Fred Thompson Must be the Man to Beat

[sukie]

Fred Thompson Must be the Man to Beat

Let me see if I can remember all the reasons why we’re not supposed to support Fred Thompson for president… according to politicos across the political spectrum.

* He’s too old (64) and he has cancer.
* He lacks political experience, or, he’s a Washington insider
* He’s been both bachelor and family man, twice
* He’s too conservative, or, not conservative enough
* He likes pretty women, though not the same way Bill Clinton does
* He’s too tough on abortion, but not tough enough for some
* He’s a national security hawk, or, maybe a globalist dove
* He’s a political nobody, or, a respected member of the Council on Foreign Relations
* He was a Washington lobbyist, though by all accounts, an underpaid one
* He’s just a TV prosecutor, or, a real prosecutor who often plays himself on TV
* He was a Watergate Nixon insider, or, he was a leading Watergate prosecutor
* Nixon thought he was a dunce, until the dunce forced Nixon to resign the Oval Office

Political pundits and campaign war rooms have carefully investigated Thompson and so far, this is what they have come up with as their reasons for which Thompson shouldn’t be the next president. Of course, politicos see all things in stark contrast, left-wing versus right-wing only. Left-wing pundits say he’s too far right and of course, right-wing pundits say he’s too far left.


hee hee hee
http://www.nationalledger.com/artman/publish/article_272614714.shtml

[Gibby]

He's an actor, he has a lousy senate record, and he's a dyed in the wool repugnican who reeks of neoconservatism. No thanks.

[uppy]

I'll take Fred over any one of the moonbats on the demo side

[Gibby]

you would, then again you would also elect Bush for a third term if you had the chance.

[uppy]

That is true I would vote for Mr.Bush to have a third term if I could.

[mikgaes]

No more Rethuglicans.

[HURLS]

Screw Fred Thompson, why doesn't Jack McCoy run? He ran the Law and Order office anyways.

[JLB]

He's an actor, he has a lousy senate record, and he's a dyed in the wool repugnican who reeks of neoconservatism. No thanks.

Being an actor makes no difference.

Have you ever seen him on the floor of the Senate?

Have you ever actually heard him speak on topic?

I have.

He's completely different from any Senator I've ever seen or heard.

This guy is a cut far and above the rest.

You really need to see him in action before just righting him off.

[JLB]

Screw Fred Thompson, why doesn't Jack McCoy run? He ran the Law and Order office anyways.

V.P. material maybe! :rockon:

[shiva2999]

Being an actor makes no difference.

Have you ever seen him on the floor of the Senate?

Have you ever actually heard him speak on topic?

I have.

He's completely different from any Senator I've ever seen or heard.

This guy is a cut far and above the rest.

You really need to see him in action before just righting him off.

:rofl:

What a bunch of bullshit.

I've been watching Fred Thompson since Watergate and he's the same scumbag today he was back then.

[JLB]

:rofl:

What a bunch of bullshit.

I've been watching Fred Thompson since Watergate and he's the same scumbag today he was back then.

:guy:

What a crock of shit!!

[mikgaes]

You really need to see him in action before just righting him off.


I'm writing him off anyway.

[sukie]

I'm writing him off anyway.

Says the one of many that have surrendered to the Hillary is da man ideals

[mikgaes]

Says the one of many that have surrendered to the Hillary is da man ideals

Geez now you're trying to clump me into categories based on what? Because I realize Fred Thompson running is a desparation move on the Republicans part?

[shiva2999]

:guy:

What a crock of shit!!

http://cache.boston.com/bonzai-fba/Third_Party_Photo/2007/07/04/1183542649_2985.jpg

[shiva2999]

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/07/04/not_all_would_put_a_heroic_sheen_on_thompsons_wate rgate_role/

Not all would put a heroic sheen on Thompson's Watergate role

By Michael Kranish, Globe Staff | July 4, 2007

WASHINGTON -- The day before Senate Watergate Committee minority counsel Fred Thompson made the inquiry that launched him into the national spotlight -- asking an aide to President Nixon whether there was a White House taping system -- he telephoned Nixon's lawyer.

