Why Can't Condi Rice Make a Deal?

[TheGoodShepherd]

Think about it.

She's been the head U.S. diplomat for years now.

But have you ever heard of her striking an accord, or treatise, or some other kind of meaningful diplomatic deal with any significant outside party?

Isn't that what Secretaries of State are supposed to do - make deals? isn't that how diplomats make their bones; by making deals?

If she was a football player she wouldn't have registered a tackle all year.

Is Rice the worst Sec of State the U.S. has ever seen?

Why can't Condi Rice make a deal?

[JLB]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/65/Condoleezza_Rice.jpg/480px-Condoleezza_Rice.jpg

If she ever jumps into it she wins it.:rockon:

[TheGoodShepherd]

If she ever jumps into it she wins it.:rockon:

But she's been in "it" for years now.

It's a serious question.

Why can't she make a deal?

[35Pete]

Think about it.

She's been the head U.S. diplomat for years now.

But have you ever heard of her striking an accord, or treatise, or some other kind of meaningful diplomatic deal with any significant outisde party?

Isn't that what Secretaries of State are supposed to do - make deals? isn't that how diplomats make their bones; by making deals?

If she was a football player she wouldn't have registered a tackle all year.

Is Rice the worst Sec of State the U.S. has ever seen?

Why can't Condi Rice make a deal?
I read somewhere that she is trying to make a deal. No...Olbermann said last night that the administration is cutting her from under her knees. All of the PNAC crowd. In fact, rumor has it that she may "resign".

[shiva2999]

Condi is an evil bimbo.

She only skates because she's black.

[Meathead]

youre black!

[JLB]

But she's been in "it" for years now.

It's a serious question.

Why can't she make a deal?

No I mean the Presidential race.:rockon:
Can you show some proof she's entered that race?

[TheGoodShepherd]

I read somewhere that she is trying to make a deal. No...Olbermann said last night that the administration is cutting her from under her knees. All of the PNAC crowd. In fact, rumor has it that she may "resign".

With who?

[TheGoodShepherd]

Condi is an evil bimbo.

She only skates because she's black.

Apparently she's a moron too acording to passages in Tenet's book that TIME magazine published.

But it's funny isn't....the head diplomat has yet to make a deal - of any kind.

[JLB]

With who?

Iran.:rockon:

[JLB]

Apparently she's a moron too acording to passages in Tenet's book that TIME magazine published.

But it's funny isn't....the head diplomat has yet to make a deal - of any kind.

http://www.petrifiedtruth.com/archives/Condi%2020020422-3-515h.jpg

You really don't know anything about her lol.:rockon:

[Gibby]

But she's been in "it" for years now.

It's a serious question.

Why can't she make a deal?

She doesn't deal in treaties or peace because her boss wants war. Much like Slidell's situation in the buildup to the Mexican War. Watch for a where have we seen this before thread elaborating on this within the next couple of hours.

[shiva2999]

http://www.petrifiedtruth.com/archives/Condi%2020020422-3-515h.jpg

You really don't know anything about her lol.:rockon:

Wow!

She played piano with YoYo Ma!

I'll have to revise my entire world view!

Maybe she'll do the next season of Dancing With the Stars!

[JLB]

Wow!

She played piano with YoYo Ma!

I'll have to revise my entire world view!

Maybe she'll do the next season of Dancing With the Stars!

Ms. Rice is an accomplished pianist. At 15 she performed Mozart's Piano Concerto in D minor with the Denver Symphony Orchestra, her prize for winning a student competition. Until college she intended to pursue music professionally. Now 51, she plays as often as every other week with this group, which convened three years ago. Until now it was a realm of her very public life that she kept private.

People often ask her, Ms. Rice said that day, whether playing chamber music is relaxing. "It's not exactly relaxing if you are struggling to play Brahms," she explained. "But it is transporting. When you're playing there is only room for Brahms or Shostakovich. It's the time I'm most away from myself, and I treasure it."

[shiva2999]

"It's the time I'm most away from myself, and I treasure it."

I can understand why she would.

[TRIPLE P]

Isn't she pretty much just a face and a name.... shes the black part, also the woman part...Gonzolez is the Latino part..... Bush is the good ol' boy.

I always just figured whoevers really making the decisions picked these people to play roles that were needed...

[JLB]

I can understand why she would.

