That Hugo Chavez is a kool socialist dude !

[uppy]

Good old Hugo...making all the right leftists moves.Step one control the

telecommunication companies (for the good of the country ;) ) the socialist

utopia of Venezuea is on the move....lol

I wonder does Hugo offers free health care as good as Castro does ?

Question,when will Hugo "nationalize" all the boats so no one can leave?

life is good


Jan 08 3:35 PM US/Eastern


By IAN JAMES
Associated Press Writer

CARACAS, Venezuela (AP) -- Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez announced plans Monday to nationalize the country's electrical and telecommunications companies, calling them "strategic sectors" that should be in the hands of the nation.
The New York Stock Exchange immediately halted trading in CANTV, Venezuela's largest publicly traded company, which was singled out in Chavez' speech. The decision was also likely to affect Electricidad de Caracas, owned by AES Corp.



It was the boldest move by the Venezuelan leader since he was re- elected by a wide margin last month promising to a more radical turn toward socialism in Venezuela.

"All of those sectors that in an area so important and strategic for all of us as is electricity _ all of that which was privatized, let it be nationalized, Chavez said in a televised speech after swearing in a new Cabinet

More....







http://www.breitbart.com/news/2007/01/08/D8MHAMG00.html

[uppy]

Calling the north left....come in north left

[nehemiah]

:burp:

:bigwhoop:

:sumo:

[uppy]

:burp:

:bigwhoop:

:sumo:

You like good old Hugo...is he making all the right moves or what....lol


Life is good.

[uppy]

The hyenas are hiding......LMAO

Calling the north left boys ! !

Your hero is doing the job...ooo the irony

[mark3274]

The hyenas are hiding......LMAO

Calling the north left boys ! !

Your hero is doing the job...ooo the irony

what irony lol
who cares about chavez lol

[uppy]

The north left boys love Him

[г]

Let's all chip in $5 and get Upstart laid...

[deconstruction]

The hyenas are hiding......LMAO

Calling the north left boys ! !

Your hero is doing the job...ooo the irony

Umm he's not my hero, he's a tool. An entertaining tool, but still a tool. I'm just wondering, is this like when Bush didn't take a question from Helen Thomas for 2 years as a form of media control?

[shiva2999]

Good for Hugo.

I have no problem with nationalizing telecommunications and electricity.

The privately owned US media is a disgrace.

And as far as electricity, why not google "Enron California"?

[shiva2999]

Umm he's not my hero, he's a tool. An entertaining tool, but still a tool.

Why is he a tool?

Because he disrespects your President?

[JLB]

http://www.anglersandhunters.com/images/trout.jpg

Great fishing in Canada.

[uppy]

Good for Hugo.

I have no problem with nationalizing telecommunications and electricity.

The privately owned US media is a disgrace.

And as far as electricity, why not google "Enron California"?


Price controls, nationalizing industries and all the other hallmarks of socialism

will lead to Chaves head on a spike within 5 years.It could come sooner

if he keeps kissing up with countrys like Iran (Monroe Doctrine)

One more , tin-horn dictator in Latin America,living day by day.

[nehemiah]

bbc!!!

[nehemiah]

Price controls, nationalizing industries and all the other hallmarks of socialism

will lead to Chaves head on a spike within 5 years.It could come sooner

if he keeps kissing up with countrys like Iran (Monroe Doctrine)

One more , tin-horn dictator in Latin America,living day by day.wow.

:bigwhoop:

big talker, eh?

[uppy]

wow.

:bigwhoop:

big talker, eh?

Are you all for Price controls, nationalizing industries ?

Should we do it here...if I recall before the election you

had a Revolution jones going..now tell me who's the big talker ...


:bigwhoop:

life is good

[iakona]

What is with all this babbling?
"life is good, life is good..."
Man, shhut-up! You are nothing but a talking point spewing sheep! Everyone look at the talking sheep....

http://rjr10036.typepad.com/proceed_at_your_own_risk/images/050102_bush_panel_200.jpg

[Green Lantern]

Are you all for Price controls, nationalizing industries ?

