Let's talk about sigs, shall we?

[shiva2999]

What could better summarize EVERYTHING I've been saying about why your country, America, is so ****ed up.

The right wants to kill the left.

Perfect.

Murderous and cowardly, hiding behind a rock with a great big honking gun, aiming to pick off the enemies trying to oppose the will of the plutocrats.

What a pathetic claim to fame. Killing for the empire.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v502/mightypeacewarrior/prssnipersig.jpg

[SpikedLemonade]

What a pathetic claim to fame. Killing for the empire.



Insert the word "Zionist" infront of empire and I'm on board.

I don't think Americans know which empire or whose empire they are killing for.

[anEinherjer]

Too bad I don't view sigs...

[TRIPLE P]

Too bad I don't view sigs...

:rockon: to lo-fi

[uppy]

Nice Sig MPW !

[ticatfan3]

Really the right is to busy working to be killin, all your violent protest you see are alway the left.

[pmoon6]

What could better summarize EVERYTHING I've been saying about why your country, America, is so ****ed up.

The right wants to kill the left.

Perfect.

Murderous and cowardly, hiding behind a rock with a great big honking gun, aiming to pick off the enemies trying to oppose the will of the plutocrats.

What a pathetic claim to fame. Killing for the empire.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v502/mightypeacewarrior/prssnipersig.jpgI think it's a great sig and that big honking gun will be the next one I buy.

[pmoon6]

Sweet weapon.

[shiva2999]

I think it's a great sig and that big honking gun will be the next one I buy.

Be my guest.

But if you use it to shoot people in the back from a blind, then you know what my opinion of you will be.

[pmoon6]

Be my guest.

But if you use it to shoot people in the back from a blind, then you know what my opinion of you will be.Who said anything about shooting people?

I was just kidding. My better half wouldn't allow me to spend $8000 on a gun just to cut down trees.:D

[shiva2999]

Sweet weapon.

Sweet teddy and stockings.

http://cache.jalopnik.com/cars/tailpipe_man.jpg

[nehemiah]

i think joemama is really the dude who can make the claim to "one shot, one kill"... he's been pwning this place lately.

[shiva2999]

Who said anything about shooting people?


What does "PRS SNIPER, ONE SHOT ONE KILL" mean to you?

[pmoon6]

Sweet teddy and stockings.

http://cache.jalopnik.com/cars/tailpipe_man.jpgWhy are you posting pictures like that of Sukie.

Pete might get jealous.:D

[shiva2999]

Why are you posting pictures like that of Sukie.

Pete might get jealous.:D

Watch it.

Pete will whip out his giant arsenal.

[pmoon6]

What does "PRS SNIPER, ONE SHOT ONE KILL" mean to you?C'mon man, I don't think he meant it literally.

[JLB]

I'm here to tell you Carl is harmless just ****ing relax.:burp:
I just need a little natural spring water that would be good for me.

[shiva2999]

C'mon man, I don't think he meant it literally.

Duh.

So what?

It's still a chickenshit metaphor.

Maybe I should use a Catholic priest for my sig and call it "PRS RAPIST, ONE BONER MULTIPLE BUTT****S"

[JLB]

if the shoe fits.

[35Pete]

Shiva. I think this is overblown. Me thinks MPW is just trying to get some people's goats here and apparently it's working. I don't think there is a hidden message in the sig.

Nevertheless this smells like a callout thread. And we've got a longstanding policy against that. So, considering that I recuse myself from mod'ing the PRS, if it is spammed or deleted by another mod then that will be at least two of us that agree with that.

[shiva2999]

How about I use a pic of Nick Berg and the boys and call it "PRS TERRORIST, ONE KNIFE ONE HEAD"?

Or a pic of an Iraqi insurgent and call it "PRS FREEDOM FIGHTER, ONE IED HUNDREDS OF PIECES"?

[shiva2999]

Shiva. I think this is overblown. Me thinks MPW is just trying to get some people's goats here and apparently it's working. I don't think there is a hidden message in the sig.


Horseshit.

