Bush spills the beans at today's press conference

[shiva2999]

"Sometimes money trumps peace".

Case closed.

[nehemiah]

holy crap.

someone needs to use that title for a history book b/c truer words have never been spoken.

[Green Lantern]

Is that a third reason why we fight that I can add to my "War" thread then?

[Gibby]

"Sometimes money trumps peace".

Case closed.

Have a link? I'm not saying I don't believe you, but I'd like to see this for myself. Not that it would surprise me if he did say it, I mean after all he did tell aides do not throw the constitution in his face because its just a goddamned piece of paper but just for authentication purposes do ya have a link of this nasty lil POS saying this.

[shiva2999]

Also, can someone PLEASE explain to Dubya what an IED is?

He keeps blathering on about Iran supplying mortars and armor piercing rockets to the insurgents in Iraq and keeps calling them IEDs.

IEDs are Improvised Explosive Devices you moron.

Not weapons manufactured in a ****ing weapons factory.

[shiva2999]

Have a link? I'm not saying I don't believe you, but I'd like to see this for myself. Not that it would surprise me if he did say it, I mean after all he did tell aides do not throw the constitution in his face because its just a goddamned piece of paper but just for authentication purposes do ya have a link of this nasty lil POS saying this.

Gibby, I don't have a link because the presser just ended at noon.

I watched the whole thing.

I'm sure a transcript and video will be available later.

[Gibby]

Also, can someone PLEASE explain to Dubya what an IED is?

He keeps blathering on about Iran supplying mortars and armor piercing rockets to the insurgents in Iraq and keeps calling them IEDs.

IEDs are Improvised Explosive Devices you moron.

Not weapons manufactured in a ****ing weapons factory.

you have to forgive the boy shiva, he has never been in a combat situation in his life and most of his TXAFNG duty consisted of raiding liquor stores therefore he is a qualified expert.

[Victor7]

Wow ..... what an a$$hole

[TheGoodShepherd]

LOL at dubya.

[Lucidvizion]

Also, can someone PLEASE explain to Dubya what an IED is?

He keeps blathering on about Iran supplying mortars and armor piercing rockets to the insurgents in Iraq and keeps calling them IEDs.

IEDs are Improvised Explosive Devices you moron.

Not weapons manufactured in a ****ing weapons factory.

The explosive itself may be manufactured at a factory.

The detonator and containers are improvised.

Then again I don't know what context is he's using the words in.

[Green Lantern]

Have a link? I'm not saying I don't believe you, but I'd like to see this for myself. Not that it would surprise me if he did say it, I mean after all he did tell aides do not throw the constitution in his face because its just a goddamned piece of paper but just for authentication purposes do ya have a link of this nasty lil POS saying this.

Does that make you decon or phantom? I forget which is which.

[Maz]

They've been reporting the last week that they have found a part that is being used in many of the IED's in Iraq that are only made in Iran, as well as Iraq stumbling into new anti-air weapons. We all dubyba is a horrible speaker but I don't think HE even knew what he was saying...

[JLB]

Does that make you decon or phantom? I forget which is which.

No it's Gibby I think lol.

[JLB]

They've been reporting the last week that they have found a part that is being used in many of the IED's in Iraq that are only made in Iran, as well as Iraq stumbling into new anti-air weapons. We all dubyba is a horrible speaker but I don't think HE even knew what he was saying...

I wanna believe that he knew.

[Green Lantern]

They've been reporting the last week that they have found a part that is being used in many of the IED's in Iraq that are only made in Iran, as well as Iraq stumbling into new anti-air weapons. We all dubyba is a horrible speaker but I don't think HE even knew what he was saying...

And the DNA sequencing of the anthrax that was mailed out after 9/11 to national reporters was a 100% match for the US strain that was grown in a lab in, where, Kentucky?

The US government was stupid enough to mail anthrax to reporters? AND stupid enough to use something from it's own stores?

[Green Lantern]

No it's Gibby I think lol.

