Chris simon should get 50 games!!!

[bduff54]

he just took a mark mcgwire type swing at the head of holweg, it was disgusting! 50 games!

he literally could have killed him.

[Carl J. Ironsides]

Colin Campbell will probably give him two, then some Neanderthals will blame the guy who got swung at for "looking down." I quit.

[LetsGoBuffalo61]

Any Video?

[pigpen65]

yeah, post it as soon as you find it please. I was in the car at the time listening to a sports show when the guy started flipping out about how bad it was. flipped on the game when i got home but never got a replay. I want to see it.

screen shot looks pretty bad:

http://www.kuklaskorner.com/images/uploads/sima.gif

[JLB]

he just took a mark mcgwire type swing at the head of holweg, it was disgusting! 50 games!

he literally could have killed him.

Like 61 just ask if there is or if you get one later please post it.

[beTough54]

yeah, post it as soon as you find it please. I was in the car at the time listening to a sports show when the guy started flipping out about how bad it was. flipped on the game when i got home but never got a replay. I want to see it.

screen shot looks pretty bad:

http://www.kuklaskorner.com/images/uploads/sima.gif

Holy shit, look at his face! He should never play hockey again.

[nehemiah]

damn.

[JLB]

Son of a Bitch.

Sorry people!

[Sabres244]

what a scumbag

[Norwoodsrevenge]

I remember back when Teddy was here, there were constant rumors of him coming here. He was out "headhunting" Monday against the Rangers. In fact, I believe he took a boarding or charging penalty early in the game that was extremely cheap and dangerous but the NHL only bases suspensions on if the victim is injured.

[Sabres244]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ht6RyAI9370

[JLB]

Throw him the **** out!

[nehemiah]

50 games?

**** that.

ban him for life.

[K-Gun]

couldn't argue with a life ban.

[D34dm4n]

wow... just wow

[JLB]

He's gotta go for good.

Please show some balls NHL.

[MauvaisSang]

Any word on how Holweg is?

[Sabres244]

yes, ban for life sounds good

[K-Gun]

yes, ban for life sounds good

yeah, and it ain't like Simon is a spring chicken. He's had 15 years in this league, make him an example.

[billsfan69]

i'm speechless. simon should be in jail right now. and why were the friggin islander fans cheering? i agree with the posters who say he has to be kicked out of the league.

[smashingt2312]

Wow, i didnt think anything could rival the bertuzzi incident, it may of been passed, life ban i hope so.

[Sabres244]

Wow, i didnt think anything could rival the bertuzzi incident, it may of been passed, life ban i hope so.

No way was it passed, Bertuzzi broke a mans neck

[beTough54]

Wow. There is no argument about that, that is indefensible in every way.

[smashingt2312]

No way was it passed, Bertuzzi broke a mans neck

True, but this could of been a lot worse, and there was a lot more intent.

[comericatigers]

i'm sure the nhl will call it a minor flesh wound

[comericatigers]

isn't this the anniversary of the bertuzzi hit--c'mon

[smashingt2312]

isn't this the anniversary of the bertuzzi hit--c'mon

Yeah 3 years, he's still having post concussion syndromes too.

[thisisfunah]

Absolutely disgusting, terrifying, evil, tasteless...

The NHL needs to suspend him AT LEAST the remainder of the season INCLUDING the playoffs.

[dilbert]

Ugly.

I wonder if Campbell will use "He was not hurt too bad" reasoning?

[Maz]

I can't beleive that, he should without a doubt get at least 55 games if not more.... Campbell will probably give him a slap in the wrist though of course

[CoachC.]

Holy Jeez that was ridiculous.

[FunkMasterFix]

this is getting out of hand
campbell and bettman need to go!!

[ROOK33]

Just seen I say this:

1) Gone for season and playoffs
2) And 20 games into next season

Time to set an example

[BanditsRock11]

NHL is turning into a serious joke. Something has to be done about this.

[Matt]

No defense for that.

Lifetime suspension.

[SabresFan220]

Vicious, absolutely vicious. They must throw the book at him, and harder than they've ever nailed anybody. He should be suspended for the rest of the season, playoffs, and into next season if he will be allowed to play again. That is just absolutely awful, and that's the kinda shit that people who don't like hockey always talk about. It's bad for the teams, bad for the player who gets injured and the one who gets suspended, it's bad for the league, and bad for hockey.