She's a very intelligent woman.:rockon:

[shiva2999]

She's a very intelligent woman.:rockon:

That's the rumor.

I keep waiting to see it for myself.

[Gibby]

youre black!

so is my wife, what's your point?

[JLB]

That's the rumor.

I keep waiting to see it for myself.

Born November 14, 1954 in Birmingham, Alabama, she earned her bachelor's degree in political science, *** laude and Phi Beta Kappa, from the University of Denver in 1974; her master's from the University of Notre Dame in 1975; and her Ph.D. from the Graduate School of International Studies at the University of Denver in 1981. She is a Fellow of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences and has been awarded honorary doctorates from Morehouse College in 1991, the University of Alabama in 1994, the University of Notre Dame in 1995, the National Defense University in 2002, the Mississippi College School of Law in 2003, the University of Louisville and Michigan State University in 2004. She resides in Washington, D.C.

[shiva2999]

American Poli-Sci degrees!

:rofl:

[JLB]

In June 1999, she completed a six year tenure as Stanford University's Provost, during which she was the institution's chief budget and academic officer. As Provost she was responsible for a $1.5 billion annual budget and the academic program involving 1,400 faculty members and 14,000 students.

As professor of political science, Dr. Rice has been on the Stanford faculty since 1981 and has won two of the highest teaching honors -- the 1984 Walter J. Gores Award for Excellence in Teaching and the 1993 School of Humanities and Sciences Dean's Award for Distinguished Teaching.

[shiva2999]

In June 1999, she completed a six year tenure as Stanford University's Provost, during which she was the institution's chief budget and academic officer. As Provost she was responsible for a $1.5 billion annual budget and the academic program involving 1,400 faculty members and 14,000 students.

As professor of political science, Dr. Rice has been on the Stanford faculty since 1981 and has won two of the highest teaching honors -- the 1984 Walter J. Gores Award for Excellence in Teaching and the 1993 School of Humanities and Sciences Dean's Award for Distinguished Teaching.

Stanford has a shitty football team too.

[JLB]

Stanford has a shitty football team too.

http://www.denverautographs.com/images/ELHELST.JPG

[shiva2999]

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20030414/biuso

March 28, 2003 (web only)

Stanford U. and the Bush Administration

Emily Biuso


As student antiwar activists work to make their case against war persuasive to ambivalent classmates, the leaders of a Stanford University peace group have launched a different kind of campaign--to reform a conservative think tank on campus with dubious ties to the Bush Administration.

The 84-year-old, Stanford-based Hoover Institution, long famous for its influence over national Republican policy, currently wields substantial power at the Pentagon, with eight Hoover fellows sitting on the Defense Policy Board advising Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld on the war in Iraq. But the institution makes an impact, albeit of a different sort, at its home in California, too. A generous sum of Stanford's endowment goes to Hoover each year (the university donates $1 million in general funds to Hoover's library and archive annually) and some of the institution's right-leaning fellows teach in Stanford's economics and political science departments. Additionally, the two are linked in name and through shared property, and Hoover's director reports directly to Stanford's president.

...more...


:rofl:

Eight Stanford guys advising Rummy on Iraq.

How's that working out?

[35Pete]

With who?

Trying to meet with the Syrians as an intermediary with some of the insurgents.

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I hear she closed the deal with Peter McKay
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[shiva2999]

Hey Pete, read this incredibly prescient article by Justin Raimondo, another Libertarian.

You'll like it. I'll excerpt the part about Condi.

Note the date...

http://www.antiwar.com/justin/cheney.html

Special Edition: July 25, 2000

Dick Cheney and Bush's Other Warmongers

Dick Cheney's ascension to the number two spot on the Republican ticket tells us much about the kind of foreign policy we can come to expect if Dubya makes it to the White House. To begin with, it means that the US will be in the Balkans forever. As CEO of the Halliburton Company, Cheney was among the chief profiteers of the Kosovo war: Brown & Root, a Houston subsidiary of Halliburton, was awarded the engineering contract to house, feed, and otherwise amuse the US "peacekeepers" plonked down in the middle of that quagmire.

...and...