Which one's gibby? Decon or Phantom?

[shiva2999]

And the DNA sequencing of the anthrax that was mailed out after 9/11 to national reporters was a 100% match for the US strain that was grown in a lab in, where, Kentucky?

The US government was stupid enough to mail anthrax to reporters? AND stupid enough to use something from it's own stores?

Why not?

Who's going to bust them for it? The FBI?

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!

[shiva2999]

Which one's gibby? Decon or Phantom?

Mr Pantyhose

[Maz]

And the DNA sequencing of the anthrax that was mailed out after 9/11 to national reporters was a 100% match for the US strain that was grown in a lab in, where, Kentucky?

The US government was stupid enough to mail anthrax to reporters? AND stupid enough to use something from it's own stores?

I'm not really seeing the connection here, sorry?

[Green Lantern]

I'm not really seeing the connection here, sorry?

Why not?

Who's going to bust them for it? The FBI?

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!

Iran voluntarily marks its weaponry via an international agreement. People here are saying that the Iranians are underhanded enough to shuttle weaponry into Iraq and stupid enough to not etch the markings off them before sending them to blow up Americans.

[Green Lantern]

Mr Pantyhose

Decon.

[Maz]

oh yeah, I don't think Iran is REALLY that worried about hiding their ambitions against the West anyways. It gives them leverage in their region and a large amount of credibility to some.

[shiva2999]

Link's up.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/02/20070214-2.html

THE PRESIDENT: If that's the case, sit down. Next question. (Laughter.)

Q A lot of our allies in Europe do a lot of business with Iran, so I wonder what your thoughts are about how you further tighten the financial pressure on Iran, in particular, if it also means economic pain for a lot of our allies?

THE PRESIDENT: It's an interesting question. One of the problems -- not specifically on this issue, just in general -- let's put it this way, money trumps peace, sometimes. In other words, commercial interests are very powerful interests throughout the world. And part of the issue in convincing people to put sanctions on a specific country is to convince them that it's in the world's interest that they forgo their own financial interest.

[shiva2999]

Decon.

http://westdunn.ca/images/PhantomPkgSM.jpg

[shiva2999]

Iran voluntarily marks its weaponry via an international agreement. People here are saying that the Iranians are underhanded enough to shuttle weaponry into Iraq and stupid enough to not etch the markings off them before sending them to blow up Americans.

No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of Americans.

[uppy]

Who's money is he talking about france,germany ?

[uppy]

No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of Americans.

Two days of America bashing....well done !

Keep up the good work.

[Green Lantern]

http://westdunn.ca/images/PhantomPkgSM.jpg

How exactly does one change their name? I don't like the dolphins anymore.

[uppy]

How exactly does one change their name? I don't like the dolphins anymore.


Go to the range shop menu

[shiva2999]

How exactly does one change their name? I don't like the dolphins anymore.

I think you can buy a new one at the Range store.

I gave chimp the chips for his last transformation.

If you don't have enough, tell me how many you need and I'll give them to you.

[Gibby]

Does that make you decon or phantom? I forget which is which.

Which one's gibby? Decon or Phantom?

well aqua shiva answered your question, yes he used insults to do so, but he answered it
Mr Pantyhose

:upyours: shiva :D, seriously though he is correct. I am phantom.

[shiva2999]

well aqua shiva answered your question, yes he used insults to do so, but he answered it


:upyours: shiva :D, seriously though he is correct. I am phantom.

You DO realize I'm a Finn, don't you, you Russian bastard?

[nehemiah]

i'll change your name for ya, aquaman.

just PM me with a new selection.

[gilchristfan]

Link's up.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/02/20070214-2.html

THE PRESIDENT: If that's the case, sit down. Next question. (Laughter.)

Q A lot of our allies in Europe do a lot of business with Iran, so I wonder what your thoughts are about how you further tighten the financial pressure on Iran, in particular, if it also means economic pain for a lot of our allies?