I hate it when people who don't like hockey talk about how bad a sport it is because it's so violent. My aunt is constantly complaining when we want to watch the games at their house because the game is so "violent and pointless." I can't defend the game when shit like this can be pulled up by people who criticize hockey.

[Matt]

Simon after the game:

"I'm a little disappointed, you know, because I've always been a team guy and I feel like I let the team down. As for the incident, I don't really want to talk about it yet, uh, I want to talk with the league first."

[ckg68]

He's gotta go for good.

Please show some balls NHL.

Save your breath.

The NHL will NEVER do that.

The only way they'll show any stones is if someone dies or becomes a vegetable thanks to someone's cheap shot. And I guarantee you this...if it's to a marquee player,just watch the punishment come down in less than 24 hours.

[ckg68]

Just seen I say this:

1) Gone for season and playoffs
2) And 20 games into next season

Time to set an example

They had the opportunity to set an example with the Todd Bertuzzi incident. Last I checked,Bertuzzi's still playing. Example not set.

If they didn't do it then,right now I can't see the league saying "We :censor:ed up the last time we had this type of an incident,so we'll do a make-good and bum rush Mr. Simon".

[Rockstar]

First off I want to say this hit was not hockey and is not acceptable. Secondly, I really like Simon I love his play and that being said I still think he should get the season for this. That will be punishment enough due to the fact that The Islanders are a playoff team and my dark horse to win the East which means he will miss the opportunity to be part of something special.
More importantly I want to reiterate an argument that I swear by. If fighting was more part of the game than it is, this type of thing would have less chance of happening. The slow elimination of real goons allows players to have moments of insanity. Then this sh*t happens.. Think about it. When you’re at a light that wont freakin turn green how tempted are you to blow it? But usually you won’t for the fear of the consciences. If we are walking down the street together and someone comes up and slugs you, I’m gonna tear the guys head off. And chances are, that guy won’t hit you if we are walking together do to the chance that I will react that way because of his actions. Basic human nature. There needs to be fighting in Hockey just like there need to be military in a country. You have to protect yourself and the best way to do so is by creating respect out of fear. That will minimize these kinds of hits and all these bulls**t, from behind hits that are taking place now in the NHL

[Matt]

First off I want to say this hit was not hockey and is not acceptable. Secondly, I really like Simon I love his play and that being said I still think he should get the season for this. That will be punishment enough due to the fact that The Islanders are a playoff team and my dark horse to win the East which means he will miss the opportunity to be part of something special.
More importantly I want to reiterate an argument that I swear by. If fighting was more part of the game than it is, this type of thing would have less chance of happening. The slow elimination of real goons allows players to have moments of insanity. Then this sh*t happens.. Think about it. When you’re at a light that wont freakin turn green how tempted are you to blow it? But usually you won’t for the fear of the consciences. If we are walking down the street together and someone comes up and slugs you, I’m gonna tear the guys head off. And chances are, that guy won’t hit you if we are walking together do to the chance that I will react that way because of his actions. Basic human nature. There needs to be fighting in Hockey just like there need to be military in a country. You have to protect yourself and the best way to do so is by creating respect out of fear. That will minimize these kinds of hits and all these bulls**t, from behind hits that are taking place now in the NHL

I don't feel the fact that he's on a decent team should somehow excuse him from an otherwise stiffer penalty.

[Iggy72]

Holy cow. Colin Campbell had better do something. First Drury, then Kaberle, then this. Where's the respect for each other? There was good hitting in hockey about 15 years ago, but I don't remember the depths the NHL has reached in the past 3 years.

Pax.
Iggy72

[shawn]

Wow that was terrible.

[billsfan69]

since hollweg seems to be ok, i see simon getting 10 games. even though he should get at minimum a year, and really should be tossed out of the league.

[McD]

Rest of the year including playoffs....MINIMUM!

[Ralonzo]

he just took a mark mcgwire type swing at the head of holweg, it was disgusting! 50 games!

he literally could have killed him.

Hollweg = Kaleta

Didn't Simon do something like this in junior that got him suspended/infamous?

Meh, Simon's a veteran. $100 fine should be good, right Colin, you friggin retard?

[shotgun]

****ing scum

[24Impala]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ht6RyAI9370

[mikgaes]

Geez. Seeing stuff like that really makes me miss having Rob Ray around.

[Acoustic-Fury]

That was pretty brutal.

This league is at an all time low.


Bettman's NHL has proven to me in other instances in that what I want to happen to Simon, won't happen.

The real changes have to be made up top.

