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SpikedLemonade
December 11th, 2006, 8:43:57 PM
"The 4,000 Jews Rumor
Rumor surrounding Sept. 11th proved untrue

Shortly after September 11, 2001, false rumors began to circulate claiming that 4,000 Jews, or 4,000 Israelis, had failed to report for work at the World Trade Center (WTC) on 9/11, supposedly because they had been warned to stay away by Israeli secret services, which were allegedly responsible for the attack. The claim is totally false.....

Vague conspiracy theories blaming Israel began to appear within 24 hours of the attacks. Syria's government-owned Al Thawra newspaper may have been the first newspaper to make the "4,000 Jews" claim. According to U.S. embassy reporting, its September 15th edition falsely claimed "four thousand Jews were absent from their work on the day of the explosions."

The 4,000 figure apparently came from an article entitled "Hundreds of Israelis missing in WTC attack" which appeared in the September 12th internet edition of the Jerusalem Post. It stated, "The Foreign Ministry in Jerusalem has so far received the names of 4,000 Israelis believed to have been in the areas of the World Trade Center and the Pentagon at the time of the attacks."

Unknown conspiracy theorists apparently seized upon the 4,000 figure, transforming it into the false claim that 4,000 Jews did not report for work at the World Trade Center on September 11.

A total of 2,071 occupants of the World Trade Center died on September 11, among the 2,749 victims of the WTC attacks. According to an article in the October 11, 2001, Wall Street Journal, roughly 1,700 people had listed the religion of a person missing in the WTC attacks; approximately 10% were Jewish. A later article, in the September 5, 2002, Jewish Week, states, "based on the list of names, biographical information compiled by The New York Times, and information from records at the Medical Examiner's Office, there were at least 400 victims either confirmed or strongly believed to be Jewish." This would be approximately 15% of the total victims of the WTC attacks. A partial list of 390 Cantor Fitzgerald employees who died (out of 658 in the company) lists 49 Jewish memorial services, which is between 12% and 13%.

This 10-15% estimate of Jewish fatalities tracks closely with the percentage of Jews living in the New York area. According to the 2002 American Jewish Year Book, 9% of the population of New York State, where 64% of the WTC victims lived, is Jewish. A 2002 study estimated that New York City's population was 12% Jewish. Forty-three percent of the WTC victims lived in New York City. Thus, the number of Jewish victims correlates very closely with the number of Jewish residents in New York. If 4,000 Jews had not reported for work on September 11, the number of Jewish victims would have been much lower than 10-15%.

http://usinfo.state.gov/media/Archive/2005/Jan/14-260933.html

The New Black Panthers leader was also one of those that believed this theory as well.

NO truth to it it seems according to this article.

Does anyone have a contrary view?

г
December 11th, 2006, 8:47:34 PM
Hey, I went to York U, so i can remember getting loads of days off for Jewish Holidays in the fall.

Isn't Sept 11 close to sundown the end of the 29th of Elul ?

SpikedLemonade
December 11th, 2006, 8:56:20 PM
Instant Messages To Israel Warned Of WTC Attack

NEW YORK -- OFFICIALS at instant-messaging firm Odigo confirmed today that two employees received text messages warning of an attack on the World Trade Center two hours before terrorists crashed planes into the New York landmarks. Citing a pending investigation by law enforcement, the company declined to reveal the exact contents of the message or to identify the sender.

But Alex Diamandis, vice president of sales and marketing, confirmed that workers in Odigo's research and development and international sales office in Israel received a warning from another Odigo user approximately two hours prior to the first attack. Diamandis said the sender of the instant message was not personally known to the Odigo employees. Even though the company usually protects the privacy of users, the employees recorded the Internet protocol address of the message's sender to facilitate his or her identification.

Soon after the terrorist attacks on New York, the Odigo employees notified their management, who contacted Israeli security services. In turn, the FBI was informed of the instant message warning. FBI officials were not immediately available for comment today. The Odigo service includes a feature called People Finder that allows users to seek out and contact others based on certain interests or demographics. Diamandis said it was possible that the attack warning was broadcast to other Odigo members, but the company has not received reports of other recipients of the message...."

http://www.stormfront.org/solargeneral/library/www.fpp.co.uk/online/01/09/WTC_Odigo.html

Ru
December 11th, 2006, 9:04:36 PM
I still have yet to hear an explanation for the Israeli "moving company" that was witnessed setting up cameras, filming, and dancing while the towers were hit. The story was reported by 20/20 and other news outlets in the immediate aftermath and then disappeared. What's the deal? The company literally was abandoned with half filled moving vans and moves in process once the Mossad knew that their cover was blown.

SpikedLemonade
December 12th, 2006, 1:07:54 PM
I still have yet to hear an explanation for the Israeli "moving company" that was witnessed setting up cameras, filming, and dancing while the towers were hit. The story was reported by 20/20 and other news outlets in the immediate aftermath and then disappeared. What's the deal? The company literally was abandoned with half filled moving vans and moves in process once the Mossad knew that their cover was blown.

I didn't hear that one.

Ru
December 12th, 2006, 1:30:28 PM
I didn't hear that one.

Really? It was pretty interesting when I first saw it on 20/20 complete with pictures of the company headquarters, etc. Google it.

shiva2999
December 12th, 2006, 2:06:43 PM
Really? It was pretty interesting when I first saw it on 20/20 complete with pictures of the company headquarters, etc. Google it.

You can also google "Israeli art students 9/11".

However, the first story about 4,000 Jews told not to come to work was thoroughly debunked by the 9/11 community itself about two days after it first came out.

No one EVER took it seriously other thasn fringe groups.

Most consider it disinfo put out to tar anyone asking questions about 9/11 as anti-semites.

SpikedLemonade
December 12th, 2006, 3:40:48 PM
Most consider it disinfo put out to tar anyone asking questions about 9/11 as anti-semites.

That's where I found it initially -- at the Jewish Defense League website.