View Full Version : Rounds 1,2,3 ..... Who do you want drafted?
Merk
December 6th, 2006, 10:59:04 PM
So rather than ask everyone for there full mock draft I figured I'd ask What posistions and players you would like to see the Bills draft on day one of the draft.
The Bills right now are picking 14 and I imagine we will land somewhere between 12 and 17. Just something to keep in mind
Also I'd like to keep the ball busting on what rounds players are going in to a min. Examples of such are "No way _____ last till there" or "the 2nd is way to early for_____" ect. If its in the ball park just let it be. I'm more interested in what players people want and in what rounds should posistions be addressed Of course if you want Calvin Johnson in the second , well you brought that on yourself :)
Sources of players:
Heres the Ranges players sorted by school
http://www.buffalorange.com/showthread.php?t=96608
Plus the numorous profiles that are in the war room
Heres Great Blues posistion rankings for a more condensed version of the players
http://www.gbnreport.com/positionalrankings.htm
Merk
December 6th, 2006, 11:01:09 PM
Round 1-Zach Miller TE, Arizona State: I know the consensus around the range is that we must go DL or OL in the first but w/ were we are picking and who might be picking in front of us I don’t think any 1st round caliber Guards or DT's will be there (unfortunately I see the Dolphins picking Blaylock right in front of us). Anyway my reasoning for the pick is that we have been getting little to no offensive production from our TE for the better part of the past decade and this year is no different. Our starting TE just caught his first TD in week 13 and that is quite frankly, pathetic. If we could get a offensive threat at that spot that defenses have to respect than it will open things up for Lee and the other WR b/c we could attack the middle of the field more often w/ the TE. Miller IMO fits that role. For those of you who haven’t seen him he is a lot like T.Heap from Baltimore. He understands soft spots in Zones and at 6'5 he is a Red Zone threat
Round 2- Brandon Mebane DT, California: I'm assuming Tiny Tim wont be back so we will need another DT in the rotation. Mebane has been under the radar for a while now. He is pretty good run defender and gets good push in the passing game. He has very good awareness and is always around the ball. He’s also a high effort guy and he fits the cover 2 scheme
Round 3- Dan Mozes C/G, West Virginia: He’s a little on the small side at 290 but he is tough as nails and has played all 3 IOL position at a high level in college. He is very good at pulling and would be a good fit in the blocking system we use. Gives 100% every play and always fires out and uses good leverage. He’s intelligence work ethic, leadership skills and intangibles are unquestioned. He may not be here in round 3 but I figure his size might lower his stock a little bit
ICRockets
December 6th, 2006, 11:22:31 PM
1st- Patrick Willis, MLB Ole Miss
While it may not seem like it, a young MLB is one of our most underrated glaring needs this year. London Fletcher will not be around much longer- hell, we'll be fortunate to bring him back next year. As of right now, we have nobody to fill in for him when he retires or leaves Buffalo. That's why we need to find his replacement THIS year, so that hopefully the kid can be tutored by one of the best (in his prime) MLBs in the league.
I'm not sure about the 2nd and 3rd. Depending on how high his stock rises, we may want to look at Brian Leonard (FB, Rutgers) in one of those rounds.
Merk
December 6th, 2006, 11:53:07 PM
1st- Patrick Willis, MLB Ole Miss
While it may not seem like it, a young MLB is one of our most underrated glaring needs this year. London Fletcher will not be around much longer- hell, we'll be fortunate to bring him back next year. As of right now, we have nobody to fill in for him when he retires or leaves Buffalo. That's why we need to find his replacement THIS year, so that hopefully the kid can be tutored by one of the best (in his prime) MLBs in the league.
I'm not sure about the 2nd and 3rd. Depending on how high his stock rises, we may want to look at Brian Leonard (FB, Rutgers) in one of those rounds.
