ND, Weis, and the Boxer......

[TRIPLE P]

ND is WAY overrated this year..... why are they top 10?

Charlie Weis is a horrible coach.....horrible playcaller, and does he even know whos plays any of the positions besides QB and Wr? Why are ND fans pumped to have this guy?

Zbikowski is a horrble Safety.....why is he rated anywhere near a first day pick? He's a crappy kick returner, he can't tackle, he can't stop the run, and he can't cover...... Like I've said before, he wouldn't be on the 2-deep for Ohio State, Michigan, USC, LSU, Florida, Arkansas, etc, etc, etc.....

I felt bad for Brady Quinn last night.

[WhiteRabbit]

last night was awesome!

It was great watching Weis getting outcoached in evey facet of the game.

[TRIPLE P]

last night was awesome!

It was great watching Weis getting outcoached in evey facet of the game.


You must be pretty pumped about yesterday as a whole

[emo]

I thoguth you were supposed to go for it almost every single fourth down you encounter, I think he sent a great message to his defense, you guys can't stop them at all

[WhiteRabbit]

You must be pretty pumped about yesterday as a whole

ya know it :D

[BF_in_Indiana]

I hope USC destroys the Ohio $tate Buckeye$.

****in cheaters.

[emo]

I find is astounding that any one who roots for big time college athletics actually has the audacity to call another school cheaters

[BF_in_Indiana]

Everyone bends the rules. There are a few universities (and I use the term loosely with Ohio State) that just flat out cheat.

[emo]

Everyone bends the rules. There are a few universities (and I use the term loosely with Ohio State) that just flat out cheat.
right

[BF_in_Indiana]

right

I know I am. Glad you see things my way.

[TRIPLE P]

I hope USC destroys the Ohio $tate Buckeye$.

****in cheaters.
This is the stupidest post I've ever seen..... you want USC (reggie bush, 100K, cars, suits, hotels, salary to parents) to win because the Buckeyes are cheaters?

Beside, would you care to back up your "alegations....or is this just bitter loser talk from a fan orf a school thats sucks at everything?

[BF_in_Indiana]

USC was not involved in what happened with Reggie Bush. Hell it wasn't even a USC booster. It was an agent. So no USC didn't cheat.

Maurice Clarrett and others have outed Ohio State and just because they aren't character guys doesn't mean they are lying either. I believe them completely.

[TRIPLE P]

Maurice Clarrett and others have outed Ohio State and just because they aren't character guys doesn't mean they are lying either. I believe them completely.

So your only evidence is a guy serving a prison sentance, a drug addict, and an alcoholic?

Yes....because they aren't charecter guys does mean they're lying..... and who are these "others"

And if you want to keep talking about this, start your own thread, because this has nothing to do with ND sucking.....

Now shut your mouth and go plow a field, or whatever it is hilbillys do.

[BF_in_Indiana]

Watch it with the personal attacks pal.

You know it and everyone else knows your program cheats.

So why don't you just quit kidding yourself. Or maybe you are just proud of it? Most Ohio State fans are.

[TRIPLE P]

You know it and everyone else knows your program cheats.
.

Prove it. You keep saying it....prove it...... show me a time when Ohio State did something wrong and didn't make it right....You keep talking, but you have no case.....

What this is is jealousy, because you're a fan of a second rate program.

[NorthwesternFan]

Prove it. You keep saying it....prove it...... show me a time when Ohio State did something wrong and didn't make it right....You keep talking, but you have no case.....

What this is is jealousy, because you're a fan of a second rate program.

http://www.morningjournal.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=13642764&BRD=1699&PAG=461&dept_id=46371&rfi=6

[NorthwesternFan]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=1919059

[NorthwesternFan]

Clarett says that while he was at Ohio State in 2002 and 2003 head coach Jim Tressel, as well as certain members of his staff and boosters, provided him with improper benefits. He says he covered up Tressel's improprieties during the NCAA investigation and afterward, Ohio State "blackballed'' him from the football program.

According to Clarett, Tressel arranged loaner cars for him and Tressel's brother, Dick, found him lucrative landscaping jobs that he did not even have to show up for. He says members of Tressel's staff also introduced him to boosters who'd slip him thousands of dollars, and the better he played, the more cash he'd receive. He says boosters eventually began inviting him into their homes or would meet him out in the community.

"When you'd leave, [the booster] sets you straight," Clarett told The Magazine. "They say, 'You got any money in your pocket?' They make sure your money's straight."

