Pictures From The Front Lines

[35Pete]

Patriotic American

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[35Pete]

Enemy getting ready to invade.

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[35Pete]

Sappers carrying garden tools trying to infiltrate.

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[sukie]

Wielding "Cabbage Grenades" no doubt.

[35Pete]

Soldiers From the Third Batallion 2nd Landscaping Company in custody.

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[35Pete]

Pro War Protesters. Obviously they mow their own lawns.

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[35Pete]

I like the Mexican People. I HATE Illegal Aliens.

I'm a little sore at them though because they are sending their garbage across the border. I wonder how they'd feel if we sent our trash across their borders and overwhelmed them?

[sukie]

We do... Our spring breakers.

[Gibby]

We do... Our spring breakers.

Unlike their trash, we tend to want our trash back from spring break.

[г]

Patriotic American

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Holey crap! What happened to his neck ?

[pmoon6]

Unlike their trash, we tend to want our trash back from spring break.Not me, the little ********s can stay there for all I care.

[pmoon6]

But..but ...but Pete. The minutemen are vile racists. Trigger happy rednecks waiting for an excuse to pop a brown person.

Seriously though, a high five to those dedicated people who go to the border on their own time to effect change that our government is too impotent to accomplish. Freedom of speech and action at work.

[nehemiah]

The minutemen are vile racists. Trigger happy rednecks waiting for an excuse to pop a brown person.100% correct.

[pmoon6]

100% correct.That was sarcasm.

Do you know anyone that has volunteered? Or do you just base your opinion on stereotypes that run around in your massive brain?

[pmoon6]

I find it amusing that the same guys that defend the anti war protesters, using the First Amendment as their defense, vilify the Minutemen when they are exercising theirs.

The Minutemen go one step further. They are actually down there helping law enforcement with the problem, as opposed to having group hugs, carrying a sign, lying in the road obstructing traffic and siping green tea.

It just confirms what I've said before. The left loves freedom of speech......as long as you say the right things.

[Maz]

Yea power to these minutemen for taking the initiative. Bush talks a bunch of rhetoric but of course we see no action. Maybe these people can initiate a little fervor in congress to maybe do something? I don’t know, maybe? Also, there is a VAST difference between being a racist and think that their is a logical limit and the immigrant we should take and an even more logical limit and how many illegal's we could sustain while they live in our borders and reap the benefits for free? I live in a community overran with illegal's that are getting paid under the table and paying nothing back in tax! I'm not saying close the borders and send them home, I'm saying guard our borders and lets be more vigil in who we allow in our nation. All these people who are degrading these minutemen now to were the same people who try to vilify their contempt for a war in Iraq with “America should worry about the problems at home” and similar arguments. Maybe it’s me but can anyone say leftist zealots?

[Green Lantern]

Yea power to these minutemen for taking the initiative. Bush talks a bunch of rhetoric but of course we see no action. Maybe these people can initiate a little fervor in congress to maybe do something? I don’t know, maybe? Also, there is a VAST difference between being a racist and think that their is a logical limit and the immigrant we should take and an even more logical limit and how many illegal's we could sustain while they live in our borders and reap the benefits for free? I live in a community overran with illegal's that are getting paid under the table and paying nothing back in tax! I'm not saying close the borders and send them home, I'm saying guard our borders and lets be more vigil in who we allow in our nation. All these people who are degrading these minutemen now to were the same people who try to vilify their contempt for a war in Iraq with “America should worry about the problems at home” and similar arguments. Maybe it’s me but can anyone say leftist zealots?

Are you saying that people should take the law into their own hands when what the government has decided as a remedy is not what those people agree with?

Please, is that it?

[Maz]

Yea, exactly... I'm saying if taking little action will initiate big action from a rather lax congress then so be it. As of now, nothing horrid or terrible has come out of this ordeal so why not? Maybe cause we can't retort with anything that actually dignifies an opinion so I'll just twist words. All you people complain about America meddling in other affairs but the fact that we sustain Mexico with American jobs and money dosen't seem to bother you one bit. We need to take strong action to protect our border not only for our own sake but for the prosperity of nations like Mexico who COULD sustain their own nation but find it easier to take jobs from American's rather then generate their own jobs and oppurtunities for their people. Also, PLEASE tell me... WHAT has the government done? The flow of aliens hasnt slowed at all so what is this "remedy" you speak of? Another idealistic treasure in the land of "Make Love not War" utopia some live in? Also, I'd be far more concerned with the poor working conditions and exploitation of these migrant workers IN the borders than the people trying to keep more from coming in.