Should we do it here...if I recall before the election you

had a Revolution jones going..now tell me who's the big talker ...


:bigwhoop:

life is good


I think that someone like Chavez is just what a country like Venezuela needs.

I think we should not and could not do it here.

[klonski]

FIdel , when he came to power first nationalized the media, not the sugar plantations or the nickel mines. Chavez is doing the same thing. He will not naitonalize oil so as not to disrupt production. As long as oil is expensive Chavez will thrive. If the oil boom turns bust, the money wil run out and he will be in trouble. Look for Cuba to follow the Chinese model

[Green Lantern]

FIdel , when he came to power first nationalized the media, not the sugar plantations or the nickel mines. Chavez is doing the same thing. He will not naitonalize oil so as not to disrupt production. As long as oil is expensive Chavez will thrive. If the oil boom turns bust, the money wil run out and he will be in trouble. Look for Cuba to follow the Chinese model

I thought oil was already nationalized in Venezuela, no?

[shiva2999]

Hugo Chavez kicks mega ****ing ass.

He's a waaaaaaaaaay better man than George ****ing W Bush.

But then that's not saying much.

[JLB]

A better man whats that mean?

[shiva2999]

Kinder, cooler, smarter, braver, better looking...

Stuff like that.

Plus he has a cool parrot.

[JLB]

http://boortz.com/images/hugo_chavez_bird.jpg

I think the bird shit on him what's that smell Hugo?

[shiva2999]

Hugo's an animal lover too, whereas Dubya...

Abuses his dog...

http://www.uncoveror.com/bushdog.jpg

Forces turkeys to blow him...

http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/S/H/bush_turkey.jpg

Not to mention practising for Iraq on frogs...

http://partners.nytimes.com/library/politics/camp/052100wh-gop-bush-bio.html

A Philosophy With Roots in Conservative Texas Soil

By NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF

MIDLAND, Tex. -- The fourth-grade classroom erupted in titters as George W. Bush, one of the class clowns, faced his friends. He had quietly used an ink pen to draw a beard and long sideburns on his cheeks.

The teacher, Frances Childress, grabbed George by the arm, yanked him out of class and marched him down the long outside corridor to the principal's office near the main entrance to Sam Houston Elementary School.

"Just look at him," the principal, John Bizilo, recalls Mrs. Childress telling him. "He's been making a disturbance in class."

The next step was pretty obvious for anyone in the 1950's version of the West Texas oil town of Midland: Mr. Bizilo told George to bend over and then reached for his paddle, the thickness of a Ping-Pong paddle but narrower and twice as long. Mr. Bizilo gave George three "licks," and the boy's shrieks filled the office.

"When I hit him, he cried," Mr. Bizilo remembered the other day. "Oh, did he cry! He yelled as if he'd been shot. But he learned his lesson."

So he did.

...and...

In addition to church groups, various civic organizations were also active, and one of the local rituals for children was the meetings with cookies and milk at the home of a nice old lady who represented the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals.

The cookies were digested more thoroughly than the teachings.

"We were terrible to animals," recalled Mr. Throckmorton, laughing. A dip behind the Bush home turned into a small lake after a good rain, and thousands of frogs would come out.

"Everybody would get BB guns and shoot them," Mr. Throckmorton said. "Or we'd put firecrackers in the frogs and throw them and blow them up."

...more...

[uppy]

lol... I did that too when I was a kid

Everybody would get BB guns and shoot them," Mr. Throckmorton said. "Or we'd put firecrackers in the frogs and throw them and blow them up."

[shiva2999]

lol... I did that too when I was a kid

Everybody would get BB guns and shoot them," Mr. Throckmorton said. "Or we'd put firecrackers in the frogs and throw them and blow them up."

Why am I not surprised?

Did you pull the wings off flies and burn ants with a magnifying glass too?