[Bay Side]

Damn!!

[bduff54]

man, this better not be a 20 gamer.

[ricogarion]

This league in its infinite wisdom does little until its too late,hopefully Mr.Holweg is in good shape and not seriously injured.Police this league properly or remove the instigator and let the players take care of business.But whatever you do Mr.Colin Campbell or the cronies you have under your desk get off your damn hands and make a friggin difference before someone dies on the ice for goodness sakes!!

[Darksyde]

Should be out for remainder of season and playoffs as well as some of next yr

[unklechucky]

No way was it passed, Bertuzzi broke a mans neck

It's been passed. The way Moore fell broke His neck, Simon intentionally took a stick swing with intent to injure.

[bduff54]

It's been passed. The way Moore fell broke His neck, Simon intentionally took a stick swing with intent to injure.

the fact that he used his stick as a weapon makes it even worse for me. Bertuzzi's was horrible but atleast it was a punch to the head and not a blatant baseball swing.

[bduff54]

you knows its bad when Sean avery thinks so.

http://www.thestar.com/Sports/article/190101

[dilbert]

First off I want to say this hit was not hockey and is not acceptable. Secondly, I really like Simon I love his play and that being said I still think he should get the season for this. That will be punishment enough due to the fact that The Islanders are a playoff team and my dark horse to win the East which means he will miss the opportunity to be part of something special.
More importantly I want to reiterate an argument that I swear by. If fighting was more part of the game than it is, this type of thing would have less chance of happening. The slow elimination of real goons allows players to have moments of insanity. Then this sh*t happens.. Think about it. When you’re at a light that wont freakin turn green how tempted are you to blow it? But usually you won’t for the fear of the consciences. If we are walking down the street together and someone comes up and slugs you, I’m gonna tear the guys head off. And chances are, that guy won’t hit you if we are walking together do to the chance that I will react that way because of his actions. Basic human nature. There needs to be fighting in Hockey just like there need to be military in a country. You have to protect yourself and the best way to do so is by creating respect out of fear. That will minimize these kinds of hits and all these bulls**t, from behind hits that are taking place now in the NHL


No there does not need to be fighting. There is little or no fighting in college or Europe and this shit does not happen.

[dilbert]

the fact that he used his stick as a weapon makes it even worse for me. Bertuzzi's was horrible but atleast it was a punch to the head and not a blatant baseball swing.


You will remember this; who was the New Jersy guy that used his stick like an axe on top of a Panthers (?) head?

This old, drunk too often brain is drawing a blank.

[bduff54]

You will remember this; who was the New Jersy guy that used his stick like an axe on top of a Panthers (?) head?

This old, drunk too often brain is drawing a blank.

sorry boss, i don't think i remember that incident.

[Papaduke]

It's been passed. The way Moore fell broke His neck, Simon intentionally took a stick swing with intent to injure.

Its all in how you fall, if you fall I suggest avoiding having 6'3" 245lb guy on your back driving your face in the ice. The injuries makes Berts hit worse.
My prediction:
Suspended rest of the season and playoffs...
Review at then end of the season for further suspension. Just like Berts hit. Only this time Simon does not get a BS out with the lockout. He probably gets the first half of next season if he returns. He may end up like McSorley though and not have a job when he gets back.

[Papaduke]

I remember Dino Ciccarelli against Luke Richardson
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeqIU9NrMB8

[dilbert]

sorry boss, i don't think i remember that incident.

Scott Neidemeyer hit Todd Worrell.

10 games: Scott Niedermayer, New Jersey Devils, for hitting Florida's Peter Worrell in the head with his stick in March 2000.
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/columns/top10/hockey_lowlights.html

[itslonganditsgood]

What is happening to this league? No wonder nobody likes hockey. This is disgusting. If the NHL doesn't ban him for life then that is criminal. Simon should have charges brought up against him.

[Papaduke]

Didn't Marty McSorley face criminal assault charges in BC after hitting Brashear?

[bduff54]

Didn't Marty McSorley face criminal assault charges in BC after hitting Brashear?

he did, i believe he got community service and stuff.

doubt that will happen here considering holweg was fine.

[MauvaisSang]

No there does not need to be fighting. There is little or no fighting in college or Europe and this shit does not happen.

Thank you! All these people seem to think that if you let players fight at will, suddenly the cheapshots will disappear. That's BS. The problem isn't a lack of fights, but a lack of respect amongst the players that has become endemic to the modern game. In the 70's the players fought more freely, but also had more respect for one another.

