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starfirestar
February 23rd, 2007, 5:24:41 PM
I have all the faith in the world in Darcy Regier. He has put together a team with a ton of character, heart, and skill. But, losing a guy like Chris Drury hurts. He does so much so well. Not only can he score goals, but he is a shot blocker, an penalty killer, a faceoff specialist. He is the leader and captain of the team. He will be tough to replace.

If Drury is out for the rest of the season and the playoffs, I think Regier has to make a big splash at the deadline. No Bertuzzi. No Guerin. No Tkachuk. I would love to seem them make a play for Joe Sakic. Colorado is 9 points away from a playoff spot. They don't have a goaltender. Even if they did make the playoffs, if you don't have solid goaltending, you're not going to win the cup.

Joe Sakic is a leader, a great player, and would be a welcome addition to the Sabres locker room. He is really the only guy out there who could replace a Drury for a cup run. If Sakic wants to play it out with Colorado, then forget it. He will be an Av forever. But, if Sakic wants to move out and play in the playoffs, he would be the perfect fit here. Remember Colorado fans, he would most likely resign with you guys in the offseason. Why not let the guy get a run at the cup?

Carl J. Ironsides
February 23rd, 2007, 5:26:55 PM
Interesting thoughts, but we have to wait and see how long Drury will be out. If it's revealed in the next couple days prior to the deadline that Chris is done, we'd maybe look into something like this.

In another thread, I brought up the idea of possibly acquiring Ryan Smyth. Though not as good as Drury, Smyth is damn close, and he's the same kind of player. He'll be a UFA at the end of the season, and rumors say Edmonton is dangling him out there.

TRIPLE P
February 23rd, 2007, 5:27:26 PM
You have to factor $$$ into every trade....

MauvaisSang
February 23rd, 2007, 5:46:13 PM
Oh c'mon... this is one of the more ridiculous ones yet...

starfirestar
February 23rd, 2007, 6:37:03 PM
How is it ridiculous? Joe Sakic is an UFA at the years end, most of his salary his already paid for, and is nearing towards the end of his career. He's 36 years old and is still piling up points on a mediocre Colorado team. I think it would be bigheaded of Colorado to keep Sakic at the deadline and not move him to a cup contender. Until Colorado gets a goaltender, they will not be in cup contention this year. Next year is a different story. So whats the big deal? They can deal Sakic now, get a first round pick and a guy like Kotalik, and then resign Sakic in the offseason. It's a win win for both parties. Sakic gets a chance to win another cup with Buffalo and Colorado gets him back in the offseason anyways.

Thumper
February 23rd, 2007, 6:46:21 PM
"Most of his salary is already payed for" doesn't mean anything. Its his salary total for 1 season that gets added onto the payroll number. So guess what? Kotalik and a first rounder ain't even close for getting a guy like Sakic in here. You're about 4 million off the mark.

starfirestar
February 23rd, 2007, 7:02:52 PM
Well than kinda sucks. I don't see how it's fair to count the salary that Colorado has been paying him towards our cap. If thats the case then Sakic won't be a Sabre.

unklechucky
February 23rd, 2007, 7:07:54 PM
You're crazy to think it. We are stuck in even dollar deals.

ricogarion
February 23rd, 2007, 7:08:08 PM
You guys are all cracked if you could add a high character player of the pedigree of Joe Sakic you leap at the opportunity,if you need to swap salaries that shouldn't be a deterrent.Folks will have to figure out ways to work around the cap roadblocks.

Thumper
February 23rd, 2007, 7:18:04 PM
Well than kinda sucks. I don't see how it's fair to count the salary that Colorado has been paying him towards our cap. If thats the case then Sakic won't be a Sabre.

How is it not fair? Sakic is a player that gets payed around 6 million. Therefore, he's a 6 million dollar player. Just because he's already been payed 5 million of his salary doesn't transform him into the type of player that makes 1 million per season. He's still a 6 million dollar player.

jlpubarch
February 23rd, 2007, 7:19:43 PM
Drury is the A-#1 bad ass mofo.