DUBYA'S POTEMKIN VILLAGE
The three foreign policy mavens always mentioned in news stories about Dubya's shadow Cabinet are: Condoleeza Rice, Paul Wolfowitz, and Dick Cheney. Ms. Rice, former Stanford University provost and a low-level advisor to Dubya's father, is often cited as the chief of this policy group, a future Secretary of State – but this is the story being told by the Bushies, and it doesn't quite add up. Like everything else in the Bush campaign, the foreign policy "team" assembled by the candidate and his campaign staff has all the earmarks of a classic Potemkin village – a phony façade put up to impress those who don't bother looking too closely. Well, then, let's look a little more closely at the Bushies' answer to Mad Madeleine.

ALL IN THE FAMILY
Rice started out as a music major at Stanford but almost flunked out, whereupon she switched to Soviet studies. Rice became interested in her specialty of Soviet studies as a student of Joseph Korbel, the father of Secretary of State Madeleine Albright. Now there is an interesting coincidence, one that underscores the inbred nature of the foreign policy-making elite: how different from Mad Madeleine will Secretary of State Rice turn out to be? Two years from today will we be calling her Crazy Condoleeza?

HISTORY OF A MEDIOCRITY
Having found her niche, Ms. Rice was quickly taken in hand by the Hoover Institution, a redoubt of the George Shultz/Bechtel wing of the Republican foreign policy elite, where she rose quickly through the ranks. As the sole person of color, and a female to boot, in an administration devoted to "affirmative access" (if not action), her visibility was high. But there is nothing in Rice's resume to suggest that she is the heavyweight the Bushies are describing. The apex of her academic career was reached with the 1984 publication of her magnum opus, The Soviet Union and the Czechoslovak Army, 1948-1983 : Uncertain Allegiance, a dissertation no more indicative of her capabilities as a future Secretary of State than her more recent unimpressive contribution to an anthology on German reunification.

WHAT GIVES?
In the first Bush administration Ms. Rice was the author of no known policy initiatives, and in the interim her career as provost at Stanford has not exactly catapulted her into the international spotlight. So what gives? How can we explain this strange gap between Rice's real achievements and the grandiose future planned for her by Bush campaign operatives?

THE RACE FACTOR
It is probably unkind, and no doubt a hate crime, to call attention not only to Ms. Rice's curious lack of qualifications but also to her race – to the likelihood that she is an affirmative action "front." In the same way that many companies nowadays get government contracts under affirmative action rules, with a bunch of white guys getting blacks (or whomever) to front for them, so it works the same way in politics, where identity politics and "diversity" are the political coin of the realm. The disparity between Rice's resume and her projected status in Dubya's administration is otherwise inexplicable. In an age where political correctness has even infected the Republican Party, race is always a key factor, not only in getting Ms. Rice where she is, but where – perhaps – she is going.

SELLING WAR TO MINORITIES
The great advantage of having an African American Secretary of State, who would forevermore be known as the First Black Secretary of State, is that it will help sell interventionism among American blacks and other minorities of color. Polls show that blacks are among the most skeptical when it comes to overseas intervention, generally agreeing with the proposition that we ought to take care of our problems right here at home. A black Secretary of State would help an administration hard-pressed to sell a war for oil in the far-off Transcaucus, or a Vietnam-style intervention against Colombian "narco-terrorists." Another big factor is motivating the troops, what with blacks and other minorities now making up a majority of the military rank-and-file.

...more...

[gilchristfan]

I hear she closed the deal with Peter McKay
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Is this McKay guy one of the gay brothers on Antiques Roadshow?

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/roadshow/series/images/jrroadshow/kenobroslg.jpg

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I thought the antiques roadshow was when my mother in law came up to visit

[35Pete]

Hey Pete, read this incredibly prescient article by Justin Raimondo, another Libertarian.

You'll like it. I'll excerpt the part about Condi.

Note the date...

http://www.antiwar.com/justin/cheney.html

Special Edition: July 25, 2000

Dick Cheney and Bush's Other Warmongers

Dick Cheney's ascension to the number two spot on the Republican ticket tells us much about the kind of foreign policy we can come to expect if Dubya makes it to the White House. To begin with, it means that the US will be in the Balkans forever. As CEO of the Halliburton Company, Cheney was among the chief profiteers of the Kosovo war: Brown & Root, a Houston subsidiary of Halliburton, was awarded the engineering contract to house, feed, and otherwise amuse the US "peacekeepers" plonked down in the middle of that quagmire.

...and...

