Pathetic

[bduff54]

I am really dissapointed how some of you guys are just ripping me after tonights game. Why can't you just talk reasonably about the game. The leafs won that game lastnight and that's it, they are still nowhere near the calibre of the sabres and i will be the first to admit it. when i say peters got destroyed everybody goes nuts. guys, the guy sucks, get rid of him.

when the sabres dominate nobody has a problem when i start a thread saying this team might be the best i have seen since the red wings. But as soon as they lose to the leafs you guys show your true colors.

not all of you, just a select few.

pathetic.

[unklechucky]

You are lurking in enemy territory, as a fan of the enemy. You can't complain. And to start a thread like this you are just asking for more abuse.

[HURLS]

I agree with chucky, tho I'd never rip u bduff, as I know how it is being a fan of 2 teams everyone hates.

[bduff54]

whatever, its disgusting. it started with tubist ripping the canadian national anthem and basically disrespecting canada. The Sabres played horrible in the 2nd period but all anyone could do is blame the refs for the trip on spacek. It's just so annoying, why can't anyone ever admit that the sabres played poorly and the opposition deserved the win? I know the leafs suck and it's not about them.

[Bay Side]

whatever, its disgusting. it started with tubist ripping the canadian national anthem and basically disrespecting canada. The Sabres played horrible in the 2nd period but all anyone could do is blame the refs for the trip on spacek. It's just so annoying, why can't anyone ever admit that the sabres played poorly and the opposition deserved the win? I know the leafs suck and it's not about them.

Dude...Just quit while your ahead.....Go find a queefs board or something!!

[anEinherjer]

Hmm... Queefs fan finds Sabres fans unwelcoming. Film at 11.

We need a :cry me a ****ing river: icon.

[bduff54]

Hmm... Queefs fan finds Sabres fans unwelcoming. Film at 11.

We need a :cry me a ****ing river: icon.

do it buddy, go create one. maybe i am just a nice guy i guess, i didn't know hockey was supposed to be this serious. i just like to discuss the games.

[TRIPLE P]

Holy crap..... you're bitching because people pointed out bad calls in a bad call thread you started?

And what do you expect.....when the Bills play the Fins or the Jets I crap on the Fins and Jets fans.....

Listen closely... I hate the Leafs....hate them.....hate there fans who mock our team in our building, hate thier captain, hate Darcy Tucker.....hate everything about them.....

if you're looking for a leafs handjob thread you're clearly posting on the wrong message board.

What are you looking for..... a bunch of Sabres fans to give props to a hated rival? Get Real.

[HURLS]

Jesus, give him a ****ing break. He's a Moderator for some reason, just 'cuz he's a Leaf Fan doesn't make him any less of a person. He just roots for an inferior team that was better tonight.

[unklechucky]

Holy crap..... you're bitching because people pointed out bad calls in a bad call thread you started?

And what do you expect.....when the Bills play the Fins or the Jets I crap on the Fins and Jets fans.....

Listen closely... I hate the Leafs....hate them.....hate there fans who mock our team in our building, hate thier captain, hate Darcy Tucker.....hate everything about them.....

if you're looking for a leafs handjob thread you're clearly posting on the wrong message board.

What are you looking for..... a bunch of Sabres fans to give props to a hated rival? Get Real.

Dead on. If you're gonna bang the Leafs drum, expect to get creamed.

[TRIPLE P]

Jesus, give him a ****ing break. He's a Moderator for some reason, just 'cuz he's a Leaf Fan doesn't make him any less of a person. He just roots for an inferior team that was better tonight.

Nobody said he was less of a person.....but why would he expect praise for the leafs here?

Because he says nice things about the Sabres? So what? He doesn't have to.

[bduff54]

Nobody said he was less of a person.....but why would he expect praise for the leafs here?

Because he says nice things about the Sabres? So what? He doesn't have to.

why do you take it so seriously? you don't even really follow the league anyway, i can tell from your freaking over the max interference call. In order to rip referee's you have to know the rules first. it is clear you don't. In that situation both players are supposed to play the puck, instead max took the body before either of them had touched the puck, it was clear as day in the new NHL.