I love the idea of Willis he is my favorite player in college right now and is IMO clearly the best LB in the draft( http://www.buffalorange.com/showthread.php?t=95128 )and should be the first one off the board in 2007. Hes a player you can start right away but a year on the bench and ST's wouldnt hurt
As for Leonard he is looking to be a 2nd rounder w/ an outside chance at being a first. Hes another player I like and could add a dimention to this offense
Good Picks!
Mouldsie
December 7th, 2006, 12:11:05 AM
A few possibilities:
Frank Okam
Brian Leonard
Anthony Waters
Patrick Willis
Brian Leonard
Paul Soliai
Patrick Willis
DT
Woodley/Spencer/Bazuin
Okoye
Rufus/Poz
OT
Willis
OT/DT
DT/OT
Levi Brown
DT/LB
LB/DT
pretty much all solid options that would please me.... and also wouldnt mind dealing willis for a 1st-2nd rounder either and picking someone up then signing an Ahman Green for a few years and drafting a #3 RB like Ronnie McGill
hopefully we wont ave to deal with a scenario that involves QB in round 1-2 but who knows..
WhiteRabbit
December 7th, 2006, 12:47:25 AM
Here's my 3 ...
1st round: DT Amobi Okoye (Louisville) - Guy is a 19 year old college senior. He's smart and a beast. The run stuffer in the middle this team needs, it's a must.
2nd round: OG Manuel Ramirez (Texas Tech)
3rd round: OG Tim Duckworth (Auburn)
Duckworth will probably be around in the 4th or 5th round ... I just wanted to set a theme with my post :)
ICRockets
December 7th, 2006, 1:03:21 AM
Here's my 3 ...
1st round: DT Amobi Okoye (Louisville) - Guy is a 19 year old college senior. He's smart and a beast. The run stuffer in the middle this team needs, it's a must.
2nd round: OG Manuel Ramirez (Texas Tech)
3rd round: OG Tim Duckworth (Auburn)
Duckworth will probably be around in the 4th or 5th round ... I just wanted to set a theme with my post :)
Okoye's another guy I like. I agree that we need a dominant run stuffer at DT, and this guy's a class act. He'd definitely be one of those high character guys that Marv looks for.
FknGvna
December 7th, 2006, 1:59:34 AM
Tom Donahoe shake up pick:
Gaines Adams
Marcus Thomas
Aaron Sears-sleeper pick
Take that Gurus!
Juicy tidbit:http://draftshowcase.com/KlundFeature.htm
”Bob Sanders is only 5'10, 192 lbs and he's one of the hardest hitters in the league. I'm the same way, I play with a lot of heart, I love to bring it and I love hitting.”
the next Elvis Dumervil:
Mkristo Bruce Washington State Sr 6'6 250
Watch out for this guy. He's physically imposing with a gigantic wingspan and has shown he can get to the quarterback. He may draw some interest as a 3-4 OLB as well. He needs to grow into his frame some more, but he's really talented.
I hear this guys name alot too--
Brandon Mebane is a great penetrator and can hold his own in the running game, so should be in high demand as April approaches. If his size checks out similar to his listed 6'3 295, he could end up being the first defensive tackle off the board.http://www.footballsfuture.com/2007/prospects/brandon_mebane.html
FknGvna
December 7th, 2006, 2:27:34 AM
Okoye's another guy I like. I agree that we need a dominant run stuffer at DT, and this guy's a class act. He'd definitely be one of those high character guys that Marv looks for.
He is an excellent run stopper, but Okoye does not project as much of a playmaker at the next level. He can get penetration but lacks the ability to finish plays off. He has had a lot of success at a young age, but he may need more time to mature before he becomes a factor in the NFL.http://www.footballsfuture.com/2007/prospects/amobi_okoye.html
Character scmarachter--Thomas is an impact interior lineman. He is the player you always look to neutralize first when game planning against the Gator line.http://www.footballsfuture.com/2007/prospects/marcus_thomas.html
Buffalo13
December 7th, 2006, 11:04:06 AM
round one - best available player. after reading the posts above, i realized that there are very few picks that could upset me. we have a lot of needs and i think the key is getting a player who can make an impact right away. if the best player available just happens to play on the OL or DL then that's all the better.
round two - An interior offensive lineman, be it a guard or center.....a rock solid OG to go along side Peters would give us a go-to side in short yardage/goal line situations.
round 3 - any position along the defensive front 7. to me this would be a nice place to add a MLB who will fit our D.