[TRIPLE P]

http://www.morningjournal.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=13642764&BRD=1699&PAG=461&dept_id=46371&rfi=6

great.... so you still have no eveidence that OHIO STATE cheats.....a guy giving Troy Smith $500 isn't Ohio state cheating.....its Troy Smith making a mistake that he paid for and some guy being an *******......

The university didn't approve of these things, they didn't know about them at the time, and when they found out they handed out the proper discipline....

Ohio State, like every major university, has high profile athletes that are faced with this every day..... when they screw up Ohio State fixes the problem......

You guys have nothing.

[TRIPLE P]

Clarett says that while he was at Ohio State in 2002 and 2003 head coach Jim Tressel, as well as certain members of his staff and boosters, provided him with improper benefits. He says he covered up Tressel's improprieties during the NCAA investigation and afterward, Ohio State "blackballed'' him from the football program.

According to Clarett, Tressel arranged loaner cars for him and Tressel's brother, Dick, found him lucrative landscaping jobs that he did not even have to show up for. He says members of Tressel's staff also introduced him to boosters who'd slip him thousands of dollars, and the better he played, the more cash he'd receive. He says boosters eventually began inviting him into their homes or would meet him out in the community.

"When you'd leave, [the booster] sets you straight," Clarett told The Magazine. "They say, 'You got any money in your pocket?' They make sure your money's straight."


Ha...clarett? I dare you to use Clarett as a witness in a trial.

[TRIPLE P]

Quit Bombing My Thread With Unrealated Posts!!!!!!

Start Your Own F-uck-ing Thread If You Want To Talk About This@!!!!

Mods< Please Delete All Impertainant Posts!!!!

[NorthwesternFan]

LMAO

The whistle was blown on OSU in numerous occasions.

[BF_in_Indiana]

great.... so you still have no eveidence that OHIO STATE cheats.....a guy giving Troy Smith $500 isn't Ohio state cheating.....its Troy Smith making a mistake that he paid for and some guy being an *******......

The university didn't approve of these things, they didn't know about them at the time, and when they found out they handed out the proper discipline....

Ohio State, like every major university, has high profile athletes that are faced with this every day..... when they screw up Ohio State fixes the problem......

You guys have nothing.

Jim Tressel setting up Maurice is certainly a University violation.

Face it. Ohio State has a long history of cheating. Their basketball team is very notorious as well. The NCAA just keeps slapping them on the wrist because of the money they bring in. It's that simple.

[mighty peace warrior]

WXP it doesnt matter what he posts, he can not defend his pathetic football team so he is trying to attack OSU on character.

Its probably getting old rooting for a program that hasnt been relevant in about twenty years.

[BF_in_Indiana]

My disdain for Ohio State has nothing to do with Notre Dame at all. It's based on my growing disgust with college sports and teams like Ohio State who are nothing more than NFL prep schools.

I hate USC but I'll be cheering for them like they were my own team to beat Ohio $tate.

[Callaway]

The one thing I must say I find odd about this message board is the obsession some of the Ohio State fans have w/ N.D. I mean the 2 schools are not even rivals on the field. I have friends that are fans of both of the schools and they could really care less about the other team

Someone want to fill me on this

[mighty peace warrior]

Notre Dame fans talked a lot of shit before the bowl game last year. There is no obssesion. Notre Dame is not in the same class as OSU in football. The media is obsessed with Notre Dame

[Callaway]

Notre Dame fans talked a lot of shit before the bowl game last year. There is no obssesion. Notre Dame is in the same class as OSU in football. The media is obsessed with Notre Dame



That right there is a given. Coming from a team that is a rival to them I've come to the realization that no matter what ND will be the media darlings. The team is a cash cow and will always get favortism. Watch them get to play in the Rose Bowl against Mich even though there will be 6 other teams more deserving of it

[BF_in_Indiana]

It's called the richest tradition in college football. 11 National Titles, 7 Heisman winners, and countless All Americans. Ohio State falls short in all of those categories in comparison.

And once the Irish have a chance to recruit a little more defense the media will have a reason to talk about Notre Dame because they will be winning National Titles like they are going out of style with Charlie at the helm.

[TRIPLE P]

And once the Irish have a chance to recruit a little more defense the media will have a reason to talk about Notre Dame because they will be winning National Titles like they are going out of style with Charlie at the helm.

Bwahahahahahahaha!

Charlie Weis has been outcoached in every big game he's played......

Charlie Weis is a horrible coach.