[TRIPLE P]

why do you take it so seriously? you don't even really follow the league anyway, i can tell from your freaking over the max interference call. In order to rip referee's you have to know the rules first. it is clear you don't. In that situation both players are supposed to play the puck, instead max took the body before either of them had touched the puck, it was clear as day in the new NHL.


Stajan interfered with Max on his root to retreive a slow pass from Roy.

[anEinherjer]

Shut up WXP, you are just st00pid.

:rolleyes:

Like Rick and Jim said, the only reason Max got the call was because that girl Stajan fell down.

[anEinherjer]

You'd think daddy bduff would understand the hatred given he's also (allegedly) a Bills fan. But I guess not.

[bduff54]

Stajan interfered with Max on his root to retreive a slow pass from Roy.

oh God, honestly man, do you watch the nhl much? in my opinion max made a great play there, he played the body and used to leverage to get the puck. However the NHL does not like that, stajan was going for the puck and max used his shoulder to gain it before he or stajan touched it. That is a penalty in the new NHL. you are acting like i love the penalty, it is garbabe but it is the correct call. You can't rip a ref for doing his job.

After watching that entire game lastnight i don't see the conspiracy you guys see. The leafs have not one a cup in 40 years and you guys are telling me the refs are trying to make them win? i don't see it. sorry

[bduff54]

Shut up WXP, you are just st00pid.

:rolleyes:

Like Rick and Jim said, the only reason Max got the call was because that girl Stajan fell down.

rick and jim, they are as bias as it gets just like bowen and neale? you listen to them for advice. hahaahhhaha. wow

[TRIPLE P]

Shut up WXP, you are just st00pid.

:rolleyes:

Like Rick and Jim said, the only reason Max got the call was because that girl Stajan fell down.


I like when BDuff doesn't hear what he wants he pulls out the "you don't watch hockey" card.....

And honestly...i don't care. I just find it hilarious that he expects a leaf love fest here....

[TRIPLE P]

After watching that entire game lastnight i don't see the conspiracy you guys see. The leafs have not one a cup in 40 years and you guys are telling me the refs are trying to make them win? i don't see it. sorry

Quote me once saying this was a conspiracy....or that the refs gave the game to the leafs....or that the Sabres would have won without the refs.....

It doesn't exist.

Have I ever denied the Leafs outplayed the Sabres? Absolutely not.

But we are talking about questionable calls in a questionable call thread..

[bduff54]

I like when BDuff doesn;'t here what he wants he pulls out the "you don't watch hockey" card.....

And honestly...i don't care. I just find it hilarious that he expects a leaf love fest here....

i am sorry man but it is clear you don't know the rules. you think ondrus threw spacek's stick off his face. i don't want a love fest i just want some rational thought. when the leafs lose to the sabres i never blame the refs, i blame the leafs.

[Acoustic-Fury]

You play both sides of the fence here, which always ends badly (or horrifically if its saying you're a fan of both teams that are rivals)

You are in a constant state of back and forth that makes my head spin.

At first I thought it was because you were a fan of the game first and then your Leafs second...but the moment there is any mention of a Leafs player you get absolutely defensive, most times ignoring your "love of the game" rationale.

The Sabres, like your Leafs, are a very personal subject. Here let me put it into a more "personal" scenario to maybe open your eyes:

"Hey AF, your girlfriend is pretty hot, but she's got kind of a fat gut...real cute features on her though - she could probably be a model if she lost a couple pounds. Real champion material. Hey, I've got a girlfriend too, she's not as good as your girlfriend..."

[anEinherjer]

rick and jim, they are as bias as it gets just like bowen and neale? you listen to them for advice. hahaahhhaha. wow

This garbage wipes out any credibility you might have ever had around these parts.

[anEinherjer]

So tell us then, Rule Boy, how the hell the refs decide which player to give the interference call to on this "obvious" play?