Thompson tipped off the White House that the committee knew about the taping system and would be making the information public. In his all-but-forgotten Watergate memoir, "At That Point in Time," Thompson said he acted with "no authority" in divulging the committee's knowledge of the tapes, which provided the evidence that led to Nixon's resignation. It was one of many Thompson leaks to the Nixon team, according to a former investigator for Democrats on the committee, Scott Armstrong , who remains upset at Thompson's actions.

"Thompson was a mole for the White House," Armstrong said in an interview. "Fred was working hammer and tong to defeat the investigation of finding out what happened to authorize Watergate and find out what the role of the president was."

...more...

[sukie]

Geez now you're trying to clump me into categories based on what? Because I realize Fred Thompson running is a desparation move on the Republicans part?

Nope... you said no pethuglicans... That leaves Hillary... alone

[Gibby]

:guy:

What a crock of shit!!

I've seen him on C-SPAN 3 and I've seen his voting record. From this I gather that yes Shiva is correct and FDT is a douche.

[JLB]

I've seen him on C-SPAN 3 and I've seen his voting record. From this I gather that yes Shiva is correct and FDT is a douche.

You really needed to see a lot more than a c-span cut.

Fred Thompson describes himself as a conservative. He has an "86.1 percent lifetime (1995-2002) Senate vote rating compiled by the American Conservative Union (ACU)," compared to 89.3 for Bill Frist and 82.3 for John McCain.[8]
Thompson has said that federalism was his "lodestar" in the Senate, providing "a basis for a proper analysis of most issues: 'Is this something government should be doing? If so, at what level of government?'"[9]
Thompson supports free trade and low taxes.[10] [11] He says that Roe v. Wade was a wrong decision that ought to be overturned, but he also believes that states should decide not to criminalize young women for early term abortions.[12] [13] Thompson is skeptical that humanity is to blame for global warming.[14] He generally supports the right of law-abiding citizens to keep and bear arms.[15] His position on immigration is that U.S. borders need to be secured before considering comprehensive immigration reform.[10] Thompson supported the U.S. invasion of Iraq, but believes that mistakes have been made since then.[16] He also believes that Iran's threats of war should be taken seriously.

[Sparx]

[10] Thompson supported the U.S. invasion of Iraq, but believes that mistakes have been made since then.

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from 3:14:)

[mikgaes]

You really needed to see a lot more than a c-span cut.

Fred Thompson describes himself as a conservative. He has an "86.1 percent lifetime (1995-2002) Senate vote rating compiled by the American Conservative Union (ACU)," compared to 89.3 for Bill Frist and 82.3 for John McCain.[8]
Thompson has said that federalism was his "lodestar" in the Senate, providing "a basis for a proper analysis of most issues: 'Is this something government should be doing? If so, at what level of government?'"[9]
Thompson supports free trade and low taxes.[10] [11] He says that Roe v. Wade was a wrong decision that ought to be overturned, but he also believes that states should decide not to criminalize young women for early term abortions.[12] [13] Thompson is skeptical that humanity is to blame for global warming.[14] He generally supports the right of law-abiding citizens to keep and bear arms.[15] His position on immigration is that U.S. borders need to be secured before considering comprehensive immigration reform.[10] Thompson supported the U.S. invasion of Iraq, but believes that mistakes have been made since then.[16] He also believes that Iran's threats of war should be taken seriously.

He's against Roe v. Wade. Definitely won't fly. No way. No how.

Lot's of candidates claim to to be for comprehensive immigration reform. Bush I said no new taxes too. Republicans lie. They lie to get themselves elected, then they lie to you when they're in office (Bush II "Iraq had WMDs).

All the candidates think Iran's threats should be taken seriously.

I would not try to boast about my Senate voting record by holding it up to Bill Frist. Frist is being run out of politics on a rail.

Big deal to supporting the 2nd amendment. We want the assault weapon ban (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_assault_weapons_ban) put back in place. Anybody who doesn't support that is dangerous. A list of who voted for and against that bill: here (http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=103&session=2&vote=00126). The bill (http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c103:H.R.3355.ENR:) itself, for anyone interested.

So in essence you're telling us that the mighty (ahem) Fred Thompson is also telling the American public exactly what he expects they want to here. http://floridasportsman.com/art/rolleyes.gif. He clearly panders to the 30 year old alpha-American male with all these views. Thank goodness there are more more intelligent 30 year old males out there than that.