Chance to recruit some defense? Tell why, exactly, a kid picking schools is gonna choose Notre Dame...a team that gets embarassed by relevant schools on national TV AT LEAST twice a year.....over a school like Ohio state, Michigan, USC, Florida, LSU, etc,etc......

Because of Charlie Weis..... possibly the worst gameday coach I;ve ever seen and a self-proclaimed jerk? Nope...sorry....

[BF_in_Indiana]

Bwahahahahahahaha!

Charlie Weis has been outcoached in every big game he's played......

Charlie Weis is a horrible coach.

Chance to recruit some defense? Tell why, exactly, a kid picking schools is gonna choose Notre Dame...a team that gets embarassed by relevant schools on national TV AT LEAST twice a year.....over a school like Ohio state, Michigan, USC, Florida, LSU, etc,etc......

Because of Charlie Weis..... possibly the worst gameday coach I;ve ever seen and a self-proclaimed jerk? Nope...sorry....

What would you classify as a "big game"? I can think of 5 of them they have had so far.

17-10 win over Michigan
34-31 loss to USC
34-20 loss to Ohio State
47-21 loss to Michigan
44-24 loss to USC

The 34-31 loss to USC should have been a win if the refs knew how to spot a football. The two losses this year and the loss to Ohio $tate in the Fiesta Bowl are no fault of Charlies. It's called a lack of athletes on defense. People that actually know the game understand this to be the case. Of course I wouldn't confuse people that know the game with anyone that roots for Cheater U.

[TRIPLE P]

What would you classify as a "big game"? I can think of 5 of them they have had so far.

17-10 win over Michigan
34-31 loss to USC
34-20 loss to Ohio State
47-21 loss to Michigan
44-24 loss to USC




Yup....that does wonders for recruiting.

Keep it coming though.... I love reading the jealousy in your posts......

Its gonna be nice playing for yet another national title this year......while ND lives off an overblown reputation and a big TV contract......

[emo]

It's called the richest tradition in college football. 11 National Titles, 7 Heisman winners, and countless All Americans. Ohio State falls short in all of those categories in comparison.

And once the Irish have a chance to recruit a little more defense the media will have a reason to talk about Notre Dame because they will be winning National Titles like they are going out of style with Charlie at the helm.

a few things pop into my head

nd graduated tony rice and he couldn't read, congrats on that ND cares about its student athletes

nd has 7 different heisman winners, osu has 5 BUT osu has the only back to back heisman winner and has 6 heisman trophies about to be 7

excellent tradition


here is another ND tradition 9 straight bowl losses

nd has 8 national championships before 1950, and 3 since

[TRIPLE P]

a few things pop into my head

nd graduated tony rice and he couldn't read, congrats on that ND cares about its student athletes

nd has 7 different heisman winners, osu has 5 BUT osu has the only back to back heisman winner and has 6 heisman trophies about to be 7

excellent tradition


here is another ND tradition 9 straight bowl losses

nd has 8 national championships before 1950, and 3 since

MPW is right man, don't bother.....

ND has a shot at the big boys last year....we know how that went.... so then we sent our bitches to south bend this year, and they laid a beating on them too.....

[BF_in_Indiana]

Yup....that does wonders for recruiting.

Keep it coming though.... I love reading the jealousy in your posts......

Its gonna be nice playing for yet another national title this year......while ND lives off an overblown reputation and a big TV contract......

It must be that none of the kids in our top 5 '07 class have televisions then huh?

HAHAHA

[BF_in_Indiana]

Its gonna be nice playing for yet another national title this year....

And maybe this time you'll actually win it instead of having the refs hand it to you with the biggest bs call in college sports in the last 20 years.

[TRIPLE P]

It must be that none of the kids in our top 5 '07 class have televisions then huh?

HAHAHA

Notre Dame doesn't have a top 5 recuiting class.

[BF_in_Indiana]

Notre Dame doesn't have a top 5 recuiting class.

End of discussion. I can't go any further with someone who can't even acknowledge that Notre Dame has a top 5 class according to most major outlets.

[emo]

rivals.com has you at 12

[BF_in_Indiana]

And Rivals.com is the only media source in the country? I don't think so.

[emo]

as of right now for 2007 yes, ********** hasn't posted their rankings yet

psu is 18th

[mighty peace warrior]

End of discussion. I can't go any further with someone who can't even acknowledge that Notre Dame has a top 5 class according to most major outlets.

perhaps you can give us some examples, other than gold dome polishers weekly?