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Scott Vaughn
March 10th, 2002, 11:55:47 AM
I really enjoy this site and the message boards but can we please keep the RJ bashing and arguing of this board?
Maybe start a new board for the RJ bashers to vent?
I am just sick of reading all the negative comments about him, he is gone so why can't we just move on?
I must have read "RJ sucks" on this board 200 times in the last month.
It is like a 16 year old bitching about an ex girlfriend.
Grow up people, your "cancer" is gone. Find something else to complain about.

BillsNYC
March 10th, 2002, 12:08:22 PM
BECAUSE ITS THE MIDDLE OF THE OFFSEASON AND THERE IS NOTHING ELSE TO TALK ABOUT!!!!!!!!

BillsNYC
March 10th, 2002, 12:10:18 PM
I THINK WE ALL JUST HAVE TO SUCK IT UP UNTIL CAMP BEGINS BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH WE CAN TALK ABOUT NOW. I GUARENTEE THAT WHEN FOOTBALL GETS GOING RJ AND FLUTIE WILL BE A THING OF THE PAST..BUT FOR NOW...THATS ABOUT THE ONLY WAY TO VENT ABOUT LAST SEASON.

field general
March 10th, 2002, 12:12:44 PM
Well, what can we talk about. Since you want to make our decisions for us by going to the editors with your post, why don't you tell everybody what you will allow us to talk about

March 10th, 2002, 12:14:35 PM
Scott-

our approach is to let anyone speak their mind- whether it is pro RJ, Pro Management, Pro Flutie- or Anti- whomever. As long as everyone remains civil to each other we will not censure any views.
We have actually been accused of trying to slant, delete, or edit points of view. We do not- we only tinker if violations of the Terms Of Service (TOS) occur.
RJ and Flutie are now gone. Once the Bills get a QB and the draft is over, they will be distant memories. RJ is now a Tampa Bay Buc, in your neck of the woods. I wish him luck in his new endeavor.

BillsNYC
March 10th, 2002, 12:25:03 PM
Originally posted by Dozerdog
Scott-

our approach is to let anyone speak their mind- whether it is pro RJ, Pro Management, Pro Flutie- or Anti- whomever. As long as everyone remains civil to each other we will not censure any views.
We have actually been accused of trying to slant, delete, or edit points of view. We do not- we only tinker if violations of the Terms Of Service (TOS) occur.
RJ and Flutie are now gone. Once the Bills get a QB and the draft is over, they will be distant memories. RJ is now a Tampa Bay Buc, in your neck of the woods. I wish him luck in his new endeavor.

VERY WELL SAID DOZER....HEY..THEY SHOULD GIVE YOU A JOB HERE....HAHA!!!!

March 10th, 2002, 12:32:58 PM
My advice- Don't respond to RJ/Flutie threads-

They will sink on these boards and dissapear

March 10th, 2002, 12:34:49 PM
I hear ya there Scott! What's even more annoying, :D, is that those starting the RJ threads blame people like me and a few others who have supported RJ in the past for starting them when in fact I've not and from what I've seen, RJ's top 6 other supporters have not either.

But Dozer Dog is right. As long as people vent and "discuss" in a relatively civil fashion, then that's what these boards are for.

Unfortunately, I have to disagree w/ NYC;

"I GUARENTEE THAT WHEN FOOTBALL GETS GOING RJ AND FLUTIE WILL BE A THING OF THE PAST"

I think it's gonna heat up 2 or 3 fold when the season begins. ESPECIALLY if whoever our QB is does not do that well. I am expecting Rob to be just fine in a situation where he doesn't have the emotional baggage to distract him and where he now has a better OL than he's had ANY of the years that he was here. Plus, not to mention a better WR and a better coach too, GW's effectiveness notwithstanding, to date.

I tell ya though, and I fully agree w/ ya here, is that it's peculiarly puzzling that the people who hated him the most and wanted him out of here vehemently, AND the ones who said that they were tired of hearing about him and couldn't wait until he was gone, are the same ones who continue to bring them up.

I'm more or less just sitting by watching the whole thing in amazement. I'll comment on our situation in relation, but quite frankly, I don't care anymore either. The man's gone and isn't going to do anything either for or against the Bills until we play T.B., which isn't this year as far as I can remember.