Fred Thompson: http://www.haxed.co.uk/cms/uploads/pics/giant_rolleyes.gif

[mikgaes]

I won't vote for him. However in fairness to those on both sides of the Thompson campaign I offer this:

http://www.ontheissues.org/senate/Fred_Thompson.htm

[Green Lantern]

You really needed to see a lot more than a c-span cut.

Fred Thompson describes himself as a conservative. He has an "86.1 percent lifetime (1995-2002) Senate vote rating compiled by the American Conservative Union (ACU)," compared to 89.3 for Bill Frist and 82.3 for John McCain.[8]
Thompson has said that federalism was his "lodestar" in the Senate, providing "a basis for a proper analysis of most issues: 'Is this something government should be doing? If so, at what level of government?'"[9]
Thompson supports free trade and low taxes.[10] [11] He says that Roe v. Wade was a wrong decision that ought to be overturned, but he also believes that states should decide not to criminalize young women for early term abortions.[12] [13] Thompson is skeptical that humanity is to blame for global warming.[14] He generally supports the right of law-abiding citizens to keep and bear arms.[15] His position on immigration is that U.S. borders need to be secured before considering comprehensive immigration reform.[10] Thompson supported the U.S. invasion of Iraq, but believes that mistakes have been made since then.[16] He also believes that Iran's threats of war should be taken seriously.

You don't normally punctuate.

Do you have a link for this or are you claiming it as your own?

[Green Lantern]

Fred Thompson Must be the Man to Beat

Let me see if I can remember all the reasons why we’re not supposed to support Fred Thompson for president… according to politicos across the political spectrum.

* He’s too old (64) and he has cancer.
* He lacks political experience, or, he’s a Washington insider
* He’s been both bachelor and family man, twice
* He’s too conservative, or, not conservative enough
* He likes pretty women, though not the same way Bill Clinton does
* He’s too tough on abortion, but not tough enough for some
* He’s a national security hawk, or, maybe a globalist dove
* He’s a political nobody, or, a respected member of the Council on Foreign Relations
* He was a Washington lobbyist, though by all accounts, an underpaid one
* He’s just a TV prosecutor, or, a real prosecutor who often plays himself on TV
* He was a Watergate Nixon insider, or, he was a leading Watergate prosecutor
* Nixon thought he was a dunce, until the dunce forced Nixon to resign the Oval Office

Political pundits and campaign war rooms have carefully investigated Thompson and so far, this is what they have come up with as their reasons for which Thompson shouldn’t be the next president. Of course, politicos see all things in stark contrast, left-wing versus right-wing only. Left-wing pundits say he’s too far right and of course, right-wing pundits say he’s too far left.


hee hee hee
http://www.nationalledger.com/artman/publish/article_272614714.shtml


I don't see "He's a skin puppet" on this list. What's up with that?

[pmoon6]

Posted By mikgaes
Big deal to supporting the 2nd amendment. We want the assault weapon ban put back in place. Anybody who doesn't support that is dangerous. A list of who voted for and against that bill: here. The bill itself, for anyone interested.Who is "we". Anyone that thinks banning semiautomatic weapons is a good thing and will prevent crime is a moron.

[JLB]

You don't normally punctuate.

Do you have a link for this or are you claiming it as your own?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Dalton_Thompson

Sorry its wiki.

[sukie]

I don't see "He's a skin puppet" on this list. What's up with that?

:rofl: that is funny.

[JLB]

Thompson was admitted to the State Bar of Tennessee in 1967 and worked as an assistant U.S. attorney from 1969 to 1972.[22] He was the campaign manager for Republican U.S. Senator Howard Baker's successful re-election campaign in 1972, which led to a close personal friendship with Baker. He later served as co-chief counsel to the Senate Watergate Committee in its investigation of the Watergate scandal, (1973–1974), and afterwards wrote a book about it

more wiki for the need to read crowd.

[Green Lantern]

I watched him on some special investigation panel when he was in the Senate during the Clinton years.

He was acting like his topic was like Watergate and then the wheels fell off when they couldn't find any credible witnesses. And as you all know, it was nothing special since none of us can remember what the investigation was about now.

[JLB]

I watched him on some special investigation panel when he was in the Senate during the Clinton years.

He was acting like his topic was like Watergate and then the wheels fell off when they couldn't find any credible witnesses. And as you all know, it was nothing special since none of us can remember what the investigation was about now.