[Jayhawk]

I just saw it on tv.


Now I know this will never happen, but I'd take his ability away to play hockey at any level, in any country, away from him forever. You never swing a stick at anyone.

[foster]

Let's see, Briere's vicious careless use of the stick last season = 2 games, so the league will probably deem this twice as bad and give him 4...

The league is letting the game get out of hand, first they have gone back to not calling the obstruction/holding penalty allowing the slower, plodding teams back in to the game, then turning a blind eye to all these shenanigans.

Back to the future to the trap and all the crap. Way to go NHL. Keep making these great decisions and you'll end up paying Oprah to put the NHL on her channel.

[thisisfunah]

still no word from the NHL? either theyre taking forever because theyre that slow, or some serious punishment is coming... lets hope for the latter.

[bduff54]

what do you really think he will get?

i think he gets 15 games and is back for the playoffs.

[BLeonard]

He got suspended indefinitely...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=2792516

-Bill

[Scary Good]

What a joke. He needs a ban.

[bduff54]

He got suspended indefinitely...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=2792516

-Bill

yeah, i am sure they are trying to decide what to do. Come on Colin, man up and get this idiot out of the league . He is a repeat offender.

[Guy Incognito]

I couldn't believe it when I saw it. He definitely needs to be heavily punished.

[JLB]

Simon suspended indefinitely by the NHL what's that mean?

[Papaduke]

I am beginning to think the NHLPA has photos of Colin Cancer Campbell with male child prostitutes in Phuket Thailand or something similar. Pathetic response from the league.

[Acoustic-Fury]

Simon suspended indefinitely by the NHL what's that mean?

"not decided or unknown" suspension.

This also means at any time they can unsuspend him and he can play.

[ckg68]

Man,I wish we could find out the e-mail addys of the NHL and Colin Campbell. Send messages to them,saying basically "It is time for this league,and the sport of hockey as a whole,to set an example and say 'ENOUGH!' to cheap shots like Chris Simon's. He should be banned from not only the NHL,but ANY form of professional hockey(yes,even the Quebec semi-pro league that encourages fighting)."

Think if we,the fans,send enough e-mails,they'll get the point?

[joeystrass]

Suspended indefinitley means that they are waiting till his hearing which will probibly happen sometime next week

There is no way this guy should be playing anymore this season or for next season.

This incident was almost as malicious as the Bertuzzi one and he was out for like almost 2 years.

When you attack a player with a stick you are using a weapon to assult someone. He should be kicked out of hockey and have criminal charges pressed against him.

This type of BS is what is making the league so unattractive to many casual sports fans.

The league needs to be exciting not dangerous.

I think that starts with a re-vamping of the entire front office of the NHL nd Bettman and Cambell need to be the first to go!!!

[micknaboz]

Man,I wish we could find out the e-mail addys of the NHL and Colin Campbell. Send messages to them,saying basically "It is time for this league,and the sport of hockey as a whole,to set an example and say 'ENOUGH!' to cheap shots like Chris Simon's. He should be banned from not only the NHL,but ANY form of professional hockey(yes,even the Quebec semi-pro league that encourages fighting)."

Think if we,the fans,send enough e-mails,they'll get the point?

Bettman and Campbell need to go. I'm convinced thats the only way things will change. I talk to so many people who dont follow hockey because of all the shit like this , and yeah including the fighting.

I've tried finding e-mail addy's and phone #'s for the nhl, its like they're off the charts. They gotta be out there somewhere, I just cant find them. Of course if we call you'd want to block your number from caller ID, otherwise those pricks would know they were all coming from Buffalo.
I'd really love to get their personal cell or home numbers.

[JLB]

I am beginning to think the NHLPA has photos of Colin Cancer Campbell with male child prostitutes in Phuket Thailand or something similar. Pathetic response from the league.

They got something on him.

[JLB]

"not decided or unknown" suspension.

This also means at any time they can unsuspend him and he can play.

Thank you Fury!

[Guy Incognito]

Thank you Fury!

How can you possibly not know what indefinite suspension means?

[unklechucky]

Again....time to scrap the instigator penalty. What we have here is players running amuck because there is no retaliation.

[Dockwalliper]

Hollweg should have known who was on the ice.....

Isn't that the line the NHL has been useing lately?

[unklechucky]

Hollweg is ok....so I'm predicting a slap on the wrist for Simon. Mickey Mouse league.