He wanted to come back for the 3rd period for god's sake.

Drury will be back in less than 2 weeks IMO.

noocllez
February 23rd, 2007, 7:25:27 PM
Drury is the A-#1 bad ass mofo.

He wanted to come back for the 3rd period for god's sake.

Drury will be back in less than 2 weeks IMO.

hopefully man... i really ***in hope so =(

ricogarion
February 23rd, 2007, 7:33:43 PM
If its a true concussion for Chris Drury he might be out for a while so the repercussions of that hit by Neil will be felt by the Sabres till his return.

THATHURMANATOR
February 23rd, 2007, 8:17:10 PM
Drury will be back quickly.

THATHURMANATOR
February 23rd, 2007, 8:17:48 PM
Some guys can come back from these faster than others. Look at Umberger. He only missed 1 game.

Carl J. Ironsides
February 23rd, 2007, 8:18:51 PM
Some guys can come back from these faster than others. Look at Umberger. He only missed 1 game.

Good point. I think the fact that Dru skated off the ice OK and wanted to return is a decent enough sign. Plus, Lindy's news conference after the game didn't exactly sound grim in regards to Chris' health.

THATHURMANATOR
February 23rd, 2007, 8:25:55 PM
Connolly had to be pretty much be carried off and looked like he was dead laying there on the ice. Drury did seem dazed a bit but didn't look half as bad and he did walk off by himself.

Denverbillsfan
February 23rd, 2007, 8:51:45 PM
Sakic will not leave the Avs...simple as that.

shotgun
February 23rd, 2007, 8:58:55 PM
wate intill br11 gets his paws on this thread

BanditsRock11
February 23rd, 2007, 9:09:26 PM
wate intill br11 gets his paws on this thread

Exactly.


This is the 2nd stupidest thread I've ever read on here. The first was the first thread suggesting Sakic. You people are completly stupid sometimes, seriously. Why the hell would they get rid of the heart and soul of the franchise for the last 12+ years now, especially when they are only 9 points out???? No goalie? Are you serious? Budja is fine, hes not the problem, the problem is they arent deep enough to over come the injuries they've had all season, especially on defense. Budja is a very solid goalie, and im content with him being the starting goalie for now.

Sakic isnt going anywhere, the AVS arent giving up on the season, and whoever started this thread, is stuck in fantasy hockey and video game manager mode, thats for sure.

SabresBlueGold
February 23rd, 2007, 10:27:01 PM
Who the hell is Budja and what the hell are you talking about with this thread business? First, it's Budaj. If you love the guy so much, at least get his name right. Second, this is the Sakic thread. Let me be the first to welcome you to the Sakic thread.

Budaj is not the answer for the Avs and I'm sure they recognize that. They are not a playoff team this year and would be wise to consider all offers for Sakic, since as it has been pointed out before, he's going to be back with them as a free-agent signing next year anyway. Why not let the guy get some playoff work, possibly a cup, and bolster your roster via a trade for one more run with Sakic next year? Seems pretty logical to me. Then again, I don't know who this Budja guy is, so maybe they're hiding a secret weapon for one final push this year.

starfirestar
February 23rd, 2007, 11:19:46 PM
You must have all the answers "BanditsRock". I'm sure the Avs will do great in the playoffs with their secret weapon in net there(lol). It does make sense in a way where Colorado could always resign Sakic in the offseason. The dollars don't make sense, which I realize. But "banditsRock" has all the answers I guess. I'm stuck in video hockey manager mode like he said. Even though the only way he tries to prove his point is saying how stupid my point is.

GG8407
February 24th, 2007, 12:25:39 AM
Not happening. Like BR11 said he means too much to that franchise and trading away the face of your team is a huge mistake.

unklechucky
February 24th, 2007, 11:29:08 AM
You guys are all cracked if you could add a high character player of the pedigree of Joe Sakic you leap at the opportunity,if you need to swap salaries that shouldn't be a deterrent.Folks will have to figure out ways to work around the cap roadblocks.