Were there credible witnesses or not what year was it?

We need to clarify such an open statement.

Do you judge him on this statement of yours or not just curious?

You really need more to judge a man on.

How do you rate Obama?

Who do you know best and what proves it as far as your concerned?

Was it a speech or debate statement what exactly?

Or does nobody quite yet convince you they deserve your vote?

[Green Lantern]

Were there credible witnesses or not what year was it?

We need to clarify such an open statement.

Do you judge him on this statement of yours or not just curious?

You really need more to judge a man on.

How do you rate Obama?

Who do you know best and what proves it as far as your concerned?

Was it a speech or debate statement what exactly?

Or does nobody quite yet convince you they deserve your vote?

There were tons of witnesses. As I recall, it was one of those Clinton investigations that just petered out. Like what Gilly assumes happens to Bush.

You do not need to know what investigation it was, that is my point. That you cannot remember him heading an investigatory Senate panel from his years in the Senate tells you more about that panel than I could.

I judge him on his witchhunt. I also find it funny that he slinked away when it did not shake the earth.

The election season has not begun. I do not have an opinion about most candidates because I am not really paying attention to them.

I know about Thompson from his previous service. I know about Richardson as he was once my governor. Edwards is slimy.

[mikgaes]

Who is "we". Anyone that thinks banning semiautomatic weapons is a good thing and will prevent crime is a moron.

Oh no. Quite the opposite. Anyone who believes private citizens should ever have a right to carry such weapons is a moron. You sound like you fit the bill.

[35Pete]

Oh no. Quite the opposite. Anyone who believes private citizens should ever have a right to carry such weapons is a moron. You sound like you fit the bill.

Sounds to me that you trust the gubbmint more than you trust your fellow citizen.

[mikgaes]

Sounds to me that you trust the gubbmint more than you trust your fellow citizen.

There you go being Republican again. Making assumptions about what a stranger says, interjecting your own beliefs and making accusatory statements. That is a very Republican thing to do. In fact that's exactly how all the Rethuglican talking heads wage their scare-wars through the Rupert Murdoch-friendly media sources.

[35Pete]

There you go being Republican again. Making assumptions about what a stranger says, interjecting your own beliefs and making accusatory statements. That is a very Republican thing to do. In fact that's exactly how all the Rethuglican talking heads wage their scare-wars through the Rupert Murdoch-friendly media sources.

:rofl:

I expected more out of you Mik.

Not the "repub" vs. "dem" pigeonholing that I'm seeing here in this response.

[sukie]

Pete mik also off handedly grouped you with morons... the same strategy he deplores.

[JLB]

There were tons of witnesses. As I recall, it was one of those Clinton investigations that just petered out. Like what Gilly assumes happens to Bush.

You do not need to know what investigation it was, that is my point. That you cannot remember him heading an investigatory Senate panel from his years in the Senate tells you more about that panel than I could.

I judge him on his witchhunt. I also find it funny that he slinked away when it did not shake the earth.

The election season has not begun. I do not have an opinion about most candidates because I am not really paying attention to them.

I know about Thompson from his previous service. I know about Richardson as he was once my governor. Edwards is slimy.

It petered out why?
You say I can't remember you brought it up.
You really need more on this witch hunt accusation.
He slinked away that's interesting but you can't remember what it was when why...............etc. etc.

[35Pete]

Pete mik also off handedly grouped you with morons... the same strategy he deplores.

Gotta wonder if I am dealing with another mouthpiece. Seems like it.

The nice thing about not having a party loyalty is that if I decide to, I can point out hypocrisy and double standards from either party with the greatest of ease. I mean it's too easy.

[pmoon6]

Oh no. Quite the opposite. Anyone who believes private citizens should ever have a right to carry such weapons is a moron. You sound like you fit the bill.Such weapons? Do you even know anything about firearms? A semiauto is not an "assault rifle", it's just a term the faggits gave to scare the general uneducated population such as yourself.

A fully automatic weapon is an assault rifle and they have been illegal since 1934 unless you are willing to spend a $1000 dollars a year for the license and have the ATF visit you once a month. The hoods don't have to worry about it though because they have other means of obtaining them.

Tell you what, you can come and try to confiscate my "assault rifles" or more practically have Big Brother do it for you.

That would be about your speed.

