Helping My Son

[coastal]

I am helping my oldest son (8) with a science project. As some of you know, he goes to this very large baptist school in the area.

That choice aside, the project I am helping him with is meteorites. At the bottom of this formatted project are 5 lines with which to put "interesting information" about meteorites.

Knowing I have seen things about intelligent design in their high school curriculum, my question to all of you is this...

...should some of the "interesting information" my son provides for the rest of the programmed kiddies have anything at all to do with the K-T Exctintion event that occured 65.5 million years ago while the dinosaurs ruled the world?

Afterall, it is a science project about meteorites and that event is ascribed to being the result of a meteorite.

Is it fair of me to use my son as an experiment of sorts?

Thoughts?

[uppy]

My kid goes to a Christian school and all science theories are allowed

[Green Lantern]

Maybe it is OK depending on how you phrase it.

Like, "some scientists theorize that a meteorite killed the dinosaurs."

[CoachC.]

Coastal's son writes on line 1: "Believed by many to be the cause of the extinction of the dinosaurs over 60 million years ago."

(or however an 8 year old would write something like that).

I don't see how that could be too damaging to him, his classmates, or the school. Even if they don't teach the theory, they can't deny the fact that it is believed by many.

[Gibby]

Way to impart your child with your values, I may disagree with your opinions and your values but you appear to be a good parent who is instilling his values into your children. Let me know how it turns out.

[Matt]

I am helping my oldest son (8) with a science project. As some of you know, he goes to this very large baptist school in the area.

That choice aside, the project I am helping him with is meteorites. At the bottom of this formatted project are 5 lines with which to put "interesting information" about meteorites.

Knowing I have seen things about intelligent design in their high school curriculum, my question to all of you is this...

...should some of the "interesting information" my son provides for the rest of the programmed kiddies have anything at all to do with the K-T Exctintion event that occured 65.5 million years ago while the dinosaurs ruled the world?

Afterall, it is a science project about meteorites and that event is ascribed to being the result of a meteorite.

Is it fair of me to use my son as an experiment of sorts?

Thoughts?

Academically speaking, 99.9% of things are still considered theories. Short of things that have gone through rigorous trials and never failed, such as gravity, there is very little that has been conclusively proved or disproved in science. So when it comes to this sort of thing, it would be almost illegal I would think for an institution of learning to prohibit you and your son from putting together a science project based on whatever theory you see fit, so long as it meets the assignment criteria.

[Mouldsie]

id like to know how FACTS like the world is older than 10,000 years are considered opinions by some :D

one of my core values is that dinosaurs existed and they did so 65 million years ago.. which is a crazy long time

[Gibby]

My kid goes to a Christian school and all science theories are allowed

I went to a public school and because of the fear of lawsuits evolution and other "controversial" theories were not taught. I mean its strange that these whiny fundy bunnies bitch and moan about secular humanism being taught in the schools. I never had much of this. Sure the history texts were subpar and the building was falling apart, ah KCMSD way to put your best students in your shittiest building (though I would pit my education against that of almost any private, suburban public, or home schooled student in the MO/KAN area.), but the education was good.

[Matt]

id like to know how FACTS like the world is older than 10,000 years are considered opinions by some :D

one of my core values is that dinosaurs existed and they did so 65 million years ago.. which is a crazy long time

Speaking technically (And I am not insane -- I am not religious, and therefore I would obviously not believe that the earth is only 10,000 years old, BUT), there is a marginal degree of error in fossil and carbon dating and so, they can't absolutely prove that. Which is, I know, hogwash and mere technicality, but still. It's there.

I went to a public school and because of the fear of lawsuits evolution and other "controversial" theories were not taught. I mean its strange that these whiny fundy bunnies bitch and moan about secular humanism being taught in the schools. I never had much of this. Sure the history texts were subpar and the building was falling apart, ah KCMSD way to put your best students in your shittiest building (though I would pit my education against that of almost any private, suburban public, or home schooled student in the MO/KAN area.), but the education was good.

I find that surprising. I'm probably younger then you, but when I took Biology in high school, evolution was tought as a 'debateable theory', and students interested in alternative theories were encouraged to speak to the teacher about other ideologies.

Interestingly enough, I went to a high school that allowed you to substitute English classes for your Freshman, Sophomore and Junior year for Video Technology and Filmmaking classes -- and a school that required twice as much Global History as it did American History.

I've always found both those things to be kind of silly.

