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Bay Side
March 7th, 2007, 6:07:07 PM
Who is better?
How about Vanek vs Nash?

I came across this, and thought it would be a good question!!


Q I just made a trade deadline deal and I wanted your take on it. It's a keeper league and players under 20 games are considered keepers but don't count against your limit. We are allowed to keep 15 players per team. My team received these players: Jeff Carter, Nathan Horton, Jack Johnson, Benoit Pouliot, Sheldon Souray and Thomas Vanek. I traded away: Rick Nash and Tomas Vokoun. Also do you see Vanek being just as good as Nash?
- Naser S.


FI: First off, you signed off on a great deal, Naser. Actually, an outstanding one, almost robbery. You gave up quality but, in turn, received enormous value for the future. Barring major injury, Carter, Horton, Johnson and Pouliot will all develop into solid point-getters in the NHL--they can't miss. As for Vanek (pictured above), he's probably the prized catch in all of this. We have a huge opinion of Vanek's all-around toolbox. Not only is he turning into quite the defensive forward, he has what it takes to become a legit 50-goal-scorer. He's got a great shot, can set up plays and is the type of player that makes those around him more productive, not the other way around. He doesn't need to play with high-level players in order to produce. And he's only 23, roughly just six months older than Nash. Where we like Vanek over Nash in fantasy circles is his ability to make plays and collect assists, while the latter is primarily a shooter and may never rack up lots of helpers. Even if Vanek doesn't outperform Nash in the long-term, the others will make sure you come out ahead.
http://www.forecaster.ca/demo/hockey/extras.cgi?fantasy-inbox-mar6-2007

Sabres244
March 7th, 2007, 6:15:47 PM
As an all around player I say yes. Nash has been in bad situation in Columbus though. I'm sure when he's a FA he'll be gone as soon as possible

bduff54
March 7th, 2007, 7:35:37 PM
tough call, vanek is on the much better team thats for sure.

Ralonzo
March 7th, 2007, 10:55:50 PM
I'm a big Rick Nash fan. I caught some of Kings-Jackets after the Sabres debacle tonight and Nash is really something else. Some of the moves he pulls just make you stand up and saw wow, and he has enormous physical skill and strength. Vanek is a horse shielding people from the puck, but Nash is like a horse swatting away forecheckers like gnats. He wields his stick like it was a toothpick or something. If he wasn't buried in Columbus, he'd get all kinds of press and he'd deserve it, like he might have deserved the car at the All-Star game (I thought he was the best player on the ice, period).

Scary Good
March 7th, 2007, 11:15:13 PM
No way is he better. He doesn't play D.

skoorah720
March 7th, 2007, 11:36:02 PM
I think Vanek is more of an all around player but agreed that Nash is in a tough place in columbus...

BuffaloSoldier2
March 8th, 2007, 1:22:52 AM
Let's see here: Vanek gets to play with guys like Briere and Drury.

Nash plays on one of the worse teams in the NHL.

Put it this way: would you trade Nash for Vanek?

I love Vanek but put a 6'4" power forward like Nash on this team, there's no need for a playoffs. He would be the final missing piece.

bduff54
March 8th, 2007, 7:18:13 AM
Let's see here: Vanek gets to play with guys like Briere and Drury.

Nash plays on one of the worse teams in the NHL.

Put it this way: would you trade Nash for Vanek?

I love Vanek but put a 6'4" power forward like Nash on this team, there's no need for a playoffs. He would be the final missing piece.

yeah thats a good point. vanek for nash straight up. I know i would do it

Bay Side
March 8th, 2007, 11:46:44 AM
Maybe lets give Vanek a few years under his belt, then ask the same quetion...I think then would be the hands down winner!!

bduff54
March 8th, 2007, 11:50:49 AM
Maybe lets give Vanek a few years under his belt, then ask the same quetion...I think then would be the hands down winner!!

its possible, if nash gets out of there or gets some decent players around him he will score 50+ goals.

buffalofan19
March 8th, 2007, 11:51:28 AM
A thread like this just screams homerism. I'm not saying that Vanek can't be better than Nash eventually, but right now, anybody who is not a fan of either Buffalo or Columbus would take Nash over Vanek hands down. It isn't even close.