[Mouldsie]

I too favor the lifetime ban

[D34dm4n]

is there like a way that the public or one of the boards in the NHL head office can do to get bettmqn removed from office because he is doing a bad job. i know this sounds like impeachment and i guess thats what im asking just minus the trial and everything

[BuffaloSoldier2]

Found this litte nuggent about Simon:

He was involved in an incident during the 1997-98 NHL season during a game against the Edmonton Oilers, he allegedly addressed forward Mike Grier as a "******" to Grier's face in response to comments about his Native heritage. Although the spoken words were never confirmed, he was suspended three games as a result of the incident.

Needless to say, I was shocked that such a classly individual could be involved in something like this. You'd think someone from his background would be a little more sensitive.

[ckg68]

Hollweg is ok....so I'm predicting a slap on the wrist for Simon. Mickey Mouse league.

Sad to say,I think you're going to be spot on with that take.

[The REAL Sabres]

Wow! Talk about overreaction!

Was it worse than Dino Ciccarelli on Luke Richardson? No.
Was it worse than Matt Johnson on Jeff Beukeboom? No.
Was it worse than Brad May on Steve Heinze? No.
Was it worse than Scott Niedermayer on Peter Worrell? No.
Was it worse than Marty McSorley on Donald Brashear? No.
Was it worse than Marian Hossa on Bryan Berard? No.

10 games, tops.

Any word on how Holweg is?He was on the ice at the end of the game.

[Rockstar]

Thank you! All these people seem to think that if you let players fight at will, suddenly the cheapshots will disappear. That's BS. The problem isn't a lack of fights, but a lack of respect amongst the players that has become endemic to the modern game. In the 70's the players fought more freely, but also had more respect for one another.

Respect is earned, not handed out. The correlation you just made between the frequent fights and the respect are synonymous with one in another.

I will concede that fighting isn’t the lone cure for this, but the lack of respect has evolved in younger generations, at the same time the phasing out of fighting has happened. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t want bench clearing brawls again. Although I bet that’s exactly what would have happened in the 70’s and that would have made the next guy think long and hard before he raised his stick like that.

Oh yea, one more thing. I hate European hockey. Well, I love it in the Olympics, but if the NHL became that (which the league is trying to do) I will be broken hearted beyond words

[BuffaloSoldier2]

Wow! Talk about overreaction!

Was it worse than Dino Ciccarelli on Luke Richardson? No.
Was it worse than Matt Johnson on Jeff Beukeboom? No.
Was it worse than Brad May on Steve Heinze? No.
Was it worse than Scott Niedermayer on Peter Worrell? No.
Was it worse than Marty McSorley on Donald Brashear? No.
Was it worse than Marian Hossa on Bryan Berard? No.

10 games, tops.

He was on the ice at the end of the game.

He swung his hockey stick at the guy's face. He intended to do damage and just got lucky it wasn't much worst. In what other realm of life can you swing a piece of wood at someone's face and not be in jail?

As far as the other incidents, it's debatable which are the worst. But in the NBA and all their supposed "thugs," Carmelo Anthony got 15 games for female dog slapping someone.

If the NHL is ever gonna grow past being below arena football, this crap has go to go. Right now, this league is known as a league where white guys take cheap shots at heads and hit each other with sticks. :ladyrangers:

P.S. There's nothing wrong with a good clean fight.

[г]

He should get...

http://www.superhonda.com/photopost/data/519/dr_evil_1.jpg

ONE MILLION games!

[pigpen65]

Simon got a concussion from the original hit. Makes this much more interesting. All he has to do now is say he can't remember what happened after he was boarded, get a good lawyer, and he probably won't miss any time.

http://www.newsday.com/sports/hockey/islanders/ny-spisles0310,0,2127358.story?coll=sns-business-headlines


"
Based on the match penalty for deliberately injuring Hollweg, who received two stitches in his chin, the league immediately suspended Simon indefinitely without pay. But in a twist Friday night, the NHL scheduled the disciplinary hearing Saturday in New York rather than at league headquarters in Toronto because Simon, who might have suffered a concussion when Hollweg checked him into the glass, is not allowed to fly."

[ckg68]

Makes no difference if he got a concussion(for which you can argue Hollweg should have gotten a boarding penalty). He STILL decided to go Albert Pujols on Hollweg with the stick afterwards.

And he still deserves a long suspension.

bduff's guess of 15 games sounds about right.

[г]

Simon, who might have suffered a concussion when Hollweg checked him into the glass, is not allowed to fly."