Anyway, sit back, relax, and enjoy the show. I find it fascinating.

But as long as peeps here adhere to our ToS, there're no problems. And I must also disagree that there's nothing else to talk about. I think there's all kinds of NFL stuff.

;)

March 10th, 2002, 12:36:45 PM
"Editors..."

You make us sound professional or something...

LOL

March 10th, 2002, 3:19:51 PM
bg,

GREAT idea on the forum...

"Scott - we share your pain, lol. It's funny, this time last year, you could've substituted Flutie for RJ in your sentence, because that's all that was talked about here: a hatred of Flutie."

What's ironic is that it was the FFs BOTH times that have kept it goin'! Last year, myself and a few others PLEADED REPEATEDLY for the FFs to stop already w/ the "We'll be sorry's" and the "He's 3-0 and gonna take the Chargers to the big dance!"

Well, some of us knew a little better and accurately saw through the fan and media smokescreen of the past few years and actually looked at Flutie's performances and considered which teams they were against. We argued and again, PLEADED, for them and with them to desist and quit w/ the "pro-Flutie" banter SINCE HE WAS GONE, or we would reciprocate if and when Flutie's true colors began to show again! (Just as RJ IS GONE NOW!!!) Which of course they did and which anyone seeing the entire situation objectively could have easily seen w/o much difficulty. The difficulty for Bills fans was just that, looking at it objectively, and w/o all the enamorment that wasn't football play related.

Nonetheless, sure, a handful of us continued the Flutie-bashing, but NO ONE can say that it was w/o any warning, and those that were in disdain for our warning were very "in-your-face" about it. Also, there were MANY more of them than there were of us who simply made good on a promise. ;)

THEN, when what I and a few others said what would happen unfolded w/ uncanny accuracy and in the most predicted details, THEN, these same people, who are now sustaining all these "RJ" threads, started complaining the most, ala the playground bully who revels in beating up others and then whines like a puss when he's bested. :winksmile LOL

Nevertheless, I simply wanted to point out that many of us who supported Rob, no longer do so and that it's the FF contingent, STILL, that is resurecting this junk time-and-time again.

Just to clear the air! In the meantime, NEITHER are Bills, and I'm fine w/ bashing. But when it consumes certain posters and sets the OVERALL tones on the boards, it does create an aire of annoyance when it's like the "tasmanian devil" running around your ankles hindering your motion and simply being a "fly-in-the-ointment!" Not b/c of WHAT they are saying, but b/c of the frequency w/ which it's being said. We ALL get the point! REALLY! FFs and some others REALLY HATED RJ! We FULLY understand! It REALLY couldn't be made ANY more clear!

YES!!! RJ/Flutie Smackdown board once again so that the rest of us who frankly don't give a rip about RJ OR DF can simply move on and start considering what the CURRENT team is doing and what our CURRENT FA and draft options are!

GO BILLS!!!

shiva2999
March 10th, 2002, 4:24:58 PM
RJ SUCKS!, RJ SUCKS!, RJ SUCKS!, over and over. It's all I can remember reading here forever, RJ SUCKS! You'd think people would get tired of saying RJ SUCKS! After all, RJ SUCKS! is hardly incisive football analysis. Everybody knows that RJ SUCKS!. So telling us RJ SUCKS! isn't telling us anything new.

Be original. Try to move beyond just saying RJ SUCKS! to a new and different way of saying RJ SUCKS!

Or else the people who don't like hearing RJ SUCKS! will banish RJ SUCKS! threads to an RJ SUCKS! ghetto, and we will never be allowed to point out RJ SUCKS! on the main board again.

field general
March 10th, 2002, 4:27:36 PM
Well, it is a message board. If people want to post, let them and I heard the mods say that to be true. Personally, I'm sick of the topic myself, however, wyswings is a perfect example with his post why it doesn't end. His answer to the poster goes into a defense of RJ. Why. Then you rip Flutie, then you rip the posters. Then you try to dismiss the whole debate as beneath your intellectual interest. Well, seems like a little hypocrisy there

March 10th, 2002, 4:37:34 PM
Actually fg,

I don't think you actually READ my post!

There was NOT ONE shred of ANYTHING in there in defense of RJ!!!