[35Pete]

How about I use a pic of Nick Berg and the boys and call it "PRS TERRORIST, ONE KNIFE ONE HEAD"?

Or a pic of an Iraqi insurgent and call it "PRS FREEDOM FIGHTER, ONE IED HUNDREDS OF PIECES"?

In the picture the gun isn't pointed towards anything in particular. or in and of itself political. It's how it's utilized.

Now if it were a picture of a bomber laying waste to a village I'd see your point.

[dilbert]

Are you still pushing this stupid the right wants to kill the left BS?

[nehemiah]

america is NOT violent, though.

[shiva2999]

In the picture the gun isn't pointed towards anything in particular. or in and of itself political. It's how it's utilized.

Now if it were a picture of a bomber laying waste to a village I'd see your point.

Give your head a shake.

Here's one you might like.


PRS HIMMLER, ONE CONCENTRATION CAMP THOUSANDS OF JEWS

http://www.orange-papers.org/orange-Himmler3.png

[shiva2999]

Are you still pushing this stupid the right wants to kill the left BS?

Just because you don't get it doesn't mean it's not true.

[dilbert]

And just because you do, does not mean it is.

[35Pete]

Give your head a shake.

Here's one you might like.


PRS HIMMLER, ONE CONCENTRATION CAMP THOUSANDS OF JEWS

http://www.orange-papers.org/orange-Himmler3.png

I must say that you are quite clever. LOL

[JLB]

:popcorn: pwn'd in your own thread twice in the same night :rofl:

[dilbert]

america is NOT violent, though.


The sig proves it.

[shiva2999]

And just because you do, does not mean it is.

No it doesn't, so then the tiebreaker goes to the guy talking out of his head, not his ass.

[uppy]

How about I use a pic of Nick Berg and the boys and call it "PRS TERRORIST, ONE KNIFE ONE HEAD"?

Or a pic of an Iraqi insurgent and call it "PRS FREEDOM FIGHTER, ONE IED HUNDREDS OF PIECES"?

Go for it Shiva..its not that far off from the posts made from you and the
other moonbats

[shiva2999]

Go for it Shiva..its not that far off from the posts made from you and the
other moonbats

As a matter of fact you psycho, I would do nothing of the sort because it's....wait for it....


Stupid and wrong.

[ckg68]

Really the right is to busy working to be killin, all your violent protest you see are alway the left.

You must have missed Tim McVeigh.

And the Nichols brothers.

And Eric Rudolph.

They're all on the right.

Shall I go on?

[uppy]

As a matter of fact you psycho, I would do nothing of the sort because it's....wait for it....


Stupid and wrong.

ROTFLMAO

bullshit

You have gloated about the death of American troops in the past

[shiva2999]

ROTFLMAO

bullshit

You have gloated about the death of American troops in the past

Link it or go **** yourself.

[35Pete]

You must have missed Tim McVeigh.

And the Nichols brothers.

And Eric Rudolph.

They're all on the right.

Shall I go on?

As compared to just the number of fruitcakes in the Black Panthers, SDS, or Jonestown?

Fact is neither extreme can claim purity.

[uppy]

Link it or go **** yourself.

Link it, thats funny howabout read your posts daily,or is this just a semantics
game...lol. You should have been a lawyer you wasted your time making porn
movies all those years.

[shiva2999]

Link it, thats funny howabout read your posts daily,or is this just a semantics
game...lol. You should have been a lawyer you wasted your time making porn
movies all those years.

What does commandment #9 say numbnuts?

http://www.caverun.org/images/The_Ten_Commandments.gif

[GalaxyMerchant]

My sig doesnt make any political statement, however it can be considered satire, frustration, or even fact?

[uppy]

What does commandment #9 say numbnuts?

http://www.caverun.org/images/The_Ten_Commandments.gif

what does it say ?

[nehemiah]

As compared to just the number of fruitcakes in the Black Panthers, SDS, or Jonestown?:rolleyes:

[shiva2999]

:rolleyes:

+1.

[JLB]

what does it say ?