[pmoon6]

Gotta wonder if I am dealing with another mouthpiece. Seems like it.

The nice thing about not having a party loyalty is that if I decide to, I can point out hypocrisy and double standards from either party with the greatest of ease. I mean it's too easy.Yeah, he's a mouthpiece. I guess it depends on the day who's "piece" his mouth is on. That's why I call him Gaymik.:D

[35Pete]

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y241/35Pete/bitchslap.jpg

[35Pete]

Yeah, he's a mouthpiece. I guess it depends on the day who's "piece" his mouth is on. That's why I call him Gaymik.

Well. "Gaymik's" not cool. Just "Mik".

But party line guys irritate me. Yeah yeah, I used to be one of them.

But they still irritate me. The whole "groupthink" thing drives me nuts.

[pmoon6]

Well. "Gaymik's" not cool. Just "Mik".

But party line guys irritate me. Yeah yeah, I used to be one of them.

But they still irritate me. The whole "groupthink" thing drives me nuts.Sorry, I added the smilie.

[35Pete]

Sorry, I added the smilie.

Regarding post #39. By that definition a Browning Sweet 16 is considered an "automatic rifle".

The anti Bill of Rights crowd really need to educate themselves first before speaking. The ignorance is astounding. I mean truly astounding.

[pmoon6]

Regarding post #39. By that definition a Browning Sweet 16 is considered an "automatic rifle".

The anti Bill of Rights crowd really need to educate themselves first before speaking. The ignorance is astounding. I mean truly astounding.I don't think they are "anti-Bill of Rights, they just pick the ones they like and interpret the others to fit their limited mentality.

...or they just stick to the party line.

I find it amusing that someone can say one type of gun is more dangerous than another.

I guess at the end of the day, we should just ban all guns. It's worked so well in Australia.

[mikgaes]

Such weapons? Do you even know anything about firearms? A semiauto is not an "assault rifle", it's just a term the faggits gave to scare the general uneducated population such as yourself.

A fully automatic weapon is an assault rifle and they have been illegal since 1934 unless you are willing to spend a $1000 dollars a year for the license and have the ATF visit you once a month. The hoods don't have to worry about it though because they have other means of obtaining them.

Tell you what, you can come and try to confiscate my "assault rifles" or more practically have Big Brother do it for you.

That would be about your speed.

Really moonpie?

To fire, the operator inserts a loaded magazine, moves the selector lever to the lowest position, pulls back and releases the charging handle, aims, and then pulls the trigger. In this setting, the gun fires only once (semi-automatic), requiring the trigger to be released and depressed again for the next shot. With the selector in the middle position (full-automatic), the rifle continues to fire, automatically cycling fresh rounds into the chamber, until the magazine is exhausted or pressure is released from the trigger. As each bullet travels through the barrel, a portion of the gases expanding behind it is diverted into the gas tube above the barrel, where it impacts the gas piston. The piston, in turn, is driven backward, pushing the bolt carrier, which causes the bolt to move backwards, ejecting the spent round, and chambering a new round when the recoil spring pushes it back.[16]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_rifle

http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcassaul.html

http://www.answers.com/topic/assault-weapon

There really is no such thing as an "assault weapon" unless one choses to call any weapon used to assault someone an "assault weapon," or unless one uses the term to refer to an assault rifle, which is defined by a federal agency with the background to know something about firearms. "Assault weapon" is a term that was originally applied by gun makers and sellers to semiautomatic firearms that looked like assault rifles. The gun control advocates picked it up and started using it to refer to anything ugly or strange looking. But many people now use the term without even realizing that they don't know what it means.

http://www.gunsandcrime.org/ (http://www.gunsandcrime.org/asltweps.html)
Problem for you is I do know what it means.

Q: Does the law ban all semi-automatic guns? Does it affect hunting rifles and shotguns?

A: No. The definition of an assault weapon is tightly drawn. Only semi-automatic guns with multiple assault weapon features are banned (see below). Traditional guns designed for use in hunting and recreational activities are not affected. To alleviate concerns that hunting weapons somehow might be affected, the law provides specific protection to 670 types of hunting rifles and shotguns that are presently being manufactured. The list is not exhaustive and a gun does not have to be on the list to be protected. Again, the only weapons that are prohibited are those with multiple assault weapon features.

http://www.bradycampaign.orghttp:///facts/ (http://www.bradycampaign.orghttp:///facts/faqs/?page=awb)

I understand the point you're trying to make and I understand the now-expired law. While I support the above as defined by the Brady Campaign, I also see no reason to allow any semi-automatic to be available to private citizens. Only a knuckle-dragger would try and make a point for that. Hunt all you want. I have no qualms with that. But you don't need to do it with a semi-automatic.

http://floridasportsman.com/art/rolleyes.gif

[35Pete]

I own an AK-47. I have no intention of using it in an illegal manner. So buzz off.