Buffalo13
December 7th, 2006, 12:19:46 PM
Let me add to my last post by saying I would really like to see the bills trade down in the first and pick up an extra day 1 pick.
bcw
December 7th, 2006, 2:34:38 PM
In the first round I want an impact player and it seems that lb's have had an easy time ajusting in the NFL lately, especially in the cover-2. DT certainly is a need but I feel we could get more impact out of LB like Willis.
In the second round I would go o-line---but a lot depends on if we can keep Nate and where we go in FA.
Mouldsie
December 7th, 2006, 3:38:42 PM
The one game I watched Okoye closely he didnt do much and got pushed around.... it was vs WVU I think.
ddpderek
December 7th, 2006, 4:18:21 PM
1st round Paul Posluszny or Ted Ginn
2nd round FB Brian Leonard or DT Marcus Thomas Florida
3rd round Tackle Steve Vallos Wake Forst / CB Darrel Revis Pitt
I think our moves will all be determined by FA and I think its obvious that our wholes are biggest at MLB, OL, DL, and CB.
There are a bunch of wide outs that could make a strong number two like Dallas Baker, Rhema McKnight, Stuckey, Hicks.
The OL depth looks good in this draft and we better get one int he 2nd or 3rd round.
I also want to bring in a QB in bout the 4th round or 5th round and let Holcombe go. (Tate, Leak, Cupito, Stocco, Palko, Beck)
Merk
December 7th, 2006, 5:24:23 PM
He is an excellent run stopper, but Okoye does not project as much of a playmaker at the next level. He can get penetration but lacks the ability to finish plays off. He has had a lot of success at a young age, but he may need more time to mature before he becomes a factor in the NFL.http://www.footballsfuture.com/2007/prospects/amobi_okoye.html
I actually disagree w/ that statment
To me Okoye projects more as a 3 tech DT than a NT
He doesnt really hold up well at the POA and isnt to great at breaking doubles
The good thing about him is at 19 he prob isnt done growing
SC FAN
December 7th, 2006, 5:25:23 PM
1st round P Willis he is a stud and we need depth at this position. if Sam Baker OT falls to us I would be happy with that pick as well.
2nd Justin Beekman OT of BC or if Baker falls to us #1 I would love to see Branden Siler of UF LB;a surprise I would not mind that would tick off alot of Bills fans out there is Jamarcus Russell QB of LSU if he comes out
3rd Tim Duckworth OG Auburn
Merk
December 7th, 2006, 5:30:09 PM
A few possibilities:
Frank Okam
Brian Leonard
Anthony Waters
Patrick Willis
Brian Leonard
Paul Soliai
Patrick Willis
DT
Woodley/Spencer/Bazuin
Okoye
Rufus/Poz
OT
Willis
OT/DT
DT/OT
Levi Brown
DT/LB
LB/DT
pretty much all solid options that would please me.... and also wouldnt mind dealing willis for a 1st-2nd rounder either and picking someone up then signing an Ahman Green for a few years and drafting a #3 RB like Ronnie McGill
hopefully we wont ave to deal with a scenario that involves QB in round 1-2 but who knows..
Waters is an interesting name
W/ the season ending injury he had at the beginning of the year a lot of people have forgot about him but he is a heck of an LB
He is a monster against the run and is smart too. He isnt the worlds greatest pass defender but w/ his football IQ I think he could pick up our system quick
The best part about him though is how intense he is. He plays like his hair is on fire
If we could land him in the 3rd I'd be real happy about that
Merk
December 7th, 2006, 5:31:43 PM
1st round P Willis he is a stud and we need depth at this position. if Sam Baker OT falls to us I would be happy with that pick as well.