It says thou shall continue to pwn shi**2***.
Sorry that's all I could make out.
:popcorn:

[35Pete]

:rolleyes:

Your confusion surprises me not.

Just a bunch of peaceful kids with a conscience that vent by throwing rocks at ROTC recruiters and stuff like that.

[mighty peace warrior]

hahahahahahaahahaha....priceless

someone remember this thread the next time shiva claims to never have been wrong.


what a dumbass, roflmao!!!


priceless!!!

[nehemiah]

Your confusion surprises me not.

Just a bunch of peaceful kids with a conscience that vent by throwing rocks at ROTC recruiters and stuff like that.your jonestown comment is just stupid... but do you have any understanding of the history of SDS and the black panthers?

how many people did SDS or the black panthers kill?

:dunno:

[mighty peace warrior]

shiva if i wanted to off you i wouldn't use a gun, I would just have the guy who is watching you from outside your place make it look like an accident...I am the government and all....i hope that will help you relax.


i really appreciate the laugh you gave me in this thread

[35Pete]

your jonestown comment is just stupid... but do you have any understanding of the history of SDS and the black panthers?

how many people did SDS or the black panthers kill?

:dunno:

SDS and BP advocated violence. You know it. I know it.

Well Jonestown is valid. There's at least 400 right there. What's the point? You're condoning extremist behavior? Or trying to "prove" that it doesn't happen on the left?

Come on nehe. You're smarter than that.

[nehemiah]

SDS and BP advocated violence. You know it. I know it.

Well Jonestown is valid. There's at least 400 right there. What's the point? You're condoning extremist behavior? Or trying to "prove" that it doesn't happen on the left?

Come on nehe. You're smarter than that.MPW advocates violence in his sig. although it's a sweet sig, IMO...

so he's just as "bad" as the SDS or the black panthers?

[nehemiah]

the jonestown comparison is just friggin' stupid.

no offense.

[mighty peace warrior]

MPW advocates violence in his sig. although it's a sweet sig, IMO...

so he's just as "bad" as the SDS or the black panthers?

i am not really advocating violence in my sig..thats why this is so funny. cluelessness abounds

[Meathead]

i always assumed the gun image was metaphorical so no biggie

am i wrong

[Meathead]

oh good i wasnt

[Meathead]

personally i thought my ripley campaign was tits

[35Pete]

i am not really advocating violence in my sig..thats why this is so funny. cluelessness abounds

My guess is "metaphorical"?

[mighty peace warrior]

i like your current sig meat

[Meathead]

yeah ive got a lot of mileage out of this one too - and its still not stale lmao but true

[Shama-Lama Ding Dong]

Really the right is to busy working to be killin, all your violent protest you see are alway the left.

The left pays 80% of this country's income taxes.

[Shama-Lama Ding Dong]

MPW advocates violence in his sig. although it's a sweet sig, IMO...



He does not advocate violence. He advocates accuracy.

We all advocate violence. Some are poor shots. Chuck.

[JoeMama]

What could better summarize EVERYTHING I've been saying about why your country, America, is so ****ed up.

The right wants to kill the left.

Perfect.

Murderous and cowardly, hiding behind a rock with a great big honking gun, aiming to pick off the enemies trying to oppose the will of the plutocrats.

What a pathetic claim to fame. Killing for the empire.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v502/mightypeacewarrior/prssnipersig.jpg

I don't know, shives.

The signature is a little corny - but I wouldn't read that far into it.

I don't think it constitutes insight into the American psyche.

[sukie]

I need depends now... Losing all bodily function control upon seeing Shiva actually offended. Mark it and book the date and time. Wow what a chink in the armor for all to see. I almost believe in Jesus now. Help me!

[jimmifli]

I don't know, shives.

The signature is a little corny - but I wouldn't read that far into it.

I don't think it constitutes insight into the American psyche.
I find it interesting that people seem to think it's cool.

It's more than a little corny Joe, he's posted his application to the national dick measuring contest.

[Meathead]

my dick measures six inches ... in girth

you know those big heineken cans, thats what it looks like. only more fleshy

http://img2.travelblog.org/Photos/1352/3293/t/10936-Is-this-a-dream-come-true-0.jpg

[shiva2999]

I don't know, shives.