Two guys going for the puck, they hit each other, one guy falls. How the **** do you decide which guy had the right to be there? They hit each other. Max was just better at it.

Give me a break.

Acoustic: :rofl:

[bduff54]

This garbage wipes out any credibility you might have ever had around these parts.

what? are you going to say that those announcers are not biased?

[bduff54]

they are both going for the puck, Max clearly throws a shoulder in there before he gets to it. Stajan did not him at all, it sucks but that's the rule and thats why it was called. it's not hard

[itslonganditsgood]

Oh c'mon man, some fans can't take it when their team loses. It's OK, the Leafs dominated the Sabres and that is it. The Sabres looked aweful last night.

[bduff54]

Oh c'mon man, some fans can't take it when their team loses. It's OK, the Leafs dominated the Sabres and that is it. The Sabres looked aweful last night.

exactly, the sabres were tired and got dominated. are the leafs this good? not a chance, that was the best game this leaf team can muster.

[beTough54]

they are both going for the puck, Max clearly throws a shoulder in there before he gets to it. Stajan did not him at all, it sucks but that's the rule and thats why it was called. it's not hard

Enough of this bullshit. Here is the actual rule of interference, not the bduff rule:

http://www.nhl.com/hockeyu/rulebook/rule67.html

"Body position shall be determined as the player skating in front of or beside his opponent, traveling in the same direction. A player who is behind an opponent, who does not have the puck, may not use his stick, body or free hand in order to restrain his opponent, but must skate in order to gain or reestablish his proper position in order to make a check."

Maxim was not behind Stajan, he had appropriate position for a check. It's that simple.

Please point to the rule that you are imagining.

[bduff54]

Enough of this bullshit. Here is the actual rule of interference, not the bduff rule:

http://www.nhl.com/hockeyu/rulebook/rule67.html

"Body position shall be determined as the player skating in front of or beside his opponent, traveling in the same direction. A player who is behind an opponent, who does not have the puck, may not use his stick, body or free hand in order to restrain his opponent, but must skate in order to gain or reestablish his proper position in order to make a check."

Maxim was not behind Stajan, he had appropriate position for a check. It's that simple.

Please point to the rule that you are imagining.

haha, click on the link. look at A). That is exactly what max did.

[beTough54]

Nope. Read the notes, which are how refs are actually supposed to interpret rules.

"A player who is aware of an impending hit, not deemed to be a legal "battle for the puck", may not be interfered with by a player delivering a "pick"."

It was clearly a battle for the puck. Case closed, you are wrong.

[anEinherjer]

How the hell you can say Max did (a) and your boytoy Stajan didn't do (a) is amazing.

And no. Rick and Jim are nowhere ****ing near as biased as your Toronto boys. When was the last time Harry Neale showed any goddamn excitement in his voice when the Sabres scored against Tonto?

:crickets:

That's what I thought.

[bduff54]

How the hell you can say Max did (a) and your boytoy Stajan didn't do (a) is amazing.

And no. Rick and Jim are nowhere ****ing near as biased as your Toronto boys. When was the last time Harry Neale showed any goddamn excitement in his voice when the Sabres scored against Tonto?

:crickets:

That's what I thought.

more lack of knowlege, harry neale does not announce the game.

anybody got a video of the max penalty? it is pretty obvious max did exactly what the rule implies, he threw a hit at the guy without the puck.

[TRIPLE P]

more lack of knowlege, harry neale does not announce the game.

anybody got a video of the max penalty? it is pretty obvious max did exactly what the rule implies, he threw a hit at the guy without the puck.

Who gives a shit who announces leaf games?

aparently its only obvious to a leaf homer who sees what he wants (i.e. it was a "slow pass" to Stajan)....seriously...how are we supposed to believe you when you have already made up facts in your defense.....?

[bduff54]

WXP, i thought it was a pass across the middle. i really did, i wish we had video of this. So this is why they lost the game, an interference call on max?

[TRIPLE P]

WXP, i thought it was a pass across the middle. i really did, i wish we had video of this. So this is why they lost the game, an interference call on max?

