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shiva2999
June 28th, 2007, 4:05:24 PM
This article would be quite rightly be an object of derision if it was written and posted by one of the various right-wing cranks on this board.

So the fact these opinions are given credence by an institution like Reuters is doubly risible.

The War Against Hugo Chavez has moved into the realm of the insane.

Anyone that believes this crap is beyond the pale and like your country, needs serious help...

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N26353270.htm


FEATURE-Venezuela's Chavez seen wanting office "for life"
27 Jun 2007 18:03:43 GMT
Source: Reuters

By Bernd Debusmann, Special Correspondent

WASHINGTON, June 27 (Reuters) - Insecurity, "malignant narcissism" and the need for adulation are driving Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez's confrontation with the United States, according to a new psychological profile.

Eventually, these personality traits are likely to compel Chavez to declare himself Venezuela's president for life, said Dr. Jerrold Post, who has just completed the profile for the U.S. Air Force.

Chavez won elections for a third term last December. Since then he has stepped up his anti-American rhetoric, vowed to accelerate a march towards "21st Century socialism" and suggested that he intends to stay in power until 2021 -- a decade beyond his present term.

But Post -- who profiled foreign leaders in a 21-year career at the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency and now is the director of the Political Psychology Program at George Washington University -- doubts that Chavez plans to step down even then. "He views himself as a savior, as the very embodiment of Venezuela," Post said in an interview.

"He has been acting increasingly messianic and so he is likely to either get the constitution rewritten to allow for additional terms or eventually declare himself president-for-life."

Post portrays Chavez as "a masterful political gamesman" who knows that his popularity largely rests on being seen as a strong leader who takes on the United States, the Venezuelan elite and a host of other perceived enemies -- often with public insults that are rarely used by other leaders.

"To keep his followers engaged, he must continue outrageous and inflammatory attacks," Post said.

Even Chavez's most determined opponents concede that he is a gifted orator and has a rare ability to mesmerize audiences. In the language of political psychology, this is a "charismatic leader-follower relationship."

DONKEYS, THIEVES AND CRYBABIES

Chavez has called U.S. President George W. Bush a "donkey," U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice an "illiterate," former Mexican President Vicente Fox a "lapdog of imperialism" and Peruvian President Alan Garcia a "rotten thief" and a "crybaby."

Jose Miguel Insulza, the Secretary General of the Organization of American States, attracted the public label "*******" (as did Bush), and Chavez described the entire Brazilian Congress as "puppets."

"The major psychological reward for Chavez derives from being seen as the pugnacious openly defiant champion of the little man, as one of 'us' versus 'them,'" Post said.

In his assessment, one of the character traits that drive Chavez is "malignant narcissism," a term that denotes an extreme sense of self-importance and is usually coupled with extreme sensitivity to criticism.

"The arrogant certainty conveyed in his (Chavez's) public pronouncements is very appealing to his followers. But under this grandiose facade, as is typical with narcissistic personalities, is extreme insecurity," Post wrote in his profile "The Chavez Phenomenon" for the U.S Air Force.

Chavez's supporters dismiss such criticism as U.S. efforts to discredit a popular president. Chavez himself has repeatedly said Washington was engaged in psychological, political, economic and media warfare against him.

And yet, only last month, the Venezuelan government refused to renew the broadcast license of TV and radio network RCTV, the loudest voice against Chavez, highlighting his sensitivity to criticism.

His description of the Brazilian Congress as "puppets" came in response to a statement expressing concern for the freedom of expression after RCTV's closure. Chavez was so angry about a similar remark by the Spanish foreign minister, Miguel Angel Moratinos, that he said he would "take distance" from Spain.

"There are two circumstances when Chavez's messianic personality adversely affects his decision making, with a potential for flawed judgement," Post wrote in his study for the Air Force. "When he has just achieved a major success and when he perceives himself as failing."

That pattern has been consistent throughout his presidential terms -- bold actions when he felt heady with success; harsh rhetoric, confrontational moves and temporary depression when he felt weakened.

In the heady wake of his electoral triumph last December (he won 63 percent of the vote) Chavez nationalized the country's largest telecommunications company and its most important private electricity firm, as well as silencing RCTV.

But in the wake of one of his worst diplomatic defeats, the failure of a protracted and cHostly lobbying campaign to win a seat for Venezuela on the United Nations Security Council, Chavez was so despondent that he stayed away from an Ibero-American summit meeting in Uruguay. "My colleagues don't like me," he complained.