The signature is a little corny - but I wouldn't read that far into it.

I don't think it constitutes insight into the American psyche.

Yeah, and you were also the guy who couldn't figure out for the life of you how 300 was homoerotic and racist.

Anyway, keep it up along with the rest.

This thread is a hoot.

I love seeing rationalizations for MPW's huge steel penis that he wields from afar with self proclaimed accuracy.

It's nice to see he hits things in his imagination because in real life he's as wild as a Parkinson's victim with crossed eyes.

See ya later, you great big macho imperialists you.

I'm off to the golf course.

[pmoon6]

Highly entertaining.

I wonder how much play I could get out of "the only good liberal is a dead liberal" sig?

[pmoon6]

Yeah, and you were also the guy who couldn't figure out for the life of you how 300 was homoerotic and racist.

Anyway, keep it up along with the rest.

This thread is a hoot.

I love seeing rationalizations for MPW's huge steel penis that he wields from afar with self proclaimed accuracy.

It's nice to see he hits things in his imagination because in real life he's as wild as a Parkinson's victim with crossed eyes.

See ya later, you great big macho imperialists you.

I'm off to the golf course.Enjoy your round.

[JoeMama]

Yeah, and you were also the guy who couldn't figure out for the life of you how 300 was homoerotic and racist.

Anyway, keep it up along with the rest.

This thread is a hoot.

I love seeing rationalizations for MPW's huge steel penis that he wields from afar with self proclaimed accuracy.

It's nice to see he hits things in his imagination because in real life he's as wild as a Parkinson's victim with crossed eyes.

See ya later, you great big macho imperialists you.

I'm off to the golf course.

300 was super homoerotic. I never contested that.

And no matter how racist anyone considered it, I can't join in.

Being offended by movies is for pussy right-wingers that have nothing better to do than complain that films like Shark Tale, Spongebob Squarepants, or Happy Feet were liberal propoganda.

I take fiction for what it is - nothing more.

Plus, anyone who watched 300 and was seriously influenced to hate Iranians was probably a knuckledragger in the first place.

[ckg68]

As compared to just the number of fruitcakes in the Black Panthers, SDS, or Jonestown?

Fact is neither extreme can claim purity.

You're right to a point-Jonestown,IIRC,was more about religious lunacy than anything else.

But I cannot let ticat's statement of "only the left does violent stuff because the right is out there working" go unchallenged. Even Penn & Teller knew that that statement was BULL:censor:!

[stepsukie]

hi.

[TRIPLE P]

300 was super homoerotic. I never contested that.

And now matter how racist anyone considered it, I can't join in.

Being offended by movies is for pussy right-wingers that have nothing better to do than complain that films like Shark Tale, Spongebob Squarepants, or Happy Feet were liberal propoganda.

I take fiction for what it is - nothing more.

Plus, anyone who watched 300 and was seriously influenced to hate Iranians was probably a knuckledragger in the first place.


I didn't even think it was that good of a movie. But I'll watch slow-mo decapitations once.

[JLB]

The left pays 80% of this country's income taxes.

Hope your right know your not but if possible could you make it 85%.:burp:
I need more drinking money.

[mighty peace warrior]

I find it interesting that people seem to think it's cool.

It's more than a little corny Joe, he's posted his application to the national dick measuring contest.

another smart person looking stupid, my sig has nothing to do with actual guns. you guys get a stupid idea in your head it really festers.

offended by a picture of a gun...sad

dick shots the best you can do?

[mighty peace warrior]

Yeah, and you were also the guy who couldn't figure out for the life of you how 300 was homoerotic and racist.

Anyway, keep it up along with the rest.

This thread is a hoot.

I love seeing rationalizations for MPW's huge steel penis that he wields from afar with self proclaimed accuracy.

It's nice to see he hits things in his imagination because in real life he's as wild as a Parkinson's victim with crossed eyes.

See ya later, you great big macho imperialists you.