[uppy]

I went to a public school and because of the fear of lawsuits evolution and other "controversial" theories were not taught. I mean its strange that these whiny fundy bunnies bitch and moan about secular humanism being taught in the schools. I never had much of this. Sure the history texts were subpar and the building was falling apart, ah KCMSD way to put your best students in your shittiest building (though I would pit my education against that of almost any private, suburban public, or home schooled student in the MO/KAN area.), but the education was good.


Right, you went public school but not a regular one. ;)

[Green Lantern]

id like to know how FACTS like the world is older than 10,000 years are considered opinions by some :D

one of my core values is that dinosaurs existed and they did so 65 million years ago.. which is a crazy long time

REALLY stupid religious people don't understand metaphor when they read it.

[K-Gun]

Academically speaking, 99.9% of things are still considered theories. Short of things that have gone through rigorous trials and never failed, such as gravity, there is very little that has been conclusively proved or disproved in science. So when it comes to this sort of thing, it would be almost illegal I would think for an institution of learning to prohibit you and your son from putting together a science project based on whatever theory you see fit, so long as it meets the assignment criteria.

Nobody knows what gravity is. In fact, the new leading theory is that gravity is leaking into at least 4 other universes, which explains its relative weakness compared to the other forces. The new theory posits a mulitverse instead of a universe. But that doesn't really have anything to do with meteorites or dinosaurs.

[coastal]

Yo.

Like "Member Info" should have a blue background.

It is too prominent.

[dilbert]

I don't see how stating that a meteorite caused the extinction of the dinosaur's could cause a problem, at least not logically thinking.

Of course, you do live in Florida.

[Gibby]

I don't see how stating that a meteorite caused the extinction of the dinosaur's could cause a problem, at least not logically thinking.

Of course, you do live in Florida.

Dil you make a good point, but then again I think its possible that the dinosaurs played a major role in their own extinction and here is my proof. http://www.tv.com/dinosaurs/changing-nature/episode/62930/recap.html

[Gibby]

Hi ya eric, good to see you lurking round these parts.

[uppy]

I think Coastal is just looking for a way to thumb his nose at the school

through his son...lol It wont work....like I said my kid goes to Christian school

and thay accept all science theories.

[coastal]

I just learned that meteors contain organic matter like amino acids.

I wonder if this would help.

[Gibby]

Coastal much like humans now, dinosaurs caused there own extinction. The WESAYSO Corp killed a weed eating mite that occupied a swamp they built to build a wax fruit factory. With the loss of the mite weeds soon grew unchecked and so to stop them Earl and his coworkers tell Richfield, owner of WESAYSO that if they can use weed killer and wipe out the weeds then they will be no problem. So they do so and end up killing all the trees and plants including the weeds. With the vegetation gone there is no food and so to bring back food they decide they need rain. To make it rain they burned tires and eventually created a fire so great it blotted out the sun. This caused snow and global cooling. It was dinosaurs and thats the story according to the Algoretops.

[coastal]

Let's see how they cope with poetry...


"What am I myself but one of your meteors?"

Walt Whitman

[Buffal0B1LLs_fan]

The kid's eight?

Depends on who's idea it is.

Let him put "meteors are cool".

[shiva2999]

REALLY stupid religious people don't understand metaphor when they read it.

And not so stupid religious people pretend they don't understand metaphor when they read it.

[gilchristfan]

I am helping my oldest son (8) with a science project. As some of you know, he goes to this very large baptist school in the area.

That choice aside, the project I am helping him with is meteorites. At the bottom of this formatted project are 5 lines with which to put "interesting information" about meteorites.

Knowing I have seen things about intelligent design in their high school curriculum, my question to all of you is this...

...should some of the "interesting information" my son provides for the rest of the programmed kiddies have anything at all to do with the K-T Exctintion event that occured 65.5 million years ago while the dinosaurs ruled the world?

Afterall, it is a science project about meteorites and that event is ascribed to being the result of a meteorite.

Is it fair of me to use my son as an experiment of sorts?

Thoughts?

Its sad that you have to ask the question.


Too late to change the subject of the project?

My oldest did this one as a first grader:

http://www.tornadoproject.com/graphics/workmod2rb.jpg



http://www.tornadoproject.com/cellar/workshop.htm

(sorry, I don't have a pic on the computer of him and his project)

It kicked ass.

Of course, he blamed the formation of a tornado on homosexuality and declining church attendance, so it wasn't really controversial

[Gibby]

Its sad that you have to ask the question.


Too late to change the subject of the project?

My oldest did this one as a first grader:

http://www.tornadoproject.com/graphics/workmod2rb.jpg



http://www.tornadoproject.com/cellar/workshop.htm

(sorry, I don't have a pic on the computer of him and his project)

It kicked ass.