NOTHING!!!

Hello!!! I can't stand LIES! Especially when they're told about me and my posts!

Now PLEASE!! If you feel impelled to make comments about the content of my posts, PLEASE, again, PLEASE, have the decency and the courtesy of citing me CORRECTLY!!!

ACTUALLY, since you can't read apparently (sorry, I just don't know what else to assume), I SAID:

"Nevertheless, I simply wanted to point out that many of us who supported Rob, no longer do so..."

THANKS!!!

:-]

March 10th, 2002, 4:38:22 PM
If you think there was ANYTHING in that post defending RJ either cite it, or quit saying things that I didn't say!

Thanks! And I will do the same for you!

March 10th, 2002, 4:42:57 PM
For the record, by comparison I've been relatively quiet about RJ since his being cut.

shiva2999
March 10th, 2002, 4:47:17 PM
"I am expecting Rob to be just fine in a situation where he doesn't have the emotional baggage to distract him and where he now has a better OL than he's had ANY of the years that he was here. Plus, not to mention a better WR and a better coach too, GW's effectiveness notwithstanding, to date." - wys



"Actually fg,

I don't think you actually READ my post!

There was NOT ONE shred of ANYTHING in there in defense of RJ!!!


NOTHING!!! " - wys



Huh? - shiva

RSerafin
March 10th, 2002, 4:50:02 PM
Originally posted by wyswings
For the record, by comparison I've been relatively quiet about RJ since his being cut.

Now there's an oxymoron! lol

March 10th, 2002, 4:51:01 PM
Originally posted by wyswings
For the record, by comparison I've been relatively quiet about RJ since his being cut.

Yeah, you've limited your posts to 500 words or less!:blue:

field general
March 10th, 2002, 4:53:50 PM
Be glad to Wyswings. It was implied in your post about your warning people about Flutie, thus when you were proved right... Therefore RJ should have been the QB all along. You also defended RJ when you stated he would do just fine when he has a better everything when he gets with his new team. Thus it wasn't RJ fault. You even blamed the fans for his problems. So, to get back to the point, don't blame people for responding to RJ apologists and then telling us to be quiet.

field general
March 10th, 2002, 5:08:57 PM
I'm sorry, I tried to be respectful about it. Explain where I misspoke and I would be glad to take it back. In fact, I didn't respond disrespectfully when I was told I couldn't read. I just answered his challenge. Is that a problem.

field general
March 10th, 2002, 5:12:49 PM
Oh, I was told I lied about his post as well. Didn't respond to that either.

billsrebound2002
March 10th, 2002, 7:26:21 PM
Originally posted by Scott Vaughn
I really enjoy this site and the message boards but can we please keep the RJ bashing and arguing of this board?
Maybe start a new board for the RJ bashers to vent?
I am just sick of reading all the negative comments about him, he is gone so why can't we just move on?
I must have read "RJ sucks" on this board 200 times in the last month.
It is like a 16 year old bitching about an ex girlfriend.
Grow up people, your "cancer" is gone. Find something else to complain about.



It's called FREE SPEECH!

If they started censoring people's opinions this board would die!

If you don't like reading RJ bashing threads let me give you advice...........Don't read them!


One final thought...............RJ SUCKS! :shine:

billsrebound2002
March 10th, 2002, 7:35:12 PM
Originally posted by wyswings
If you think there was ANYTHING in that post defending RJ either cite it, or quit saying things that I didn't say!

Thanks! And I will do the same for you!


He probably just assumed the post was defending RJ because most of your posts do WYS!


No offense but I just skip over most your post's because they are to damn long!

shiva2999
March 10th, 2002, 7:45:18 PM
"f. general: I was referring to the italicized part in the statement above. It's all well and good to respond to RJ apologists, (whatever those are), but little of it has been reserved or civil from we have seen on these boards." - bgreen



I hesitate to mention it for fear of causing offense, but I suspect that the enthusiasm of the upstanding, godfearing, good men and women of this board toward the potential of Robert Johnson as an NFL quarterback is ever so slightly misguided.

March 10th, 2002, 8:10:31 PM
Sorry shiva,

It's called an opinion on how I think he will do in T.B. Other than in one other spot, I don't really believe I've said too much about RJ!