I'm off to the golf course.

hahahahahahahahahahaha

pathetic how you can consistently stick with something no matter how retarded you sound

[pmoon6]

another smart person looking stupid, my sig has nothing to do with actual guns. you guys get a stupid idea in your head it really festers.

offended by a picture of a gun...sad

dick shots the best you can do?LOL, you can always count on a dick or penis extender comment when talking about guns, the shooting sports or hunting.

I wonder how much some of these guys dicks would shrink if I blew one of their golfballs out of the sky in midflight?

That's assuming they have dicks in the first place.:D

[mighty peace warrior]

its funny to hear guys who like to walk around with long metal shafts in their hands on manicured grass talk about penis metaphors

[Crinoline]

I've been thinking of adding a sig. Something like:

Nero fiddled while Rome burned.
Bush signed the immigration bill while America burned.

[dilbert]

We should make new sigs just so Shiva can try to play psycho-analyst, after all he knows all thoughts that go on in our minds.

[Gilly]

We should make new sigs just so Shiva can try to play psycho-analyst, after all he knows all thoughts that go on in our minds.

ive already made a request..:smileymob:



"dont throw rocks at a guy with a machine gun" :nono: still the best quote in the forums!

[dilbert]

The quote proves I am a violent person because it talks about rocks and big, evil guns.

[TigerJ]

There are a few sigs I find to be disgusting, but I don't pay attention to most.

[mighty peace warrior]

its funny to see a liberal so worked up over art....

[shiva2999]

its funny to see a liberal so worked up over art....

Art?

:rofl:

http://inst.santafe.cc.fl.us/~mwehr/Personality/FreudMindDefensesBoree.html

The id, the ego, and the superego

Freudian psychological reality begins with the world, full of objects. Among them is a very special object, the organism. The organism is special in that it acts to survive and reproduce, and it is guided toward those ends by its needs -- hunger, thirst, the avoidance of pain, and sex.

A part -- a very important part -- of the organism is the nervous system, which has as one its characteristics a sensitivity to the organism's needs. At birth, that nervous system is little more than that of any other animal, an "it" or id. The nervous system, as id, translates the organism's needs into motivational forces called, in German, Triebe, which has been translated as instincts or drives. Freud also called them wishes. This translation from need to wish is called the primary process.

The id works in keeping with the pleasure principle, which can be understood as a demand to take care of needs immediately. Just picture the hungry infant, screaming itself blue. It doesn't "know" what it wants in any adult sense; it just knows that it wants it and it wants it now. The infant, in the Freudian view, is pure, or nearly pure id. And the id is nothing if not the psychic representative of biology.

Unfortunately, although a wish for food, such as the image of a juicy steak, might be enough to satisfy the id, it isn't enough to satisfy the organism. The need only gets stronger, and the wishes just keep coming. You may have noticed that, when you haven't satisfied some need, such as the need for food, it begins to demand more and more of your attention, until there comes a point where you can't think of anything else. This is the wish or drive breaking into consciousness.

Luckily for the organism, there is that small portion of the mind we discussed before, the conscious, that is hooked up to the world through the senses. Around this little bit of consciousness, during the first year of a child's life, some of the "it" becomes "I," some of the id becomes ego. The ego relates the organism to reality by means of its consciousness, and it searches for objects to satisfy the wishes that id creates to represent the organisms needs. This problem-solving activity is called the secondary process.

The ego, unlike the id, functions according to the reality principle, which says "take care of a need as soon as an appropriate object is found." It represents reality and, to a considerable extent, reason.

However, as the ego struggles to keep the id (and, ultimately, the organism) happy, it meets with obstacles in the world. It occasionally meets with objects that actually assist it in attaining its goals. And it keeps a record of these obstacles and aides. In particular, it keeps track of the rewards and punishments meted out by two of the most influential objects in the world of the child -- mom and dad. This record of things to avoid and strategies to take becomes the superego. It is not completed until about seven years of age. In some people, it never is completed.

There are two aspects to the superego: One is the conscience, which is an internalization of punishments and warnings. The other is called the ego ideal. It derives from rewards and positive models presented to the child. The conscience and ego ideal communicate their requirements to the ego with feelings like pride, shame, and guilt.