2nd Justin Beekman OT of BC or if Baker falls to us #1 I would love to see Branden Siler of UF LB;a surprise I would not mind that would tick off alot of Bills fans out there is Jamarcus Russell QB of LSU if he comes out
3rd Tim Duckworth OG Auburn
Not sure if its a typo but Beekman is a guard
I agree though he would be a nice selection in the second
emo
December 7th, 2006, 6:48:48 PM
I like yours merk I'd be thrilled with those three guys, thoughI'd also like to see jarrett instead of miller, but really its an either or
FknGvna
December 7th, 2006, 9:49:28 PM
I like yours merk I'd be thrilled with those three guys, thoughI'd also like to see jarrett instead of miller, but really its an either or
I do too but I see 1 and 3 going in the first.
Merk
December 7th, 2006, 10:24:11 PM
I like yours merk I'd be thrilled with those three guys, thoughI'd also like to see jarrett instead of miller, but really its an either or
I'd be fine w/ that
Callaway
December 8th, 2006, 7:32:35 PM
Round 1: Jarrett
Round 2: Grubbs
Round 3: Leonard
Even though Leonard wont be there in the third I had to get his name on there. I really want to see him on the Bills next year
ddpderek
December 9th, 2006, 2:03:23 PM
No one likes Paul Posluszny?
SabresFan220
December 9th, 2006, 3:54:24 PM
As long as we end up with Paul Pozslusny and Brian Leonard it won't matter where we pick them. A TE would be cool, but we've drafted a few of them lately so we likely won't go TE in an early round. But we need a LB to start filling the hole if Spikes or Fletcher walk, and a FB in the system who can block if Shelton goes down, fills those holes nicely. I'm predicting CB within the 1st 3 rounds though.
Merk
December 9th, 2006, 4:04:56 PM
As long as we end up with Paul Pozslusny and Brian Leonard it won't matter where we pick them. A TE would be cool, but we've drafted a few of them lately so we likely won't go TE in an early round. But we need a LB to start filling the hole if Spikes or Fletcher walk, and a FB in the system who can block if Shelton goes down, fills those holes nicely. I'm predicting CB within the 1st 3 rounds though.
Who?
We didnt draft one last year
The year before we drafted Everett who will be lucky to be on the team next year
The year before that we drafted Euhus and hes not on the team any more
and we didnt draft one in 2003 or 2002
We added Royal in the offseason and I like him but lets be honost hes nothing more than a blocking TE
I like your thoughts on the LB situation and Leonard
Merk
December 9th, 2006, 4:07:41 PM
No one likes Paul Posluszny?
Heres some thoughts on Poz from some other posters
http://www.buffalorange.com/showthread.php?t=95127
SweetLee8 3PlayaWha?
December 10th, 2006, 2:11:02 AM
Are there any speed rushers that will be available that I may like even if you don't?
Merk
December 10th, 2006, 10:56:18 AM
Are there any speed rushers that will be available that I may like even if you don't?
Anthony Spencer(Purdue) and Quentin Moses(Georgia) are the first 2 that come to mind. Moses was considered by some to be the top DE prospect before the season. He has been really inconsistant this year so his stock has dropped and would be there if we picked between 12-20 or he could drop even farther, his stock is largly dependent on his 40 time and what he does at the Senior Bowl. Spencer stock on the other hand has risen all year and may have move himself up into the late first early second
Some 2 rounders and beyond
-Mkristo Bruce Washington State (not much of a speed rusher but very productive)
-Brian Smith Missouri (dropped b/c of injury some had him as a first rounder)
-Justin Hickman UCLA who has been on a tear the second half of the year. If he doesnt get to the QB he still is always pressuring him
-Bruce Davis UCLA
-Dan Bazuin Central Michigan
-Abraham Wright Colorado
Callaway
December 10th, 2006, 11:20:29 AM
No one likes Paul Posluszny?