[TheGoodShepherd]

lol... I did that too when I was a kid

Everybody would get BB guns and shoot them," Mr. Throckmorton said. "Or we'd put firecrackers in the frogs and throw them and blow them up."


That's pretty disgusting if you did.

Isnt that a trait for serial killers?

Oh wait...you and Bush both are responsible for ending lives.

[uppy]

Why am I not surprised?

Did you pull the wings off flies and burn ants with a magnifying glass too?

Yup ,and I burn ants with six pack rings...it was like a bombing run on Japan.

To be a kid again

[uppy]

That's pretty disgusting if you did.

Isnt that a trait for serial killers?

Oh wait...you and Bush both are responsible for ending lives.

How am I responsible for ending lives chimp ?

I bet you have killed more bugs with your lawnmower then I have with a lit

six pack ring.

[anEinherjer]

Shiva - semi-serious question here: All I read on "my side of the aisle" indicates that Hugo is heading down the same dictatorial road that has been tread by various left-wing rulers of the past 50-odd years.

Can you tell me, is Hugo different?

Or maybe the question should be: Were the previous left-wing rulers (Castro et al) not as bad as we're lead to believe?

I have a feeling you're more likely to point in the latter than the former direction, but I really don't know the answer.

[anEinherjer]

p.s. You can light a 6-pack ring??

[uppy]

p.s. You can light a 6-pack ring??


Yup....get a six pack ring and hold the top and put a match to the bottom

it drips flaming gobs of plastic.....you never tryed this as a kid ?

[shiva2999]

Shiva - semi-serious question here: All I read on "my side of the aisle" indicates that Hugo is heading down the same dictatorial road that has been tread by various left-wing rulers of the past 50-odd years.

Anyone who's even SLIGHTLY left of center and challenges American power gets smeared in your country. As I've said before, you have no left in America, only center to wackjob right.

Hugo is an affront to American conventional wisdom and as I've illustrated over and over again the last five years, both here and in the hardcore forum, calling bullshit on American conventional wisdom is like calling Americans stupid. Their initial reaction is they want to kill you.

Can you tell me, is Hugo different?

As Chavez has said many times, he has no problem with Americans or America, his problem is with your present government. That doesn't make him unique.

Or maybe the question should be: Were the previous left-wing rulers (Castro et al) not as bad as we're lead to believe?

The left wants to rehabilitate the right, the right wants to kill the left.

Do you remember that thread I started about the myth of Stalin intentionally starving the Ukraine and how the story was promulgated by William Randolph Hearst and the Nazis?

I have a feeling you're more likely to point in the latter than the former direction, but I really don't know the answer.

I have no problem with the concept that some leftists have committed brutal and criminal actions in the name of communism and socialism.

However that doesn't mean they haven't gotten a bad rap courtesy of the other side.

From all the reading I've done, I think Stalin got a bad rap, Castro got a bad rap, Milosevic got a bad rap, Saddam got a bad rap and now Hugo's getting the treatment.

The problem for the American power structure this time is because of the internet, the flow of information can't be controlled.

[anEinherjer]

Yup....get a six pack ring and hold the top and put a match to the bottom

it drips flaming gobs of plastic.....you never tryed this as a kid ?

Not with a 6-pack ring, but with styrofoam cups, you call it a zit stick.

Shiva, get back to you shortly, 24 is on. Yay, more torture!! ;)

[uppy]

Shiva

[QUOTE] Saddam got a bad rap and now Hugo's getting the treatment



Saddam killed a millon people...lol

should we wait until Chavez does the same ?

As Chavez has said many times, he has no problem with Americans or America, his problem is with your present government. That doesn't make him unique.

If he has problems with our goverment he has a problem with the American

people.

[anEinherjer]

Anyone who's even SLIGHTLY left of center and challenges American power gets smeared in your country. As I've said before, you have no left in America, only center to wackjob right.