Of course, he blamed the formation of a tornado on homosexuality and declining church attendance, so it wasn't really controversial

kansas public schools? Jerry Johnson and Fred Phelps, OH BROTHER. :clamdigger:

[Green Lantern]

Of course, he blamed the formation of a tornado on homosexuality and declining church attendance, so it wasn't really controversial

I thought trailer parks caused tornadoes.

Hmmm, goes to show you what a SUNY education is worth.

[gilchristfan]

kansas public schools? Jerry Johnson and Fred Phelps, OH BROTHER. :clamdigger:

Fred's grand daughter goes to our kids' school. 2 years ago, she did an excellent project on the cause of the Columbia crash. She had a powerpoint presentation, a piece of foam like the insulation on the shuttle, and a very good explanation of what went wrong, (how it came off, where it failed, the logical progression of the failure, etc). It was really first rate.

It was strange seeing it, considering they used to carry signs blaming it on gays.

[Gibby]

I thought trailer parks caused tornadoes.

Hmmm, goes to show you what a SUNY education is worth.

and I felt cheated by CMSU. :D

[Gibby]

Fred's grand daughter goes to our kids' school. 2 years ago, she did an excellent project on the cause of the Columbia crash. She had a powerpoint presentation, a piece of foam like the insulation on the shuttle, and a very good explanation of what went wrong, (how it came off, where it failed, the logical progression of the failure, etc). It was really first rate.

It was strange seeing it, considering they used to carry signs blaming it on gays.

I have actually met Freddy's niece and she hates the old geezer. Is it true that he used to be sane?

[gilchristfan]

I have actually met Freddy's niece and she hates the old geezer. Is it true that he used to be sane?

Supposedly, he was always out there. ( he was disbarred before I became a lawyer). But he was also intelligent. One federal judge once told me that he was the smartest lawyer to come before him. He kicked ass in civil rights cases.

[uppy]

And not so stupid religious people pretend they don't understand metaphor when they read it.

........

[deconstruction]

I am helping my oldest son (8) with a science project. As some of you know, he goes to this very large baptist school in the area.

That choice aside, the project I am helping him with is meteorites. At the bottom of this formatted project are 5 lines with which to put "interesting information" about meteorites.

Knowing I have seen things about intelligent design in their high school curriculum, my question to all of you is this...

...should some of the "interesting information" my son provides for the rest of the programmed kiddies have anything at all to do with the K-T Exctintion event that occured 65.5 million years ago while the dinosaurs ruled the world?

Afterall, it is a science project about meteorites and that event is ascribed to being the result of a meteorite.

Is it fair of me to use my son as an experiment of sorts?

Thoughts?


Just call the dinosaurs Jesus horsies, and all will be well.

[B-loCrew]

The project should absolutely contain that information, it has the science to back it up so screw the Baptists. Maybe he could debate evolution against intelligent design.

i watched a "scholar" come into our university and try and debate intelligent design with one of our senior geologist professors and is was disastrous for the young intelligent design man, i almost felt bad for him.

[35Pete]

Coastal.

I'd write about the K-T event. And definitely mention the timeline. The little kiddies probably won't get de-programmed over one incongruent fact with creation and the stewards of baptism know it. Now if it caused the kids to start crying and say "millions of years ago"??? I thought God created the universe 6,000 years ago!!!, and they all start flipping out and kicking the teachers then...well, I'd do witness protection program for you and your son.

Because more than a few of these bots are going to want to smite thee.

These stewards don't mess around. There's money and control involved here. They may not fight the control of your son but they'll be damned if you keep their hooks of the other impressionables.

In any event be careful. This could be dangerous.

[EricStratton]

No matter what you do the kid will still grow up to hate you and possibly smother you in your sleep after a night of hard drinking.

I guess my point is do whatever you want on the project and if possible make a pass at the science teacher.

[uppy]

I like it...lol

[shiva2999]

No matter what you do the kid will still grow up to hate you and possibly smother you in your sleep after a night of hard drinking.


Fatherhood, isn't it wonderful?

[EricStratton]

Fatherhood, isn't it wonderful?


My kid has already tried it twice. Lucky for me he's still pretty small.

[rob on the job]

...should some of the "interesting information" my son provides for the rest of the programmed kiddies have anything at all to do with the K-T Exctintion event that occured 65.5 million years ago while the dinosaurs ruled the world?

Afterall, it is a science project about meteorites and that event is ascribed to being the result of a meteorite. ...

Coastal, my friend --

it would be a lot more impressive if you ditched the dinosaur angle and showed how meteorites from Krypton can rob Superman of his powers, or even kill him outright.