Pretty Much
Callaway
December 10th, 2006, 11:20:57 AM
Anthony Spencer(Purdue) and Quentin Moses(Georgia) are the first 2 that come to mind. Moses was considered by some to be the top DE prospect before the season. He has been really inconsistant this year so his stock has dropped and would be there if we picked between 12-20 or he could drop even farther, his stock is largly dependent on his 40 time and what he does at the Senior Bowl. Spencer stock on the other hand has risen all year and may have move himself up into the late first early second
Some 2 rounders and beyond
-Mkristo Bruce Washington State (not much of a speed rusher but very productive)
-Brian Smith Missouri (dropped b/c of injury some had him as a first rounder)
-Justin Hickman UCLA who has been on a tear the second half of the year. If he doesnt get to the QB he still is always pressuring him
-Bruce Davis UCLA
-Dan Bazuin Central Michigan
-Abraham Wright Colorado
Hickman would be a great pick up
emo
December 10th, 2006, 2:41:34 PM
Hickman would be a great pick up
I couldn't agree more, I have seen three ucla games this year and he's stood out
treydawg
December 10th, 2006, 3:42:35 PM
Hickman would be a great pick up
Yeah he dominated USC. What a choke job :rofl:
SpikedLemonade
December 10th, 2006, 4:39:49 PM
OGs, OT or DT in whatever order is fine with me -- although it seems John McCargo has been forgotten -- as long as we are drafting only BIG line men.
1968_bills_fan
December 11th, 2006, 8:27:25 AM
Earlier, I would have said that our biggest weaknesses and needs were offensive line, defensive tackle and tight end. From the last few games, I see that the TE's are getting some receiptions, the offensive line is starting to look adequate and the DT's are giving up rushing yardage but are making some plays and are short T.Anderson (injuried). So I'm not completely sure that the DT tackle position is as bad as I think. We are getting close to enough balance to be in the "best player available" mode. If we lose Clements we might need a good CB, if the LB's are getting old and worn out, we could use anothe LB..... My take: Best athlete available from the positions: OL, DT, LB and (if Nate goes) CB. If Pennington continues to look like a real player (the biggest pleasant surprise of the year), we might restrict the "OL" to the best interior lineman and not include OT in the list. If we are drafting high enough to get one of the top 3 OT's this year, we should trade this pick down and pick up an additional high 2nd round pick.
halifax
December 20th, 2006, 9:17:45 PM
I like Willis in the 1st, if he is there. I would even consider Siler, but I don't know if he will be worth picking at the Bills' spot. I see him more as a low 1st high 2nd rounder.
TRIPLE P
December 21st, 2006, 9:33:05 AM
Garrett Wolfe in the 5th
Buffalo13
December 21st, 2006, 12:35:13 PM
I'm starting to think that we could use another recieving threat to go along with Evans. What if Lee went down....would anyone be comfortable with Price, Parrish, Reed and Royal? If we move down and get more picks, I'd certainly look at reciver in the 2nd. A tall wr who we could throw the fade to in the redzone would be great. The only way I'd go wr in round one is if somehow Jarrett fell to us.
Merk
December 21st, 2006, 1:26:05 PM
Garrett Wolfe in the 5th
We dont have a 5th
TRIPLE P
December 21st, 2006, 2:23:50 PM
We dont have a 5th
We will after we trade down ;)
eyedog
December 21st, 2006, 3:09:22 PM
This winning streak has moved us down in the draft. Now I would be looking at G-Blalock, TE-Miller, LB-Willis.
Merk
December 21st, 2006, 4:36:37 PM
We will after we trade down ;)
Good Point
NoMularkey
December 21st, 2006, 4:54:06 PM
I think they need a decent reciever to go with Evans, I dont think they'll keep Price next year. Jarrett and Ginn will probably be gone, so I'd like to see Jeff Samardja from Notre Dame. He would be a great compliment to Evans, and give JP a big, tall target in the red zone. After that I'd like to see all o-line, and d-line....depending on our LB situation, if we resign Fletcher and re work TKO's deal. I think i spelled samardja wrong but I think you know who I'm talking about
TRIPLE P
December 21st, 2006, 4:56:24 PM
I think they need a decent reciever to go with Evans, I dont think they'll keep Price next year. Jarrett and Ginn will probably be gone, so I'd like to see Jeff Samardja from Notre Dame. He would be a great compliment to Evans, and give JP a big, tall target in the red zone. After that I'd like to see all o-line, and d-line....depending on our LB situation, if we resign Fletcher and re work TKO's deal. I think i spelled samardja wrong but I think you know who I'm talking about
I don't know about Samardja... I like his game and all... but he's got a lucrative baseball career on the back burner right now. Pitching for the Cubs is a much better career choice than playing WR in the NFL....