It seems to me though that "left" means collectivism, and I don't see how that would ever play in America. My kind of individualism is too well-entrenched. "Left" could also mean anarchist-leaning (as opposed to central authority) which you know I'm all for. "Left" could also be something completely different. I guess I can admit I don't know what your definition of "left" is.

And yeah, when you attack Americans, you're going to get blow-back. I don't know why that's a surprise. :) Noone likes to be told they're wrong, no matter what they're wrong about.

As Chavez has said many times, he has no problem with Americans or America, his problem is with your present government. That doesn't make him unique.

Well, I agree with him on this one. I guess that means I'm a bad dude too, eh uppy? :rolleyes:


Do you remember that thread I started about the myth of Stalin intentionally starving the Ukraine and how the story was promulgated by William Randolph Hearst and the Nazis?

Nope, sorry, but I'll do some looking around. What is your opinion of the dissidents, particularly in the scientific community, who were jailed and/or executed by Stalin's gang? I find it hard to have any positive feelings towards Uncle Joe - I'm sure he did lots of decent things, but having the freedom to screw myself is pretty important. ;)

From all the reading I've done, I think Stalin got a bad rap, Castro got a bad rap, Milosevic got a bad rap, Saddam got a bad rap and now Hugo's getting the treatment.

Didn't they all become dictators? It's not like any of these guys has held a vote and let another guy win. (Of course, one could say the American aristocracy is doing the same thing to us right now - one gang of rich guys run the show, or the other gang does...)

Anyway, thanks. I'll do some reading. Hearing about what Hugo's doing to nationalize a bunch of his industries is a little worrisome though...

[shiva2999]

http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/articles.php?artno=1933

Confused About Venezuela?

Saturday, Jan 13, 2007 Print format
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By: Eva Golinger - Venezuelanalysis.com

Over the past few days, major newspapers in the United States, such as The New York Times, The Washington Post, The Los Angeles Times and The Wall Street Journal, have published editorials aggressively and harshly criticizing recent declarations and decisions made by re-elected President Hugo Chávez and his cabinet. A large percentage of the content of these editorials, which reflect the viewpoints of the newspapers, are based on a distortion and misconception of new policies being implemented in Venezuela and the overall way government is functioning. In the Washington Post’s “Venezuela’s Leap Backward”, published on January 10, the editorial board intentionally and mistakenly portrays the recent presidential elections this past December in Venezuela as illegitimate and unfair. By falsely claiming that Chávez conducted a “one-sided campaign that left a majority of Venezuelans believing they might be punished if they did not cast their ballots for him”, the Post wants its readers to think Venezuelans who voted for Chávez did so under duress and fear. Nothing could be further from the truth. A majority of Venezuelans publicly express their sincere admiration and approval of President Chávez in an open and fearless way on a daily basis in this country. Most Venezuelans believe Chávez is the best president the nation has ever had, and statistics prove that his government has built more bridges, railroads, hospitals, clinics, universities, schools, highways and houses than any administration in the past. The Post editorial also attempts to downplay the “only 7 million votes” Chávez received, not mentioning that those seven million votes represent more than 63% of total votes – a landslide victory to the opposition candidate’s 37% - and that no president in Venezuelan history has ever, ever received such a large number of votes in an election.

The New York Times editorial, also published on January 10, attacks a recent statement made by President Chávez regarding the nationalization of one telephone company, CANTV, and an electric company. However the Times doesn’t explain that the CANTV is the only non-cellular telephone company in the country, giving it a complete monopoly on national land-line telecommunications and control over a majority of Internet service as well. Furthermore, the CANTV was privatized only in 1991, during the second non-consecutive term of Carlos Andrés Pérez a president later impeached for corruption who implemented a series of privatization measures, despite having run for office on a non-privatization platform just three years before. In fact, as soon as Carlos Andrés Pérez won office in 1988 after convincing the Venezuelan people he would not permit “neo-liberalism” on Venezuelan shores, he immediately began to announce the privatization of several national industries, including telecommunications, education and the medical and petroleum sectors. This deception led to massive anti-privatization protests during February 1989 during which the government ordered the armed forces to “open-fire” on the demonstrators and arrest and torture those not killed. The result was the “Caracazo”, a tragic scar on contemporary Venezuelan history that left more than 3,000 dead in mass gravesites and thousands more injured and detained. The re-nationalizing of Venezuela’s one landline phone company is a strategic necessity and an anti-monopoly measure necessary to ensure that Venezuelans have access to telecommunications service. (Take it from someone who lives here. You can’t even get a landline if it isn’t already installed in your residence. The waiting list is over 2 years and you have to bribe someone to actually do the job). And furthermore, the new Minister of Telecommunications, Jesse Chacón, announced that any company “nationalized” will be fully compensated for its shares and property at market value.