It is as if we acquired, in childhood, a new set of needs and accompanying wishes, this time of social rather than biological origins. Unfortunately, these new wishes can easily conflict with the ones from the id. You see, the superego represents society, and society often wants nothing better than to have you never satisfy your needs at all!

[mighty peace warrior]

its only art if you like it right shiva?

hahahahahahahaha

sad, sad, sad

now you have resorted to using another's words in a further lame attempt to insult me...

sad, sad, sad

the creativity it takes to cut and paste

[shiva2999]

its only art if you like it right shiva?


Lots of people were fond of this stuff. Is it art?

http://www.flholocaustmuseum.org/history_wing/assets/room1/17407.jpg

[Green Lantern]

Lots of people were fond of this stuff. Is it art?

http://www.flholocaustmuseum.org/history_wing/assets/room1/17407.jpg

I don't know if it is art, but it is a collectible in some circles.

[mighty peace warrior]

Lots of people were fond of this stuff. Is it art?

http://www.flholocaustmuseum.org/history_wing/assets/room1/17407.jpg

roflmao

[Gilly]

its only art if you like it right shiva?

hahahahahahahaha

sad, sad, sad

now you have resorted to using another's words in a further lame attempt to insult me...

sad, sad, sad

the creativity it takes to cut and paste



its only art if its a picture of Jesus with whale shit smeared all over it. now thats ok...

show a pic of our military guy and its nazi propaganda. gottal love the left!

[Lucidvizion]

Speaking of Freud...

“A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity” - Sigmund Freud

[dilbert]

The right wants to kill the left.



While you ramble with the "Right wants to Kill the Left" crap, apparently the left wants to kill the right too.

CARACAS, Venezuela — President Hugo Chavez urged soldiers on Sunday to prepare for a guerrilla-style war against the United States, saying that Washington is using psychological and economic warfare as part of an unconventional campaign aimed at derailing his government.

Dressed in olive green fatigues and a red beret, Chavez spoke inside Tiuna Fort — Venezuela's military nerve-center—before hundreds of uniformed soldiers standing alongside armored vehicles and tanks decorated with banners reading: "Fatherland, Socialism, or Death! We will triumph!"

"We must continue developing the resistance war, that's the anti- imperialist weapon. We must think and prepare for the resistance war everyday," said Chavez, who has repeatedly warned that American soldiers could invade Venezuela to seize control of the South American nation's immense oil reserves.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,286521,00.html

Of course, I expect some type of "Well, this is different" BS.

But it sure seems as if the leftists are saying they will kill you if you don't want Socialism and is even a bigger threat than MPW.

[shiva2999]

Speaking of Freud...

“A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity” - Sigmund Freud

LOL!

You guys are truly clueless.

Of course being afraid of weapons is irrational. Weapons are just objects.

But an angry retard with a weapon, that is something else entirely.

[shiva2999]

Of course, I expect some type of "Well, this is different" BS.

Translation?

"Of course I know that this is stupid and illogical but it's no fair for you to point this out!"

[dilbert]

Why is illogical or stupid?

Is not Chavez (Whon I assume you agree is on the left) threatening/promising death for those that don't want socialism?

[shiva2999]

Why is illogical or stupid?

Is not Chavez (Whon I assume you agree is on the left) threatening/promising death for those that don't want socialism?

Christ you're dumb sometimes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Give_me_liberty_or_give_me_death

Give me liberty or give me death
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Give me liberty or give me death" is a famous quotation from a speech made by Patrick Henry to the Virginia House of Burgesses.

The speech was given March 23, 1775, at St. John's Church in Richmond, Virginia, and is credited with having single-handedly convinced the Virginia House of Burgesses to pass a resolution delivering the Virginia troops to the Revolutionary War. In attendance were Thomas Jefferson and George Washington. Reportedly, the crowd, upon hearing the speech, jumped up and shouted, "To Arms! To Arms!"


Who's death was Patrick Henry referring to?