Why do you keep asking if that is why they lost? Clearly it is not why they lost....you're the only one claiming that.....I don't know that I've read a post by a Sabres fan claiming the refs cost us the game...the only one saying it is you. You're creating your own "Sabre fan opinion" to suit your argument, instead of using actual peoples opinion.

But...I'm also done here....why? Because Ive already written MULTIPLE ****ING TIMES that I didn't blame the refs for the loss and that the Sabres got outplayed...yet you refuse to ****ING READ THE POSTS>...

And thats great that you really, truly, thought that....but that doesn't make it true.

[bduff54]

get a video, until then i must be right.

[TRIPLE P]

get a video, until then i must be right.

Why do you default to being right?

I know, 100% that it was a shot from the point and that Roy backhanded it.... I watched the replay on my tivo 4 times before I posted.

Besides...you're never right.

[SHINEdown30]

whatever, its disgusting. it started with tubist ripping the canadian national anthem and basically disrespecting canada. The Sabres played horrible in the 2nd period but all anyone could do is blame the refs for the trip on spacek. It's just so annoying, why can't anyone ever admit that the sabres played poorly and the opposition deserved the win? I know the leafs suck and it's not about them.

Didn't Canadiens already boo our national anthem during a game? It happened while the WTC attacks were or the Iraq war. So you have nothing to talk about ripping anthems.

[anEinherjer]

Yep, nothing like watching a queefs fan throw out non sequiturs and all kind of other fallacious nonsense. One wonders why, if he's so mild-mannered and reasonable, why he doesn't just give up and go find a goddamned queefs site where people actually want to agree with him.

[bduff54]

Didn't Canadiens already boo our national anthem during a game? It happened while the WTC attacks were or the Iraq war. So you have nothing to talk about ripping anthems.

where? that never happened in Toronto. I can't speak for anywhere else but it didn't happen here. And it certainly didn't happen in 2001.

[SHINEdown30]

where? that never happened in Toronto. I can't speak for anywhere else but it didn't happen here. And it certainly didn't happen in 2001.

Never said it happened in Toronto. And your right it didn't happen in 2001, they showed some class and did it during the Iraq war.

[BanditsRock11]

Bduff, you should just leave and never come back, you wouldnt have to worry about us, and we wouldnt have to hear your crap all the time. Its a win win thing.

[Meathead]

quite frankly i dont know why bduff puts up with you guys

i for one think hes very fair and a good hockey fan

if i were him id just ignore yall

in fact i think ill do that anyway

:rockstar:

[anEinherjer]

You're a hoser too, Meat. :D

[bduff54]

Never said it happened in Toronto. And your right it didn't happen in 2001, they showed some class and did it during the Iraq war.

well i am sure it was more in protest of the war, Thank god we stayed out of that mess.

[Meathead]

take off eh

[stevesy]

What's up with this crybaby bullshit Bduff? Are you sincerely hurt? Suck it up dude, it's just a message board.

Here's a few reasons people DON'T want to talk with you about the game right now.

1) Your first post about the game was opening a thread, blatantly calling Buffalo fans out for saying that the Leafs get all the good calls. Way to not be hostile and just "wanting to discuss hockey." Next time keep your accusations to a minimum...

2) You created another thread, after the Sabres were down 2, solely to point out that Andrew Peters got "owned" in a fight. (My main gripe with this is the fact that so much of you people use "owned" repeatedly to describe a sporting event. This isn't cyberspace, this is ****ing hockey. That goes for all of you nerds who do this. You ever hear an announcer say "owned"? No. Because it's ****ing gay. That's neither here nor there though.) Don't think that when you create a thread when we're down two, just to point out that one of our players performed poorly in an attempt to spark team motivation that ANYONE is going to react in a peaceful manner. I did, because that's just my nature, but come on...

3) You're a Leafs fan. This is a Buffalo Sabres message board. No one owes you peaceful discussion.

[bduff54]

What's up with this crybaby bullshit Bduff? Are you sincerely hurt? Suck it up dude, it's just a message board.