...more...

[Ralonzo]

More on the fascist (http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/01/23/america/LA-GEN-Venezuela-Protest.php)

I don't know whether it's intent or merely irony that his "Enabling Act" rule-by-decree coercion of the legislature is exactly what the Reichstag called it in 1933. Ok, not exactly (Ermächtigungsgesetz), but it translates the same.

All you need to know about Hugo Chavez is: His goals match precisely with that of the Democratic Party: Marxism. Nationalization of industry, redistribution of wealth, subservience of the individual to the collective, establishment of a permanent power-elite to rule over all. He just doesn't obfuscate it, or more to the point, doesn't need to.

[JLB]

[QUOTE=shiva2999;1517841]Confused About Venezuela?

Nope.

[rob on the job]

Prediction: Chavez starts a Southern Hemisphere war within three years.

[shiva2999]

Prediction. Chavez builds death camps and starts killing right-wingers by the thousands within three years.

[rob on the job]

Prediction: Certain leftists begin masturbating furiously to fantasies about Chavez within three minutes.

[JLB]

Prediction: Certain leftists begin masturbating furiously to fantasies about Chavez within three minutes.

Remember no link required please in this case lmao.

[shiva2999]

Prediction: Certain leftists begin masturbating furiously to fantasies about Chavez within three minutes.

My favorite fantasy is the one where Hugo passes a law by decree where he gets to have sex with every Miss Venezuela that goes to the Miss Universe pageant.

Then he plays the Priest and the Schoolgirl with them in the President's office where he tells them they've been very, very bad and need spankings.

[JLB]

My favorite fantasy is the one where Hugo passes a law by decree where he gets to have sex with every Miss Venezuela that goes to the Miss Universe pageant.

Then he plays the Priest and the Schoolgirl with them in the President's office where he tells them they've been very, very bad and need spankings.

This one will not get the usual free pass your gonna have to link it.

[shiva2999]

Can you just imagine Hugo Chavez getting his greasy hands on this?

And his parrot gets sloppy seconds!

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2003/20031002/world4.jpg

[JLB]

Can you just imagine Hugo Chavez getting his greasy hands on this?

And his parrot gets sloppy seconds!

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2003/20031002/world4.jpg

His Parrot would be first take that one in any direction you need.

[rob on the job]

My favorite fantasy is the one where Hugo passes a law by decree where he gets to have sex with every Miss Venezuela that goes to the Miss Universe pageant.

Then he plays the Priest and the Schoolgirl with them in the President's office where he tells them they've been very, very bad and need spankings.

With a dude this ugly, Miss Venezuela is bound to scream rape.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/dayart/aponline/44551.89Venezuela-Chavez.sff.jpg

[shiva2999]

With a dude this ugly, Miss Venezuela is bound to scream rape.


I heard this guy got a lot of tail...

www.handjobs.com

http://www.medaloffreedom.com/HenryKissinger_MadeleineAlbright1.jpg

[rob on the job]

I heard this guy got a lot of tail...

http://www.medaloffreedom.com/HenryKissinger_MadeleineAlbright1.jpg

And look at him now ... a sad and weary old man reduced to begging for oral gratification from another former Secretary of State.