I'm sorry that you seem to think that I'm not entitled to a passing opinion! I wasn't defending Rob. Besides, if THAT was a defense, I could have done MUCH better. He's gone! Don't care about him anymore.

I'll be happy if a QB that we have does well! Right now, I, and I'm sure quite a few other Bills fans are skeptical considering that we have NO proven talent at the position. Not even as to starter. VP got knocked out after 8 games in his first decent string of games. He may very well be injury prone too.

There's WAY too many unknowns about our stable of QBs!


'02,

That's fine. Your choice, I assume that you won't say things about me that aren't true then, eh. And you haven't so there's no issue.


Rob's gone!!

I just thought you all might like to know! Oh, sorry! I did it again. I 'defended' Rob by saying 'he's gone.'

SO SORRY!

:rolleyes:

field general
March 10th, 2002, 8:20:23 PM
Bgreen63, I still don't understand what your talking about I was told I couldn't read and I was a liar. Where is your outrage there. I was respectful in my posts and I never even brought up the merits or demerits of RJ untill Wyswings brought it up out of context. Now, your comments and wyswings were directed toward me. I made a point. You two seem to be trying to bully me. Now, your moderators, fine. So, do as you please. But be evenhanded or I respond in kind.

March 10th, 2002, 9:07:45 PM
fg,

Look, no hard feelings. But if every single time that the words RJ (or any variation of it for fear of confusion) come out of my mouth, you deem it as "defending Rob", then we're all gonna have a tough time on these boards.

The bottom line is that there WERE a handful of peeps that defended Rob while he was here. I among them. OK. BUT, and since his RELEASE, WE've been accused of continuing to fester ther support and arguments favoring Rob, when IN FACT I can't think of anyone except for this new marks guy who has in fact done that.

Some of us are gettin' a little tired of being blamed for sh** that we don't start and it certainly does not help for you to add to it.

If you felt that I was defending Rob, then SIMPLY C&P the piece where you think I was defending him and we can take it from there. But the TRUTH of the matter is that I didn't! OK. Simply stating an opinion in the context of an argument, having nothing to do w/ Rob OH BTW, is NOT defending him.

So my only advice is that if you are going to be all that sensitive, then perhaps you had simply better ensure that what you post is accurate. B/c as far as I went, you did not post accurately about me. That's all.

Now, I apologize if this has caused you any heartache. I really enjoy all the differing opinions. But I also know and realize that myself and a few of the other guys/posters who defended Rob prior to his release, and have had NOTHING to do with furthering the RJ talk on these boards, are getting a little miffed about being responsible for doing so. If you can't understand that, then I just don't know what to say. It's not just you BTW.

Anyway, you were wrong in what you said about me. All is forgiven however. But please, don't try to justify saying things that I said that in fact I NEVER said. What is the issue in that.

If you would like to continue this discussion, please take it OFF the boards and conduct it via e-mail w/ ANY of the admin or mods including myself.

If you think that you were not wrong in any of that, then just give us the go ahead to start posting incorrect things about you and see how you like it. Obviously we wouldn't do that here, so it's just for you to mull over. But I cannot understand why it is that you are puzzled when I get miffed b/c you misquote and misconstrue, drastically, what I post.

Again, apologies! But please, let's let bygones be bygones. I have absolutely no hostile feelings towards you at all. Really. But just don't do that again please.

Shoot me or one of us a note if you would like to.

Thanks!!

shiva2999
March 10th, 2002, 9:09:55 PM
Just my opinion, but I think RJ will do better in Tampa because in Buffalo it was the o-line, wide receivers' and coaches fault.

March 10th, 2002, 9:12:14 PM
P.S.

Many of us are NOT getting bothered by the anti-RJ talk inasmuch as it is anti-RJ. Rather, it is the incessant frequency of it combined w/ the absolutely immaterialness to our team, the Bills that is bothering some.

If Rob were on the team then fine! But he isn't! So why? Why have every third or fourth thread be about Rob and how he sucks. Is THIS news? That he sucks? I don't think so.

I think it's been known for a while. To hear it over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over...

Well, you get the point.