[Lucidvizion]

LOL!

You guys are truly clueless.

Of course being afraid of weapons is irrational. Weapons are just objects.

But an angry retard with a weapon, that is something else entirely.

Shiva, it's just a 400x120 pixel picture.

It's not an angry retard and it's not going to hurt you.

[shiva2999]

Shiva, it's just a 400x120 pixel picture.

It's not an angry retard and it's not going to hurt you.

This is a strawman.

I never stated or implied that MPW's sig made me feel personally threatened.

I know you, MPW and the other bozos who think it's okay would like it to be true, but it's not.

[dilbert]

Christ you're dumb sometimes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Give_me_liberty_or_give_me_death

Give me liberty or give me death
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Give me liberty or give me death" is a famous quotation from a speech made by Patrick Henry to the Virginia House of Burgesses.

The speech was given March 23, 1775, at St. John's Church in Richmond, Virginia, and is credited with having single-handedly convinced the Virginia House of Burgesses to pass a resolution delivering the Virginia troops to the Revolutionary War. In attendance were Thomas Jefferson and George Washington. Reportedly, the crowd, upon hearing the speech, jumped up and shouted, "To Arms! To Arms!"


Who's death was Patrick Henry referring to?

Henry did not make his speech with uniformed soldiers, armored vehicles and tanks around him.

You have often said the context of a quote must be taken into consideration. I would surmise that the meaning of this quote is quite different when it is presented in the presence of an armed militry force.

[shiva2999]

Henry did not make his speech with uniformed soldiers, armored vehicles and tanks around him.

You have often said the context of a quote must be taken into consideration. I would surmise that the meaning of this quote is quite different when it is presented in the presence of an armed militry force.

You should surmise that although the quote should be taken into context, it still doesn't mean that the laws of logic can be ignored in the analysis.

First of all, the context could be irrelevant, could make a minor difference or could make a major difference. That is what needs to be reasoned out. You can't use the concept of context to justify any old crazy and dumb opinion you want to pimp.

In this case, Chavez and Henry said essentially the same thing. The context in Henry's case was giving a speech before legislators with the power to authorize military force.

In Chavez' case, he gave the speech before the military force itself.

But so ****ing what?

It still doesn't change the fact that when Henry said "Give me liberty or give me death!" he was referring to HIS OWN DEATH.

Chavez does the exact same thing when he says "Fatherland, Socialism, or Death! We will triumph!" he is talking about HIS OWN DEATH.

Take the context even farther if you want.

The American colonies in Henry's time were preparing to defend themselves against the most powerful imperial force in the world.

Venezuela, in Hugo's time, is preparing to defend itself against the most powerful imperial force OF ALL TIME.

Any reasonable man admits that the Venezuelan right and the American right and the Columbian right would like nothing more than Hugo Chavez' head on a spear and are determined to take back control of Venezuela's oil.

Hugo and Venezuela are just preparing to defend themselves.

And you, with this argument, are pissing all over the English language and the rules of logical discourse to push your incomprehensible agenda of "fairness".

Dumb, dumb, dumb.

[Green Lantern]

Where does it say, in Shiva's assertion about the Left and the Right, that the Left would not defend itself if invaded?

[mighty peace warrior]

This is a strawman.

I never stated or implied that MPW's sig made me feel personally threatened.

I know you, MPW and the other bozos who think it's okay would like it to be true, but it's not.

that sig has nothing to do with threatening you or anyone else...

egomaniac

[mighty peace warrior]

LOL!

You guys are truly clueless.

Of course being afraid of weapons is irrational. Weapons are just objects.

But an angry retard with a weapon, that is something else entirely.

hahahahaha

how bout an angry retard with a keyboard?

talk about clueless

[pmoon6]

I'm lovin' this.

Clueless, dumb and stupid.

Yeah, we be that.

[shiva2999]

I'm lovin' this.

Clueless, dumb and stupid.

Yeah, we be that.

My favorite kind of thread. :D

[pmoon6]

My favorite kind of thread. :DAh Kneeew that you would.

[35Pete]

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