NoMularkey
December 21st, 2006, 4:59:56 PM
I don't know about Samardja... I like his game and all... but he's got a lucrative baseball career on the back burner right now. Pitching for the Cubs is a much better career choice than playing WR in the NFL....
I thought I heard that was his second choice, I'm pretty sure he is focusing on football first, and if it doesnt work he's going back to baseball
TRIPLE P
December 21st, 2006, 5:05:05 PM
I thought I heard that was his second choice, I'm pretty sure he is focusing on football first, and if it doesnt work he's going back to baseball
I hadn't heard that. Thats crazy IMO.
I don't even like baseball....but baseball player can walk when they're 45.
Merk
December 21st, 2006, 7:09:39 PM
Well given the choice I would play Baseball over football b/c you can play it for like 20 years and the bank you can make even if your only an avg MLB player is still far better than most NFL players. I would also like to be able to walk after I'm done playing :)
As far as JS there might be a chance those lingering baseball questions might drop his stock. He did say he will concentrate on football but in interviews before that he also said he would try and do both. Some teams might not want to take that risk w/ there first round pick but that would be a risk I would be willing to take w/ our 2nd round pick w/ him. He would be a very nice complament WR to Evans
FknGvna
December 21st, 2006, 7:33:00 PM
Yeah it's ridiculous the money baseball makes.
FknGvna
December 21st, 2006, 8:57:05 PM
I don't know about Samardja... I like his game and all... but he's got a lucrative baseball career on the back burner right now. Pitching for the Cubs is a much better career choice than playing WR in the NFL....
15. Buffalo Bills - Jeff Samardzija, WR, Notre Dame
The Bills are building a nice young offense, but the one thing they lack is size at receiver. Samardzija not only brings that but good hands and body control as well. http://draftshowcase.com/swmock07.htm
TRIPLE P
December 21st, 2006, 11:48:34 PM
15. Buffalo Bills - Jeff Samardzija, WR, Notre Dame
The Bills are building a nice young offense, but the one thing they lack is size at receiver. Samardzija not only brings that but good hands and body control as well. http://draftshowcase.com/swmock07.htm
I don't have a problem with Smarjdiza as a Bill....i like his game.....
But I'd want to know he was 100% commited to football first.
treydawg
December 22nd, 2006, 12:46:40 PM
Jeff is soft, kind of worries me.
Merk
December 22nd, 2006, 5:59:59 PM
Jeff is soft, kind of worries me.
Any Reason why you think that
voicekiller
December 22nd, 2006, 10:28:12 PM
I would rather see a DT or LB as our first choice. there are a lot of OT's in this draft but instead of a WR we should pick a TE in round 2 or 3. We need a player like Gates or Gonzo so JP can dump it off if possible. I would also like to see Rice from Rutgers in a Bills jersey next season to compliment Willis. Hopefully Marv can aquire more picks as well. With the current situation of the economy of Buffalo and Ralph probably not willing to spend as much since he is still upset about the revenue sharing, I dont expect us to be major players in FA.
bcw
December 23rd, 2006, 11:40:56 AM
I don't see the Bills winning any bidding wars for Free agents after his complaits about revenue sharing and how he is getting the shaft. He would look like a hypacrite to complain about money and then hand out a huge bonus. It just isn't in his nature.
SCBILLFAN1
December 27th, 2006, 3:08:28 PM
Patrick Willis,The best LB in the draft and we need LB's. He is a monster run stuffer.
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