[mikgaes]

I don't think they are "anti-Bill of Rights, they just pick the ones they like and interpret the others to fit their limited mentality.

...or they just stick to the party line.

I find it amusing that someone can say one type of gun is more dangerous than another.

I guess at the end of the day, we should just ban all guns. It's worked so well in Australia.

Yeah your way is good for 33 families of WVU, Columbine parents, etc.,etc,

Those who really have limited mentality, an agenda, and a way-of-life to protect are the ones who try and point out their opponents have limited mentality. Look in the mirror moonpie.

[mikgaes]

I own an AK-47. I have no intention of using it in an illegal manner. So buzz off.

Great. A guy who's most exciting day of the year was blowing off a grand in fireworks brags that he has an AK47. Do you know how that would make you look to an average citizen of the USA?

[35Pete]

Yeah your way is good for 33 families of WVU, Columbine parents, etc.,etc,

Those who really have limited mentality, an agenda, and a way-of-life to protect are the ones who try and point out their opponents have limited mentality. Look in the mirror moonpie.

Should we ban automobiles based on that logic Mik? What about knives? Bungee jumping? Scuba diving? Motorcycles?

What else should we ban Mik? Let's start with some simple ones that are not guaranteed by the constitution.

[35Pete]

Great. A guy who's most exciting day of the year was blowing off a grand in fireworks brags that he has an AK47. Do you know how that would make you look to an average citizen of the USA?

LOL Ask me if I care what the average citizen thinks.

If I told you that I owned a fishing pole you'd just assume that I was stating something.

But if I tell you it's a gun then it's bragging.

Mik. Come on, quit being a tool.

[mikgaes]

Ah the fishing pole justification. It's famous you know Pete. I've seen others use it. Next you're gonna go on about folks murdering fish. Give it a rest.

Everybody knows the vast difference between a fishing pole and an AK47.

It's like trying to run someone over with a Hummer vs. a ten-speed bike.


And you would care when your gubbmint knocks on your door to take the rifle away. You should praise Bushie for letting things lie as they do now.

[pmoon6]

Really moonpie?



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_rifle

http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcassaul.html

http://www.answers.com/topic/assault-weapon


Problem for you is I do know what it means.



I understand the point you're trying to make and I unstand the now-expired law. While I support the above as defined by the Brady Campaign, I also see no reason to allow any semi-automatic to be available to private citizens. Only a knuckle-dragger would try and make a point for that. Hunt all you want. I have no qualms with that. But you don't need to do it with a semi-automatic.

http://floridasportsman.com/art/rolleyes.gifThat's one of the wife's pet names for me.:D

Look man. I have two semiauto rifles and two semiauto handguns. The only time I use a semiauto is to hunt antelope because they run really fast. The other is just for target shooting. I just don't see the point in banning them when they can be easily obtained on the black market. If you're a wacko and really want one to carry out a mass shooting, you can get one.

I don't think you have to worry though, as Lucidvision pointed out a while back, an expanded Brady/Clinton weapons ban will probably go through Congress after the Presidential election.

[mikgaes]

And I guess this is a good spot to restate this as I seem to be out here on an island by myself at the moment. I am not against the right to bear arms. Never was. Never will be. I am for sensible gun-ownership with tight reigns on gun owners. Semi-automatics do not fit that bill.

[pmoon6]

BTW, Moonpie has a great ring to it and is a nice touch.:D

[mikgaes]

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[mikgaes]

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[sukie]

Mik grow a pair... What name did Moonie call you?

[mikgaes]

Scroll upward.

[Green Lantern]

It petered out why?
You say I can't remember you brought it up.
You really need more on this witch hunt accusation.
He slinked away that's interesting but you can't remember what it was when why...............etc. etc.

Of course I can't. I stated that at the outset.

