Ron Paul, House of Representatives, November 29, 2001

Keep Your Eye on the Target

Mr. Speaker:

We have been told on numerous occasions to expect a long and protracted war. This is not necessary if one can identify the target- the enemy- and then stay focused on that target. It's impossible to keep one's eye on a target and hit it if one does not precisely understand it and identify it. In pursuing any military undertaking, it's the responsibility of Congress to know exactly why it appropriates the funding. Today, unlike any time in our history, the enemy and its location remain vague and pervasive. In the undeclared wars of Vietnam and Korea, the enemy was known and clearly defined, even though our policies were confused and contradictory. Today our policies relating to the growth of terrorism are also confused and contradictory; however, the precise enemy and its location are not known by anyone. Until the enemy is defined and understood, it cannot be accurately targeted or vanquished.

The terrorist enemy is no more an entity than the "mob"or some international criminal gang. It certainly is not a country, nor is it the Afghan people. The Taliban is obviously a strong sympathizer with bin Laden and his henchmen, but how much more so than the government of Saudi Arabia or even Pakistan? Probably not much.

Ulterior motives have always played a part in the foreign policy of almost every nation throughout history. Economic gain and geographic expansion, or even just the desires for more political power, too often drive the militarism of all nations. Unfortunately, in recent years, we have not been exempt. If expansionism, economic interests, desire for hegemony, and influential allies affect our policies and they, in turn, incite mob attacks against us, they obviously cannot be ignored. The target will be illusive and ever enlarging, rather than vanquished.

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Jesus. He was prophetic. And they call HIM the nutcase? I read that one a while ago.

[sukie]

Ron Paul circle jerking has spiked Sperm Bank intake, no doubt

[uppy]

Here's the comments. Yes, they are taking it VERY seriously.

Thank God Shiva for real patriots like Ron Paul who just tossed a JAR of flies in the ointment of the BA.

Now if they try to pull a false flag operation the nation will explode in outrage.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/thecrypt/0707/Ron_Paul_warns_of_staged_terror_attack.html

So,this link from the politico proves that Paul said in Shiva's first post
that Bu$hco is going to pull off a NEW staged attack like he did on 9/11
to rally the country....

I'm still waiting to see the words from Shiva's post saying he said that...but, by all means Pete,give us some links to moonbat bloges to prove something
that was not said

[35Pete]

So,this link from the politico proves that Paul said in Shiva's first post
that Bu$hco is going to pull off a NEW staged attack like he did on 9/11
to rally the country....

I'm still waiting to see the words from Shiva's post saying he said that...but, by all means Pete,give us some links to moonbat bloges to prove something
that was not said

No. I think he's talking about a false flag Gulf of Tonkin operation.

You do believe that Gulf of Tonkin was orchestrated by the US government to build up sympathy to go into Viet Nam, don't you?

[uppy]

No. I think he's talking about a false flag Gulf of Tonkin operation.

You do believe that Gulf of Tonkin was orchestrated by the US government to build up sympathy to go into Viet Nam, don't you?

I believe the Gulf of Tonkin was orchestrated by the US government,

but I know Mr.Bush and the US goverment DID NOT pull off 9/11 and

would never attack American citizen's for a politcal agenda.

When should I send you that compuss Pete,

you are lost ?

[Sparx]

compuss

Is this a new device that points north and also acts as a masturbatory tool?

[shiva2999]

but I know Mr.Bush and the US goverment DID NOT pull off 9/11 and

would never attack American citizen's for a politcal agenda.

:rofl:

How the **** do you know that?

Did Jesus appear to you in a vision and tell you so?

[uppy]

:rofl:

How the **** do you know that?

Did Jesus appear to you in a vision and tell you so?

Because Mr.Bush is a Compassionate Conservative.

BTW,did Satan appear before you and tell you Bu$co did it ?

[ckg68]

Its no use Comericatigers,if and when Al Qaeda attacks on US soil the moonbats will blame it on Bush.

And you know why?

This country misdirected its resources from Afghanistan-where the majority of AQ was based-to Iraq,where it wasn't. And it helped to incubate what could be the next generation of terrorists in Iraq.

[uppy]

And you know why?

This country misdirected its resources from Afghanistan-where the majority of AQ was based-to Iraq,where it wasn't. And it helped to incubate what could be the next generation of terrorists in Iraq.

No,Afghanistan became a NATO issue and they sent in forces.

[shiva2999]

Because Mr.Bush is a Compassionate Conservative.

BTW,did Satan appear before you and tell you Bu$co did it ?

No, unless you think "book larnin'" is inherently Satanic.

I hold the opinions I do because of conclusions from what I read and hear.

You hold the opinions that you do because of faith.

Like George Bush is a compassionate conservative.

There is ABSOLUTELY NO REASON to believe George Bush is either compassionate or conservative other than he told you so.

[35Pete]

Because Mr.Bush is a Compassionate Conservative.

BTW,did Satan appear before you and tell you Bu$co did it ?

Give me 5 examples of Bush's conservatism.

[ckg68]

No,Afghanistan became a NATO issue and they sent in forces.

Then why didn't they stay in Afghanistan and get the job done(i.e. find bin Laden and bring him to justice)?

[uppy]

I'm off the war on terror and Bush team for the next few days boys.

The debate in the last few weeks has gone into the abyss with those issues