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Meathead
November 9th, 2006, 12:19:07 PM
As party purges begin, top members in the recrimination mode (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15628775/from/RS.3/)

By Michael Grunwald
Updated: 2 hours, 40 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - After minutes upon minutes of soul-searching (lol i love that line), Republicans are now in recrimination mode. And the GOP's various factions all agree: This wouldn't have happened if the party had listened to us.

In the aftermath of the historic GOP losses Tuesday night, moderate Republicans quickly concluded that the party needs to be more moderate. Conservative Republicans declared that it should be more conservative. Main Street is angry at Wall Street, theo-cons are angry at neo-cons, and almost everyone is angry at President Bush and the GOP congressional leadership.

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"We ought to just mend our wounds, bury our dead, learn from our mistakes and move on," said GOP lobbyist Ed Rogers. "But first we're going to have go through this. Look, bad policy and bad politics makes for bad elections."

Lost its way?

The common theme of the Recriminatathon is that the party lost its way after seizing control of Congress in 1994, focusing on power and perks instead of principles. But behind all the maneuvering, posturing and backstabbing lingered a serious debate over the party's future, and what those principles should be. It's a familiar argument between confrontation and compromise: appealing to base voters on the right or independents in the middle.

The moderate Republican Main Street Partnership fired its first salvo on election night, unleashing a news release titled "Far Right Solely Responsible for Democratic Gains." Sarah Chamberlain Resnick, the partnership's director, complained that GOP leaders had rejected popular causes such as the minimum wage, embryonic stem cell research and lobbying reforms while ignoring health-care issues that did not involve Terri Schiavo. The result, she said, was that moderate suburban voters saw Republicans as extremists.

"This election isn't a repudiation of the GOP," Chamberlain said. "It's a repudiation of a handful of zealots (that were allowed to dominate because they were winning), and a reminder that you can't build a majority party without securing the middle of the American electorate."

That wasn't the conclusion the right drew from Tuesday's losses. The main theme on GOP conference calls and the conservative blogosphere was that Republicans need to act like Republicans, returning to the small-government principles that helped them seize power in 1994. The RNC's first talking point for the day was: "Recommitting to conservative reform." Reps. Mike Pence (R-Ind.) and John Shadegg (R-Ariz.) announced campaigns for minority leader and minority whip by invoking the GOP's "Contract With America" and criticizing Republicans for betraying principles of stronger ethics and tighter budgets.

"The American people did not quit on the contract," Pence said. "We did."

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"Republicans became the party of government," said conservative activist Richard Viguerie. "With earmarks, with spending, with the prescription drug benefit, with the Foley case, it became clear that they would spend anything and do anything to hold on to power."

To Viguerie, the solution is clear: Cut spending, shrink government and lead from the right on abortion, same-sex marriage and other social issues.

But moderates are convinced that's a formula for electoral irrelevance. Moderate Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger (R-Calif.) easily won reelection by finding common ground with Democrats -- and defying Bush -- on such issues as global warming and education spending. Moderate Sen. Olympia J. Snowe (R-Maine) was reelected yesterday with 73 percent of the vote in a blue state.

"We misread the election of 2004 as a conservative mandate when 45 percent of the American people describe themselves as moderates," Snowe said. "If we move even further towards hard-core ideology, we'll be in the minority for a long time."

35Pete
November 9th, 2006, 12:28:58 PM
As party purges begin, top members in the recrimination mode (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15628775/from/RS.3/)

By Michael Grunwald
Updated: 2 hours, 40 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - After minutes upon minutes of soul-searching (lol i love that line), Republicans are now in recrimination mode. And the GOP's various factions all agree: This wouldn't have happened if the party had listened to us.

In the aftermath of the historic GOP losses Tuesday night, moderate Republicans quickly concluded that the party needs to be more moderate. Conservative Republicans declared that it should be more conservative. Main Street is angry at Wall Street, theo-cons are angry at neo-cons, and almost everyone is angry at President Bush and the GOP congressional leadership.

...
"We ought to just mend our wounds, bury our dead, learn from our mistakes and move on," said GOP lobbyist Ed Rogers. "But first we're going to have go through this. Look, bad policy and bad politics makes for bad elections."

Lost its way?