Here's a few reasons people DON'T want to talk with you about the game right now.

1) Your first post about the game was opening a thread, blatantly calling Buffalo fans out for saying that the Leafs get all the good calls. Way to not be hostile and just "wanting to discuss hockey." Next time keep your accusations to a minimum...

2) You created another thread, after the Sabres were down 2, solely to point out that Andrew Peters got "owned" in a fight. (My main gripe with this is the fact that so much of you people use "owned" repeatedly to describe a sporting event. This isn't cyberspace, this is ****ing hockey. That goes for all of you nerds who do this. You ever hear an announcer say "owned"? No. Because it's ****ing gay. That's neither here nor there though.) Don't think that when you create a thread when we're down two, just to point out that one of our players performed poorly in an attempt to spark team motivation that ANYONE is going to react in a peaceful manner. I did, because that's just my nature, but come on...

3) You're a Leafs fan. This is a Buffalo Sabres message board. No one owes you peaceful discussion.

nice post boss, i like it.

[Sabres244]

well I'm glad I stayed away from this thread

[Sabres244]

The Sabres lost, plain and simple. I didn't like some of the calls, but none were game changing. Biron lost the Sabres all the momentum(which at the time they had) when he let that horrible goal by Steen in.

The Sabres didn't play well. Esp: Toni Lydman his give aways cost us dearly.

[ricogarion]

Two goals directly resulted off the stick of Toni "Dreamer" Lydman turnovers.The Sabres are entertaining the idea of sewing and alarm clock into his jersey to bring him out of his all to frequent slumbers.

[two4trippn]

Biron did not cost the team that game - he kept them in it while the forwards were sleepwalking, especially with 4 SOGs in the second.

[jheigl]

im pretty realistic and i know that everyone deep down knows the sabres are the best team in the NHL, so when they lose to a team like the leafs, i dont start jumping on everyone on the boards...i mean come on...theres 82 games in a season....we are not going to beat every team every time...that does not mean the other team is better.....i mean come on guys, this was a pretty bad game for us....who is going to say that this was one of our best games? the leafs beat us...big deal...that means nothing....that doesnt mean they are better than we are.

[Pondslider]

they are both going for the puck, Max clearly throws a shoulder in there before he gets to it. Stajan did not him at all, it sucks but that's the rule and thats why it was called. it's not hard

If Max had hit him so that another Sabres player could get to the puck then it would have been clear cut interference. Since Stajan was reaching his stick out to touch the puck and Max touched it immediately after the hit the call was borderline at best. That's not why the Sabres lost but it was not a good call.

[amico1990]

You play both sides of the fence here, which always ends badly (or horrifically if its saying you're a fan of both teams that are rivals)

You are in a constant state of back and forth that makes my head spin.

At first I thought it was because you were a fan of the game first and then your Leafs second...but the moment there is any mention of a Leafs player you get absolutely defensive, most times ignoring your "love of the game" rationale.

The Sabres, like your Leafs, are a very personal subject. Here let me put it into a more "personal" scenario to maybe open your eyes:

"Hey AF, your girlfriend is pretty hot, but she's got kind of a fat gut...real cute features on her though - she could probably be a model if she lost a couple pounds. Real champion material. Hey, I've got a girlfriend too, she's not as good as your girlfriend..."

This is the way I see it at least. The majority of the people on this board are fans of the sport, in general, and most of them are knowledgable and fair. However, the Sabres, or in your case bduff, the Leafs, will always be front and center in their hearts and the biases will follow accordingly. The mere thought of the Leafs makes my unhappy; their fans acting like *******s at the arena, Darcy Tucker, the cocky Pat Quinn days etc...and I'm pretty sure most of these guys feel the same way. I understand your an objective, knowledgable fan of the game, but I can't help but think your Leaf pride came to the forefront last night and it definitly rubbed people the wrong way on here. For all of us here, the Sabres, and the Bills for that matter, are a very sensitive subject. The shitty play of our club mixed with your pro- Leaf commentary pretty much put all of us over the edge. That's why you got the response you did.