[JLB]

Of course I can't. I stated that at the outset.

True you did.
It just makes it difficult to sort it all out.
be good!!

[Green Lantern]

True you did.
It just makes it difficult to sort it all out.
be good!!

The point I was trying to make is that YOU don't remember this big commission he was on, right? It was on the news for months and no one remembers poor Thompson's performance.

People remembered Reagan turning in commies when he ran for president.

[JLB]

The point I was trying to make is that YOU don't remember this big commission he was on, right? It was on the news for months and no one remembers poor Thompson's performance.

People remembered Reagan turning in commies when he ran for president.

I have heard him speak on the floor many times.

These commissions are just so much bs.

He's completely and absolutely different in a good way from the other bought beef.

[Green Lantern]

When we get into the election cycle, I am sure someone will dig up his abysmal performance if he is still viable.

[JLB]

When we get into the election cycle, I am sure someone will dig up is abysmal performance if he is still viable.

Me to so right now not worth worrying about.

[Gibby]

Great. A guy who's most exciting day of the year was blowing off a grand in fireworks brags that he has an AK47. Do you know how that would make you look to an average citizen of the USA?

Well armed? I used to live in a very bad neighborhood where the police took some 30 to 45 minutes to get to you after you called for assistance. I took the liberty to acquire an ak and then one night I was half asleep and I heard some rummaging downstairs and so I picked up my kalashnikov and went downstairs, the little dipshit who had broken in dropped almost everything he had plotted to seize and he cut and run. Yup, my AK is the best security system I ever had. Needless to say no thug ever bothered me again as long as I lived there. Now I still have that, but just don't tell the landlord. :D

[35Pete]

Well armed? I used to live in a very bad neighborhood where the police took some 30 to 45 minutes to get to you after you called for assistance. I took the liberty to acquire an ak and then one night I was half asleep and I heard some rummaging downstairs and so I picked up my kalashnikov and went downstairs, the little dipshit who had broken in dropped almost everything he had plotted to seize and he cut and run. Yup, my AK is the best security system I ever had. Needless to say no thug ever bothered me again as long as I lived there. Now I still have that, but just don't tell the landlord. :D

Thanks for that tid bit Gibby. Here in South Florida the situation is the same even in "nice" neighborhoods. I actually bought my AK-47 because it is an absolute hoot at the target range (nothing like plinking at targets all day with double 30 round taped clips or a 70 round drum). But then after my first hardcore hurricane I realized that a.) the looters ARE out there, and b.) the police are NOT going to help you. During hurricane Wilma I loaned most of my firearms out to responsible friends that I have either personally trained prior and shot with at the range or they've used firearms all there lives. Believe me they are grateful. Especially when most have families. I find the AK-47 to be an absolutely fantastic perimeter defense weapon for several reasons: a.) it truly does intimidate the hell out of people, b.) the 70 round clip outguns most any gang of thugs, c.) the size and the strap make it compact and easy to wield, d.) it was cheap as hell and therefore a frugal security investment. And man is that thing easy to disassemble and maintain.

[Green Lantern]

When we get into the election cycle, I am sure someone will dig up his abysmal performance if he is still viable.

Me to so right now not worth worrying about.

Jul 16, 4:19 AM EDT


Interest in Fred Thompson's Papers High

By DUNCAN MANSFIELD
Associated Press Writer


KNOXVILLE, Tenn. (AP) -- If one man's trash is another man's treasure, then one politician's old papers are potentially another politician's - or journalist's - gold mine.

Which explains why Republican Fred Thompson's previously little-noticed personal papers at the University of Tennessee from his eight years in the Senate are suddenly in demand as he nears a decision on a 2008 presidential run.

Thompson donated the documents four years ago when he gave up his political career in favor of acting. Academics haven't paid much attention, chief archivist Bobby Holt said, but journalists have been poring through the more than 400 boxes held by UT's Howard Baker Jr. Center for Public Policy...

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/F/FRED_THOMPSON_ARCHIVES?SITE=1010WINS&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

[г]

Did I read that correctly or does JLB think that Fred Thompson is the man to beat off to ?