You'd have to sell off a sizeable chunk of your roster just to get the $$$ to swap out. This team is the sum of its parts and we are 1st in the league, don't sell off the team for someone past his prime.

Thumper
February 24th, 2007, 5:47:15 PM
Not happening. Like BR11 said he means too much to that franchise and trading away the face of your team is a huge mistake.

Did Gretzky get traded? Hasek? Messier? Bourque?

Peca was the face of the Sabres and he got traded too. That wasn't a mistake.

The REAL Sabres
February 24th, 2007, 5:58:16 PM
So we're playing "Pick the superstar's name out of a hat rumors" this year for the trading deadline?

dilbert
February 24th, 2007, 6:00:29 PM
What is Sakic's salary?

Carl J. Ironsides
February 24th, 2007, 6:04:10 PM
What is Sakic's salary?

$5.7 million. Ryan Smyth, whom I'd like to get if Drury's gone for the year somehow, is a much more cost feasible $3.5 million.

I'd only want Smyth if it's announced Drury's out for the year by Tuesday, obviously. Chris will be back, but it's my personal backup plan nonetheless.

BanditsRock11
February 24th, 2007, 7:07:12 PM
Peca was the face of the Sabres and he got traded too. That wasn't a mistake.


Peca couldnt sharpen Sakics skates. Please dont lump them in the same categorey.

Thumper
February 24th, 2007, 7:14:56 PM
Peca couldnt sharpen Sakics skates. Please dont lump them in the same categorey.

You completely missed the point of the post, chippy.

GG8407
February 24th, 2007, 7:19:24 PM
Did Gretzky get traded? Hasek? Messier? Bourque?

Peca was the face of the Sabres and he got traded too. That wasn't a mistake.
I'm not saying trading away the most important player in your franchise has never happened. I'm saying doing so is a bad decision on the part of the GM. Gretzky is one example.

Thumper
February 24th, 2007, 7:24:50 PM
I'm not saying trading away the most important player in your franchise has never happened. I'm saying doing so is a bad decision on the part of the GM. Gretzky is one example.

But it isn't always a bad decision. It won't happen, but IF the Av's traded Sakic and got a 2nd round pick for him, then re-signed him in the offseason, how is that a bad move? That 2nd rounder the obtained could be the next Svatos.

starfirestar
February 24th, 2007, 10:02:44 PM
Don't be upset with Banditsrocks. He has all the right answers remember(I state that with an ample sense of sarcasm). Anyways, I like the idea of Ryan Smyth. But, he would cost more than Sakic in a trade. I think he's in his early 30's, where as Sakic is in his mid to late 30's. You can't compare the Gretzky trade to a Sakic trade. Wayne Gretzky was much younger when he was dealt to the LA Kings. Sure Sakic is still the franchise. But he's also 36 years old, going to be 37 next season. Thats a totally different scenario right there. Yes his better days are behind him, but he could still be a huge asset to a team like Buffalo. Sure it's a pipe dream. But, no player in this league is untouchable. So it's entirely possible Sakic could be dealt. It's also entirely possible that he couldn't be as well. People, Sakic will resign with Colorado in the offseason! He won't be gone forever.

MauvaisSang
February 24th, 2007, 10:05:11 PM
Sakic could be traded, but sure as hell won't be to Buffalo.

hckynight
February 24th, 2007, 10:13:06 PM
i know that darcy likes to wait for the perfect trade but this is becoming crazy. we need some help just for depth at least right now. but money does hold everthing up.

BanditsRock11
February 25th, 2007, 11:05:45 PM
Watching the AVS/Ducks game the play by play guys just reported any rumors of Sakic being traded are ludacris, and its not going to happen. They said he will finish his career where he started and not leave...per atlitude broadcast of the game.

Sabres244
February 25th, 2007, 11:21:40 PM
yea, end the pipe dream guys

ricogarion
February 26th, 2007, 12:59:03 AM
It didn't hurt to fantasize.