In Post's analysis, Chavez's flawed judgement was on display with his speech to the U.N. last September, when he called Bush "the devil" who had left a smell of sulphur in the assembly hall. Chavez's speech drew chuckles and applause -- but it lost him the U.N. Security Council seat that he had coveted.

shiva2999
June 28th, 2007, 4:09:42 PM
BTW, who is Dr Jerrold Post?

http://www.sallysatelmd.com/html/a-nytimes11.html

Mr. Hussein himself is a focus of Dr. Jerrold M. Post's analysis. In "Leaders and Their Followers in a Dangerous World: The Psychology of Political Behavior" (Cornell University Press), Dr. Post, a psychiatrist who founded the Center for the Analysis of Personality and Political Behavior at the Central Intelligence Agency, describes Mr. Hussein's "traumatic" childhood as an unwanted baby born to a depressed suicidal mother. Her failure to bond with him as an infant and his stepfather's abuse "wounded Saddam's emerging self-esteem, impairing his capacity for empathy" and setting the stage for his subsequent brutality. Summing up, Dr. Post said, "His troubles can really be traced back to the womb."

shiva2999
June 28th, 2007, 4:18:03 PM
Hey, great call there doc!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,3604,839391,00.html

Post, who is also a professor of political psychology at the capital's George Washington University, believes Saddam will never give up his chemical and biological weapons, or his nuclear programme, and will lash out with everything he has in his arsenal if he feels he is cornered, launching toxins and germs at invading US-British forces, and at Israel.

ticatfan3
June 28th, 2007, 4:18:03 PM
So for the record you are saying chevez does not want ot be pres for life?

ticatfan3
June 28th, 2007, 4:19:46 PM
Hey, great call there doc!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,3604,839391,00.html

Post, who is also a professor of political psychology at the capital's George Washington University, believes Saddam will never give up his chemical and biological weapons, or his nuclear programme, and will lash out with everything he has in his arsenal if he feels he is cornered, launching toxins and germs at invading US-British forces, and at Israel.I think by now the world knows saddam thought he had a pile of WMD, and his minions were to scared to tell him otherwise.

anEinherjer
June 28th, 2007, 4:26:47 PM
Ticat, he's not suggesting that, fallacy alert.

Chavez is a socialist wannabe tyrant like they all turn out to be, but that article is just stupid.

Lucidvizion
June 28th, 2007, 5:01:26 PM
WASHINGTON, June 27 (Reuters) - Insecurity, "malignant narcissism" and the need for adulation are driving Buffalo Range Member Shiva2999's confrontation with the United States, according to a new psychological profile.


Sorry, couldn't help it.

shiva2999
June 28th, 2007, 5:06:54 PM
Sorry, couldn't help it.

It wouldn't be the first time I've been accused of that around here.

I'm sure it won't be the last.

Victor7
June 28th, 2007, 5:41:05 PM
Speaking of insanity. Read on the news this morning that the US soccer team decided to move their training facility in Copa America yesterday 'cause aparently the tall building surrounding the field were a concern to security. They feared snipers could be around !!!! ..... lol like Chavez gives a shit about the soccer team.

pmoon6
June 28th, 2007, 7:01:56 PM
Speaking of insanity, when is your government going to stop aiding and abetting the influx of your less than desirable citizenry?

Victor7
June 28th, 2007, 7:32:03 PM
Speaking of insanity, when is your government going to stop aiding and abetting the influx of your less than desirable citizenry?

prove me they do

jimmifli
June 28th, 2007, 9:02:43 PM
Like those "projected IQ" articles from last election... Pure crap.

pmoon6
June 28th, 2007, 10:53:39 PM
prove me they doI don'ts have to proves anyting.

You proves dat de don't.

TigerJ
June 28th, 2007, 11:24:01 PM
I don't know who this Dr. Post is, and don't much care what he thinks about Hussein and Chavez. Chavez is what he is, and will end up doing whatever he does whatever Dr. Post or I think about it.

It is interesting to note that what Post describes of Hussein's infancy and his alleged psychological profile is a classic description of Reactive Attachment Disorder. That's something my wife and I had to research in connection with our foster parenting. Google it for an interesting and disturbing read.

Victor7
June 29th, 2007, 10:34:03 AM
I don'ts have to proves anyting.

You proves dat de don't.

Right, so you're the one that states my government aides illegals crossing and I have to prove they dont ???? ... dont think so. You talked out of your ass, you prove it. Nyce typing btw, I'm sure you didnt mean anything racial with it.

shiva2999
June 29th, 2007, 10:39:40 AM
I don't know who this Dr. Post is, and don't much care what he thinks about Hussein and Chavez.

As I posted, Dr Post was CIA for 21 years before he "left" to go into ahem, private practice.

TigerJ
June 29th, 2007, 12:13:33 PM
As I posted, Dr Post was CIA for 21 years before he "left" to go into ahem, private practice.

As I posted, I still don't much care.