Anyway, thanks...

field general
March 10th, 2002, 9:14:31 PM
I'm not sensitive at all. You attacked me and then you try to tell me what I said and you said. It's in the post. You want to drop it, drop it. But don't think your going to try and bitch slap me and then tell me to shut up. I accept your apoogies

March 10th, 2002, 9:15:08 PM
shiva,

so you think that GW is better than Gruden then?

Bills OL is better (last years too) than T.B.'s?

That Moulds is better than KJ?

Just curious, b/c that is essentially what you are saying!

I think a whole slew of people would differ w/ you on all of those points except for possibly a split on Moulds/KJ.

Again, sorry for expressing my opinions. Maybe these boards aren't good for your health.

:D

March 10th, 2002, 9:19:01 PM
Let's get it straight there fg!

I didn't know you from Adam until you posted, IN YOUR FIRST POST IN THIS THREAD, the following:

"Personally, I'm sick of the topic myself, however, wyswings is a perfect example with his post why it doesn't end. His answer to the poster goes into a defense of RJ. Why. Then you rip Flutie, then you rip the posters. Then you try to dismiss the whole debate as beneath your intellectual interest. Well, seems like a little hypocrisy there"

Yeah! That's ME attacking YOU!

Again, PLEASE take this off the boards!!! E-mail ANY admin or mod that you wish including me if you would settle your arguments face-to-face. But so far all I see is more "inaccuracies" coming from you.

This isn't Stalin's Russia where "the more times you tell a lie the more it becomes the truth!"

Nice try however!

shiva2999
March 10th, 2002, 9:27:36 PM
"P.S.

Many of us are NOT getting bothered by the anti-RJ talk inasmuch as it is anti-RJ. Rather, it is the incessant frequency of it combined w/ the absolutely immaterialness to our team, the Bills that is bothering some." - wys



May I remind you of the hundreds of threads you've started and the thousands of posts you've made bashing Doug Flutie since he became an ex-Bill?

And the countless times you've labelled people that disagreed with you as Flutie Flakes without either naming them or cutting and pasting their posts to discuss exactly what you disagreed with?

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

Definition of chutzpah: Someone who murders their parents and then asks for leniency on the grounds they're an orphan.

March 10th, 2002, 9:34:48 PM
shiva,

Give it a rest!

For HOW MANY months prior to posting negatively about Flutie did I ask those who wouldn't let us forget the little whiner to do the same ONLY to be scoffed at!?

About what? 8-10? Until it couldn't have been clearer that ALL those who said he was "all that" were totally wrong!

So please, give it a rest, would ya!

Un-Believeable!!!

By the way; if those SAME people, the SAME ones from what I can see for the most part are the ones that can't seem to stop talking about Rob now that he's a Buc, hadn't made every other thread about Flutie to begin with then I and the others NEVER would have done that. And JUST LIKE NOW, we asked them to cease and desist b/c Flutie wasn't a Bill any longer!

But NOOOOOOOO!!! They HAD to continue! So again, let's look at this in context, would ya!

Give me a BREAK!!! j

GET OFF MY BACK TOO! THIS MONKEY'S GETTIN' HEAVY!

March 10th, 2002, 9:36:29 PM
fg,

I sent you an e-mail but it came back to me as undeliverable.

Please send me one if you would. Thanks.

wyswings@mindspring.com

shiva2999
March 10th, 2002, 9:38:13 PM
"For HOW MANY months prior to posting negatively about Flutie did I ask those who wouldn't let us forget the little whiner to do the same ONLY to be scoffed at!?" - wys



Asked us? I thought you warned us.

shiva2999
March 10th, 2002, 9:46:02 PM
"For HOW MANY months prior to posting negatively about Flutie did I ask those who wouldn't let us forget the little whiner to do the same ONLY to be scoffed at!?" - wys



Gee, I guess I haven't been here long enough. Since I decided to join this merry bunch of maniacs back in September hardly a day's gone by without you trying to rip Flutie a new assh*le.

You went months without "posting negatively about Flutie"? Seriously? When? 1997?

RSerafin
March 10th, 2002, 9:59:30 PM
Play nice kids or no ice cream for you!

billsrebound2002
March 10th, 2002, 10:41:48 PM
Originally posted by wyswings


02,

That's fine. Your choice, I assume that you won't say things about me that aren't true then, eh. And you haven't so there's no issue.