THE PRESIDENT: It's an interesting question. One of the problems -- not specifically on this issue, just in general -- let's put it this way, money trumps peace, sometimes. In other words, commercial interests are very powerful interests throughout the world. And part of the issue in convincing people to put sanctions on a specific country is to convince them that it's in the world's interest that they forgo their own financial interest.

Do you think you might be misinterpreting what he said the wrong way?


Read the bolded part again.

What I think he means is that countries are often reluctant to advocate sanctions against another country if they have strong economic ties.

I think he's trying to point out that the "money trumps peace" is a hurdle that must be overcome when attempting to get a country sanctioned.


I could be wrong, but that's how I interpret it, anyways.

[JLB]

I think you can buy a new one at the Range store.

I gave chimp the chips for his last transformation.

If you don't have enough, tell me how many you need and I'll give them to you.

I'll give em to you Aqua just change your name to Mr. Buffalo Bill!!

[Meathead]

i always thought you were named after the superhero

you bastard!

[Meathead]

arent you taking the dumbass' words out of context shiva

id like nothing more than to hammer on him but i think he was talking about their money trumping peace not ours

[JLB]

i always thought you were named after the superhero

you bastard!

LOL Dolphin Man would have been better!

[shiva2999]

Do you think you might be misinterpreting what he said the wrong way?


Read the bolded part again.

What I think he means is that countries are often reluctant to advocate sanctions against another country if they have strong economic ties.

I think he's trying to point out that the "money trumps peace" is a hurdle that must be overcome when attempting to get a country sanctioned.


I could be wrong, but that's how I interpret it, anyways.

Well of course you do, cuz you're a ****ing goody two shoes. :D

He said, in regard to the usual suspects, that "money trumps PEACE, sometimes".

Which is the same thing as saying "war for financial and commercial considerations is occasionally justified".

Oh right, he was referring to old world scumbags like Germany and France.

America would NEVER go to war for anything less than the most honorable reasons.

Sure.

[shiva2999]

arent you taking the dumbass' words out of context shiva

id like nothing more than to hammer on him but i think he was talking about their money trumping peace not ours

I'll never get over dumbass American chauvinism.

"Oh, but he was talking about other guys. What possible relevance could it have to do with us?"

[Green Lantern]

I'll give em to you Aqua just change your name to Mr. Buffalo Bill!!

i'll change your name for ya, aquaman.

just PM me with a new selection.

I think you can buy a new one at the Range store.

I gave chimp the chips for his last transformation.

If you don't have enough, tell me how many you need and I'll give them to you.

I was thinking, Jetsy, but I pretty sure that one is already taken.

[JLB]

I was thinking, Jetsy, but I pretty sure that one is already taken.

You could be Jetsyman!

[shiva2999]

Do you think you might be misinterpreting what he said the wrong way?


BTW, I hope this was an intentional Bushism.

[gilchristfan]

Well of course you do, cuz you're a ****ing goody two shoes. :D

He said, in regard to the usual suspects, that "money trumps PEACE, sometimes".

Which is the same thing as saying "war for financial and commercial considerations is occasionally justified".

Oh right, he was referring to old world scumbags like Germany and France.

America would NEVER go to war for anything less than the most honorable reasons.

Sure.

Oh, I never said he didn't THINK that way, I was just surprised he'd come out and admit it.

It'd be like a judge admitting to ex parte communications. It happens all the time, some think nothing of it, but they'll never admit it.

[shiva2999]

Oh, I never said he didn't THINK that way, I was just surprised he'd come out and admit it.

It'd be like a judge admitting to ex parte communications. It happens all the time, some think nothing of it, but they'll never admit it.

DU caught it and has it on the front page.

It was sort of a strange moment, he'd been tossed a softball about imposing sanctions and he couldn't resist a shot so he started with "Money trumps..." and then he seemed to hesitate like he realized he was being forced into saying something he didn't want to say so he looked for a buzzwod and grabbed "...uhh, peace, sometimes".

Once we get the video you'll see.