[sukie]

Pete... It is impressive. Awesome piece of hardware

[pmoon6]

Thanks for that tid bit Gibby. Here in South Florida the situation is the same even in "nice" neighborhoods. I actually bought my AK-47 because it is an absolute hoot at the target range (nothing like plinking at targets all day with double 30 round taped clips or a 70 round drum). But then after my first hardcore hurricane I realized that a.) the looters ARE out there, and b.) the police are NOT going to help you. During hurricane Wilma I loaned most of my firearms out to responsible friends that I have either personally trained prior and shot with at the range or they've used firearms all there lives. Believe me they are grateful. Especially when most have families. I find the AK-47 to be an absolutely fantastic perimeter defense weapon for several reasons: a.) it truly does intimidate the hell out of people, b.) the 70 round clip outguns most any gang of thugs, c.) the size and the strap make it compact and easy to wield, d.) it was cheap as hell and therefore a frugal security investment. And man is that thing easy to disassemble and maintain.Totally correct. I have it's predessesor the SKS. Fun gun at the range and great for coyotes. I don't have it loaded in the house though, I keep a Para Ordnance .45 in the night stand which is made in Canada by some of our brothers in the Great White North.

[pmoon6]

After all the gun talk, I have to say I wouldn't vote for Freddie because I don't think he is up for the job. I will have to look at his record closely if he gets the nomination, but I'm like Aquaman. I wait until the canidates are decided before I pay real close attention.

[35Pete]

After all the gun talk, I have to say I wouldn't vote for Freddie because I don't think he is up for the job. I will have to look at his record closely if he gets the nomination, but I'm like Aquaman. I wait until the canidates are decided before I pay real close attention.

Gun Owners of America (superior constitutionally to the NRA IMO), kinda rates Fred as lukewarm. "Generally he supports the 2nd amendment...".

http://gunowners.org/pres08/thompson2.htm

They love Ron Paul though.

http://gunowners.org/pres08/paul.htm


The democrats pretty much get F grades for their scornful contempt of this critical constitutional right.

[shiva2999]

I don't need a gun.

I can play golf.

I think I'll go fondle my clubs.

[pmoon6]

Gun Owners of America (superior constitutionally to the NRA IMO), kinda rates Fred as lukewarm. "Generally he supports the 2nd amendment...".

http://gunowners.org/pres08/thompson2.htm

They love Ron Paul though.

http://gunowners.org/pres08/paul.htm


The democrats pretty much get F grades for their scornful contempt of this critical constitutional right.Gun issues are only a small part of what I look for in a candidate. I think it's inevitable that the aforementioned expanded Clinton gun ban goes through Congress and will be signed by the new President except for maybe Dr. Paul. The good thing is it's not a confiscation bill so if you already have a weapon on their list you will be allowed to keep it.

[mikgaes]

I'd better hurry and go out and get an AK of my own. I may need to protect myself against you crazy bassturds some day.

:attn:

[pmoon6]

I'd better hurry and go out and get an AK of my own. I may need to protect myself against you crazy bassturds some day.

:attn:Nah, we'll protect you, you'll just have to make your way to the survivalist enclave in the Rockies.:D

[35Pete]

I'd better hurry and go out and get an AK of my own. I may need to protect myself against you crazy bassturds some day.

:attn:

Do it! Do it!

http://www.topguntours.co.uk/Resources/AK47.jpg

[mikgaes]

Nah, we'll protect you, you'll just have to make your way to the survivalist enclave in the Rockies.:D

I read this and had a flashback to the movie: Surviving the Game (Ice-T, Gary Busey). You remember... Busey hires a homeless black man to drive them to camp. The black fellow is to make a ton af money, plus get a free vacation and free food for his trouble. He comes to find out, that once he's been enticed into the mountains, that he was to be the target of their hunting expedition.

I ain't no liberal with a target on my hiney, moonpie. http://floridasportsman.com/art/eek.gifhttp://floridasportsman.com/art/biglaugh.gif

[pmoon6]

Never saw that one Mik. As far as having a target on your hiney, watch out for Meathead.

He swings both ways.

[JLB]

I don't need a gun.

I can play golf.

I think I'll go fondle my clubs.

Nixon played golf.

[shiva2999]

Nixon played golf.

Lots of people play golf.

Only a very small percentage CAN play golf.

The only American President that COULD play golf was JFK.

[sukie]

You mean the most Republican thinking Lefty president could swing the Edwin Watts? Nice.

[TigerJ]

I'll give him a listen if he can make up some ground on the front runners.