I won't say anything about anyone that is not true!

billsrebound2002
March 10th, 2002, 10:44:36 PM
I really think if RJ defenders would stop starting threads defending him this would all die. Now that he has signed with his new team this will probably die off! We won't even discuss it next season because he will be buried at #3 on Tampas depth chart!
Go Bills! Screw RJ and FLutie!

March 11th, 2002, 12:55:46 AM
I gotta agree with something...isn't it ironic that Wys and jeffblue and other who bashed Flutie last year, like mad are now telling us to stop bashing RJ, because he's not on the team? Well, guess what? Flutie was NOT on the team either and I remember a bunch of you comparing his stats every week and really rubbing it in good and calling the fans of him, Flakes, Flutie Flakes, and hell even the mullet pictures that were put up on the board!!! Why can't we have our fun now and bash RJ the same way? hmmm. How ironic! :D

March 11th, 2002, 1:22:00 AM
'02,

"I really think if RJ defenders would stop starting threads defending him this would all die."

I'm gonna call you on that! Other than by marks, can you find ALL the threads STARTED by ANY RJ defender SINCE his release!

Please, have at it! I KNOW you can't find one by me and I've taken heat for starting several of them!!

So please, back up your suggestion and simply name the thread that was STARTED in "defense of RJ" by his 'former supporters' SINCE he left the team!

March 11th, 2002, 1:27:11 AM
Mike,

You don't happen to remember me and a WHOLE bunch of other Rob supporters BEGGING and PLEADING until about 10 weeks into the season for the FFs (Flutie Fanatics BTW, not Freaks) to STOP bringing Flutie up on every other thread talking about how sorry we were gonna be and STILL bashing Rob, our CURRENT QB then on top of it all?!!

Do you remember THAT too, or are you suffering from selective memory loss. BTW, you are one of those FFs but just haven't openly admitted it. So tell us, why do you all get so emotional w/ his mention or Rob's?

You've got it WRONG! We were NOT the ones that kept the Flutie thing alive for the first two-thirds of the season. We're also NOT the ones keeping the inordinate bashing of Rob alive either. Frankly, it's turning these boards into an undesireably place. IMO.

Now that Rob's gone, me, who supported him for years, couldn't give a ****! So why is it that all those who supported Flutie, and now are endlessly bashing Rob, which is fine BTW, just not every third thread, just can't seem to get over the fact that neither are here any longer.

I'd pay $100 to get a valid answer to that question!

March 11th, 2002, 1:31:20 AM
I just think its hilarious that neither side won! The jury is back and both Rob Johnson AND Doug Flutie are Guilty of sucking up the joint and neither of them are good! Good riddance to both of them, and now i'm done. Come on TD, Bring in the next star QB of the Buffalo Bills, Joe Harrington! :thumb:

March 11th, 2002, 1:36:34 AM
And you Rob nuts did bash Flutie and started all the threads right after he was cut and did it for the whole offseason or at least until the draft. That's all that will happen here, because all the crazy traitor Flutopians are now with the Chargers and were NEVER bills fans!

March 11th, 2002, 2:04:04 AM
Also Mike,

My opinion is one that still can be validated. Namely that Rob will do very well in Tampa. Much like last year, when many of us asked nicely, PLEADED, BEGGED the FFs to cease and desist, and yet they didn't, so we responded with simple validations of what those of us already knew. I won't repeat those notions due to the sensitive nature of this thread.

But my point is this! I'm not gonna say jack **** about RJ all year. But if I have to listen, week in and week out again, about how badly he sucks to the point where it becomes a major nuisance, and if the QBs we have don't pan out, then I may very well start hammering again about how people here weren't patient enough.

I know, I know, just like last year, I don't know what I'm talking about and it'll never happen. If I had a buck from everyone who said the exact same thing last year... Anyway, I would really hate for that to happen. But by Jove, if that's the way it has to unfold, then that may simply be the way it has to unfold.

BUT, and NOT UNLIKE LAST YEAR, it will be you and the other FFs/RJ-haters, basically the same thing, that will determine whether or not that happens. I have no problem saying nothing if that's the way it comes to pass and I sure, more than anyone hope it doesn't. I hope Brown is an animal or the guy we draft turns into something late in the year or we grab someone decent in FAcy. But in the absence of that, I'll be happy to "remind everyone" for months just like I did last year.