Hey guys, I'm not defending the stick swinging in any way.

The league is in a no-win here. They pretty much have to stick to precedent (someone listed suspensions doled out earlier in the thread) otherwise just watch, you may have a native player (Simon) and a native coach (Nolan) calling a long suspension racist.

[bduff54]

Wow! Talk about overreaction!

Was it worse than Dino Ciccarelli on Luke Richardson? No.
Was it worse than Matt Johnson on Jeff Beukeboom? No.
Was it worse than Brad May on Steve Heinze? No.
Was it worse than Scott Niedermayer on Peter Worrell? No.
Was it worse than Marty McSorley on Donald Brashear? No.
Was it worse than Marian Hossa on Bryan Berard? No.

10 games, tops.

He was on the ice at the end of the game.

hossa on berard? that was a complete accident, how is it not worse?

[dilbert]

Wow! Talk about overreaction!

Was it worse than Dino Ciccarelli on Luke Richardson? No.
Was it worse than Matt Johnson on Jeff Beukeboom? No.
Was it worse than Brad May on Steve Heinze? No.
Was it worse than Scott Niedermayer on Peter Worrell? No.
Was it worse than Marty McSorley on Donald Brashear? No.
Was it worse than Marian Hossa on Bryan Berard? No.

10 games, tops.

He was on the ice at the end of the game.

You are leaving some important facts out.

One, Simon has been suspended before for playing dirty. He is hardly like Niedermayer.

Second, the NHL has handed down pussy suspensions for too damn long. Previous punishments did not work. Players are not learning. Swinging your stick at a guys head is swinging your stick at him. The results are not the significant issue here. The act is.

They NHL needs to take a stand once and for all: This shit is not acceptable.

[BLeonard]

I heard that the hearing is later today... and there might even be criminal charges filed...

We'll see what actually goes down, but they can't allow players to take blatant swings at other players. I've seen the footage, and there is no doubt in my mind that Simon swung the stick with an intent to injure. That's great that he wasn't hurt as bad as he could have been, but the penalty should be on the INTENT. That kind of shot, if an inch higher/lower/etc, could kill a person.

-Bill

[JLB]

A hockey stick being swung in the direction of the head is not tolerable.

The league and if need be the legal system must deal with this severely.

[MauvaisSang]

I heard that the hearing is later today... and there might even be criminal charges filed...

We'll see what actually goes down, but they can't allow players to take blatant swings at other players. I've seen the footage, and there is no doubt in my mind that Simon swung the stick with an intent to injure. That's great that he wasn't hurt as bad as he could have been, but the penalty should be on the INTENT. That kind of shot, if an inch higher/lower/etc, could kill a person.

-Bill

Criminal charges should be filed. What he did really isn't much different from winding up and hitting someone in the throat/face with a baseball bat. At best, that's assault. I know the NHL is pretty much legalized assault anyway, but there has to be a line somewhere.

[pigpen65]

Makes no difference if he got a concussion(for which you can argue Hollweg should have gotten a boarding penalty). He STILL decided to go Albert Pujols on Hollweg with the stick afterwards.

It definitely matters if he appeals and goes to a court room. Being knocked unconscious has all sorts of strange affects on behavior and decision making.

[ckg68]

It definitely matters if he appeals and goes to a court room. Being knocked unconscious has all sorts of strange affects on behavior and decision making.

Agreed,but we haven't even gotten to the criminal charges part of the fun yet.

We're concerned about what happened on the ice-and,as I said,just because you got a concussion is no excuse for using your stick as a cut-rate baseball bat. You may be a bit loopy,but you're supposed to be in control of your stick at all times,right?

[pigpen65]

Agreed,but we haven't even gotten to the criminal charges part of the fun yet.

We're concerned about what happened on the ice-and,as I said,just because you got a concussion is no excuse for using your stick as a cut-rate baseball bat. You may be a bit loopy,but you're supposed to be in control of your stick at all times,right?

I'm not defending it at all, i just see where it's headed. He gets himself a good shifty lawyer and before you know it he'll have a lawsuit against the NHL.

[The REAL Sabres]

If the NHL is ever gonna grow past being below arena football, this crap has go to go.Ironically, something like this brings the NHL to the attention of America.

P.S. There's nothing wrong with a good clean fight.According to Gary Bettman, there is (see: instigator and second altercation rules). And three fights are even worse! Or is it five now?

[Denverbillsfan]

He should be out of the league forever.