[TheGoodShepherd]

The Mexicans are just taking back the land that's rightfully theirs, so good for them. And F every American along the border. Israel uses this line of reasoning for it's occupation of the holy lands, Mexicans might as well start doing the same.

LOL

[Maz]

sadly for Mexico though, they are no Palestine:) Also, that's a pretty empty comment saying that migrant workers and aliens have spread a lot farther than just Texas my friend

[35Pete]

The Mexicans are just taking back the land that's rightfully theirs, so good for them. And F every American along the border. Israel uses this line of reasoning for it's occupation of the holy lands, Mexicans might as well start doing the same.

LOL

Man you have the biggest case of nationalistic penis envy I have ever seen. LOL

You are so pathetic.

[sukie]

Pete... explain penis envy to our little friend... remember he's only 19 or 20.
His brother might be able to "esplain" it to him once his engineering duties allow for a break..

[Maz]

oh oh ohhhh let me... let me, haha

[Green Lantern]

Yea, exactly... I'm saying if taking little action will initiate big action from a rather lax congress then so be it. As of now, nothing horrid or terrible has come out of this ordeal so why not? Maybe cause we can't retort with anything that actually dignifies an opinion so I'll just twist words. All you people complain about America meddling in other affairs but the fact that we sustain Mexico with American jobs and money dosen't seem to bother you one bit. We need to take strong action to protect our border not only for our own sake but for the prosperity of nations like Mexico who COULD sustain their own nation but find it easier to take jobs from American's rather then generate their own jobs and oppurtunities for their people. Also, PLEASE tell me... WHAT has the government done? The flow of aliens hasnt slowed at all so what is this "remedy" you speak of? Another idealistic treasure in the land of "Make Love not War" utopia some live in? Also, I'd be far more concerned with the poor working conditions and exploitation of these migrant workers IN the borders than the people trying to keep more from coming in.

I just want to be clear that you advocate individual action in the face of a lack of what you consider justice or adequate action by the government. What you advocate is a breakdown of civil law, of civil society. You have, twice now, told the readers on this board that you deny the legitimacy of this government to affect action as IT sees fit and that you would rather that individual citizens take matters into their own hands to solve a problem that they see.

Civil society in the US is founded on the political thoughts of John Locke, Thomas Hobbes, and some Enlightenment thinkers. The number one premise of living in a civil society is this: man is self-interested. The only way men can live together in peace is to give up the right to being their own judge in their own cause. Since man is tainted with self interest, he is a poor judge (lacks objectivity) about what justice is. We invented civil society to take the judgements out of the hands of a mob who is most likely to go too far in the heat of passion and give the power of judgment to someone who "has no dog in the fight." People can take their case to court to remedy their problems, not duke it out on the streets.

Once again: You advocate taking the law into your own hands?

Once again: You have a PS degree from some accredited college or university?

Lastly, from where I live, I can see the need for illegal immigrants. They are fillling jobs that would go unfilled if they did not take them. From this, along with the fact that illegal immigration has jumped during the economic upturn AND since the former governor of Texas has taken office, that illegal immigration is needed AND being allowed by the powers that be.

[uppy]

Lastly, from where I live, I can see the need for illegal immigrants. They are fillling jobs that would go unfilled if they did not take them.

We have people on the welfair rolls that can move into thoses jobs

[Green Lantern]

We have people on the welfair rolls that can move into thoses jobs


Which jobs are those?

[sukie]

Cabbage picking baby!!!

[TheGoodShepherd]

Man you have the biggest case of nationalistic penis envy I have ever seen. LOL

You are so pathetic.

The more illeagals the better. Keep comin boys. The more that come, the easier it will be to influence legislation to benefit illeagals and their needs at the expense of people like pete.


LOL

[Green Lantern]

Cabbage picking baby!!!

The job I am doing right now is carpentry. The ad is, "three years experience minimum."

Tell me the number of unemployed people are ABLE to, much less would consider getting off welfare to carry lumber around, fulfill the requirements of this ad?

[TheGoodShepherd]

The job I am doing right now is carpentry. The ad is, "three years experience minimum."

Tell me the number of unemployed people are ABLE to, much less would consider getting off welfare to carry lumber around, fulfill the requirements of this ad?

I would rather have hard-working illeagal aliens in the U.S than silver spoon fed, war mongering wasps like George Bush.