So again, obviously this will continue, but if emotions don't die down on this issue to the point where it continues to be an obsession for some, then I'll sure be happy to oblige again and I'm sure I'll have company if it comes to that.

THAT is the EXACT same thing we offered last year. The choice was made by those whom you are NOT blaming. NOT us. So please realize, the circumstances are the same, and the topic of the threads later on in the year may very well be determined by people like you who post threads supporting Flutie and by others bashing Rob to the point where it's a "broken record."

You're what, 19, do you even know what a broken record is? LOL

Anyway, I hope that clears things up for ya. I have absolutely no desire to discuss Rob, either pro or con. I understand the disgust and the glee over our riddance of him. What I don't understand is the emotional investment by former FFs in hating Rob so much. He's gone! That SHOULD be a good thing! Right? Apparenty it's not enough to satisfy them.

It was enough to satisfy me when Flutie left! What kept us goin' was the incessant "Flutie is god" and "We'll be sorry" threads for half a season after he left. Yet you ain't hearin' much of that from me or most of the others who were Rob's biggest supporters, are you, in spite of who you say is starting the threads!

;)

March 11th, 2002, 2:07:26 AM
Just don't bring Blake. His credentials suggest nothing more than mediocrity on a good day.

March 11th, 2002, 3:45:39 AM
Bring Harrington! ;)

Scott Vaughn
March 11th, 2002, 7:19:01 AM
My intention was not to violate the 1st amendment rights of the RJ bashers. All I suggested is that it be moved to a seperate board. Obviously some of you take your RJ bashing more seriously then I ever imagined.
So, I will shut up and check back with BBI in a few months when you people are ready to talk football rather than bitch about RJ's hometown, clothes, hobbies etc.

March 11th, 2002, 8:58:49 AM
AMEN Scott!

field general
March 11th, 2002, 3:12:50 PM
Well, my comment was based on Scotts 1st thread. You RJ people and moderators are the ones who turned it up. Bgreen, I don't know what your talkin about. As far as I could see, Shiva didn't say anything against what I was saying. All I said after my original reply to Scott was wyswings was sounding a little hypocritical. Now, to much heat for you. Tough. I was attacked as being a liar and someone who couldn't read. I still didn't bite. My suggestion is with the kind of defense you and the wing buddy put up for each other you should be playing for the Bills. It's a little leaky

field general
March 11th, 2002, 3:31:59 PM
One last point wyswings, you keep going on about FF like our mission is to discredit RJ because we love DF. Change that tune will you. I've never mentioned DF and it wasn't part of any of this to you brought it up. I don't give a rats ass about DF, RJ OR how any of you feel about any subject. I see a posting, I comment, maybe have a little conversation, maybe disagree and move on. And I don't answer in 90 paragraph answers and repeat everything in the exact words of a former commentary. I don't need to. And I'm not going to be taken to any woodshed by any of you.

billsfanone
March 11th, 2002, 3:35:57 PM
Scott,

There are only a few that continually exhaust the subject - on both sides of the debate. Please don't judge the entire BBI audience based on the actions of a few.

I’m beginning to feel it’s an obsession to some. If is wasn't they wouldn't be compelled to write so much about it.

billsfanone
March 11th, 2002, 3:38:02 PM
Field general,

I couldn't agree with you more.

field general
March 11th, 2002, 5:15:42 PM
Fine bgreen. I appreciate your clarification. Thank you.

shiva2999
March 11th, 2002, 11:22:30 PM
"ACTUALLY, since you can't read apparently (sorry, I just don't know what else to assume)," - wys



I have never or would ever resort to personal insults of this type when referring to anyone who posts on these boards.

They are lame and childish.

What I object to?

Hypocrisy n. assuming of a false appearance of virtue; insincerety [G. hypokrisis, acting a part] - Webster's New Dictionary

A perfect example is the very first post. If Scott Vaughn had resisted the urge to type the last line, his plea for unity could have been taken at face value.

But he just couldn't resist the tired old "cancer" accusation.

Thus turning his position into the term defined above.



Oh, and I see wys is warning us again of what he'll do if we don't obey.