DUBYA'S POTEMKIN VILLAGE
The three foreign policy mavens always mentioned in news stories about Dubya's shadow Cabinet are: Condoleeza Rice, Paul Wolfowitz, and Dick Cheney. Ms. Rice, former Stanford University provost and a low-level advisor to Dubya's father, is often cited as the chief of this policy group, a future Secretary of State – but this is the story being told by the Bushies, and it doesn't quite add up. Like everything else in the Bush campaign, the foreign policy "team" assembled by the candidate and his campaign staff has all the earmarks of a classic Potemkin village – a phony façade put up to impress those who don't bother looking too closely. Well, then, let's look a little more closely at the Bushies' answer to Mad Madeleine.

ALL IN THE FAMILY
Rice started out as a music major at Stanford but almost flunked out, whereupon she switched to Soviet studies. Rice became interested in her specialty of Soviet studies as a student of Joseph Korbel, the father of Secretary of State Madeleine Albright. Now there is an interesting coincidence, one that underscores the inbred nature of the foreign policy-making elite: how different from Mad Madeleine will Secretary of State Rice turn out to be? Two years from today will we be calling her Crazy Condoleeza?

HISTORY OF A MEDIOCRITY
Having found her niche, Ms. Rice was quickly taken in hand by the Hoover Institution, a redoubt of the George Shultz/Bechtel wing of the Republican foreign policy elite, where she rose quickly through the ranks. As the sole person of color, and a female to boot, in an administration devoted to "affirmative access" (if not action), her visibility was high. But there is nothing in Rice's resume to suggest that she is the heavyweight the Bushies are describing. The apex of her academic career was reached with the 1984 publication of her magnum opus, The Soviet Union and the Czechoslovak Army, 1948-1983 : Uncertain Allegiance, a dissertation no more indicative of her capabilities as a future Secretary of State than her more recent unimpressive contribution to an anthology on German reunification.

WHAT GIVES?
In the first Bush administration Ms. Rice was the author of no known policy initiatives, and in the interim her career as provost at Stanford has not exactly catapulted her into the international spotlight. So what gives? How can we explain this strange gap between Rice's real achievements and the grandiose future planned for her by Bush campaign operatives?

THE RACE FACTOR
It is probably unkind, and no doubt a hate crime, to call attention not only to Ms. Rice's curious lack of qualifications but also to her race – to the likelihood that she is an affirmative action "front." In the same way that many companies nowadays get government contracts under affirmative action rules, with a bunch of white guys getting blacks (or whomever) to front for them, so it works the same way in politics, where identity politics and "diversity" are the political coin of the realm. The disparity between Rice's resume and her projected status in Dubya's administration is otherwise inexplicable. In an age where political correctness has even infected the Republican Party, race is always a key factor, not only in getting Ms. Rice where she is, but where – perhaps – she is going.

SELLING WAR TO MINORITIES
The great advantage of having an African American Secretary of State, who would forevermore be known as the First Black Secretary of State, is that it will help sell interventionism among American blacks and other minorities of color. Polls show that blacks are among the most skeptical when it comes to overseas intervention, generally agreeing with the proposition that we ought to take care of our problems right here at home. A black Secretary of State would help an administration hard-pressed to sell a war for oil in the far-off Transcaucus, or a Vietnam-style intervention against Colombian "narco-terrorists." Another big factor is motivating the troops, what with blacks and other minorities now making up a majority of the military rank-and-file.

...more...

Makes sense. Try to sell foreign policy to minorities the way Aunt Jemima sells pancake syrup to lumberjacks.

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Do you know why I think you're gay ?

Because you know the characters on The Antiques Roadshow

[TheGoodShepherd]

She's utterly useless.

No matter what you say, at the end of the day, Rice has yet to make any kind of deal whatsoever.

She's as ineffective as they come.

[Gibby]

American Poli-Sci degrees!

:rofl:

easy now shiva.

[TheGoodShepherd]

JLB thanks for posting her resume, it was invaluable to the discussion.

:rolleyes2

Now can you please critique her actual peformance as the head U.S diplomat?

[35Pete]

Is this McKay guy one of the gay brothers on Antiques Roadshow?

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/roadshow/series/images/jrroadshow/kenobroslg.jpg

IS this the show where people dust off grandma's passed on spoon set, bring it in thinking they'll get like $350 for it and it turns out it was King Luis IV's personal soup spoon set and it's worth like $75,000?