[Maz]

I just want to be clear that you advocate individual action in the face of a lack of what you consider justice or adequate action by the government. What you advocate is a breakdown of civil law, of civil society. You have, twice now, told the readers on this board that you deny the legitimacy of this government to affect action as IT sees fit and that you would rather that individual citizens take matters into their own hands to solve a problem that they see.

Civil society in the US is founded on the political thoughts of John Locke, Thomas Hobbes, and some Enlightenment thinkers. The number one premise of living in a civil society is this: man is self-interested. The only way men can live together in peace is to give up the right to being their own judge in their own cause. Since man is tainted with self interest, he is a poor judge (lacks objectivity) about what justice is. We invented civil society to take the judgements out of the hands of a mob who is most likely to go too far in the heat of passion and give the power of judgment to someone who "has no dog in the fight." People can take their case to court to remedy their problems, not duke it out on the streets.

Once again: You advocate taking the law into your own hands?

Once again: You have a PS degree from some accredited college or university?

Lastly, from where I live, I can see the need for illegal immigrants. They are fillling jobs that would go unfilled if they did not take them. From this, along with the fact that illegal immigration has jumped during the economic upturn AND since the former governor of Texas has taken office, that illegal immigration is needed AND being allowed by the powers that be.



Once again, you retort by twisting words. Did I say hey those guys sitting there should actually shoot an immigrant? They have sat there in protest more than anything and even you can agree that they have the right to feel how they will about immigration. If they actually harm anyone, than yes things change a great deal. Just because you can drop a few names doesn’t make you any more credible though. People initiate change in their society not people who whine and piss and moan and do absolutely nothing. Immigrants ARE needed also but we need to curb our immigration, once again though you retorted some good points. People who don't share your ideals either doesn’t take anything away from their education so don't try to patronize people like you are some sort of a political elitist even if you do love the smell of your own farts:)

[Maz]

we also need to pass legislation for better treatment and conditions for migrant workers I would say

[Gibby]

Pete... explain penis envy to our little friend... remember he's only 19 or 20.
His brother might be able to "esplain" it to him once his engineering duties allow for a break..

with that MA in Engineering he has I am surprised he doesn't have more free time on his hands. :D

[pmoon6]

The Mexicans are just taking back the land that's rightfully theirs, so good for them. And F every American along the border. Israel uses this line of reasoning for it's occupation of the holy lands, Mexicans might as well start doing the same.

LOLThey can try. I hope you are not advocating Reconquista because there will be alot of beaners in body bags.

[uppy]

Which jobs are those?

When the welfair rolls are down to those unable to WORK and we have

0% unemployment we can alow MORE LEAGAL ALIENS to enter the country

as needed.

[uppy]

They can try. I hope you are not advocating Reconquista because there will be alot of beaners in body bags.


What Pmoon said

[35Pete]

They can try. I hope you are not advocating Reconquista because there will be alot of beaners in body bags.

We need to protect Ft. Del Monte.

[SweetLee8 3PlayaWha?]

This is a really tough issue for me.

There are solid arguments and counter-arguments for each and every point.

The determining factor for me has to be the company I'd be keeping if I supported groups like the minutemen. Let's be realistic. There are alot of longwinded rants intented to make a case for a particular ideology. Usually our instincts are what drives us one way or the other. This particular group does come across as bloodthirsty, terratorial racists. I just can't align myself with that ilk.

Certainly some provisions need to be made to curtail the flow of illegals. However, building a wall or enabling a vigilante group of wannabes patrol the border seem to be inflammatory and most likely ineffective in the long run.

[deconstruction]

Patriotic American

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y241/35Pete/illeagal2.jpg

I don't know anything about this guy, but he is obviously a total herb

[Lucidvizion]

I disagree with the notion that this group is taking the law into it's own hands.

The way I see it they are just volunteering their time to help an understaffed border patrol agency enforce the current immigration laws.

Working instead of whining. Novel concept.

[35Pete]

I disagree with the notion that this group is taking the law into it's own hands.

The way I see it they are just volunteering their time to help an understaffed border patrol agency enforce the current immigration laws.

Working instead of whining. Novel concept.

They are enforcing the law. Citizens have a right, no an obligation, to enforce the law. The politicians won't because of the precious hispanic vote. Nehe wants them here to solidify the democratic vote. That's how the polls think too.

[Gibby]

I don't know anything about this guy, but he is obviously a total herb

a what? Is this a good thing or a bad thing? :D

[deconstruction]

a what? Is this a good thing or a bad thing? :D

herb. its bad. use urban dictionary.