The common theme of the Recriminatathon is that the party lost its way after seizing control of Congress in 1994, focusing on power and perks instead of principles. But behind all the maneuvering, posturing and backstabbing lingered a serious debate over the party's future, and what those principles should be. It's a familiar argument between confrontation and compromise: appealing to base voters on the right or independents in the middle.

The moderate Republican Main Street Partnership fired its first salvo on election night, unleashing a news release titled "Far Right Solely Responsible for Democratic Gains." Sarah Chamberlain Resnick, the partnership's director, complained that GOP leaders had rejected popular causes such as the minimum wage, embryonic stem cell research and lobbying reforms while ignoring health-care issues that did not involve Terri Schiavo. The result, she said, was that moderate suburban voters saw Republicans as extremists.

"This election isn't a repudiation of the GOP," Chamberlain said. "It's a repudiation of a handful of zealots (that were allowed to dominate because they were winning), and a reminder that you can't build a majority party without securing the middle of the American electorate."

That wasn't the conclusion the right drew from Tuesday's losses. The main theme on GOP conference calls and the conservative blogosphere was that Republicans need to act like Republicans, returning to the small-government principles that helped them seize power in 1994. The RNC's first talking point for the day was: "Recommitting to conservative reform." Reps. Mike Pence (R-Ind.) and John Shadegg (R-Ariz.) announced campaigns for minority leader and minority whip by invoking the GOP's "Contract With America" and criticizing Republicans for betraying principles of stronger ethics and tighter budgets.

"The American people did not quit on the contract," Pence said. "We did."

...
"Republicans became the party of government," said conservative activist Richard Viguerie. "With earmarks, with spending, with the prescription drug benefit, with the Foley case, it became clear that they would spend anything and do anything to hold on to power."

To Viguerie, the solution is clear: Cut spending, shrink government and lead from the right on abortion, same-sex marriage and other social issues.

But moderates are convinced that's a formula for electoral irrelevance. Moderate Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger (R-Calif.) easily won reelection by finding common ground with Democrats -- and defying Bush -- on such issues as global warming and education spending. Moderate Sen. Olympia J. Snowe (R-Maine) was reelected yesterday with 73 percent of the vote in a blue state.

"We misread the election of 2004 as a conservative mandate when 45 percent of the American people describe themselves as moderates," Snowe said. "If we move even further towards hard-core ideology, we'll be in the minority for a long time."

Good. Catharsis is the first step towards reform. Might marginalize the power hungry and the extreme.

rob on the job
November 9th, 2006, 2:31:36 PM
If you think the GOP is after each other's throat, wait until you see the Dems in 2007.

It is the year when presidential campaigns get under way, and all of the top Democratic contenders vie for high-profile jobs and measures to sponsor.

the Senate Majority Leader will have to decide if Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton gets the plum committee chairmanship, and whose bill to push, and who gets the spotlight.

The House Speaker will be under similar pressure -- not so much from presidential aspirants, but from special-interest groups like teachers unions and lawyers groups.

In other words, there will be a traffic jam on Democratic Highway.

sukie
November 9th, 2006, 2:42:13 PM
Rob... don't forget the Liberal agenda that will try to creep into these so called moderate democrats offices.

$7.25 minimum wage... Healthcare... Government financed alternative fuels, Kyoto by some new name...

That impending drama will be interesting.

JLB
November 9th, 2006, 2:45:26 PM
We will have a blast lol.

The Dems as leaders that just sounds .................... lol.

When do we cut and run?

Meathead
November 9th, 2006, 2:55:32 PM
im hoping they dont see this as a referendum on wonton liberalism as opposed to a repudiation of the wingnut doctrine and a yearn for moderation

i may be a tad idealistic
there will be a traffic jam on Democratic Highway.
standard american politics
don't forget the Liberal agenda that will try to creep into these so called moderate democrats offices
well elections do have consequences

again, my fingers are crossed they will be judicious in the application of their power. some liberalism would be good but too much and its right back into the fire

they should spend the next two years rehabilitating their image, getting things done, and present a good candidate in 08. the presidency still has power and if they do it right they can play the balanced govt card and since its so fresh in voters minds maybe we will be responsible and keep a new and improved republican in the wh

still too idealistic? im not listening. lalalalalalala

JLB
November 9th, 2006, 2:57:11 PM
Not bad but still shaky the Dems as leaders lololololol.